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davincescode — Two out of three ain't bad
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Now don’t be sad (Don’t be sad)‘Cause two out of three ain’t bad
Now don’t be sad (Don’t)
‘Cause two out of three ain’t bad
Baby we can talk all night
But that ain’t getting us nowhere
‘Cause two out of three ain’t bad
‘Cause two out of three ain’t bad
Two Out Of Three Ain’t Bad - Meat Loaf
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I feel as if Lucrecia chose men (or Vincent in this case) over her own son. Her only flash and blood. I have no respect for women who do such things.
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"I don't think so. I don't think in the end she had chosen Vincent either. The thing is, there's only so much Square let us see of her in FFVII and fan often took her for the worst because 'Vincent' and the fact that there's exist this Nibelhiem sandwich but if one really looks at her character, one must realize that she's just human. As all human do, we make mistake."
"Did she choose men over her son? I think if there's anything she had chosen, she chose 'science'. Was there glory to it? I think in a way there's that secret wish to 'prove her worth'. Imagine being a woman who has to work with Hojo, in a department that is male-centric who was always haunted by her mistake that caused Vincent's father his life, I meant, just imagine 'that'. I think Lucrecia believe in science. She wishes to prove herself. Sephiroth is also a promise to better tomorrow. I know one of my friend use that angle because her Lucrecia's headcanon stated that she had miscarried a child in the past (Vincent's). Now just imagine what Jenova project might have promised! A child who is healthy, smart, strong and what such 'individual' would be capable of?"
"No. I don't think she chose men at all, unless it means the future of mankind."
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I understand that, but for the future of mankind? What sparred this all on in the first place, is the fact that President Shinra wanted to have the science department to create a being who would speak to the planet and get them to the Promise Land, where a large abundance of mako energy is located. Shinra wanted to create his Neo Midgar there. The man is money-hungry and power lustful. I don't think he is thinking about the good of mankind. The scientists may think so, but it's not the case. What Lucrecia and and Hojo did was wrong. Humans are not to play God. Giving Sephiroth a better tomorrow? No, they made him suffer and that's not right. She couldn't have at least owned up to her mistakes and fought. But instead she ran away and hid.
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"There're two individual that must be distinguished here: first, the president and second, Lucrecia. While it is true that the project might get a jump start from president Shinra with that thought in mind, it need not necessarily /means/ Lucrecia /shares/ the same goal with him. Would it be good to find the Cetra, and their promise land? Which scientists weren't intrigued by the prospect of knowledge and wisdom? What knowledge can /they/, the scientist, may learn from them? That is also another question as much as 'Would those knowledge benefit mankind in the end?'. There're reasons we dabble in history and strive to learn how Egytian managed to keep mummies in tact in the first place."
"Did the man who first invent atomic bomb think his creation is to be used at Hiroshima? No. One must accept that nothing in life is free. Even grants provided to international college students such as Chevening are still given at the prospect of placing those who have visited and learned of British culture somewhere in a position of power later on."
"They? You must first define 'They'. It depends on different people's canon but in the end, did Hojo not /trying/ to help his son? You may continue to blame Luc for not being there for her son, but you must also take it into your consideration 'What is it' should she possibly do? 'How is it' she 'even' could possibly stand against Shin-Ra? As you said, the old man is money-hungry and power lustful. 'Who is Luc' really? A woman... Just one woman with no friend left in the world because her knight was shot down and experiment upon, leaving her with only one husband whom she can't really count on."
"Why said she hasn't fought?"
"She brought Vincent back."
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It doesn't matter if its for the better good for mankind or not, human experimentation is wrong period. Both of them, Hojo and Lucrecia are not God. They had no right to dabble in such an unethical science; beneficial for mankind or not.
She may have had a chance, if only she reached out to others. I don't think staying sealed in a cave does anyone any good.
Let us not forget, it was she who gave Vincent Chaos. Hojo did experiment on Vincent, but I don't believe he was the one who gave Vincent Chaos.
Sure she brought back Vincent, but what about Sephiroth, eh? She's a mother! And mothers are supposed to protect and fought for their children! As a mother, children come first!
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"Let me just put it this way. If, say, someone had a father who's slowly dying of cancer, and the cure for him was a product from one such experiments. Supposedly this son I mention love his father dearly. To him, it's the /only/ way to save his father. Would he think twice before he made his payment for the thing, knowing full-well from where it come? Or we can go at the whole cloning/organ buying and selling issue here if it might give a clearer picture. I did not deny that it is not morally wrong. Although, I suppose we can also spend the next 20 years trying to find out if God is real, or is he not? Or what's actually constituted what men would 'moral'. It's a fine line. What I proposed is for you to try seeing it from another's point of view and not just stereotyping her because she's the reason to Vincent's demise.
"When it comes to that blame, you could say the same thing for Vincent. What good did he do sleeping his days away for 30 years? What good did he /do/ before? He was a Turk. I'm sure that had he wanted that project to end, there are many things he could have done. Instead, he stayed in his precious silence."
"That is why he called the whole thing, 'his sin'"
"Also one must not forget that it was because of Chaos, Vincent 'lived' again. If not for Chaos, he would spend his days away being like those brain-dead patient just waiting for someone to unplug him."
"And I would say again, what is one woman without friends against the entire company?"
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Lucrecia was literally gross. She chose everything over her baby's life.
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oh.. this is a beautiful picture.. even Hojo looks good there, mwahahaha!
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"On you knees, professor." :} "Yes. Yes. Definitely looking good there."
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