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ok, this was actually something I did for my tumblr but I just wanted to post it here too.someone asked:
"what do you think of lyra's new name?"
...she knows how she looks and her full name, is just a matter of time...
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BlackWidower In reply to ??? [2011-11-06 23:19:01 +0000 UTC]
Explain to me, the odds of somepony named Lyra getting a cutie mark of a Lyre!
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necrodios In reply to BlackWidower [2011-11-09 00:43:06 +0000 UTC]
Let's ignore the Apple family for a moment, since name and occupation seems to run in the family. The same goes for their relatives, the Oranges. And let's also ignore Celestia and Luna, since controlling the sun and moon could very well be a thing that the royal family is expected to do.
The odds of a pony named Lyra getting a cutie mark of a lyre are just as likely as:
A pony named Rainbow Dash having a special talent of flying fast.
A pony named Fluttershy having a cutie mark of butterflies, and just happening to be shy.
A pony named Photo Finish becoming a photographer.
A pony named Trixie whose special talent is performing magic tricks.
A pony named Heartstrings getting a cutie mark of a stringed instrument.
Ponies named Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon getting cutie marks that are a diamond tiara and a silver spoon.
Ponies named Snips and Snails having scissors and a snail as their respective cutie marks.
A pony named Golden Harvest having a cutie mark related to gardening.
A pony named Mr. Breezy having a fan for a cutie mark.
A pony named Daisy/Flower Wishes having a cutie mark that's daisies.
A pony named Rose whose cutie mark is a rose.
A pony named Sheriff Silverstar, who may have only been Silverstar before he became a sheriff, having a silver star as a cutie mark.
A pony named Peachy Pie having peaches for a cutie mark.
A pony named Sunny Daze getting a cutie mark that's a sun.
A pony named Berryshine getting a cutie mark that's berries.
A pony named Noteworthy having musical notes for a cutie mark.
These are all officially named ponies.
Hasbro doesn't care how logical it would be to have a name based on a cutie mark they shouldn't know about yet. The only thing Hasbro cares about is whether or not the name can be trademarked, and how easy it is to defend that trademark.
The Transformers wiki even has an entire article dedicated to Hasbro's affinity for making names ridiculous enough to be trademarked, including characters who have had their official names changed because Hasbro decided the original name wasn't as easy to defend as a trademark.
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BlackWidower In reply to necrodios [2011-11-09 05:35:43 +0000 UTC]
Well, half of those could be nicknames, but I guess you have a point.
However only a few of them have names that are identical to their cutie mark. Besides, I'm saying it's unlikely, not impossible. With the rate the fans name characters directly after their cutie marks...well...that's my point.
Though I hope whatever names they do use are better than whatever the fans came up with, because let's face it, there's a reason the phrase, "design by committee" is considered an insult.
...I thought Rose was called Roseluck!
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necrodios In reply to BlackWidower [2011-11-09 16:27:09 +0000 UTC]
Well, she's called Rose in-show and her toy was named Roseluck. The real reason, once again, is trademark issues. But it makes perfect sense to assume that her name is Roseluck and that she's just called Rose for short, just like how many of the main characters don't call each other by their full name all of the time.
As for the fans' naming trends, MLP characters have been named that way even in the older generations, especially in the toy line, so the fans are just following the apparent naming trends that ponies have had for years. In fact, many of the fan-named ponies, such as Bon Bon, were simply named after similar older generation ponies.
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BlackWidower In reply to necrodios [2011-11-09 23:43:05 +0000 UTC]
Hold on, when was she called Rose?
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necrodios In reply to BlackWidower [2011-11-10 03:16:07 +0000 UTC]
Near the end of Bridle Gossip. The same place Daisy's name was mentioned.
Daisy: Look Rose! How awful!
Rose: The wicked enchantress has cursed them all.
Lily: The horror, the horror!
[ponies screaming]
Twilight Sparkle: Daisy, we need to talk.
The transcript for the episode is on the wiki.
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BlackWidower In reply to necrodios [2011-11-11 23:05:45 +0000 UTC]
Ah! I see! Alright. Forgot about that!
