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Every time you skip an "S" in "AKS-74U", a kitten dies. The "S" means "folding", and skipping it pretty much means the Soviet AK has a solid stock. After the fall of the Soviet Union, the AK-74M replaced FOUR AK-74 variants in service, as it has a folding stock and an optic mount, so it doesn't have separate "S" or "N" variants.And the AKSU is a shortened assault rifle, a carbine or a personal defense weapon (PDW) if you wish.
NOT A SUB-MACHINE GUN. IN YOUR FACE, CALL OF DUTY.
Speaking of Call of Duty, here's a Black Ops interpretation of an AKSU - note the forend stretched to the dimensions of the full-scale AK. Also, here's Treyarch's idea on how the PBS-4 is mounted without actually detaching the muzzle brake-compensator.
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A carbine is still not a submachine gun. A really short assault rifle (or a carbine) issued to specialists (tank crews, for instance) can be called a "PDW", as they are not assaulting anyone with their "assault rifles". They are just not supposed to be on the frontline and they still need compact weapons to defend themselves if things get ugly.
About the absence of the stock in Blops... That sort of makes a pinch of sense, but it's more likely that Treyarch just left COD4's designation untouched. Still, they put the "Commando" in the assault rifle category but not "AK-74u".
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a PDW? like the MP5K-PDW thingy?
I say my theory makes more then a pinch of sense, it has no stock, so why have the "S" in the name?, and apparently theΒ COD4 AK74u is based on an airsoft gun (which would explain why that ones so goddamn ugly)
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Yeah, sort of like the MP5K PDW. It's smaller than a rifle but has a stock and more firepower than a pistol.
The CoD guns are almost never modelled after real weapons. The MW2 M4A1 is definitely airsoft, for instance. It must be much easier to model 3d weapons when you have a 3d reference in your hands. And getting an airsoft gun isn't as hard and expensive as getting a real gun, even if it's been deactivated.
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what about the MW3 M4A1?
a think treyarch might be a little more accurate in how guns work,,,maybe
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The MW3 M4A1 is way too heavily customised to tell if it's real or not. Take a look:
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Most of the guns in the first Blops are anachronistic for the game's campaign time period (AUG? WA2000?? FAMAS FELIN??? The list goes on...). They messed up the reloading of the PM (and it's iron sights), made a weird 5.45 (or 5.56) AK model, the ugly AK-like Dragunov model... Their AKS-74U is almost good if not for the absence of the stock, the odd metal magazine, and plastic handguard (and the silencer attached onto a muzzle brake, duh). Their M16 fires in three-round bursts in MP (it doesn't IRL) and, of course, the iron sights are castrated on almost every gun if another optic is mounted.
They did better in Blops2, though. AN-94 has a reciprocating barrel and angled magazine (but fictional furniture). Most of the guns have quick reload perks that involve pressing a bolt release. And THEN we have the Stinger with RPG sights used as an anti-tank weapon in SP!
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The Dragunov could have been based on a Zastava or Egyptian manufactured AK Variant, that doesn't exactly use a RPK/Dragunov "special" Receiver, and instead, use a "regular" AK (47) receiver!
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It still has a stock catch from the AKS-74 type...
They just fattened whatever AK model they actually had. If they modelled a Norinco SVD clone, or Al-Kadesih, or even something like the Romanian FPK/PSL, and called it Dragunov, well, at least it would be a real gun. But this... You had one job, Treyarch. One job.
The Dragunov is not, and it has never been, an AK or RPK descendant. Whenever the "Dragunov" has an AK or RPK receiver, it is NOT a genuine SVD and not even a clone of it.
Check the end of the page www.imfdb.org/wiki/SVD_Dragunoβ¦
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I guess one could make an M4A1 like in MW3, as those picture look legit
yeah, I know about the anachronistic weapons. the DS version had more accurate weapons. I disagree on the AK47,dragunov,and AK74u. I like them all, I don't mind the M16s burst fire, even though its...odd
how did they mess up the PM63?
and what the heck kinda gun is the badass commando supposed to be?
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The in-game Dragunov model has an AK-type receiver, with the AK-type safety. Which is ON. Let's have a look:
AK receiver (note the button at the end of the receiver) www.imfdb.org/images/c/cc/Shotβ¦
Blops SVD (note the same receiver type with a button) www.imfdb.org/images/4/4c/CODBβ¦
MW3 SVD (note the different receiver with no buttons) www.imfdb.org/images/5/5b/MW3-β¦
Blops SVD (note the AK receiver, just look at the safety) www.imfdb.org/images/5/54/Blopβ¦
MW3 SVD (note the many differences, this model is SEX) www.imfdb.org/images/3/38/MW3-β¦
PM63? Ah. No. I meant PM as in Pistolet Makarova. The Makarov.
The Commando is the gun for... commandos. The kind of guys that take fights up close and personal, and the long M16 would only slow them down.
