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Published: 2011-05-06 08:24:18 +0000 UTC; Views: 1841; Favourites: 48; Downloads: 25
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A beautiful 3 and a half year old male Czechoslovakian Wolfdog at Roudnice nad Labem. His pedigree name is White Snow King z Molu Es.Related content
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beautiful! He has the colors of the Carpathian Wolf!
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Jej... koukám že je to můj chlupáč
Niky a Tim
(amirtimur.wbs.cz)
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To se mi u čévéčkovejch lidí stává vždycky, až zpětně zjišťuju, co jsem to vyfotila za psy, takže ani podle psů nevím, že jsem si s někým na netu psala, o tváři ani nemluvím
Tim je fakt krásnej a pózoval neustále, zblízka i zdáli i ve vzduchu při povaze, mám ho ještě víckrát...
Jak má tady tak pěkně ležérně vodítko přes rameno - očividně to není žádnej divočák.
Společnou procházku uvítáme. Teď budu měsíc pryč, ale v srpnu kdykoliv
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Beautiful dog, looks very much like my Ulric who is Tamaskan
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If you have a Tamaskan, do you mind if I ask you a few questions?
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I don't mind at all, ask away
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Well, first something general, do you know why the standard insists on such a narrow range of colors? Wolves look much more variable then Tamaskans do.
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I'm not a breeder so I can only give you my guess based on my knowledge, that being because they have such a limited gene pool with few dogs. The breed is still very new and in progress which is why it will be a while before they seek recognition from anything like AKC and they only have few colors set in the standard. I do see lots of varying colors from dog to dog though, some have a more silver color, light browns, dark browns, some reddish (there is one really red one, half brother to mine), also last year there was one born as a black phase. I hope this helps answer your question a bit.
You should also visit the International Tamaskan forum [link] everyone there is friendly and you can find loads of information there
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I don't think that it's the limited gene pool, when you look at this [link] you see how different pups from the same litter can look.
However this limited gene pool is the reason why I don't get, that they already do purebreeding, I mean they practically promote inbreeding with that.
And considered that its basically about looks they could cross over dog-lines in as well:
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From what sort of breeding line was yours?
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Most litters they have look alike, there is just the occasional that looks different from each other (from what I have seen). They do still have breeding foundation dogs, which were once not called Tamaskans, and they do not promote inbreeding. They have been looking for new dogs to add to the gene pool, they are just trying to find one that has not only the looks, but temperament, and also proper health testing along with being able to look at their pedigree and see the same results. Again, I'm not a breeder so my knowledge is limited in this subject. This is all based on from what I have been reading in the forums.
My boy was from Alba in Scotland, who is no longer a breeder with the Tamaskan Dog Registry or with the split off group, the Aatus.
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That the litters look alike is suspicious. Normally that is done via inbreeding (or linebreeding as many call it), unless there is a strong selection by the environment over a long period of time (and I am talking about centuries not a few decades).
The pedigree stuff might bite them in the ass if that means that they won't take good dogs. After all, the dogs I showed were street and sled dogs so they need to be healthy, when considered there genes, to survive, neither sled-racing nor the street tolerates "week" dogs. In addition when they come from long lines of those they usually have good social skills because they are also needed to survive.
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They are looking for good dogs, there is actually a big discussion on what out-crosses they could use to try and get a better black-phase but still not end up making it a different line of the breed I guess you could say, basically still get wolf-greys out of a black-phase bitch (as an example).
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Ah, I have found some more information which explains why I think that many litters look alike. This is a post from on of the breeders on the forum, I hope this helps answer your question better...
"There was a lot of inbreeding going on in the Utonagan and NI breeds, sadly it was prevalent in the lines behind our Tamaskan (something we didnt learn until later) but the breeder changed the pedigrees so you couldnt tell (the reason we introduced DNA testing). It has taken a very long time to unravel all of the pedigrees and set them straight and we now think they are correct (but only she knows 100% and she isnt telling) this is one of the main reasons that we introduced so many outcross dogs at once, a risk some say, but one that paid off. We wanted to keep our look (or improve it) but have something not related to any of the wolf look alikes in Britain as who knows how interbred they are really. Our search took us to Finland (no way anything was related over there) and we bought in 7 new dogs to add to the 10 dogs that we already had (not just at Blustag) between then and now we have added in 6 new foundation dogs not related to any of the other dogs, this has given us 23 breeding dogs, most of which were not related in any way and although our original 10 English dogs had some inbreeding behind them we no longer mate English to English but always mix English to Finnish. Of course now our 2nd and 3rd generation Tamaskan are nearly all half English and half Finnish but we trust that our breeders will study pedigrees carefully before breeding, we already have some rules in place to prevent breeding of two dogs both with Keisha or Cougar (both English) in their pedigree because of a heightened risk of epilepsy."
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Still weird, if they look for wolfish looking dogs if you ask me. Considered how different wolves look, they should have different lines.
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Wow you own a Tamaskan? I have many questions concerning Tamaskans, would you mind sparing some of your time to answer me? I'm interested what their character is like, if they are different from other breeds in behavior, activity or intelligence, how is it with their health? The founders claim that this is the only wolf-like breed without actual wolf in them, so I'm very curious and it's not every day you meet a person that actually owns one:]
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I don't mind answering your questions at all
If you have any more questions I'll be more than happy to answer
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Thank you for the lengthy answer!
He sounds perfect 
Also the tamaskan's lesser need of activity than husky can be very good for less active people, do people use tamaskans in training, sports? Like obedience, agility, shutzhund, drug finding, search-rescue?
Thank you for the forum link, I'll check it out.
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They do use Tamaskans in agility, very great with obedience too. There have also been some Tamaskans who pull sleds. It is said they can do search-rescue but I have not seen record of it yet, same with drug finding. I don't think they would participate in shutzhund as I believe they wouldn't have all the traits for it, like bonding with one handler (they love everyone), or protective instinct I think. I do plan on doing agility just for fun in our backyard with Ulric and canicross once he is 2 yrs old.
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That's great. Thank you and I wish you and Ulric great success!
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Thank you! And I look forward to seeing more pictures you post and wish you and Raksha the best
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