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The tree of life and world - Iggdrasil, Loki - the master of magic in white dress, Laufey - the king of frost giants, father of Loki, and Thor - god of thunder in red chariot. This is surrealistic art has a hidden meaning, I hope you'll understand. Inspired by Dali and Beksinski.(It's about our OTP ^^)
Art by my sister.
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Okay, you are just killin' me with these pics! Some serious talent going on here.
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Not sure if it was intentional, but I can definitely see four-elements symbolism here.
Thor with his flaming chariot to represent fire.
Loki in his flowing white dress and the dust kicking up around him to represent wind/air.
Laufey standing in the sea to represent water.
Iggdrasil in the background to represent earth/nature.
Very beautifully done, but then again, so is all of your sister's work.
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Oh, wow. You're guessing it right! The painting definitely has these symbols!
Thanks for the wonderful feedback <3
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You're very welcome.
I'm a symbolism whore. I notice these things.
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I know it's been a while, but I've noticed something else. There are two cycles, both starting from Loki.
There's a cycle of harmony:
Wind moves the water.
Water nourishes the earth.
Earth fuels the fire.
In the other direction, it's a cycle of destruction:
Wind blows out the fire.
Fire burns the earth.
Earth pollutes the water.
Just felt like pointing that out.
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cool working on figuring out that hidden meaning
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I don't think it really so. It's true that many surrealistic works were inspired by Dali's, cause he is father of this style. Still, my sister didn't use his original elements, like soft clocks, furniture bodies and etc.
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I was thinking the same thing! Very Dali-esque... which I now realize makes sense because I literally just read the description which states that this was indeed inspired by Dali.
This actually made me think of Frost's "Fire and Ice" because of the fiery manes of the horses of Thor and frost giant Laufey... and also the fact that, according to Norse mythology, Loki kind of plays a major role in Ragnarok, which is very much like the end of the world.
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No wonder that many surrealistic works were inspired by Dali. His works alway thrilled us since the childhood. Although, in my sister's work I don't see any thing except long shadows that would remind me of Salvador's paintings.
Thor in this picture represents thunder, storms and lightning, and of course the lightning burns. The giant Laufey stands in the sea... and that would remind of the saying "between the devil and the deep blue sea" in which situation Loki is.
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Though Dali is known for certain objects or motifs, a work doesn't need to have those things specifically in order to qualify as Dali-esque. Dali has a certain style of painting that's pretty distinctive... just like Van Gogh or Picasso. That said, though this may not have Dali-esque objects, it still looks Dali-esque because of the smoothness of the paint, coupled with the surrealist atmosphere.
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This work is more likely related to Marvel Cinematic Universe rather than Norse mythology, so noting about goats was kind of unnecessary. I actually told my sister to draw goats, but she didn't wanted to, so... whatever the artist wants.
But if you all make a connection between MCU and Norse myth, let's do it. You might give an impression that you've read stuff about Norse mythology, but it seems that you didn't read well, just like many of the rest. Loki is known as a MOTHER, I'll explain why: he is a creature that has two genders between which he can shift under the disguise to trick the gods (Perhaps the entire race of jotnar were two gendered). And it's not only because of Sleipnir, the eight legged horse whom he gave a birth, but also, he was impregnated by eating a heart of an embodiment of greed and bore the witch, since then his name is "Mother of witches". In Prose Edda it is stated by Odin that Loki lived under the Earth for eight winters and bore children like a maid. And Also, some scholars suppose that the three monsters: Fenrir, Jormungand and Hel were also born by him, not by Angriboda, as she might has been one of his disguised forms, just like the giantesses Hyrokin or Thokk. So I think Loki being a 'damsel' is a legit idea.
When we combining it all with MCU... marvel didn't think up the rest. So we can pick the facts from Loki the agent of Asgard where he is a shapeshifter two gendered beauty too, just like in Norse myth.
