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Description ummmm...I promised to open commissions this saturday but I have a little problem. so, have a comic instead.

also crackle is the new best princess pony
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Flutterknight In reply to ??? [2012-03-19 00:17:22 +0000 UTC]

Dat punchline! XD

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twily4 [2012-03-19 00:17:20 +0000 UTC]

NAK NAK NAK!

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CSImadmax In reply to twily4 [2012-03-19 00:19:01 +0000 UTC]

NAK NAK!

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twily4 In reply to CSImadmax [2012-03-19 00:20:28 +0000 UTC]

NAK NAK NAK MYGLASSESARETALKINGTOME NAK NAK NAK!

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CSImadmax In reply to twily4 [2012-03-19 00:28:47 +0000 UTC]

:33

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twily4 In reply to CSImadmax [2012-03-19 00:44:02 +0000 UTC]

:33< hehe!

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Alfadorfox In reply to twily4 [2012-03-19 02:37:56 +0000 UTC]

NAK NAK NAKNAK, NAKNAKNAKNAKNAK NAK NAK NAKNAKNAKNAKNAKNAK NAKNAKNAKNAKNAK NAK

::::33

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twily4 In reply to Alfadorfox [2012-03-19 18:16:43 +0000 UTC]

NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK!

Oh gog Vriska eyes... How I hate that spider bitch D:

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Homeward In reply to twily4 [2012-03-20 12:20:53 +0000 UTC]

NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK! *explodes*

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twily4 In reply to Homeward [2012-03-21 21:05:58 +0000 UTC]

D: ... NAK?

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Homeward In reply to twily4 [2012-03-26 15:09:26 +0000 UTC]

NAK NAK NAK

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twily4 In reply to Homeward [2012-03-26 20:22:42 +0000 UTC]

NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK! MY GLASSES ARE TALKING TOY ME, MY GLASSES ARE TALKING TO ME! NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK!

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Homeward In reply to twily4 [2012-04-02 17:32:38 +0000 UTC]

NAK NAK THEY WON'T SHUT UP NAK NAK NA- *explodes*

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twily4 In reply to Homeward [2012-04-02 18:14:04 +0000 UTC]

NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK NAK... And so on and so on.
Me: NO HOMEWARD! D:

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Leafsword In reply to Alfadorfox [2012-03-19 06:31:23 +0000 UTC]

Yes.
Buck Yes.
Hell.
Bucking.
Yes.

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BuraddiTamashi In reply to ??? [2012-03-19 00:17:18 +0000 UTC]

XDD
Celestia: This is the happiest day in my life!
Luna: I think she is killing him...
Celestia: I know!

XDDDD

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WolfRaid In reply to ??? [2012-03-19 00:17:11 +0000 UTC]

oh celestia.

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dragonlega In reply to ??? [2012-03-19 00:17:05 +0000 UTC]

geez, and to think blueblood had standards before

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dawnriku In reply to dragonlega [2012-03-19 04:29:07 +0000 UTC]

wait.. you thought he had standards?

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dragonlega In reply to dawnriku [2012-03-20 00:16:28 +0000 UTC]

well he kinda dissed on ajs apples. that takes some balls or some equivalent right there

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dawnriku In reply to dragonlega [2012-03-20 19:41:49 +0000 UTC]

stupidity. plain and simple.

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Knakaruzu-kun In reply to dawnriku [2012-03-19 08:51:47 +0000 UTC]

I think his standards were "If ya ain't me, not interested"

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dawnriku In reply to Knakaruzu-kun [2012-03-20 19:41:59 +0000 UTC]

agreed~!

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locomastero In reply to Knakaruzu-kun [2012-03-19 16:11:01 +0000 UTC]

LOLZ! talking about narcissism

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Knakaruzu-kun In reply to locomastero [2012-03-19 17:38:14 +0000 UTC]

And now that makes you wonder: Who IS Blueblood's mother? If he is Celestia's nephew and Luna is her only known sister who's been on the moon for a thousand years.....well I guess even royalty has some skeletons in their closet. This skeleton just happens to be a self-absorbed prick XD.