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how did they mess up the Makarov? as I understand, it apparently has a "heel mounted reload thingy" (don't remember the actual name)
yeah, but what model of M16 is the commando? it doesn't have the handle of the M16
and the fourth image you showed me of the dragunov is actual from blops 2
and the MW3 dragunov and AK47 look awesome (still like the BO ones more)
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The Makarov's magazine catch is in the pistol grip's heel (the ring-looking thingy at the very bottom). You push it with your non-shooting hand's thumb, away from the magazine. Like this: www.imfdb.org/images/4/4f/Cw_Mβ¦
The in-game Commando is an anachronistic flat top carbine like the Model 933. The carry handle is supposedly removed.
Blops 2 reuses Blops 1 Dragunov model, albeit retextured for no reason.
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oh yeah that, that's what I was referring to.also what game is that image from
oh its a "model 933 commando" ok then
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I just googled "makarov reloading" and this Contract Wars screenshot showed up.
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fair enough
one gun that doesn't seem to belong in black ops...the famas...it looks and fucntions comepletly differently then the MW2 version, does the black ops famas actually exist?
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The FAMAS can fire in full auto, semi-auto or three-round bursts
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When in doubt, use the Google. And familiarize yourself with the www.imfdb.org/ - this site tries to tell which variant of a weapon appears in movies and videogames. If you do, you'll become one of those guys that are able to tell the difference between an AK-47 and the modernized AKM. But if you spend there too much time, you'll notice yourself announcing aloud the weapon names in the movies and things like "safety is on, again" and "he fired the six-shot revolver nine times without reloading, lol".
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i did use it, and i think there wrong. they say thee famas in blackops was made in 2001!!!
and yes, i can tell the deifferent between an ak47 and ak47-m
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The "Valorise" FAMAS model is very modern, developed in 90s-00s, the 60s tech did not have any of this.
And yet you call it "AK47-M". Nobody ever called the AKM like this. Even the AK-47 is actually simply called "AK" (but who cares?). The AK was adopted in 1949, not 1947, making the "AK-47" name incorrect; only a prototype was called like that.
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yeah,but EVERYONE calls it the AK47, they sometimes us AK,but thats just a general term
and AK47-M is wrong?
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The AK-47 is wrong in the first place, therefore AK-47M is also wrong. The correct names would be simply AK and AKM.
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how is ak47-M wrong? they use similar names for some of there other guns, like i know there a DP-28M
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"They" never called anything (but a prototype) an "AK-47". It was adopted as simply "AK". "Avtomat Kalashnikova obraztsa 1949 goda", if you wish. The year index only appeared officially since the AK-74.
M means "modernized" or "improved", usually.
PKM is an improved PK.
SVD-M is an improved SVD.
PMM is an improved PM.
And AKM is an improved AK.
It was never called "AK-47", therefore its improved variant was never called "AK-47M".
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The Soviets are inconsistent in whether they use a year in a designation or not. As Lermontov wrote "You can't understand Russia with your mind <...> You can only believe in it".
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I've just replayed Blops 2 campaign (it has customizing options in SP). Their "AK-74u" model actually has a stock catch and a round button to fold it, but the stock itself is mysteriously gone. And guess what? Their "AK-47" model's receiver is completely the same! It also has this catch and a button, except that the stock is wooden and does not have anything to do with the stock catch (cannot be held in place while folded), and it has a sling ring that would interfere with the folding stock anyway.
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I didn't see any of that
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These are small details, and to see them you have to LOOK for them. I'll probably upload a screenshot or two.
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please do. I'd like to see what you mean
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Here, I'll probably upload the original screenshot to IMFDB later.
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AKMN and ...
What was the fourth AK it replaced?
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The AK74M replaced AK74, AKS74, AK74N and AKS74N in 90's. The ones with "S" had a folding stock, the ones with "N" had an optic (night scope) mount. The AK74M has both.
The AKM was replaced by the AK74 itself in 74.
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Ohhhhh. AKS-74N
I thought you would say AKMSN, I was turned around which AK we were talking about.
Also there was two side mounted AKMs.
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Yes, the AKM also had S, N, and SN variants.
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Nvm, just wiki'd it. The number of AKM variants is just crazy. The addition of tritium night iron sights is an entirely different weapon! Pizdets. Go and try to pronounce AKMSNP. The AK-103 is a 7.62 folding assault rifle with a scope bracket. Paint the irons with tritium, and you're set.
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What separates an AKMN with an AK-103 stock from an AK-103?
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74-style muzzle brake. And I'm not sure if the stocks can be replaced easily. AKS-74, AK-74M, and 100 series' stocks fold to the left, and their receivers have the stock catches, which the original receivers cannot have.
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I have seen AKs in the US that are not AKM-103s but have scope mounts. Where exactly is the stock catch?
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Left side of the receiver, between the handguard and the dent above the magazine. The AK-74M (or 103) stock is solid and has a button that presses the catch to unfold the stock. The older folding stock is skeletal with no buttons, and you are supposed to press the catch itself.
At the other end of the receiver there is a round button. It's somewhat hard to press; I used to slap the button onto my knee to fold the damn stock. On the right side it looks like half-rectangle-half-circle, sort of like a button magazine catch on most pistols.
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