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Got permission to post my friend's pics. Here's the progress shots from my most recent deviation if anyone wanted to see. [link]Related content
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Wow... o.o that was just... wow o_o...
I loved it!
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I think it's a good use for friends. XD
Thanks.
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Only a small abuse of my friends as models...
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The boys had to do that to post the pic... awkward...
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I think it's amazing how u did this... I've coloured over a picture before, but this was the result : [link]
I could never alter it as you have... it's so good!!! 
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Yeah, people have this misconception that paint-overs are just tracing and don't take skills, etc. But when I do them, I try really hard to make them my own.
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I think it takes more skill, after all if you didn't do it this way, you would probably just render using their pose as reference, and it would be the same thing but in more steps 
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Yeah pretty much what I do.
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Very cool man!!
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Thanks. 
I got Mike and Tim to let me take more pics, but I haven't used them yet. 
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HAHA all my idea pairings are like germany and russia 
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See, I really enjoy things like this. Like how you actually used a picture and painted over it. This turned out very nicely (although the taller one's skin didn't look so well.) I don't want to point out flaws, because it looks nicely done! Perhaps you should try different techs next time, like lineart first for example. Hope you don't mind, but I'm definitely going to try this method and hope for the best.
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I did fix his skin a bit (though still a bit off), but I'm to lazy to re-upload.
Oh trust me, this is not my only technique just one of my favorites.
For paintovers, I go into slightly more detail here: [link]
Some of my other process shots and tutorials here: [link]
While I don't mind starting with lineart if someone else drew it. Lineart is very difficult and frustrating for me to do. I spend as much time if not more drawing and refining the lineart that most of the time I skip it and go straight from sketch to coloring.
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I just need to ask - 
Also, regarding your recent poll - if you were worried about it being like tracing or something to do with being too much like the original work - maybe don't paint directly over it? 
But you still add a lot of detail to the pics.
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Haha, no, I didn't make two of my straight guy friends kiss and cuddle. They are currently dating one another. My friend *FlannMoriath was actually the one that asked them and took the photos. We sell art at conventions together. And since my paintovers sell better, she thought it would be good if I was using photographs I didn't find on the net.
I'm not so worried about my work being a 2nd rate copy of the original, I make sure that that is not the case. It's more the fact that the many feel the magic is lost and the work not as valuable when finding out it wasn't done from scratch.
I wish it was simple as, then don't do paintovers. You know those stupid poorly drawn comics? Like [link] and [link] ? That is actually my sad drawing ability without using reference.
Whereas my coloring ability is this level: [link]
There is a reason I do a lot more colorings and paintovers than original art. Because it takes a long time to cover up how bad my original drawings were and make them look good. And I definitely have a big complex about this. I am always struggling to keep my self confidence up My mind has a habit of thinking my skills and I are worthless because other's skills are better. I do fish for compliments and comments as validation for my own work. But deny these compliments for fear of actually thinking I'm good at something, or worse think I'm good at something I'm not. I think rationally but I act based off of emotions. Unfortunately emotionally I'm a mess, so I try and cover that up by not making many friends, and turning everything into a joke.
And while I can continue to talk about my complexes. I should probably stop, because 1. I'm getting off topic and 2. I could go on forever. I play "make believe therapist" way to much (I talk to myself with one self playing the therapist, and the other self playing me). That said, I shall keep denying that I am crazy or weird, or in need of meds 
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Oh, I see.
Those comics never struck me as being drawn badly!
I think *Bakanekonei is an excellent colourist - she's a pro - and her story was that she had initially tried to do both the lines and the colours, but she had found that it was difficult and tedious for her to do the lines, but colouring in was easy and interesting for her. So she focused on that area, and is hired for that now. Perfectly legitimate POV.
I'm sure that being a perfectionist would make you learn faster and keep the quality high. It's OK to learn- that's why pencils have erasers. (and that's why Photoshop has the eraser tool
You might want to attend to the positives of becoming better, rather than out of fear of... umm... something. 