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locomastero In reply to Knakaruzu-kun [2012-03-19 20:51:02 +0000 UTC]

HOLY GUACAMOLE. Beware, there are some things that's better not to know

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i2amroy In reply to Knakaruzu-kun [2012-03-19 20:45:59 +0000 UTC]

If I remember correctly from one of Lauren Faust's posts a while back, Blueblood is a nephew on Celestia and Luna's Mother's side about 52 times removed. As a "nephew on your mother's side" doesn't really make sense (nephews being related by your sister or brother's side, not your mother or father's side). My guess would be that Blueblood is actually a descendant of the nephew of Celestia's mother, or Celestia's cousin. My guess would then be that sometime over the years Celestia stopped calling Blueblood's ancestors "cousin, X times removed", and simply started calling them her nephews. (Or more likely they started calling her their aunt. After all if there is a maternal figure who is not your mother who is it most likely to be? Your mother's sister or your aunt. Sometime in the chain one of them probably picked up the habit of calling Celestia their aunt and it just went down the chain.) This can (non-cannonically) be reinforced by the fact that one of the French magazines has a cousin of Celestia that shares Blueblood's color and cutie mark.

Sorry for the wall of text, but there is my take on the exact nature of their relationship.

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ShiroKusakabe In reply to i2amroy [2012-09-13 21:40:58 +0000 UTC]

yeah... best explanation so far, so im buying it

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cronomatt In reply to ShiroKusakabe [2012-11-05 20:18:15 +0000 UTC]

Simply put, Prince Blueblood and The Royal Two Goddesses are descended from Unicorn Royalty before their birth, i.e. Princess Platinum: Celestia, Luna and guessing a few other mortal princesses and princes as well. All females of those ambigious royals had wings and slightly enhanced powers, but had the same mortality as any other unicorn, like Cadence. Only Celestia and Luna became gods.

That is why Celestia has remained celebate. If by chance her deity-ism was genetic, a child would throw the world off balance, and be born with the Elements of Harmony flowing through her very veins. Of course, if that gene was a avatistic, this potential child could live until her 20s until she became an Alicorn.

Of course, if the world was already thrown off balance by Nightmare Moon and Discord's looming awakening, the child would be born a natural hero and release the elements of Harmony to their respective owners, while keeping the bulk of its power for breaking the laws of physics, making the impossible possible....

...BUT THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN RIGHT?!

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ShiroKusakabe In reply to cronomatt [2012-11-06 23:07:05 +0000 UTC]

for crying out loud... if wanted to read a complex theory with not that much of base, i would have gone to tv tropes page of mlp:fim and gone under wild mass guessing

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cronomatt In reply to ShiroKusakabe [2012-11-07 03:14:43 +0000 UTC]

Which part of it was complex? The first part was essentially the theory you agreed with with i2amroy, but far more clear cut. Prince Blueblood and Cadence are Celestia and Luna's nieces and nephews many times removed. The idea that Luna and Celestia had a mortal brother is pretty clear cut and simple, and his descendants became the mortal royal family. Simple. Mortal Princesses get wings because Equestria is deity-matriarcal, and they carry princess blood. We already saw in the flash back anyway that Cadence is mortal.

As for the reason of Celestia being celebate, I of course admit I was being overly dramatic, so I do apologize for that little bit of dramatism. If you were saying that was too complex to be believed, I agree with you. I wasn't exactly lying, I was just simply being dramatic.

Celestia would avoid having children for many far more basic reasons. Many reasons. 1) Being a goddess means being perfect and to be above things such as falling in love with a mortal (which does not match her personality, but considering she is Equestria's religion, it wouldn't be proper). 2) If she had a child, there is a chance she would be mortal, and that she would outlive her child. Incredible heartbreak insues. 3) Celestia marrying would screw with the matriarcal system of Equestia. As far as we can tell, Prince Blueblood does nothing. Cadence might have a more important role in Equestria.

As for Rainbow Dash, this has been set up thematically from the very beginning. If Rainbow Dash was indeed Celestia's daughter, it honestly should become no surprise to anyone. Although I doubt she'll ever become an Alicorn. That was more dramatization, then what I actually expect.

