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Okay...I now have the internet moved to my laptop and it...looks...like...I can post my own stuffs again? (Fingers crossed I won't jinx this by pressing the 'submit' button).Happy Valentine's day! This sketch was supposed to turn into a final, but I did three copies and Lucrecia's expression was just never as nicely captured again. So in anger and two hours later, I decided you guys would have to make-do with my messiness. This will be in scraps later.
Hojo and Lucrecia look sad because I was sad when I drew this. No, not because I had no Valentine (though, for the record, I don't), but because with the new flashy compilations to FFVII, this couple would probably get less and less attention and credit. For, we all know, DoC officially killed off the Lu-Hojo pairing in a very icky and sad way. So white roses, not red, to fair these two off. Wherever they go, I hope they are happy.
So...who wants to be my Valentine?
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Comments: 47
gabrielsangel [2008-10-20 03:10:57 +0000 UTC]
I"LL BE YOUR VALENTINE! But very nice, I must say. Romantic in an FF7 sense!
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CrimsonSun In reply to gabrielsangel [2008-10-20 08:41:16 +0000 UTC]
Aw.
Psst... EK-san, current owner of [link] , did an -awesome- rendition of this picture. I'm told it'll be the next layout for the website, so keep an eye on that site if you wanna see a version of the pic that's ten billion times better than this one! ...yeah, random trivia for you!
(Shameless self-promotion? XD)
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gabrielsangel In reply to CrimsonSun [2008-11-19 02:02:57 +0000 UTC]
YES! Sounds awesome! But I bet it wasn't ten billion times better. When you draw Hojo you draw him...
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Heidedevries [2008-02-13 02:49:56 +0000 UTC]
Wow... I want that Hojo you drew. And maybe I'll be nice to Luca too!
Nice poses and I love her expression.
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Charexl-chan [2007-03-24 04:51:06 +0000 UTC]
DoC did kill off the pairing....
THUS I DENY DOC!!
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killingaurora [2007-02-20 11:52:15 +0000 UTC]
I'd be your Valentine, but I don't think I'm the right gender ^^"
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DeactivatimusPrime [2007-02-18 12:38:34 +0000 UTC]
That upsets me, too. :< Like, a lot. >_> I guess we've got no choice but to deal, though.
This's beautiful, Crim. :>
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NaokoYouko [2007-02-17 01:17:38 +0000 UTC]
This is /very/ nice. =3
I'm afraid I haven't played DoC yet. (after seeing Steven Blum at a con last year, though, I certainly hope to. xP ) But I know enough about FF7 to not be a n00b and know who these two are.
Congrats on the lovely picture. *hands you late Valentine's Day cookie shaped like...you guessed it, Vincent Valentine* x3
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Miss-Picc [2007-02-15 06:46:03 +0000 UTC]
Pretttttyyyyy!
You should ink it.
Happy Valentine's Day!
(Oh good lord, the pun....X_x)
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CrimsonSun In reply to Miss-Picc [2007-02-16 11:15:37 +0000 UTC]
Unfortunately Valentine is never happy. So, emo Valentines Day! *is shot for pun-making* ...but you always knew how 'terrific' I am at making puns, Picc.
PS: you left your shampoo stuffs at my house! I'm starting to think you leave things intentionally so you have a reason to come back! Ahahahaha~
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Miss-Picc In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-17 11:24:12 +0000 UTC]
Gads! The puns! They burn!
Ohnoes! My shampoo!
I like my home shampoo better, actually. It only comes in massive 1.5 litre bottles though, which is kinda waaaay too big to take on a plane. XD
But I shall come back!!!
And it has to be before Maiika goes to Japan.
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Blueflame98 [2007-02-15 04:11:10 +0000 UTC]
Des~ Oh teh priiiiitienessssss! *Gives you a Valentine...for Hojo to do unmentionable yaoi things with* ^_^
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CrimsonSun In reply to Blueflame98 [2007-02-16 11:06:37 +0000 UTC]
*Hojo makes faces in your general direction at the mention of yaoi*
...as long as it's Hojo-Vincent. Hojo goes yaoi with no one else.
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Blueflame98 In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-17 06:21:45 +0000 UTC]
Des~ Of course! Hojo and Vincent belong together!
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Seraphically [2007-02-15 02:21:30 +0000 UTC]
Screw DoC in it's High Def pixilated ass! You know all the flashbacks were from Vincent's point of veiw.. he was probably mixing the present with the past, because damnit there is NO WAY Hojo looked that old and gangly 30 years ago.
Your portayle of him here.. while very pretty.. is still the very sophisticated looking Wutainese man that one would imagine him to be looking from a strict FF7 point of veiw.
DoC is really skewed with it's contradictions to the FF7 storyline. If anything I would take it as AU. If Hojo was truly as cruel and awful as he was described in DoC 30 years ago, I cannot imagine how Lucrecia would have run to him if he treated her badly from the start.