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Sorry, that second part of comment about fire and ice was actually just a general response to the picture, not a direct response to you. I probably should've written a separate comment XP
I agree with you, I'm not really sure why Loki looks like a damsel. My thoughts: white is typically symbolic of purity/innocence, but I'm not sure how that would figure into this, if at all. And I noted how he seemed to be drawn toward/entranced by Laufey... which may or may not be significant. Or I might be reading too much into that.
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Read this develv.deviantart.com/journal/… so you can be sure why.
Concerning Loki's attire in this painting, yes, in general white color symbolizes innocence, more likely in Europe, but in Asia people wear white on funeral. I'm not sure what the white meant for vikings, but since MCU is quite different thing, where asgardians wear pretty 'japanese' kimono's and achitect their buildings into 'zen' style, so that's why we can speculate. Why yes, significant, Laufey is dead killed. Loki turns towards him, because he regrets what he's done that's why his clothes are white because he is clean from pride, from hate and ambitions, innocent like a child, spotless.
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Oh, the Asian association with white did occur to me, but I figured that that probably wasn't relevant since this is about figures in NORSE mythology. I suppose I shouldn't have been so quick to dismiss it. Interesting. Thanks for clearing things up about what's going on with Laufey and Loki.
Though I'm still not quite sure how Thor ties into this. You said Thor represents lightning, which burns... the fact that you chose the word "burn" as opposed to something like "heats" or "illuminates" seems to suggest that Thor is harmful because one is usually hurt by a burn. Am I on the right track with this? Sorry, I'm curious about how Thor figures into Loki regretting his albeit liberating act of patricide.
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Funny enough the artwork is not an illustration NORSE myth as you can see. It's Marvel Cinematic Universe where in a movie, I repeat, the Asian themes were used and it was the reason to note that.
Thor is perhaps desperate to stop Loki from turning to Laufey, he is 'on fire' to protect him.
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My sister did NOT depict a straightright illustration on MCU, it was just way the artist sees them. Don't mess the things. I have no idea how to get you people. Almost ALL Loki's fans love to protect him "poor Loki" misunderstood Loki" that's what I always hear and when I'm telling the opposite "don't pity him, he deserves the pain cause he is evil" but nobody agrees and everyone claims 'no Loki is INNOCENT while Odin is an asshole, Thor is unfair fucker and how could he hurt his little poor brother' people say I'm merciless because I made Odin slap Loki for he deserves that slap more than from some mortal bitch. While then my sister depicts Loki in white to symbolize he is 'innocent' all we get "Loki is the evil guy" and "Loki being a symbol of purity/innocence is totally nonsensical" in response. How contradicting are you it's tiring.
In addition, white attire on Loki MAY symbolize purity/innocence, BUT it MIGHT be deception. That is WHY Loki is a mischief, because he tricks everyone. In the beginning of Thor film, Loki also seemed 'innocent'.
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Ah, I sort of feel your pain. While I tend to be one of those fans that sympathizes with Loki, I ultimately understand Loki as the complex, contradictory character that he is. Certainly, find out that your father is not actually your father and realizing that you're actually a "monster" is quite traumatic, and I can sympathize with Loki's pain. However, his feelings of betrayal, no matter how warranted they are, don't excuse his violent/murderous actions in the aftermath. Though I often may feel inclined to feel sorry for Loki because of his tragic story, I'm well aware and fully acknowledge that his "lashing out" wasn't the right thing to do. Loki's not innocent, but he's not evil either. He has moments of both, and that's what makes him such a great "villain"--the fact that he's not pure evil is what makes him intriguing.
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That's why he can be drawn as innocent and as evil. In some concept he is evil, in some innocent. Just like in this picture if he wears white that usually represents purity, it does not necessarily mean it's true, cause it can be deceptive as the great shadow that extends from his back and shows that he has 'sins' behind. Stones and rocks around him symbolize everybody, who was deaf and blind to his pain.