1) She has the fictional Greek symbol of the gods as her cutie mark.
2) Her Rainbow Energy is identical to the power the Elements of Harmony gives off
3) The shows constant theme is that the Mane 6 are nothing like their on-screen parents
4) We have seen constant signs of abandonment issues from Rainbow Dash in Season 2
5) We have seen constant huge hints of mortal flaws in Celestia in Season 2
6) Fluttershy has no big public events she takes pride on, and is a bit of a hermit. If Rainbow Dash had parents, they would have been at her best young flyer competition, even if she was embarrassed to be associated with them normally (Some people worry that her mother is G3 Rainbow Dash)
7) They made it a significant plotpoint that it was Rainbow Dash that released the Elements of Harmony, and even hinted at that before the backstory episode was even released. Celestia was the last person to use all 6 elements at once, then admitted she 'lost' her connection to them. Hereditary and passing on the torch themes are very simple to understand, even for kids.
8) A sonic rainboom appeared the second time they used the elements. As clear as day.

So what is so complex?

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ShiroKusakabe In reply to cronomatt [2012-11-08 00:21:36 +0000 UTC]

I mean, I completely understand it, but its more wild mass guessing than what I can take at once. Also, at first I was going to say that your RD theory was absurd, but then I thought it better, and saw that you actually did a good job there, its just that is not very likely because the show's plot is (unfortunately) not THAT complex, at least not yet. I mean, is good and all, but the sad truth is that deep inside is still a kids show. So such amazing twists and secrests aren't likely to come out, and if they do, not soon at least. give it a couple of seasons before things. With that said, that doesn't mean that your theories are flawed in any way, so they MAY still be right.

Anyway... lets just wait for season 3 to air. It will be on 3 days, and the very first episode will involve Cadence, so it will probably shed a bit more of light one the whole alicorns and princess thing.

P. D: the idea that the princesses "get" the wings (after born) seemed weird to me, cause i thought that they would just be born with 'em and blueblood's case was just that he wasnt born and alicorn (because the only pureblood alicorns (left) on the royal family are luna and celestia), but then i remembered that cadence didn't seem to be very good at flying, which was something that always bothered me. Was that the reason for the whole getting thing?

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cronomatt In reply to ShiroKusakabe [2012-11-08 03:27:08 +0000 UTC]

Of course its a bit of wild guessing, but since it follows with some stuff Faust said, what you agreed with before, and its the most simple guess out there (at least in my opinion), I don't see anything over the top about it. Afterall, we saw Cadence as a teenager with Twilight, and we know she is weaker then the Twin Goddesses by their lonesome.

Remember back during the time we were all coming up with thoeries on what Cadence was before the episode came out? Was she the Goddess of Love, Another Goddess sister, someone completely unrelated to Equestria...those theories got thrown out the window when we found out that she lived her mortal teenage life in Canterlot. If its believed that her family controls a subsection of Equestria, the Crystal Kingdom, with a history somewhat different then Canterlot's, that's pretty likely.

The thing is, what made it more likely that all princesses are alicorns is because the term Alicorn doesn't exist at all. From Twilight Sparkle's mouth, if your a princess, your an alicorn. From Rarity's mouth, if your royalty, your a niece or nephew to Celestia. Doesn't seem fair to men, but that's another curious theme they have kept constant.

And when did I say they just grew them? I think you misunderstood something I said. No, Cadence was most likely born with them.

But I do agree, she did seem to be bad with her wings. The explanation for that is pretty simple...she was raised in unicorn society of Canterlot, not Cloudsdale. Beyond the royal guard of white pegasi who only fly carriages mostly, the only people in Canterlot who can fly worth a damn seem to be the Wonderbolts, and its implied most of them were born in Cloudsdale. Even Celestia and Luna usually fly around using godly levitation.

