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A lil' gift forHope this is what you wished for, and I hope it makes you happy
Ashley preg. by xX-DorianGray-Xx
Kaidan by Runa
Bedroom by MindForcet
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In my headcanon some redskrit was left on Virmire and both survived.
And if Shep is in a nother Roamnce Kaidan and Ash made it out
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i believe Kaiden would be back as cerberus agent or in reaper control...
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This would be another great idea
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I don't ship this but you did a great job! I like this.
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Aww... how sweet!!! Reminds me of a Willenko fanfic I'm currently working on...
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I need to read this one
And thank you so much
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Oooh is it a boy or a girl? When is it due? Have they picked a name?! 
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Both don't want to know the gender
They want a surpise
Thank you:huggl:
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OHHH!!! This is really interesting!!!. And it gives me a really good idea to make three more ME scenes
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....oh yeah... and I wanna se them
Thank you
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Awww, those two would make a great couple!
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Thank you
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THEY WOULD! T_T <3
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Awesome!!! Wonderful moment you captured here !!! 
Very romantic!!! Now I wonder how the little Willenko would look like...?!?
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I bet with the best of the mother and daddy... <-- Laaaame answer
Thank you soooo much, my friend
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OH MY GOD! Kaiden and Ash?! I LOVE YOU FOREVER!!! And she's Prego!
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Such a wonderful comment, and this by you:squee
This makes me soooo happy
All thanx to xX-DorianGray-Xx, cause he gave me that Model
I'm so happy you like it... a beautiful girl loves me 
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Yeah
A lil' Willenko.
Thank you my friend
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Thak you so much... now you know why I choose this option in your poll
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ASDFGHJKLASDFGHJKLSDFG!!!!!
MORE! I', grinning like a fucking dork rn.
It's wonderful! I really love how romantic it looks. Their expressions. And also the title!
His clothes match hers very well! And you created that artwork so fast!
I definiteyl want another one! 8D
And I haven't forgotten about your Jane-Ash-Clone!Jane sandwich, don't you worry.
(I entertain the idea of installing an editing program on my laptop...
But the colors are so off. I'm risking a shitty outcome)
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This is all I wanted
Hihi
Great that it hit your nerves
And no rushing with any arts
But I bet you can make great artworks on the laptop, too
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I really do!
My buddies totes wanted to see what exicte me so much and I told them my best friends were 3D artists (male and female) and then I showed them a little and then I explained Asari and Turians and Drells... 8D
Ah, I dunno. The colors. Meh. And the low resolution. I'm not sure if this is a good idea.
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This is great to hear
Great that the buddies want to know that, and I hope they enjoyed the stories about Asari and the other species
And I hope they liked yours and my works
With the arts: Try it 
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Wow, that is certainly rare.
Interesting, but I can hardly see it happening
Someone write a reasonable fanfic?
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Before they decided to scrapt the "both survive Virmire in the second playthrough" option, those two were setup canon like Tali and Garrus ind ME3.
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Even if they would both survive it, I still kinda do not see it work. Ashley and Vega I can see, but Kaidan and Ashley? I mean, what do they have in common, besides being on the Normandy? I don't know, this ship I do not see.
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I can see them as a couple way easier than Tali and Garrus.
I cannot see Vega x Ashley. He's way too dumb for her. She got brains. Kaidan got brains. One thing in common already. Also, when Ash and her sister are phoning, they kinda mock her and tell her they think Kaidan's cute. She reacts like she thinkgs the same, but doesn't want to fraternize.
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Vega is simpler, but I wouldn't call him dumb. Only points for brains for Ashley is her poetry. On the other hand she's heavly religious and bigoted. She's a grunt, that waits for her commander to point her to shoot things. Kaidan has completly different character, background. Just because Ashley finds him physically attractive, doesn't mean it would lead to anything.
I am a bit to tired to delve into other things, but each of us has it's own perspective and feelings, so how about agree to disagree on the issue?
Pairing seems for me unlikely, but I won't bash anyone for supporting this ship
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Good to see that being religious is the same as not having brains to you. And her "bigotry" is actually (1) ignorance (not hatred or fear) of aliens because she's never been around them [which she gets over by ME1] and (2) her suspicions that they will let the Alliance down if it's in their interest (She's right). She actually has the most realistic analysis of the politics of the ME universe pre-Reaper invasion, people just don't like it.