You got the sombre expressions for this down pat, babe. And if anything, I'd gladly be your Miss Crescent for you.
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CrimsonSun In reply to Seraphically [2007-02-16 11:04:55 +0000 UTC]
Awww... Now I feel loved.
N'way, I'm completely taking DoC as AU. Or just a messy fanfiction. Albeit a very beautiful messy fanfiction.
I reckon, if the flashbacks were from Vincent's pov, then Hojo should still be young, not old. After Vince woke up from his thirty year nightmare, he met with the old Hojo for all of, what, half an hour on top of the Sister Ray? If anything, Vince would have trouble adjusting to how old Hojo's gotten. So hm. Square's just setting up their protagonist, in a very un-nice way, no less.
I have to admit, I'm less and less believing of Hojo and Lucrecia's love. ( (Another reason this pic looks sad). But...at least in FFVII it was possible, whereas in DoC...it's...just not.
<3
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Seraphically In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-16 11:16:12 +0000 UTC]
Wah! Don't be discouraged! Their love had to be somewhere. You don't just up and marry someone just because omg we're both scientists!
And really what I meant was, that though the flashbacks were from Vincent POV he may have been skewing the past with the present. Not on purpose mind you. I'm reminded how Cloud screwed up his flashbacks by putting himself in the place of Zack. He didn't WANT to tell it that way, it was the mako/jenova/whatever that screwed him in the head and messed everything up.
So perhaps the shock of seeing Hojo so old was rather burned into his memory and thus that visage covered up the 30-year-young Hojo? As sort of a catalyst to fuel Vincent's hatred for him? Because c'mon, while we love him.. he looked like he got beat with the fugly stick (and yet I still find him attractive. Waaahht.).
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CrimsonSun In reply to Seraphically [2007-02-16 11:24:59 +0000 UTC]
Hey, we're Hojo fans. Even after he got whacked repeadedly with said ugly stick, we'll STILL STICK BY HIM BECAUSE WE SEE PAST THE UGLINESS and we love HIM and not some superficial appearance.
At least, that's what I tell my friends when they bring up the subject...and then watch them back away. Fast.
Well, with the love thing, I'm playing the game again and am thinking about all the things present-Hojo says and the way he acts...and kinda...wondering if he ever was a man who could love? And Lucrecia...well, you don't get much on her AT ALL, but the way she doesn't mention Hojo when you see her...concentrating on Sephiroth...well, it's a mother thing, but still.
I think, Lu is capable of womanly love (excuse the 'womanly' attached there, but you know what I mean, right?), but Hojo...well, people can change, I guess. But his personality is...so...erm, well, jackass-like, that I wonder if I've been deluded by fanon to think he ever loved anyone besides his 'precious specimans' and his precious science?
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Seraphically In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-16 17:41:48 +0000 UTC]
I'm convinced to the ideal that Hojo was human once. No one's born into sadism. Sadism is external and then infects you and festers in you. I believe it might have started with his inferiority complex. Always living in the shadow of another person (Gast!). Jenova later catered to that one desire of his to be the one recognized for his own handiwork.
I think he would have had affection for her (Lucrecia) due to her want for someone to want her. She seemed very needy, very clingy, and would easily get emotionally attached to anyone who gave her the time of day. And here's Hojo:.. A man who's very kept to himself, anti-social workaholic.. who suddenly has this woman willing to do anything for him. I think that would blow his mind. XD Not only a woman who wanted him, but a woman who challenged him in a field where HE knew himself as king.
I think though, once she came to know that Hojo wasn't the type to return her affection in full force.. IE: it wasn’t enough for her what he was offering her.. That was when she turned to eyes to Vincent who WAS uber passionate, wanted to kiss the ground she walked on, etc etc. Yet as DoC gives us, her guilt over Gimoire (however you spell it) repels her away from him and sends her right back to Hojo.
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Blueflame98 In reply to Seraphically [2007-02-17 06:27:21 +0000 UTC]
"Yet as DoC gives us, her guilt over Gimoire (however you spell it) repels her away from him and sends her right back to Hojo."
Which was rather twisted when you think about it.
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Blueflame98 In reply to Seraphically [2007-02-17 19:38:25 +0000 UTC]
Des~ Because she ends up playing both Hojo and Vincent untrue. She should NOT have rebounded between Vincent and Hojo due to her feelings of guilt. It's not fair to either one. She obviously felt much closer to Vincent, and when she couldn't deal with her guilt she went running to her second best option-and being the rebound boyfriend is not a pleasant postion to be put in.
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CrimsonSun In reply to Blueflame98 [2007-02-19 08:40:15 +0000 UTC]
Alas, poor Hojo.
I still have trouble talking about DoC tho. When people say Grimoire I tend to think 'plot device'! X( No, because players couldn't take the fact the beautiful boy didn't get the girl and the twisted nerdy one did! X((
But again, alas, poor Hojo.
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Blueflame98 In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-19 20:36:48 +0000 UTC]
Des~ You're right, Grimoireeus Ex Machina. *cuddles Hojo*
Twisted nerdy guys are hott damnit!