Thank you for complimenting my Rainbow Dash theory. I agree, if such a thing came out, it probably wouldn't be this season...or at least until the end. We'll see what explanations they give on Cadence soon, if they give a good one. (shrug)

I wouldn't say that the plot is not yet complex enough or that its bound by the restrictions of a kids show. Season 1 maybe, but not necessarily Season 2 or future seasons. Here are just a few examples...Tartarus being canon, the fact that an entire army of complex insectoid killers came out of nowhere (Did Twilight forget to mention Tartarus Gate was undefended for a day? Maybe that would have helped), comments of exclamation like "Celestia just like us?" done in disbelief...meaning their taking the whole god thing as far as it can go, Mr. Cake being nervous about potential infidelity, hiding Lyra + Bon-Bon and Derpy + Doctor Whooves dating in the Hearts and Whooves background, Rainbow Dash getting a vision of her entire hometown getting destroyed, a deity and a demon queen dueling it out...with the demon queen being the winning underdog (trope-avoiding), hiding fuck phrases like 'nobody gives a flying fuck' within a supposed kids show and other such stuff.

MLP is not your average kids show. It is both a superb kids show, and a satire on kids shows on how far they are willing to go that other kids shows will not, with constant escalation. Hell, Lesson Zero was pretty much a shout out saying "we don't care about restrictions, lets add nuclear explosions and clinically dangerous insanity!!" And in the last episode, an entire invasion, and an entire fight scene with Twilight-powered machine guns.

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ShiroKusakabe In reply to cronomatt [2012-11-08 16:12:17 +0000 UTC]

well, i must admit that season 2 had a huge improvement on history and continuity.
I personally think that some(not all, but some) of the things that happened and came out during season 1 weren't that well thought, and even thought it didn't matter back then, it feels like they get on the way for the things that they did and want to do from season 2 onwards. you know, this kind of thing that happens with a lot of shows, that begin simple, and when the creators want to give it a more complex story it turns that some things that the already made are getting on the way and they have to add handwaves and things like that to get around it.

Changing a bit the subject your theory on that they weren't raised on cloudsdale its actually pretty good, it makes a lot of sense, and has enough proof. So, until something else is specifically stated on the show, im going to tale that theory for why the alicorns aren't that good at flying.

The last thing is about what you saying that mlp is not and average kids show, which kinds of bothers me, cause, even though i love mlp, when it comes to analysing it, i try to get rid of my bias and see it for what it is, and what it is in a basice level is not that outstanding. Maybe i'm wrong, because as someone wich favorite cartoon is Adventure Time, I have high expectations for backstory, continuity and nightmare fuel when it comes to call a cartoon superior to others. You see, for example, im conscious that MLP has some nightmare fuel moments, but when i compare then with the horrors that lie in AT, i feel like "you call that nightmare fuel" and so on. So for the next time if you ask i don't see mlp as such outstanding cartoon (at a basic level again, because if we take in account things like the small details, animation style, fandom and fanservice, it is VERY outstanding) is beacuse AT gave me very high standards for "outstanding".

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cronomatt In reply to ShiroKusakabe [2012-11-09 05:05:55 +0000 UTC]

Actually the biggest sources of miscontinuity in the series of season 1 were essentially the opening 2 episodes. They had plenty of contradiction errors there, but can you blame them, it was their promo. There are far worse retconning malfunctions in other shows when they try to force an emotional response that didn't even exist before. So far My Little Pony has stayed pretty clear of the retcon juice since its promo. And to be fair, I think Season 1 and Season 2 of MLP made a pretty smooth transition when compared to others.

I like thinking out theories to their logical conclusion. Important details in a show that could potentially connect to a theory, I rarely forget for some reason. I don't have perfect memory by any means, its that my mind works like a puzzle box, always adding pieces that can be used to create a picture. Its almost subconscious. (Hope I don't sound like I'm bragging, I'm just explaining how I created that long list of hints so easily)

Adventure Time, eh? Ah....we might be coming to blows to this part I'm afraid, and while I don't think any less of you, I can't help but feel sorry for you. I'm afraid you cannot easily remove your bias when judging which is a better show, as you have just stated you tried and failed. You did admit "Maybe I'm wrong", which means you have a more open mind then most One Piece and Adventure Time fans I've talked to. (I'll tell you why I'm mentioning One Piece later)

For the record, I am not outright saying "My opinion is better", that would be incredibly rude and arrogant. I'm simply saying that you've sort of missed the point of what a WHOLE LOT of good shows should be judged upon to get maximum enjoyment. I could easily say 'to each his own', but on the other hand, not knowing the difference might make you miss out on the extraordinarily experience of some other shows. So, in some arrogance, I'm going to press the issue. Its not nightmare fuel or stretching the limits of what should be shown on a kids show, which shows like Adventure Time, the Simpsons, Family Guy(admittedly not a kids show), Regular Show, Spongebob Squarepants do FAR better then My Little Pony...BUT FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS.