Ashley's also smart enough to have succeeded in the military even before Bioware introduced the Messiah, err I mean Shepard, into her story...has significant technical/engineering training (since she held the rank of gunnery chief and uses an omni-tool) and was already an NCO at a young age in ME1 (just because she doesn't hold a commissioned officer's rank doesn't mean she's "just a grunt" [not that being a grunt means you're inherently stupid, either]).
TLDR: Ashley most definitely is smart. She may not be an intellectual, but that's something else entirely.
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Her imo heavy religiosity with those "how can you not believe?". If she just said that she believes, or even better didn't say anything, cause it doesn't matter, it would be different. But if someone in 22nd century still is so insistent on pointing that he is religious, then yeah, does not bode well for the intelligence. And I'm sorry if facts bug you, there is clear corelation between knowledge and education and lack of belief. And wealth to be honest too. Simply, if you'r poor, not very educated, probably living in not very nice conditions, you need the supernatural care of a deity.
1. I am not so sure about it, but have it your way.
2. Yeah, that's one way of looking at it. The other one is because she is the way she is, and on the other side there are similar people nothing will work. Because if you are cynical and think only about how it will not work, and you will get screw over, and the other side thinks the same, then yeah, nothing will work.
Ashley doesn't use Omni-tool in ME1, where it really matters, later everyone uses it as a means of communication. Her only technical expertise is maintenance of weapons, I'm pretty certain they teach that anyone.
In general, yes, her mental capabilities are not below average, but her attachment to preconcieved notions, that she just can't let go, for me disqualify her as labeling her as smart. Courageous, persistent, stubborn, her willingness to sacrifice all make her good soldier, but that is it for me.
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Mentioning once that she believes in God is hyper-religious? Lol. And your pseudo-intellectual attempts to claim that religious people are inherently stupider/less intelligent than non-religious people? Maybe you should also recognize that studies on that have demonstrated a difference in results from largely Westernized countries and, say, the less-developed former Warsaw Pact countries? Seriously, you complain on one hand about Ashley being a bigot, and then you throw out "religious people are dumb"?
1. Yeah, it's pretty clear in game. She states she's not comfortable around aliens because she's never been around them (which is ignorant but understandable). She also states she's not comfortable having people like Wrex (a bounty hunter from a notoriously violent species that is in the process of wiping itself out [!]) and Garrus (who before being rewritten as Shepard's sidekick is just a member of the most militaristic race in the galaxy which also, by the way, tried to stomp the humans within recent memory.
Over the course of the game she becomes closer to Tali (in one of the elevator conversations, Ashley states she hopes Tali's efforts prove to the Council that the Quarians should be treated better), she volunteers to work with the Salarians on Virmire, she is the one that tells Shepard s/he should comfort Liara after Noveria, etc. THE ENTIRE POINT OF HER CHARACTER ARC IS THAT SHE GROWS AS A PERSON. It's not even subtle.
2. Huh? Ashley is perfectly fine with trying to make it work - her point is that the Alliance shouldn't risk its own security/well-being doing whatever the Council says. I.e. the Alliance needs to be able to take care of itself if the Council doesn't step up. Note: The Council does exactly what Ashley is afraid they will do in each Mass Effect game (they only help you in ME1 late in the game, they never offer tangible assistance in ME2 to the Alliance and you're required to go help them out before they do their part in 3). Ashley's point is NOT that that sort of behavior means cooperation is pointless, it's that the Alliance shouldn't expect the Council will support them simply because Alliance wants them to.
Your last point (about Ashley being attached to preconceived notions) is sort of the epitome of the ironic nature of people that complain about how "close-minded" or "bigoted" Ashley is. In your own posts, you've made it clear you consider religious people to be by definition less intelligent than people who do not have religious beliefs. You also make it clear you have little respect for the technical expertise and intelligence required for her position/promotions and even make facts up to support your argument (hint: not everyone uses an omni-tool in ME3). Who's the close-minded one again?
Let's take it a step further and look at Ashley's growth as a character, shall we?
