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Dametora — a different way of seeing it

Published: 2012-11-13 06:29:08 +0000 UTC; Views: 987; Favourites: 28; Downloads: 10
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Description I had more but I forgot to write them down, so I don't remember them.

Instead of looking at suicide with obnoxious optimism and “UR NAWT TRYIN HARD ENUFF” bullshit, let’s look at some facts.
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Shadowpsycho [2013-04-20 21:16:54 +0000 UTC]

Would you at all be offended if I showed this to someone who was seriously suicidal at any point in the future? I'm not saying that I know anyone now, but perhaps I will someday. My great grandfather committed suicide back when my grandmother was a teenager, and the more I look at this, the more I think that I he had someone around him who could show him this, he might not have gone through with it. That being said, it was his suicide that taught my grandmother how to be stronger and it was what lead her to her faith (she's Christian, but she's thankfully one of those really cool Christians and I love her for how strong, vibrant and full of life she is).

If ever there was anything that I was grateful for learning from her, it was the lesson she learned from him - you can't change the past, but there's no point in letting it rule your life.

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Dametora In reply to Shadowpsycho [2013-04-23 02:22:27 +0000 UTC]

Of course I wouldn't be offended, if you think it will help please go ahead.

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Shadowpsycho In reply to Dametora [2013-04-23 05:34:45 +0000 UTC]

Thank you very much.

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Hanachino-Hime [2012-11-26 21:52:35 +0000 UTC]

Not many know it but my mom committed suicide years ago, and I don't feel grudge against her, I actually feel a bit guilty. I feel like I didn't tell her enough how much I loved her. She lost her job and she was depressed in general and my dad was an alcoholic , but I'm not sure what in the end made her do what she did. I was younger then, and didn't really understand the seriousness of her situation.

While I understood she couldn't take it anymore, I felt like she shouldn't have left me and my brother. Because she was a parent, who had agreed to have kids and take care of them.

But I hear sometimes people saying how those who commit suicide are pathetic, selfish and horrible, and it does hurt me because my mom was really gentle and kind and always put other people's needs before her own. But I understand the fact that my aunt was angry at her, because she left me and my brother, kinda alone. We were with our dad for a while, but then on my 13th birthday he tried to commit suicide too, but I stopped him by taking the gun from his hand. It was horrible. I was in shock. I called my dad's girlfriend and cried and then the police was there and I don't really remember everything. I was so terrified that if I would have come home 5 minutes later, I might be an orphan.

It was pretty obvious we couldn't live with our dad after that. On top of it all, I was bullied in school (heck, all my life). Sometimes I pretended to be sick (this happened only while I still lived at home, after that it wasn't possible anymore) so I didn't have to go to school. Oddly, I still got good grades.

Though I wasn't really lying. I WAS sick. It just wasn't a fever.

I don't like when people who 'haven't been there', in that desperate situation, come and judge others. Suicide isn't easy, it's far from that. But I think if you want to have kids, I think you should really try to live for them, at least when they're old enough. But I'm not telling people what to do.

Beautifully put. I'm sorry I started to rant, but I felt like I needed to explain my view on this.

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Dametora In reply to Hanachino-Hime [2012-11-27 01:04:02 +0000 UTC]

No need to be sorry. I think it needed to be said. I'm sorry you went through all that, and that your parents suffered so. We do wish they could be there for us at least, but sometimes depression convinces us that others are better off without us, even if they're only children.

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Hanachino-Hime In reply to Dametora [2012-11-27 17:45:08 +0000 UTC]

I think what people fail to realize is that suicide isn't really about being either tough or weak, it's about do you consider your life worth living. And sometimes you just think you're a nuisance for others. It's really unfortunate.

I feel a lot better now though, and so does my dad. I wish everything good for you as well; from what I have read from your tumblr I know it's not easy for you either, since your parents sound rather bad parents (sorry to say this).

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Dametora In reply to Hanachino-Hime [2012-11-28 01:37:19 +0000 UTC]

It is really unfortunate.

I'm glad you both feel a lot better. And it's okay to say it, I know it's hard for anyone to say that about others' parents, but sometimes it's really true.

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Hanachino-Hime In reply to Dametora [2012-12-15 21:06:49 +0000 UTC]

I was talking with my co-worker the other day, a man about 40-50 years old. We were talking about religion and I told him I didn't actually believe that praying works, and he said to me; "Obviously someone who hasn't had any hardships in their life, does not believe in the power of pray."

It made me feel awful and I wanted to hit him. Then he said that atheism/agnotism makes people not to care about others(he is Christian),even though he very well knew I'm agnostic who is interested in nature religions.

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Dametora In reply to Hanachino-Hime [2012-12-20 08:40:02 +0000 UTC]

He was clearly trying to bite at you, being vindictive and nasty to hurt you.