If you like almost all ironic humor, little common sense and some forced grimdark emotional tales in the mix, Adventure Time is your show. And even worse, its really hard to distinguish ironic humor and ironic dialogue that's supposed to be funny with just lazy dialogue. Heck, a whole lot of scenes in episodes seem like special add-libs...bad ones. That is why I like Homestuck so much, possibly a little bit more then MLP....actually I think its about even. It combines far more subtle and less awkward ironic humor, real humor and rich characterizations and emotions that MLP is capable of that can't be just turned off and on like a lightbulb.

I'm not going to compare which fanbase is bigger, cause that would be immature and serve no real purpose.

You have what I have learned to call after lots of conversations and tests...the "One Piece Syndrome". It is not effected by being unintelligent, its simply an effect of being exposed to a certain type of show too early that it effects your standards and bias. Its effects?...the infinite expansion of a person's suspension of disbelief until they see the stupidest of things and never think "What is this shit?" Honestly, I can't honestly judge which is a worse standard...One Piece or Adventure Time. I've explored almost every fan base imaginable, and the only one that has had a more negative effect on standards and bias is the Twilight Saga(obviously)

Before you accuse me of being biased against Adventure Time, let me ask you a few questions.

What do cartoons far superior then all the above, like Batman the Animated Series, Justice League, a number of different anime I can think off the top of my head, have that even, yes, My Little Pony: FiM and Homestuck have that shows like Adventure Time, Captain Flapjack, Regular Show, Ed Edd and Eddy, Spongebob Squarepants....lack almost completely?

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ShiroKusakabe In reply to cronomatt [2012-11-09 17:33:24 +0000 UTC]

mmm... i get your point but maybe you got me wrong (mostly because i didn't explain myeslf good), what i wanted to say, and in a few words with the aventure time example was "I love both shows, but not for the same reasons", i love to overanalyze AT, because is like is intended for that, with its creepy backstory and everything,and all setted in a cutesy, really funny and extremely weird setting. But mlp, i like it because it LACKS all that horror, because i can watch it nd feel all warm and fuzzy inside, looking for derpy on the background instead of remains of the mushrooms war; exploring friendship instead of slaying monsters, etc. I love AT because it makes me think and feel a bit terrified, while laughing from silly jokes. I love mlp:fim, because it makes me feel HAPPY. So the mistake was mine after all, because i shouldn't have compare them on the first place, cause they are just different, intended with diferent purposes. I still think that AT has a deeper plot than MLP:FiM, but, know what? you made me realize that i actually like it like that, cause those what all those other cartoons lack that mlp has is that feeling of comfort; mlp makes me feel truly happy and relaxed, and no, the typical girlish show doesn't have that effect on me, they dont make me feel happy, they make me feel stupid.

Also, thanks, maybe i don't agree with you, but you helped me organize my ideas and remember why i like MLP again, now i can't wait for these godamn 20 hours or so to end, and i think i feel like watching a few episodes

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cronomatt In reply to ShiroKusakabe [2012-11-09 20:06:38 +0000 UTC]

All more power to you then. This reply made me very happy

No, I can honestly say you didn't represent yourself very well at all in the last response. You honestly came across someone who couldn't distinguish the difference between MLP and your average cartoon, and didn't appreciate its achievements, its...pure honesty in story telling....Now I know the real you, and I like you, and your tastes.