Her entire character arc in ME1 is about her experiencing the galaxy for the first time and opening her eyes. Given 'neutral' responses on political dialogues, she naturally (i.e. as part of her own character growth) becomes more accepting of other species and grows as a character. If you encourage her to be open-minded instead of just letting her arc take its own path, she can actually be the one at the end of the game suggesting you let human soldiers die so the Council lives. She's quite literally a depiction of someone who is NOT close-minded, because her entire story is about her changing and growing as a person. How do you reconcile your claim that she is "attached to preconceived notions" to the actual games where she's very clearly completely different w/regards to her attitudes towards non-humans by ME1, let alone ME3?
The sad thing is that the first game came out over 6 years ago and people STILL get this wrong.
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You clearly haven't done your research on religion versus education level (or IQ test results or whatever it is that you've been looking at). For one, you've certainly not controlled for other factors (geography, socioeconomic status, historical factors, etc.). As I mentioned (and you ignored) in my previous post, studies have also shown a clear divide in the relationship between religious belief and education levels based on whether a person is in the Western democracies (i.e. roughly equivalent to Cold War Era NATO) versus the former members of the Warsaw Pact, as well as other regions in the world. You've simply gravitated to the studies that support your preconceived notion of what religious people are and now cling to them like a man clings to the mast of a sinking ship.
As to your comments about religion within Mass Effect, I don't even know where to begin. Ashley says nothing that would allow you to conclude she believes in an Abrahamic God (she's specifically depicted as being ambiguously deist). You also continue to grossly overstate how much Ashley "pushes" religion. She mentions her belief in that conversation and asks for your opinion. If you tell her you don't want to talk about it, she doesn't talk about it. OH WOW WHAT A ZEALOT. Your other examples are strange, too, since Thane repeatedly discusses his religion, and you somehow completely missed an entire species of religious aliens (the Asari). Can I expect to see you on Liara fan art pages talking about how stupid she is because she refers to the Goddess on multiple occasions?
Also, I'm harping on this not because I'm religious (I'm an agnostic), but because this kind of heavy-handed "religious people are naturally stupid hurr durr" nonsense is the kind of empty intellectual chauvinism that gives non-religious people a bad name, particularly when it's based on an incomplete understanding of scientific studies.
As for "our headcanons" - no, I'm specifically referencing multiple paths. You, apparently, ignored or didn't view the majority of dialogue paths, as well as her later comments in ME2 and ME3 and then continue to refuse to accept that they even exist or have any weight because otherwise your argument that Ashley is some kind of static character falls apart. I've even ignored her conversations in ME 2 (where she's happy to see Garrus but unhappy he's working with Cerberus...i.e. him being non-human is not an issue) or ME3. Your comments about the Council also clearly demonstrate you don't understand the point I (or Ashley) are making. Ashley is not saying the Council would be WRONG to act in its own interests instead of supporting humanity, she's simply stating she believes that's what they'll do. Obviously, she (and the player) want the Council to constantly back Shepard up, but she doesn't EXPECT that will happen; at least not all the time. That's an entirely rational viewpoint, and she's proven correct. You seem to think she's some kind of paranoid lunatic who thinks the Council is evil, which isn't what she says at all. She simply thinks that each government is likely to act in its own self-interest, so the Alliance shouldn't become too reliant on the Council. How is that not a reasonable stance?
As for your last paragraph, I don't believe I ever said she wasn't stubborn and you claimed that you couldn't think of her as intelligent because she was bigoted and close minded and always stuck to her preconceived notions. Even in this paragraph you continue to spew the tired old arguments people give about her (and Kaidan in ME3). Neither of them "sticks" to a preconceived notion; they question Shepard on Mars (because Bioware apparently decided it would be a great plot to have in ME3 instead of resolving it in ME2, where it should have been). Assuming the player doesn't have Shepard act like an asshole, A/K both demonstrate their faith in Shepard on the Citadel. What did you expect when Shepard dies and then mysteriously reappears working for a terrorist group that spent all of ME1 murdering civilians and innocent people, even an Alliance rear admiral? Players have this bizaare view that every character somehow owes it to them/Shepard to never question or disagree with her/him when both A/K are COMPLETELY right to not want to be involved with Cerberus. Since you apparently missed it, Miranda wanted to install a personality chip to control you AND Cerberus cloned Shepard AND Cerberus was a racist terrorist group in ME1 (strange that Ashley, the close-minded bigot, hates them throughout the series) AND Cerberus spends all of ME3 undermining the war effort. Why the hell should Ashley or Kaidan not at least question Shepard about the group s/he spent several months working for?
