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Published: 2017-03-10 20:18:44 +0000 UTC; Views: 1502; Favourites: 30; Downloads: 4
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Okay, I'm just fuckin' pissed off. Really. I just hate those guys, who say: "Non-forcer can't beat a force-user", and to every counter-argument they have only one answer: "BUT DA FORCE!". TAKE YOUR FREAKIN' FORCE AND STICK IT IN YOUR SHEBSE, MOTHERFUCKERS! BOBA FETT HAS BEATEN DARTH VADER (Comic "Star Wars, Boba Fett: Enemy of the Empire")! JANGO FETT HAS KILLED SIX JEDI WITH HIS BARE HANDS (Battle of Galidraan. Comic "Star Wars, Jango Fett: Open Season")! KELBORN KILLED THREE SITH-ASSASSINS IN A MELEE FIGHT (Videogame "Star Wars, Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords")! WHERE IS YOUR FUCKIN' FORCE NOW? WHAT AM I SAYING? GENERAL, FUCKIN', GRIEVOUS KILLED SOMEWHAT LIKE 30 JEDI! AND HE DIDN'T USE THE FORCE! AAAAAARGH, I'M SO PISSED OFF!Star Wars belongs to LucasArts and dis'ne
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amtboyce [2019-05-03 19:23:37 +0000 UTC]
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Amalgamation100 [2017-03-17 06:43:04 +0000 UTC]
I agree with everything except "Boba Fett beat Darth Vader"
that never happened, idk what comic you were reading but Vader overpowered Fett and Fett only just managed to escape with his life and only because he was going easy on him and needed that head thingy. Anyway...
However, you are correct when you say that none-force users can beat force users it just depends on the skills of both, also the force flows through all living things in the Star Wars galaxy/universe, meaning that even "none-force users" have the force in them to a degree. Obi-Wan was considered to be weak in the force, with a low midichlorian count, he only just had enough to get into the Jedi order and was almost expelled for lack of ability several times when he was younger, Qui-Gon saved him from being expelled by taking him as an apprentice when no one else wanted him. It was only through dedication, practice and improving his skill did he become one of the greatest Jedi Masters of all time, this tells me that people like Boba or Han Solo who would still have Midichlorians in there system but not enough to become a Jedi, when honing there skills and reflexes, are improving upon the force within them to become the best of what they are. Force enhances everything, even reflexes and aim.
I say this even though I hate Midichlorians but hey it's canon XD
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Arandompokemonfan [2017-03-10 23:38:27 +0000 UTC]
Mandalorians are infamous for being able to beat Force-wielders in some cases. Sure, Jedi and Sith are though bastards, but they ain't invincible.
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Sombraptor [2017-03-10 21:57:43 +0000 UTC]
Look vod...it's complicated topic.
In Enemy of the Empire, Vader wasn't going all out since he needed the...uh...alien head thing that saw the future (I think, it's been a while) that Fett was holding. Boba's my favorite character, but in an outright fight he doesn't stand a ghost of a chance.
As for Galidraan, those weren't suuuper high-level Jedi, but it's still GODDAMN impressive. Poor Jango...
And Grievous...well, if you've read Labyrinth of Evil and the ROTS novelization, they go into details about his cybernetics. There probably isn't ONE non-Force user, and even very few Force users who could ever hope to beat him (in melee). It was pretty much shown that Obi-Wan was the only one in the Order (at the time, at least) who could beat him because of Obi's mastery of Soresu.
Just saying, but in general Force user>non Force user but there are exceptions, of course. But you're right, simply FORCE>NON-FORCE isn't a valid argument for EVERY discussion.
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DarthS4nchez In reply to Sombraptor [2017-03-11 11:14:53 +0000 UTC]
Of course, I agree that the guy, who uses the Force has great advantage against the one, who doesn't. But that doesn't mean that non Force user has no chance for victory. Especially if we're talking about someone well-trained and prepared for a fight. These jedi and sith can be killed, they can be beaten. And I just can't stand those, who deny it, saying "DA FORCE BEATS ANYTHING, ONLY A JEDI CAN KILL SITH (or the reverse version)"
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Sombraptor In reply to DarthS4nchez [2017-03-11 18:05:02 +0000 UTC]
Right. I mean, there's Order 66, after all.
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DarthS4nchez In reply to mikeyway3994 [2017-03-11 11:30:27 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, where? I don't actually remember such thing
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mikeyway3994 In reply to DarthS4nchez [2017-03-12 03:35:16 +0000 UTC]
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grievo…
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Sombraptor In reply to DarthS4nchez [2017-03-11 18:04:10 +0000 UTC]
He's confused about a certain panel in Dark Horse's General Grievous comic, where it looks like he's using the Force, but he isn't really
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RC-5968Frank [2017-03-10 20:52:39 +0000 UTC]
for real man! I mean clones don't have the force, but um, ORDER 66?!?!?! The force didn't stop some ten thousand jedi from getting blown away! I honestly prefer non force users to force users, unless they have it by reasonable family ties so long as they aren't mary sue force powers. If your character can't die because of force powers, then that's just a lame duck OC. Mandos and Clones are true warriors. They are who they are and they stick to their culture. They fight hard for what they get and earn it, nothing comes easily to them. Not to mention they generally look cooler. Jedi are just too stupid. They honestly could have prevented so many things but didn't, are terrible at their job, and force people to inhuman. Being pure is great, but love and such are healthy. All emotions are necessary and right, so long as you control them. Friggin jedi man...overrated shabuirs.
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DarthS4nchez In reply to RC-5968Frank [2017-03-11 11:29:38 +0000 UTC]
Damn, exactly my thoughts
Of course it also depends on the character himself, and I believe that there can be both, a poor-writen mandalorian char and a nice, interesting jedi or sith. But if we're talking about masses and organisations... Yeah. Like you said: overrated shabuire
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RC-5968Frank In reply to DarthS4nchez [2017-03-11 22:31:45 +0000 UTC]
For real. I mean Jedi can be really cool, like in TCW show, but for kriffing crying out loud, the prequels made them terrible so that the main ones could look like they were better at their job. they were all undeveloped, stereotypical of the ideal stock jedi, and they all died easily. they should live up to expectations, but still not be mary sues that win always because of the force. Mandos on the other hand are underrated by fans, there is a huge following, but ask any regular fan and they'll tell you "oh they're weak because Jango and Boba both died so stupidly by Jedi, so um, I don't know why you keep telling me all of these stories, cuz if it's not in the movies it's not true."
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