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PastelLitch [2012-11-22 18:39:20 +0000 UTC]

Wow. Beautifully put. My friend Nikki committed suicide recently. I didn't know her in real life, just over the internet. Devastating non the less.
I wish something like this would've swayed her. I'm not saying it would have, but it's nice to think it would.
Reasons like this go through my head when I'm getting commands to commit suicide. Pretty much the reason why I'm not dead right now XD

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Dametora In reply to PastelLitch [2012-11-25 23:41:14 +0000 UTC]

I'm very sorry to hear about your friend and I hope she is at least at peace now. And yes, our Internet friends do mean a lot to us, sometimes more than our offline friends.

I'm glad you are able to avert your thoughts, at least.

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Scarla-MCR [2012-11-19 03:55:00 +0000 UTC]

I really needed to hear this. Thank you, and beautifully said.

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jessie0wessie [2012-11-18 06:33:06 +0000 UTC]

It is not an act of strength to kill oneself. It is an act of weakness.

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Dametora In reply to jessie0wessie [2012-11-22 03:37:28 +0000 UTC]

Try and kill yourself and see how little resolve it takes.

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jessie0wessie In reply to Dametora [2012-11-24 09:17:40 +0000 UTC]

When you kill yourself, you submit to how hard life is. That is one option, but you can keep living, get past it, then live a better life. If life is bad, remove yourself from that situation asap. Trying to kill yourself though does take little resolve as you say. What has that got to do with what I said though?

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Dametora In reply to jessie0wessie [2012-11-25 23:26:46 +0000 UTC]

Wow you really don't know anything about life, depression, and suicide, do you?

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jessie0wessie In reply to Dametora [2012-11-29 01:06:04 +0000 UTC]

I have several friends who have been through suicidal and depressive stages. I went through one myself. This is my personal opinion from what I know and my experience.

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Dametora In reply to jessie0wessie [2012-11-29 07:45:29 +0000 UTC]

So you know for a fact that depressed and suicidal people are just weak and not trying hard enough?

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jessie0wessie In reply to Dametora [2012-11-29 20:07:25 +0000 UTC]

They have their life in their hands, they have the power to change it. My own best friend, who went from suicidal to the happiest girl in the world by simply changing schools, told me that herself. The moment you stop caring about what the world thinks the minute it gets better. I'm not saying they are weak I'm saying they don't have the courage to make a change, or decision that could potentially make their world 100 times better than it was. Thus ridding themselves of said depression and suicidal thoughts. All you have to do is make changes in and around your life. For most people its a simple change like the people you hang out with, or if you have no friends then are you actually trying to make them, and things like that. Simple solutions, but not many take the time to notice this/ have the courage to take up the solution. For many it takes time.

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Eearii In reply to jessie0wessie [2012-12-01 10:07:05 +0000 UTC]

Go take a Psychology course. While it is true that some depression is caused by the world around a person (situational depression), there is also a type that just forms out of no where (chemical or hereditary depression). While situations can aggravate the latter, it can, and often will, happen for no reason at all, or for very stupid ones (one of my friends had a break down because her boyfriend played another game of LoL). Mental illness and health is not a simple thing, there is no one answer. It varies from person to person, sometimes in minor ways, but often majorly.
So, please don't try and "cure" something you don't know much about.

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Dametora In reply to jessie0wessie [2012-11-30 06:00:03 +0000 UTC]

Because it's so fucking easy to move. Because depression is cured by just moving. Because it's all your fault you're depressed and it can be cured if you JUST TRY HARD ENUFF. Because depression means you're a pissant coward, which is the EQUIVALENT OF WEAKNESS. Because with the power of your life in your hands, that means you're weak if you actually use that power a way you don't agree with. DEPRESSION IS ALL IN YOUR HEAD IT'S YOUR FAULT YOU'RE JUST NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH YOU STUPID COWARDLY WEAK SHIT THIS MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER TO HEAR TEH TROOF.

Fuck the flying fuck off. You don't know anything about fucking mental illness and I'm going to make sure you're kicked out of the club.

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MrFuddles [2012-11-18 05:41:08 +0000 UTC]

I completely agree with this to the fullest. I like your opinion. c:

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Kalypher [2012-11-14 19:27:54 +0000 UTC]

I particularly like the last line.

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Smiffagriff [2012-11-14 02:46:46 +0000 UTC]

love it.

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Rossellini [2012-11-13 21:46:51 +0000 UTC]

DD this shit

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Scriddles [2012-11-13 17:13:08 +0000 UTC]

This is wonderful.

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Sparkiex [2012-11-13 16:15:00 +0000 UTC]

thank you i like this
these are unique and different and may actually encourage people not to kill themselves instead of the stupid usual shit

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Eccetra [2012-11-13 06:53:58 +0000 UTC]

I like this.

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