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Final Words
It is with a hesitant mind and a bloated heart that I write this. DailyLitDeviations was something that was formed out of frustration and anger. I suppose I am not surprised to see it go out that way. A young man named Brandon and I were complaining in a private chat room about how little literature was featured on dA and that we were tired of it. We both wrote several emails to the staff only to be ignored like so many quality artists out there. Eventually we knew that we had to do something or explode from frustration. And so DLD was born. I stayed up for 5 or 7 days straight. My wife hated me and my phone bill went through the roof as I was constantly on it with Brandon. I set it up and then started my search for greatness. I found more than I expected to.
Moving forward, I needed help. Brandon did not do much of the running, he was more of an idea guy. I put out an all call for admins and got an overwhelming response. Jamie and Lisa, along with countless others came on board and helped me turn an idea into a community.
A little inside information: I am a paranoid schizophrenic with several other psychiatric disorders. I was not properly medicated and my life and mind were in a constant state of turmoil. I would sleep for days, not sleep for days, not shower or eat, not realize I had another person in my life, I was a mess, but I marched on for a little over 2 years. I had a break and I could not take it anymore. Brandon was gone, so I needed someone to turn it over to. I chose a friend of mine named Caron. She only had it for a minute before she realized it was too much. Lisa then assumed the helm.
I stepped away completely soon thereafter. Lisa ran the account to the best of her ability. It flourished. New articles formed. The community got larger. New people spoke up and found their voices. It was a wonderful time to be a part of the literature community on deviantART. However, Lisa has some things going on in her own head and in her own life. She ultimately could no longer do the day to day things that needed to be done and so Lili stepped up to the plate and hit a homerun.
I tried to come back and help out a time or two, but I was not as stable as my unstable mind led me to believe and ultimately nearly burned that bridge down.
Move on to the present. Lisa held on to the account, but let others run it in her stead. It was putting out what it was supposed to, for the most part, but some of us were not happy. Content was degrading and the account itself was being neglected. I read the articles every day. I was moved less often. When Lisa logged into the account and there were literally thousands of unanswered messages she got more than a little mad. That was not the first straw.
There is the issue of the historical article.
I was contacted several months ago by Shane who asked me to help him get the article together. At the time I was still coming under control and my memory was failing me badly. I told him that it was impossible for me to remember all of that, but he should contact others. He took great pains to do all of that and put together what he thought was the most accurate version of the past. It looked good, but it was not 100% accurate. Not his fault.
Shane was asked to change the article on more than one occasion and he did at least once. Eventually he would no longer change it for whatever reason. I have not spoken to him on the matter and thus do not have the whole story, but I have what I have.
Lisa decided that the article should merely be taken down to avoid any drama and Shane stood his ground stating that if she took the article down he would resign. She took the article down and he resigned. That was the final straw. Lisa then stated historical facts as she knew them and decided this was as good a time for closure, as any would never be good.
It is not the first time the account nearly shut down. There has been a lot of drama over the years. Admins have come and gone and some of them made a huge stink. Where there are people there are problems, but problems need solved and the only ones who can solve them are people. So DailyLitDeviations is gone. I am sorry in some ways. In some ways I knew this would happen someday. Lisa did not consult with me, but she did not have to. She did not have to consult with anyone. I cannot say I would not have done a similar thing, but I cannot say I agree 100% with her decision. I stand by her as a colleague and a friend and I always will.
So now we have a problem. The community is not ready for this end. I understand, but it needs to be accepted. DLD is no more. It is over. It had a great run, but it is time to say goodbye.
The admins of the club/group will be contacted to see where they want to go. The community is welcome to do as they wish, but I will say there will be a new refuge to go to. Please see TheseKrimzonFlames or VertigoArt ’s personal journals for more information on that.
I want to thank everyone who has ever been a part of this. Whether you featured someone as an admin, you wrote an article, you suggested a piece or you were featured, we love you and we wish you all well.