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CSImadmax In reply to BlackWidower [2011-11-07 03:30:50 +0000 UTC]
a pony named applejack get apples cutiemark...
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BlackWidower In reply to CSImadmax [2011-11-07 06:14:36 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I thought of that, but she is also a member of the Apple family, a long line of Apple farmers. Her cutie mark was ordained from birth.
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BoneSatellite [2011-11-06 22:49:16 +0000 UTC]
Now, were we the first ones to call this character Lyra? Because if so, that's the third pony (Derpy Hooves, DJ PON-3) that the fanbase has given a name to. How exciting.
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BlackWidower In reply to BoneSatellite [2011-11-06 23:37:01 +0000 UTC]
The official name is Heartstrings. But some members of the fan community have refused to acknowledge this and thought placing Heartstrings as her surname was "middle ground." Even though it doesn't resolve the name/cutiemark problem.
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BoneSatellite In reply to BlackWidower [2011-11-06 23:44:36 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for taking the time to explain that. As accustomed as I am to calling her Lyra, I like Heartstrings better. Way better. Sure hope we hear a canon name for Bon Bon soon.
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BlackWidower In reply to BoneSatellite [2011-11-07 06:24:10 +0000 UTC]
If we do hear a canon name for "Bon Bon" it had better have nothing to do with candy.
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BoneSatellite In reply to BlackWidower [2011-11-07 07:24:32 +0000 UTC]
Why not? She has a candy-themed cutie mark; if you ask me, a sweets-inspired name would be in the context of the show ... I mean toy line.
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BlackWidower In reply to BoneSatellite [2011-11-07 18:14:41 +0000 UTC]
...well no. That's my point. The reason she shouldn't have a candy-themed named is precisely because she has a candy-themed cutie mark. I'm not rewriting this so this is a reference to Lyra Heartstrings.
- For starters, letβs talk about the name βLyra.β Given said character has a cutie mark of a lyre, and Lyra is a constellation of a lyre, thatβs one hell of a coincidence. A pony get their cutie mark once theyβve learned what their unique talent is, which doesnβt happen very early in life. So, that means her parents would have named her Lyra, and one of either two things happened: a massive coincidence meant she loved playing the lyre, and got a cutie mark of it. Or, her parents forced her to play the lyre because they wanted her name to match her cutie mark. Like one of those parents who force their kid to play the violin. βYouβre gonna play it and youβre going to like it!!!β
So that would be odd, itβs like if Pinkie Pie was actually named Balloons. So giving her a name that has little to do with her cutie mark makes a lot of sense. Besides, everyone knew βLyra,β like all fan-made names, was merely a placeholder. A name we could use to quickly and easily refer to a particular pony that otherwise didnβt have a name. But now she has a proper name, granted by the copyright holders. We no longer need to use the placeholder name, we can use the name dictated by an official source: Hasbro!
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BoneSatellite In reply to BlackWidower [2011-11-08 06:17:18 +0000 UTC]
That's a very well-argued point. Now that I think about it, perhaps some cutie mark/name correlations (Twilight Sparkle, Applejack, Rainbow Dash) aren't such big coincidences after all. I was just going to chalk it up to a flawed gimmick in the show
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BlackWidower In reply to BoneSatellite [2011-11-09 05:39:48 +0000 UTC]
That's sarcasm, isn't it?
Well, Applejack's an exception. Her family's called "Apple" and they run an apple farm. As for everyone else, very few have cutie marks that are identical to their names. I'm saying it's unlikely, not impossible.
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naruhinalovr In reply to BlackWidower [2011-11-27 05:01:48 +0000 UTC]
yeah, the thing with Rainbow Dash would have been because her mane was rainbow, and both her and Twilight's names are probably Twilight/rainbow as their first names, and Sparkle/dash as their surnames.
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BlackWidower In reply to naruhinalovr [2011-11-27 20:19:28 +0000 UTC]
I'm pretty sure ponies don't have surnames. Case in point: Rarity and Sweetie Belle. Her name isn't Rarity Belle.