Yay the emotional messes! *reaches out then turns into a pile of emotional gooey mess herself* 
And I'd heard that it's a therapeutic technique - to discuss the (unspoken) narrative between a person and their problem - saying what the problem (as if it were another person) is telling them to believe and the implications of that (that's the therapy in a nutshell). (actually it's called 'narrative therapy' - and it's alternative - so IMO what you're doing is a rather humanistic and refined form of therapy). (and it is basically what you're doing, because by being the therapist, you're temporarily distancing yourself from the '
But seriously - everything I've mentioned here - you're the final judge. If something doesn't sit right, feel free to disregard it, and I'd be behind you on that.
And in the crappily-drawn comics comp... [link] [link] I win. Sorry, sweets! 
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They've been together a little over a year, I believe. I think they're cute together. I also think Flann and her girlfriend are cute together. And thus half my friends here at college are gay. *twitters happily* Defining my own sexuality is still on my to do list, however. I decided to procrastinate that until after I graduate. 
I've been told that the minute you become satisfied with your art is the minute you stop improving. XD Lol. So I guess I am still improving. Which is true so far. I joined dA in 2005, and now in 2008 I am much better at art than before.
The sketching problem is more a problem with knowing where to draw the lines than a problem with drawing itself. I can freehand copy something from a photo, or life just fine. My minds pretty mathmatical, copying is a matter of proportions and scale.
But to do something completely original. It becomes very for me to difficult to place all the elements into one composition with proper scaling that is good enough to not bother the eye. I understand how to draw perspective. But I have no idea how to handle perspective the minute the object is no longer a box. I've memorized some human proportions, but I don't know how to apply them the minute the person isn't standing up straight and facing you, nor do i remember all the muscles and parts. And how people draw smooth straight and curved lines is beyond me. Mine end up wiggly and sloppy. I think it's mostly a practice thing. But I don't have a lot of patience for practice. I like to see results.
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Oh, so you can copy from a photo? That's pretty good.
XD - what about using guidelines? (guides? whatever you call it) They're supposed to help with 3D.
Anyway, sounds like you've been doing a lot of research on it.
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Sure, [link] other than the two watercolors. Most of those are drawn from life. The whiteboard drawings were copied from mangas.
[link] was originally a sharpie drawing copied from a photograph of a panda eating bamboo. I used the sharpie drawing as reference, for the final illustration.
My sharpie drawings look like this: [link] A simplification of the form. That prairie dogs was copied from a photo, I just gave it a mouth and added drool and other random things.
And things like the animals in:
[link]
I had a photo of a cartoon animal and a photograph of the actual animal and combined them in my drawing.
*shrugs* Some of my pictures I spent as much time researching and finding reference, planning and prepping, as I do creating it.
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Yeah, I remember that zombie panda one.
Prairie dogs are so much cuter when they drool. 
Maybe I misinterpreted what you said before - it seemed like you wanted to ONLY focus on colouring, as opposed to developing a weaker skill. But it seems like you're doing everything.
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Dunno, felt like making it a vampire bunny.
No I like coloring more, because I have to fight a lot with my drawings.
I do do a lot of everything, which is part of the problem. Getting good at drawing something (so I'm told) is repetition. Draw something enough and you can draw it from memory. The more popular artists on dA, look at their gallery they tend to stick to one style and medium, and they are really good at it. But I tend to switch subjects and styles regularly or I get bored.
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Looks like there's plus sides and down sides to both ways - I've heard people criticised for sticking to an art style.
But you do push yourself hard.
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Lol, I spend more time complaining than I do actually pushing myself hard.
I'm so human it's not even funny.
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Ha ha! Oh well, you know where you want to be.
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XDDDD With artistic implements.
Who knows, vomit could be a legitimate medium. (seasick)
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Vomit and fish guts. Sounds like a masterpiece in the making.
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Add a bit of dog poop just in case it doesn't smell artistic enough.
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In that case, Chennai is a very artistic city.
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Something like 75% of the dust in the city is dried doggy doo.
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DDD:
...unless it's chocolate.
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Oh it's a normal cake, it just happens to be covered in dust of questionable origins.
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Well, if one's never tasted chocolate before...
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Yeah, could be bitter chocolate sprinkled on the top...
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