This account will remain open. It will be inactive. Please do not send notes to the account as no one will respond to them. You may post comments on the account and some of us will try to check back occasionally and answer you. If you have something you wish to get off your chest contact me privately and we will make it happen.
As a final note, I want to plead with you all to stop attacking Lisa. She is a person, just like you, and it hurts. Don’t be a bully. Don’t sink down. Don’t do to her what you would not want done to you. She is a wonderful person. Without her I would probably be in an institution for quite some time.
With all my love, I will leave to your pens.
VertigoArt
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Comments: 28
VicariouSoul [2014-04-22 04:06:42 +0000 UTC]
The fall of DailyLitDeviations reminds me of, in a sense, the fall of the Roman Empire forsaken by the ancient dead once thrived there.
This is what goodbyes like these sound like: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsvqd2… (Gladiator - Elysium)
It is very sad, but all... great things... come to an end...
P.S. I am glad I was an Admin at one time for such an awesome literary movement. I was planning on coming back as an Admin sometime, but then I read this.
Farewell and future.
VicariouSoul
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spoems [2014-04-15 00:23:29 +0000 UTC]
I told myself that I was not going to respond to anymore of these journals, but I feel compelled to defend the admins of DLD. Firstly, I did periodically read the DLD messages and clear them out. I'm kind of tired of seeing that complaint that we were neglecting them. DLD was probably averaging anywhere from 50 to 100 messages per week. Most of them were "thanks for the feature" or were mentions. I'm not sure why anyone thinks that these comments required a direct repsonse from the account. Whenever there was a question put to the group, we answered it.
As for not being moved by the features, that is your opinion, and I respect it. But not everyone is going to agree on what moves people and what doesn't. And everyone was encouraged to make suggestions to the admins, so complaining about what was featured without doing something about it doesn't really move me. And as everyone has pointed out, nothing that was perceived to be broken was unfixable, so using that as supporting evidence for the decision that was made is not really reasonable. I would have welcomed the suggestions for improvement, but I didn't get any. So, we should move on and stop trying to rationalize the decision one person made to close the group. DLD was perfectly fine, it could have been improved, and could have continued as long as this website.
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SilverInkblot In reply to spoems [2014-04-16 04:36:53 +0000 UTC]
I believe you won this round of comments
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Aconitum-Napellus [2014-04-13 22:24:00 +0000 UTC]
This is just so sad. DLD gave me hope that writing was getting the recognition it deserved on this site. It has meant so much. I've been proud to be given DLDs, almost as proud as DDs. It's so sad for it to end in this way, but maybe it's a hint that dA isn't the place for me any more.
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BellaRomatica [2014-04-13 18:17:53 +0000 UTC]
Huh....but why didn't you just give the account to someone else?
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VertigoArt In reply to BellaRomatica [2014-04-13 19:36:10 +0000 UTC]
Sometimes you just have to stop and go in a different direction. Let's find wonderful things along this new road.
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Shyanne-Kai [2014-04-13 16:17:59 +0000 UTC]
I'm reading this with tears in my eyes. There is so little exposure for writers on this site, and this group gave me more hope for my writing and page visits than I would have ever had. I'm so thankful to you, for continuing to create a space for talented writers to showcase their work to Daily Deviations.
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AspiredWriter [2014-04-13 08:23:54 +0000 UTC]
i'm sorry i still don't understand why it isn't possible simply to exchange hands. so is there a new DLD group? this seems unclear.
i don't agree with the personal attacks and i hate to see so much awefulness going around in a place i consider something of a home. they say every story has two sides but this story seems to have many more. as a writer i think it'd make a good story to be written, what do you guys think? in any case i don't want to lose DLD wether it's here or on a different named group. please someone make it clear where it shall go on, who's taking care of it, etc. thank you.