I can honestly say I never liked shows like Regular Show, Ed Edd and Eddy, Spongebob Squarepants, Captain Flapjack and Simpsons. These kind of shows...simply aren't of my tastes. Adventure Time suffers from the same negative attributes of these, and some additional ones as well that tie it to One Piece. Yes, Adventure Time was partially inspired by Oda, Jake was even given the main character Luffy's power, with even more flexibiltiy in what it can do. However, Adventure Time has plenty of odd merits. It has an interesting method of double twisting endings, even if it doesn't always make a lot of sense, and even if there seems to be a lack of effort in Adventure Time, it does allow a lot of places where you can overthink a scene and find something honest and even pure in it. Its not constant, but it does have it. If you find entertainment in that, then I am happy for you. I was worried you saw Adventure Time as something...too perfect.

"Dirk Strider: Even the upper echelons of ironic humor must always carry some element of truth in it." Otherwise, its just lazy jibberish. Adventure Time is not all lazy jibberish, so in that way, it does succeed as an excellent show for some. I simply have no taste for it myself.

Yes, the comfort of MLP:FiM is somehow different from any 'girly' or 'kiddy' show ever made. Its incredible what the creative minds behind it created. Ignoring several anime that has many strengths....lets ignore that for a second. A great cartoon, in my opinion, has seriousness and purity in its message, while at the same time succeeding to be entertaining and funny. Justice League had a lion's share of seriousness, Avatar: the Last Airbender merged the two, and My Little Pony had the lion's share in purity. Those are my main three among american cartoons...although Homestuck falls within there as well despite being a very interesting medium.

I'm glad we learned or relearned something from each other. Those are the best conversations in the world.

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ShiroKusakabe In reply to cronomatt [2012-11-10 00:19:45 +0000 UTC]

Wonderful! now i completely agree with you!

As for Adventure Time, i gotta admit that what attracted me to it at first was that it seemed senseless, as its TVtropes page puts it "Their adventures are nonsensical, crazy, and bear more resemblance to a group of kids playing with action figures than a coherent story... which is probably why it's so dang fun", and I totally agree with that quote. Now something interesting that i notice is that you compare AT with shows like flapjack, i personally think that AT belongs in the "really weird cartoon" category, were flapjack, Chowder, regular show and gumball, and to be honest, that's why i started to wtach it, because i happen to like ramdonnes, but the reason why i went from liking it to love it was that as it progressed, what seemed nonsensical started to make sense, in other words, it turned out the world of the show was a defined one, and the writers weren't making it on the fly. Also, it started to add some more serious subplots, which reached their peak with "mortal folly" and "mortal recoil". As i said about mlp, when analysing it, you gotta see the show for what it is. And adventure time isn't always deep, sometimes i gotta admit, its just stupid; that would be because AT episodes are divide on two categories "regular episodes" that usually are just funny and silly and dont add much to the story (they do add some, though, cause they will always be acknowledged later, or might give some foreshadowing for a later episode) and "serious" episodes, which usuall are pretty funny too but are the ones that add more to the story. Season 1 had 0 serious episodes. Season 2 had 3/4, depending on your opinion. Season 3 had 5. Season 4 had 7. You might be seeing a pattern here

If you are judging AT for what its was at first, well, let me say ya, 4 seasons has made it evolve, and, for better or worse , its having some cerebus syndrome [link] .

Now... i think im done with that, so lets just talk about ponies. One of the best things of mlp is that the fun doesn't end after the episode. With one of the biggest and activest fandoms ever, you could spend the whole week playing fangames (Check Rainbow Wake! [link] the gameplay is really well done and the cutscenes are hilarious!), reading fanfics, seeing fanart, etc. And while this implies that it generates a lot of garbage, theres also a lot of worthwile content. And, you gotta admit, in that aspect nothing reachs MLP's ankles.

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cronomatt In reply to ShiroKusakabe [2012-11-19 03:11:51 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for the long delay, been real busy with work.

Yeah, I'm fully aware of Adventure Time's evolution. However, with its too casual writing and lack of history with any sense of seriousness beforehand, a whole lot of the drama can sail way past one's head.