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Vegeta-Holic In reply to Seraphically [2007-02-15 17:44:17 +0000 UTC]
because damnit there is NO WAY Hojo looked that old and gangly 30 years ago.
TRUE.
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Vegeta-Holic In reply to Seraphically [2007-02-15 20:15:13 +0000 UTC]
You can even see his short hair, and...other non-old stuff in the flashbacks/Gast's videos D:
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Seraphically In reply to Vegeta-Holic [2007-02-16 11:17:52 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I know.. It was short and fluffy! And he wore BLUE! A Bluuue suit under his labcoat D: And there was no GIGANTIC FOREHEAD either. XD
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CrimsonSun In reply to Seraphically [2007-02-19 08:36:28 +0000 UTC]
Oh I think the forehead was always gigantic. But I thought I was seriously the ONLY person on earth who noticed the blue shirt underneath the labcoat! XD Exactly! Take THAT, DoComgHojoiswhiteshirtandtiewearing! =O
I want to cosplay LO Hojo with the no-tie and scorn people who don't recognise the costume.
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Seraphically In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-19 15:42:07 +0000 UTC]
Big forehead as in.. big giant forehead with a DENT IN IT! Poor man looks like someone slammed his skull into the corner of a desk. D:
And LO Hojo is hawt
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CrimsonSun In reply to Seraphically [2007-02-20 11:09:24 +0000 UTC]
Knowing Hojo, someone probably DID slam his skull into the corner of a desk...
Vince or Sephiroth or a hundred other possibilities...
And THAT'S why Hojo is CRAZY, not because of Jenova at ALL!
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Seraphically In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-20 17:37:10 +0000 UTC]
Psh! He's not crazy, just.. overly determined to complete his goals by any means nessisary!
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Vegeta-Holic In reply to Seraphically [2007-02-16 17:34:28 +0000 UTC]
His fluffy hair was so cute!! How could they do this to him!? Make him giant-forehead-of-doom...ed D:
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Vegeta-Holic [2007-02-15 02:02:00 +0000 UTC]
SERIOUS WIN.
Aw, they're so pretty :3 But so sad D:
I love the way they're so beautiful, and so young Much love to them~ Happy V-day
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CrimsonSun In reply to Vegeta-Holic [2007-02-15 02:13:02 +0000 UTC]
Yeeeeeeeah...Hojo actually turned out much prettier than I wanted him to. I'm a fan who loves everything about him, even the ugliness.
...but then I thought, screw accuracy...it's Valentine's day!
...so he shall remain unnaturally pretty.
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Vegeta-Holic In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-15 17:46:16 +0000 UTC]
So am I In a wierd way, his forehead is kinda cool ._.'
Yay unnatural pretty-ness :3
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CrimsonSun In reply to Vegeta-Holic [2007-02-16 11:13:23 +0000 UTC]
His forehead, and his slanty Aisan eyes, and the bangs in front of his face, and the wrinkles beside his mouth, and his ponytail and his slouching-ness and his little glasses!
Er...yeeeeeah...I'm gonna go bash my head against the wall now...
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Vegeta-Holic In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-16 17:32:50 +0000 UTC]
He and Walter from Hellsing are the only wrinkley old men I have the hots for XD
Everything about Hojo is pretty. He's just an ooooold wrinkley pretty is all
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RyutheHanyou [2007-02-15 01:41:34 +0000 UTC]
Killed off my chances in successful image hunting thats for sure.
but things like this remain so sweet.
I would be your valentine. (must...resist...bad...pun...)
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RyutheHanyou In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-15 04:22:59 +0000 UTC]
It's worse when you run around in public dressed as Vincent Valentine on Valentine's day
(very very stupid idea. but I looked good)
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CrimsonSun In reply to RyutheHanyou [2007-02-16 11:08:18 +0000 UTC]
OMG! That's fantastic! Hey, where'd you get your blue suit? I'm in search of one (within a reasonable price range, of course, because it's not like I'm gonna be wearing it elsewhere), but I haven't been able to track one down yet...excluding the ugly furry thing I found in a vintage store, that was, like, fifty sizes too big.
Valentine gets a Valentine. ^^
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RyutheHanyou In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-17 02:42:38 +0000 UTC]
For a turk suit, I make 'em by hand. Cost naturally depends on the material.
I did red cloaked Vincent for Valentines cause I refuse to cut my hair.
I'm stuck cosplaying as Tseng until I find/make a Turk Vincent wig
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CrimsonSun In reply to RyutheHanyou [2007-02-17 07:47:40 +0000 UTC]
I wanna cosplay Tseng! I'm Asian so it'd be as easy as cosplaying Hojo. But I still have no suit so hmm...
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RyutheHanyou In reply to CrimsonSun [2007-02-18 03:27:27 +0000 UTC]
I look odd cosplaying as people with skin darker than Vincent.
Damn my vampire skin tone.
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