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VertigoArt In reply to AspiredWriter [2014-04-13 10:24:08 +0000 UTC]
Head over to VertigoArt 's journal for more Information. Thanks for your support
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xlntwtch [2014-04-13 07:06:50 +0000 UTC]
All I can say is what I did and know a little bit about. I was a DLD admin for some months before illness took all my energy. I was even hospitalized; with pneumonia, exhaustion and malnutrition. I rarely got suggestions for DLDs and had been reading group and individual prose to find pieces I thought 'worthy' of a feature at DLD. It's my fault I didn't eat right, stayed up all night, etc. Then I had to quit. Shane understood, though he said I found the best prose he'd seen there in some time. All that aside, I'll visit the new versions of DLD as linked here and hope for the best. I didn't get to know the other DLD admins much.
Now, on with the new, and if there's bitterness out there, keep it to yourselves. It'll go away if you let it. Best wishes.
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SingingFlames [2014-04-13 04:28:40 +0000 UTC]
I'm sad to see the group go. It was a wonderful concept. But I understand that things happen. I wish the best of luck to all of you in all your future endeavors.
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NamelessShe [2014-04-13 03:41:13 +0000 UTC]
I think I'm even more confused now, but I wish the best for everyone.
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VertigoArt In reply to NamelessShe [2014-04-13 03:45:32 +0000 UTC]
What are you confused about?
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NamelessShe In reply to VertigoArt [2014-04-13 03:56:24 +0000 UTC]
A couple of things---and I could just be having a massive reading comprehension problem---I don't really understand why it's time to say goodbye and why the account just can't be passed on to the interested parties.
And again, I'm sorry if I come across poorly, I don't usually comment on these kind of things---but when it was said the content was degrading, it made me think you were talking about the submissions. I apologize if my interpretation is incorrect, but that was how it came across to me. And it made me sad. I have yet to read a dld that I thought was undeserving.
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VertigoArt In reply to NamelessShe [2014-04-13 03:59:08 +0000 UTC]
I understand your confusion. DLD had spread itself too thin. Things could have changed, but it would have been an overhaul. This is the right direction for the community. We need to thank Lisa for keeping it staffed and going as long as she did. The place could have died when I stepped away the first time.
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NamelessShe In reply to VertigoArt [2014-04-13 04:00:23 +0000 UTC]
I understand, thank you for the clarification.
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beeswingblue [2014-04-13 03:23:08 +0000 UTC]
Why the blow-by-blow? Why the [if restrained] finger pointing? No drama is necessary; we don't need to know the details -- it's really none of my or anyone's business. Move on, don't move on. It's all the same. But keep it to yourselves. It's really none of our business.
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VertigoArt In reply to beeswingblue [2014-04-13 03:46:09 +0000 UTC]
People wanted to know. We told people. Now People know. We don't keep things in, we're writers.
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beeswingblue In reply to VertigoArt [2014-04-13 04:14:12 +0000 UTC]
Ack! That should have read "as far as my perception of it goes." I'm calling it a night ["It's a night."] Best wishes with all of this, wherever you choose to take it. In a way -- I hope -- is benign.
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beeswingblue In reply to VertigoArt [2014-04-13 04:11:32 +0000 UTC]
You told one perspective, which is the only one you could tell. My husband always talks about the movie "Rashomon" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon
I confess I didn't read the entire Wikipedia article. The intro seems to capture the gist of it, at least as far as perception of it goes.
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callerofcrows [2014-04-13 03:16:53 +0000 UTC]
It breaks my heart that things had to end this way, but I'm full of hope that the new group will work out and improve on the wonderful foundation DLD laid.
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TheseKrimzonFlames [2014-04-13 03:08:41 +0000 UTC]
The information can, and will, still be found in my journals, but I, sadly, can't be the presence on this as I hope I could, and would be, and my own journal explains why that is.
I also ask that everyone leave Lisa alone, if for no other reason than it's just not worth it. There comes a point, that no matter how much validation one feels they have, and may even actually have, it's just not worth it.
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