Too many shows have unbelievably predictable dialogue because we're used to bad cartoons. My Little Pony and Homestuck on the other hand takes great care to craft every line of dialogue into something with at least a little bit of meaning. Since all the characters of both series, (one that takes place on Television and spreads to youtube and game creators, and one that takes place on a 2,000,000 visited website and spreads to Bandcamp, tumblr and tindeck, not to mention infinite cosplays conventions).....they all have enough natural charisma to pull that off. And thats impressive enough for MLP, who has at least 9 or 10 constantly meaningful main characters. Homestuck has like 20. Adventure Time however has the characters talk...like stoners to be honest. Its not predictable, but it isn't that meaningful either.

Like I said, there's only so much ironic dialogue I can take before it becomes nonsense, and adventure time is not my cup of tea.

Yes, lets talk about ponies. For one thing...magic isn't so nice anymore is it? That's the theme I'm starting to see from this third season. We started Season 2 with the strength of friendship into magic, and at the end, we got the see the power of love can produce...now lets experiment with all the horrible things it can do. Dark magic, magic that can effect the balance of nature....While Sombra was given no characterization...that kind of helped him hit the message through. He was a non-god unicorn who had fallen as far as one can go, to the point where he was evil and despair incarnate, kind of like Sauron from Lord of the Rings. (Look Twilight, when your Aslan-esque goddess teacher is serious enough to show you Dark Magic, don't copy it!)

I wouldn't say nothing reaches MLP's ankles. Homestuck has already beaten or equaled MLP in many aspects. Music from the creators, music from the fans, cosplays, youtube skits, fanart, ....yeah, even fanart of homestuck is nearly as big as MLP. Heck, Karkat Vantas has just as much fanart as Applejack. The reason there aren't as much games or fanfiction of Homestuck is simply because of the style...there is no status quo in homestuck. There is a little status quo in the hivebent section of Homestuck, but beyond that, its a constantly escalating story....and as for the fans on a united front...well remember when we bronies helped kickstart our own filmed documentary?

$322,022

Well...this is what happened when Hussie asked for a fully-funded game.

$2,485,506

and that's just through kickstart, not including the paypal accounts.

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ShiroKusakabe In reply to cronomatt [2012-11-19 16:03:09 +0000 UTC]

Wow! yeah, homestuck is really something, im reading it as soon as i can. About AT dialogues... well, that's just how it is, changing that would change the show spirit, so if you don't like it, that's okay. About King Sombra, there's this lot of speculation about that we haven't seen the last of him for this season, im sure you have heard of trixie's amulet theory.

And yeah, unicorn magic is not pure niceness anymore, not just because of the spells that could be misused, Celestia has shown us that there is really dark magic in equestria, And twilight that any unicorn with the right knowledge could potencialy use it. I really hope the writers continue this line, because then they would be wasting a perfectly good subplot.

P.D: this has no basis at all, but wouldn't it be awesome if king Sombra returned for the season's finale, and did something beyond our expectations, like freeing discord (his statue is still on canterlot gardens?) so he could take advantage of the ensuing chaos to do his biding? (you know, he keeps a low profile, and while everyone is busy taking care of discord, he puts his plan in motion and by the time discord is inevitably stopped, it's too late to stop him, because if king Sombra demostrated something is that even ih wasn'st as powerful as the other villains, he was smarter.

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cronomatt In reply to ShiroKusakabe [2012-11-20 03:47:35 +0000 UTC]

As cool as that would be, I think its pretty obvious if something like happened, which is possible, it would go the other way around.

To make Sombra that smart would be a complete heel-kick-turn. It would make more sense for Discord to free himself, or freed by some other villain, and resurrect Sombra, and use Sombra and Chrsalis to wreak havoc while concocting his own plans.

Can you imagine the hilarity of Discord whimsically trying to get Crysalis and Sombra to play nice while working together to mess up Equestria?

I simply can't see Discord getting used. He is WAY more powerful then Sombra or Chrysalis or even Celestia. Thing is, he WAY underestimated the power of the Elements of Harmony. Beyond deity power, it is essentially the force of creation of good itself....Now would Discord ever beat the crap out of Mane 6 using his powers. No way, he is way too classy a villain, and would he never take the direct approach...would he be angry enough to get two other villains to do the work for him?...Yes. I can imagine that our Discord is PISSED at being turned to stone again. If fact, he implied that pertification is the one thing Discord finds absolutely revolting on a moral level....making me wonder how many other userpers were turned into stone. "Always so grim Celestia."

