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Almost not a part of 'Romancing...' mini-series. Since Samara's almost not a romance optionAnyway, if there's any thing you can look at forever without getting bored, the justicar tits are on top of the list.
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djgaijin [2013-10-07 05:44:53 +0000 UTC]
And the joke is: that Shepard doesn't know what "kama sutra" means, other than that it has something to do with sex.
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Femtoservants [2013-04-12 03:21:12 +0000 UTC]
During ME 2, when i speak to her I was not able to look something else than her breast, it's hypnotizing. She has a damn sexy body and she's teasing us every second with her suit, and yet we cannot romance her, I hate you Bioware.
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CyberII In reply to Femtoservants [2013-04-12 11:57:16 +0000 UTC]
I've seen on youtube, in the Citadel DLC it was made a bit better.
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Femtoservants In reply to CyberII [2013-04-13 06:37:43 +0000 UTC]
I love samara, but am I ready to make a fresh new game of like 15 hours of playing just to see a kissing scene during the citadel dlc? (since we can only do it after the cerberus attack), no. Bioware put a lot of sex appeal in her hoping that she will bring male player, but she end up as an unavailable romance. It was mistake from the beginning to not make her a true romance.
And it is the same for making Cortez gay and not bissexual (femshep as only two straight romance, and too bad for the ones that dislike non human looking alien (garrus), because then there is only one left (kaidan)), the same goes for Samantha (even if I admit that it is not like maleshep lack of sexy girls to seduce, but there is no point in making her only for girls if both maleshep and femshep can seduce her). What is the point of making only homosexual fans happy when Bioware can make both heterosexual and homosexual fans happy, they make the same mistake by making the true romance only heterosexual in ME 2. They just miss the point many time and it sadden me, it could have been so much better.
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CyberII In reply to Femtoservants [2013-04-13 09:39:40 +0000 UTC]
Well, I find it believable, from the point of character's personality. Not everyone's dying to get into Shepard's pants - that adds a bit of realism to our protagonist's Mary-sue-ness.
Maybe they were not just thinking about making fans happy, but also about the characters? Like, not everyone is willing to go for opposite sex if decided to stick with their own, and vice versa. I must agree, I'm not happy with ME3 in most aspects *honestly - couldn't care less about both Cortez and Traynor. And other mediocre characters thrown in, like Allers, Vega, etc.* because they managed to ruin even the best characters they created in this saga, like Ashley or Garrus. Maybe Javik is the only thing I adore about ME3.
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Femtoservants In reply to CyberII [2013-04-13 21:44:19 +0000 UTC]
The problem is Bioware doesn’t make a tv series or a movie, here they are making a video game. Because in that kind of fiction, the story is written and there is no separate way or alternate ending. They are making a game about someone who writes his own story, why make limits to the story he can write, it limits the pleasure he can have.
And if you look at the third game, you can clearly see that they have play much more fanservice in ME 3 than in ME 2 : the cameos of character from ME 2 are damn good, it was not the case with the cameos during ME 2 (remember the horizon treatment), many girls got a breast enlargment (especially ashley) and even a complete redesign to appear sexier etc. All of this was probably because they want to please the fans more.
But if their intention was to please fans, then why the hell did they do that, didn’t they could predict that some girls would like to seduce Cortez and guys to do the same with Traynor. Their characters are believalbe and not bad written, but it was just pointless.
If you look on a purely and only artistic way, yeah it is not bad writing to make Cortez Gay and Traynor Lesbian. But if they wanted to have more fans, they have miss the point.
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CyberII In reply to Femtoservants [2013-04-14 11:55:06 +0000 UTC]
>>why make limits to the story
two letters - EA the deadlines limit the creativity in a pretty bad way.
I know, but I must admit it's not something I'd like in my games. ME2 had Miranda's ass taking half of the screen time total, but it still was a great game, and didn't make Miranda any less interesting character. If there's too much fanservice - we get a Citadel DLC, the new level of cheesiness. The fans are happy, but it's not something I'd like to be a part of the canon. Like, when I want cheese overdose I'd go to ff.net and start reading without being picky.
I'd say, it's hard not to try to please the fans at all, but within the reasonable limits.