All that aside, like I said before, the irony is that you came into this post/debate without any real intent of actually discussing anything, and that's extremely ironic given the arguments you're making. I'd suggest actually trying out the different dialogue paths or at least watching some gameplay video to supplement your own experiences before you try to claim you understand a character or fictional universe.
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This is my last comment, as it seems to turn into essay on religion fight.
Yes she is highly religious if you put it in perspective! This is not early XXI-century america with GOD HATES FAGS sings etc. This is a galaxy filled with multiple species. This alone destroys all abrahamic religions, and we can assume she is a believer in one of these, as she refers to diety as God, and speaks of heaven. But the highly party is her agressive "how can you not believe?!", which indicates that you are blind, spiritally-absent being.
The good way to show a religious person is Thane in ME2. No pushing with dogmas in your face, addmitance that this is his personal belief, which only minorty practices, and if you don't want to talk about, you won't hear a thing of if from him. But just because Ashley says God instead of Kalahira, people go ballistic with it, cause it's personal!
Garrus could be taken into account, be he rather seems as functioning agnostic/atheist, who would like some supernatural support to pull through the war.
I live in Poland, so I know the 'religiosity' okay? Recent poll: 95% catholics, 81 believe in God, 48% in Jesus existence and ressurection, around 35% in heaven and hell. They are culturally religious, believing in institution of Chruch, as a moral compass (which it is not), with it's postion strenghed thanks to communism, as Chruch opposed it. But if you look at scientist, the numbers are similar to western ones. And of course there is Czech Republic, who long time ago got screwed thanks to religion a few times, and now is one of the most secular societies in the world. Also, Eastern Europe countries are poorer than Western.
The fact to the matter is, the more educated and economiaclly secure you are, the less likely you are to have religious belief. And yes, if you are poor, uneducated, and live in a hell-hole in Sahel for example, then your religious belief are probably the only thing that gives you hope, but that doesn't make you smarter, or makes them true.
Modern science reduced a defendable supernatural force to deism. No theism is defendable, unless you believe God is evil or incompetent.
About being bigotted this was mostly about her in ME1, as it is about romance between Kaidan and Ashley, and they both interact with each other only in ME1. I said this romance is imo improbable, but a good fanfic would change my mind probably.
The problem is, we all have our playthroughs. Different teammates, different choices. Your Ashley is probably different than mine. I never had her and Tali in my team, never did she defended the council or stood up for their lifes, but she bitched about aliens. We are arguing over our own headcannons, which clearly does not work.
The whole Council plot is clearly bad writing favouring drama over realism, which makes saving Council a dramatic decision, not a no-brainer obvious one. The whole plot would look different if only they had cameras. Look soldier TODAY. But no. Based on this, the Council makes rational decisions. Based on our heavly skewerd point of view being Shepard, they are morons.
Okay, not EVERYONE, because they do not have a scene with it, but a lot characters use omni-tool, even Wrex, who is not highly trained in technology uses it to communicate, present intel etc.
She is not stubborn and stucks to preconcieved notions? Yes, she does grow, but her character not. And the best to portrait it is one word: CERBERUS. For two games until killing Kai-Leng and destroying Cronos Station she brings up Shep and Cerberus almost all the time. So yes, she does grow, but the pile of evidence required for her to change her mind must be huge.
Because she is stubborn. Sometimes it works well for her (her dedication to Alliance military in spite of the odds), sometimes it doesn't. Simple.
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Glad you like it
Yeah.. it's hard to see that.. only in my headcanon... there was a Normandy redskirt on Vimire who covered the bomb
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Yeah well, the problem with the storytellers is, that the often abandon the 'realism' part for the sake of dramatic plot twists!
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Your word cannot be more true
This is sooo right.
Sometimes the abandon realism not only for dramatic. SOmetimes the do it for... wtf.
Best example the scene on Haetrom, where a ston block your way and you need t fight Geth and find two bombs
...well... this piece of wal was not thaaaaaat high, that you couldn't kump over it
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