I'm glad they added that exchange of dialogue between him and Celestia. It established some sort of interesting identity about him that wasn't just....being Q from Star Trek.

Now....There is one plot line I can imagine Sombra taking center stage in that would be more epic then all of that combined...Sombra possessing Princess Celestia.

Think about it. Sombra became like Sauron, the ultimate corruptor. We've seen Princess Luna's dark side and what it can unleash, and now we've seen that Celestia is at least capable of using the dark arts. Its possible, and scary as all hell.

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ShiroKusakabe In reply to cronomatt [2012-11-20 14:16:23 +0000 UTC]

well, i was more thinking on the fact that maybe sombra wouldn't even reveal himself to discord, and i was just saying that that would be Sombra's plan; i forgot to tell you that there was also a high chance of backfiring if he went with such kind of plan. I mean, i imagine Sombra trying to do so, but if he revealed to dicord all like "I freed you so now you have to help me", Discord woulnd't think kindly of that as he hates to be treated as lesser than anything, so he would probably backstab Sombra to follow his own agenda, agenda that only has written "CHAOS" in every single page. Now, for the other way around, althought i don't see it as totally unlikely, i personally don't see discord making the other villains work for him. Althought he's not uncapable, I think he would definetely prefer to take the matter in his own hands, because, what fun is there on delegating work?

But in any case, what i definitely agree with you is that a corrupted Celestia would be an awesome villain, maybe even more than discord

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wedge132 In reply to i2amroy [2012-04-15 23:16:00 +0000 UTC]

My theory is he's adopted. Explains everything.

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cronomatt In reply to wedge132 [2012-11-05 20:21:32 +0000 UTC]

Simply put, Prince Blueblood, Cadence and The Royal Two Goddesses are descended from Unicorn Royalty before their birth, i.e. Princess Platinum: Celestia, Luna and guessing a few other mortal princesses and princes as well. All females of those ambigious royals had wings and slightly enhanced powers, but had the same mortality as any other unicorn, like Cadence. Only Celestia and Luna became gods.

That is why Celestia has remained celibate. If by chance her deity-ism was genetic, a child would throw the world off balance, and be born with the Elements of Harmony flowing through her very veins. Of course, if her deity gene was a avatistic, this potential child could live until her 20s until she became an Alicorn.

Of course, if the world was already thrown off balance by Nightmare Moon and Discord's looming awakening, the child would be born a natural hero and release the elements of Harmony to their respective owners, while keeping the bulk of its power for breaking the laws of physics, making the impossible possible....

...BUT THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN RIGHT?!

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wedge132 In reply to cronomatt [2012-12-30 23:07:10 +0000 UTC]

Still going with my adopted theory, which is so simple its foalproof.

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cronomatt In reply to wedge132 [2012-12-31 07:15:01 +0000 UTC]

Even though it was stated by both the creation team AND faust that he's Celestia's nephew 50 times removed? Even though Cadence is so obviously mortal since we saw her as a teenager? Even though the term Alicorn is synonymous to the term princess and only used separately once? Lets face it...if your a male royal, your going to get shafted by genetics in Equestria. You'll essentially be as significant as Diamond Tiara. Heck you have a low chance of being born male in Equestria anyway, considering the filly to colt ratio.

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wedge132 In reply to cronomatt [2013-01-14 03:06:34 +0000 UTC]

Foalproof, I say! Foalproof!

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Knakaruzu-kun In reply to i2amroy [2012-03-20 04:15:02 +0000 UTC]

That sound of a balloon popping? Yeah, that was my mind XD

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i2amroy In reply to Knakaruzu-kun [2012-03-20 09:07:21 +0000 UTC]

Being a fervent brony+tons of free time+interest in genealogy=crazy analysis. Combine that with having just read a book where something similar happened, and... you get the point. XD

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Knakaruzu-kun In reply to i2amroy [2012-03-20 16:21:02 +0000 UTC]

I probably would get the point if my mind didn't go kablooey XD

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