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Femtoservants In reply to CyberII [2013-04-18 05:40:59 +0000 UTC]
Yeah but some time, you cannot make a video game without any fanservice, it is almost impossible (how many fans lara croft would have gotten if not for her perfect body, same thing for the super heroin of both DC comics and Marvel). In my opinion, I just say that if they want to play fanservice they should do it fully or not.
The citadel DLC might be totally fanservice, but I would lie if I told you I hated it (I would pay for any additional scene where I can get to see Liara with my maleshep)
But I admit it scared me when EA boght Bioware (the only thing good about this is that it was now available on ps3) because I fear they will ruin the company (as they already did the same thing in the past).
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CyberII In reply to Femtoservants [2013-04-18 08:38:09 +0000 UTC]
I'm not talking about 'without any', I'm talking about balance (seriously, ME trilogy is WAY FAR from 'without any fanservice' even without the nuances we initially talked about). Unbalanced setting generates Mary-Sues, and this is a bad way of creating a character, equally to fan authors or canon. Needless to say, I quit playing Tomb Raider after two first games, when that Lara madness started; and I've never been into boring superhero comics with their one set of cliches for all series. By the way, what level of fanservice the ultimate game of the past, DooM (let's say, 1&2, since they were pretty similar) had to gain its popularity? Or Quake maybe? Starcraft? Might & Magic series? I can expand that list for long, and the examples will be of much better quality and value for the genre than any fanservice game. I can name a few comics as well. Commercially successful - yeah, fanservice sells, but it doesn't mean it's good. Especially when you're on the side of giving the money for it, not getting
I didn't tell I hate it either - just the way it's stupid to hate fanfiction. I'm just not going to add the most part of it to the canon. Anderson's notes around the apartment were a nice touch though, I'd love to get more info on characters' background like this.
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Femtoservants In reply to CyberII [2013-05-09 04:03:06 +0000 UTC]
Most of the game you have used as example are strategy game or old games that use gameplay for selling rather than fanservice that hey couldn't have used as marketing. Even if Sarah Kerrigan was overly sexualized, in starcraft it wouldn't had worked because we only see her in 2d most of the times. Doom was a fps survival horror (a sexy heroin would be useless then), and the technology didn't allow them to make sex appealing girls at this time.
But now most games makes Fan servie (even Starcraft 2, have you seen the new kerrigan suit), some do it more than others and if they don't, it is because it would be useless for them. IF sexualizing one of hteir female could get them more money, they will do it.
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CyberII In reply to Femtoservants [2013-05-09 08:09:43 +0000 UTC]
But each of this games made an impact on gaming industry, and it's not only 2d, technologies, etc. that saved these games from an oversexualized marine chick in a bikini. Now the developers aren't even trying to impress, thinking they can stick a dozen of T&A in their plot holes, and it'll be fine. Think ME3.
The best example how the excessive fanservice doesn't save a lousy game - Duke Nukem Forever, will all respect to the previous games of the series, this one lost the 'game' part somewhere. Because Duke Nukem 3d wasn't about stripper babes - it was about a strong developers team.
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ReVercetti In reply to CyberII [2013-01-27 22:05:33 +0000 UTC]
ага .__. я тоже тогда подумала о камасутре, черт x-x
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CyberII In reply to ReVercetti [2013-01-27 22:28:07 +0000 UTC]
Бедная Самара, никто ее не воспринимает всерьез с таким декольте
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ReVercetti In reply to CyberII [2013-01-28 08:20:41 +0000 UTC]
Это она только вид делает, что она такая серьезная))) иначе бы к ее декольте давно бы кто нибудь присосался XD
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CyberII In reply to ReVercetti [2013-01-28 11:41:45 +0000 UTC]
тоже факт. какой баттхерт у фанов вызывает то, что она им не дала.
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TW6464 [2013-01-14 18:12:36 +0000 UTC]
Was I the only person that didnt find Samara (and Liara/all Asari, for that matter...) attractive?
Also why have you not done a "Romancing Tali..."?
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CyberII In reply to TW6464 [2013-01-14 18:43:31 +0000 UTC]
IDK, I felt the same before Samara. Liara annoys the hell out of me, and her being the writers favorite makes it worse; I couldn't care less for the rest bunch of blue fanservice hookers, it was a real surprise for me when I started to like Samara.
hadn't a worthy idea to mock it yet.
