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davidfoxfire — 1920s Johnny, Take 2 by-nc-sa

Published: 2012-10-04 06:30:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 2182; Favourites: 9; Downloads: 45
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Description I said earlier in the journal [link] that I'm having problems making a 1920s version of Johnny that Amber will draw in the Chromatown Shorts. My initial efforts were too deep in the Uncanny Valley, then I made the ears solid and it looked somewhat better.

I could use a little feedback to make this better. So I can use it when I get to the color and shading phase.

Oh, and I know that one leg's a bit too short, but this is an alpha sketch anyway.

Edit 1: I made a better depiction of 1928 Johnny. But this time with the Modern Day Johnny to compare. I think you can guess what dances they're doing.

I made 1928 Johnny's body color darker so that he'll contrast more with the background. When I convert this version to Chromatown, his clothes would have some color, but he'll be stuck in grayscale. I made the ears solid (although still two-toned if you look carefully) to go with the eyes and keep him out of the Uncanny Valley. I consider this an improvement.

I also started to use more layers in my fills. (Magic Wand on the layer with the line art, move to another layer, than paint bucket. It makes things easier to make shadows, (since I can put in an in-between layer, but it's apparent that I'm starting with a minimalist approach to my shading, for now. It'll probably be that way until I get more confident in this.
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Comments: 11

PorygonV [2012-10-05 11:18:51 +0000 UTC]

Solid work. He definitely looks a lot more retro now than he did before. I was going to say something about the limbs, but I see someone got to it before I did.

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davidfoxfire In reply to PorygonV [2012-10-05 11:29:15 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, while I still have them bend at 'elbows,' I did went for the "Rubber Hose" style. And I think I'll stick with this version, it's much nicer.

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sparkyrabbit [2012-10-05 02:49:21 +0000 UTC]

I think he needs those thin wiggly limbs like old timey Mickey had.

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davidfoxfire In reply to sparkyrabbit [2012-10-05 03:09:50 +0000 UTC]

Or at least the rubber hose limbs

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sparkyrabbit In reply to davidfoxfire [2012-10-05 03:29:04 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, exactly!

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davidfoxfire In reply to sparkyrabbit [2012-10-05 03:44:23 +0000 UTC]

That's what I'm working on for Take 2, where I compare both versions of Johnny.

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sparkyrabbit In reply to davidfoxfire [2012-10-05 16:31:06 +0000 UTC]

It's better now!

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PorygonV [2012-10-04 16:09:21 +0000 UTC]

Experiment. Compared to Steamboat Willie (who actually didn't have gloves now that I look at him), Johnny has a lot more tone variety in him. That makes him look like the normal version, and thus the uncanny valley effect.

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davidfoxfire In reply to PorygonV [2012-10-04 16:11:40 +0000 UTC]

Got it.

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PorygonV [2012-10-04 12:24:44 +0000 UTC]

At first glance, I think the le- Oh wait, you saw that already.

Ahem.

While the backgrounds and set pieces in old cartoons are in full grey scale, the characters themselves mostly use the extremes of that scale so the audience can see them against the backgrounds. Remember Timeless River from Kingdom Hearts 2?

You might be seeing the uncanny valley effect from this image because a simplification of Johnny's design doesn't change him much at all; A quick glance between this and the normal Johnny shows the difference is just the eyes and ears, nothing else (outfit notwithstanding) really changes.

The only issue I can really see out of fixing the grey scale is that Johnny might end up looking a lot more like Mickey Mouse than a 20s version of himself; I think it would be in your best interest to change his wardrobe from something other than Mickey shorts going forward.

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davidfoxfire In reply to PorygonV [2012-10-04 15:59:57 +0000 UTC]

So, just use black and white or the body? Think that'll work? (And I should've used a suspenders outfit like I mentioned before.)

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