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naruhinalovr In reply to BlackWidower [2011-12-03 00:57:42 +0000 UTC]
humans didn't have surnames for a long time. you were just thor son of odin until someone shortened it. that or it was your nickname. perhaps her family is like the Apple family considering her comment about being "Rainbow "Danger" Dash" in the last episode. also, pinkie's family has Pie as their surname. my point is that, while surnames are not intrinsically entwined with their culture, they DO exist.
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BlackWidower In reply to naruhinalovr [2011-12-03 01:48:32 +0000 UTC]
In the show, Pinkie's family is never named.
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naruhinalovr In reply to BlackWidower [2011-12-03 07:16:59 +0000 UTC]
true, but she does call her grandmother Granny Pie.
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BlackWidower In reply to naruhinalovr [2011-12-04 02:53:31 +0000 UTC]
Could be a nickname. But you're probably right.
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alek4ever [2011-11-06 22:06:48 +0000 UTC]
Lyra Heartstrings? HOLY COW! It actually makes sense!
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Wabefuhon In reply to ??? [2011-11-06 21:52:18 +0000 UTC]
Celestia isn't the only one who has the power of the Death Note.
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drax99 [2011-11-06 20:54:41 +0000 UTC]
Heartstrings as a Surname.. i like that take on the whole mess they new blindbags unleashed.
Personally, I was just ignoring them, just like every other repainted toy that kinda-sorta-mebbe looked like an in-show pony. If you were desperate enough.
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drax99 [2011-11-06 20:53:54 +0000 UTC]
Heartstrings as a Surname.. i like that take on the whole mess they new blindbags unleashed.
Personally, I was just ignoring them, just like every other repainted toy that kinda-sorta-mebbe looked like an in-show pony. If you were desperate enough.
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tamanou [2011-11-06 20:53:21 +0000 UTC]
That's why ponies have those names; they know Celestia has a Death Note!
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Fadflamer [2011-11-06 20:31:59 +0000 UTC]
Now we wait until she takes a potato chip, and EATS IT.
Or the inevitable Swimming Lessons with Kira.
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CSImadmax In reply to Fadflamer [2011-11-06 21:00:45 +0000 UTC]
dramatic potato chip eating mode on!
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Fadflamer In reply to CSImadmax [2011-11-06 21:23:16 +0000 UTC]
Gonna set the swimming lessons to 'Blue Danube'.
(Can't believe I remember that from Merry Melodies)
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dwreanpony [2011-11-06 20:12:11 +0000 UTC]
a pidgeon crashes into kira's window and it would be just as planned
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CSImadmax In reply to dwreanpony [2011-11-06 20:17:06 +0000 UTC]
and now he has some pidgeon meat.
everything went better than expected!
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fercho182 In reply to ??? [2011-11-06 20:06:58 +0000 UTC]
Lol Trollestia mandΓ³ a Hasbro a ponerle nombre completo a Lyra
Y con ello Lyra, muriΓ³ de un paro cardiaco
Ahora sabemos el por que, demonios Berry punch esta perdida tambiΓ©n D:! (?)
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CSImadmax In reply to fercho182 [2011-11-06 20:16:00 +0000 UTC]
yo tengo mi propia teoria sobre berry,
comic soon...
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RedRenji-28 In reply to ??? [2011-11-06 20:04:40 +0000 UTC]
Celestia has a Death note!?
its official, we're all screwed!
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fgqsuochosdiu In reply to pbdq [2011-11-07 00:38:31 +0000 UTC]
I really hope they don't name any more background ponies.
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fgqsuochosdiu In reply to pbdq [2011-11-07 03:48:07 +0000 UTC]
Oh no. Do I want to see these?
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pbdq In reply to fgqsuochosdiu [2011-11-07 04:08:47 +0000 UTC]
Depends. How attached are you to the names Berry Punch, Blues and Carrot Top?
We also have a Roseluck toy, but we do not know her name yet.
Personally, I will disregard these new names and enjoy my new toys. If I can ever get my hands on them.
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aiunit92 [2011-11-06 20:02:53 +0000 UTC]
Two great shows, if only it didn't involve Lyra getting killed.
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