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TW6464 In reply to CyberII [2013-01-14 19:00:10 +0000 UTC]
Personally... Samara is the only Asari I like, because she doesn't try to immediately find a way to get into your pants...
Oh... That's what your funny pictures about the romances are about? Well then Nevermind, Tali's romance doesn't need to be mocked
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CyberII In reply to TW6464 [2013-01-14 19:16:15 +0000 UTC]
and that too.
I personally am not very fond of Tali, not hating, just - meh, another character. Even 'my inner male' doesn't get why that talimancer hysteria around her.
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TW6464 In reply to CyberII [2013-01-14 19:22:28 +0000 UTC]
She's so FRICKIN CUTE...... that's just me though....
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CyberII In reply to TW6464 [2013-01-14 19:28:29 +0000 UTC]
hmm, probably... the dramatic events of ME trilogy don't quite go along with cuteness in my head
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TW6464 In reply to CyberII [2013-01-14 19:51:39 +0000 UTC]
Like I said, it's a matter of opinion
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TW6464 In reply to CyberII [2013-01-14 20:21:17 +0000 UTC]
... It's just that mine is the best...
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Hercules3000 [2012-12-04 06:08:45 +0000 UTC]
I wonder if you could make her say, "Eyes up here."
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CyberII In reply to Hercules3000 [2012-12-04 08:47:47 +0000 UTC]
she pretends too much not giving a damn. probably comes with millennium lifespan
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Hercules3000 In reply to CyberII [2012-12-04 16:00:54 +0000 UTC]
Oh. That would've been great in the game.
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CyberII In reply to Hercules3000 [2012-12-04 16:05:10 +0000 UTC]
yeah, and Miranda going 'Eyes are in front" all the time
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Haupmann [2012-10-21 06:06:36 +0000 UTC]
Well she was an almost romance option in ME2.
I mean i did it every damn game because i thought it was a really good sequence.
But yes, everyone looked. Standard justicar attire is enthralling.
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CyberII In reply to Haupmann [2012-10-21 10:39:55 +0000 UTC]
well, my asshole-Sheploo traded her for Morinth once, but he's an asshole he didn't deserve her anyway
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Haupmann In reply to CyberII [2012-10-21 12:03:54 +0000 UTC]
Everyone had one renegade playthrough.
I reloaded and changed my choice though, I mean Morinth does want to suck out your soul.
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CyberII In reply to Haupmann [2012-10-21 13:47:22 +0000 UTC]
it wasn't a renegade playthrough - some renegade choices make more sense than paragon, that's why my Sheps are never 100% anything
but that Sheploo was particularly asshole
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Haupmann In reply to CyberII [2012-10-22 15:49:02 +0000 UTC]
Well i tried to be 100% everything, it didn't work out too well in ME1, but was easy in ME2, i loved having maxed out bars and able to pick any option i wanted .
I couldn't let samara die if i wanted to, makes me feel too assholeish.
Like in ME3, she has a gun to her head i started mashing the paragon interrupt trigger way before it appeared.
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CyberII In reply to Haupmann [2012-10-22 16:01:08 +0000 UTC]
yeah, who'd have the heart to let her shoot herself in ME3...
besides Morinth has some interesting dialogues concerning her mother, interesting as a characterization for them both.
for me there were three choices even asshole Sheploo couldn't force himself to make - sell Legion to Cerberus, spare Sidonis and break up with Miranda. I doubt any of my Sheps could ever try any of them, even for science.
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Haupmann In reply to CyberII [2012-10-22 16:38:52 +0000 UTC]
I really don't know, whats even more surprising is you can kill her daughter after that, which i saw on youtube...soooo evil.
Some, but i just couldn't really forget the fact shes an utter liar and basically eats people to get stronger.
Well theres no real reason to do that to Legion, you just cut yourself out of a mission for no reason. Well i spared sidonis a lot. I mean he was like dying of guilt and turns himself in immediately, so he can't be that bad.
Break up with Miranda?...Why would anyone do that? Finally see the person underneath and then break her heart? Yeah, thats seriously renegade.
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