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True, Loki being associated with purity/innocence seems contradictory. Yet maybe it's referring to before he learned of his true origins and fell through space. Pre-betrayed Loki could arguably be seen as "innocent" compared to after he went "mad"? And speaking of "feminine" and "damsels", maybe it's a comment on Loki's vulnerability. His world as he knew it, has crumbled. Now that he knows the truth, he essentially faced with an identity crisis: there's his Asgardian family (as represented by Thor) who has cared for him his entire life on one side and his blood family (Laufey). Perhaps Loki's being drawn toward Laufey indicates a yearning for the true parent that he realized he never had the privilege to bond with. But I don't know. This is all speculation. An explanation would be greatly appreciated.
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My sister drew this painting in few hours, just because she was inspired. She didn't spent weeks and months to develop some deeply special meanings. So don't expect for something out of ordinary, the important point of the hidden meaning is our OTP.
The white dress is refereed to my painting eovinmg.deviantart.com/art/Wai… as my sister liked that idea.
If you want me to explain what it means, I will. As I stated before, Loki is a two gendered being, but in my notion he has two characters rather than two genders, so inside him there is a man and a woman.
In my opinion women were ALWAYS the weaker gender no matter what, it's not that they weak by themselves, but weaker compared to men, lesser in number and quality. That's why men are always leaders and the sexism is not really the reason(I don't even have to explain). But it doesn't deny our equal rights.
Everyone of us has feminine part inside, even the manliest men. And that is explained as the desire to be passive, to prefer home comfort, having children and presence of the badder side is a whimsicalness, deceptiveness, bitchiness and etc. when men act like this they're being asked 'why you behave like a woman' while it does not mean to offend women. But for me, real woman is not a symbol of weakness, just as men are NOT symbol of violence, for me the woman is a symbol of mother or sister or daughter, kind, soft, gentle and loving. But it's an ideal, like ideal man for me is a strong-willed protector, merciful and righteous.
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This is OUR point and you don't have to agree with it. Cause with OUR opinion we, develv explain OUR art, not yours. You can draw motivational art that shows 'women's strength' and I won't say things like "I disagree". Feel free okay? If you want to think women are stronger than men - do as you like. I never insisted my opinion and I never will. So keep calm and let's just not start all these useless disputes.
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Yes, as fun as it is to analyse, it'd be nice to know the actual intentions of the artist.
I agree with you that such an interpretation is offensive, especially in this era. I don't support such a view either. But historically/traditionally speaking, those sorts of traits were commonly associated with women. And objectively speaking, "damsels in distress" is a common theme.
Putting the whole femininity aspect aide for a moment, the garment Loki's wearing makes him look almost ghost-like because the fabric looks sheer and airy.
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I don't see anything offensive about women being weak as men being violent. It's fair. Both bad sides are in our nature despite the gender. Weakness is not when you can't protect yourself, but it's when you can't stand your pride, your honor and dignity, when you break your promises, when you can't say "I't my fault", "I'm sorry" or "I love you". When you can't protect the others and prefer to stay aside in silence, caring for only own comfort. Women choose to stay at home and live an imperturbed life, most of them don't go on battlefields or govern the country. That's why I think, weakness refers to women and there's nothing offensive, at least for me when I'm being a woman too.
Well, although Loki has feminine side; he has weakness because he could not protect his home but he betrayed his family's trust, he craves for comfort and love and then hates those who didn't give it to him and causes troubles, so in this sense he makes a so called 'bad girl', while Frigga, a mother Queen to whom Loki used to tend was an example of a real woman, who showed some manly side when protecting the Asgard.
After all these disputes, my sister does not really meant "Loki wears white= white is weakness= weakness is for women= Loki being a woman = woman being weak = it's disrespectful". I can figure this accordingly for those who are hard to understand "Loki wears white = white is cleanliness from smth. = Loki is clean from all the dark spots: ambitions, hurt pride and hate and aims for love and forgiveness". Loki looks for Laufey, because his father is a significant figure in his history, the one who created him, the root of his spring of hate. Someone who made him suffer, someone who made him like this, a monster. And it's thrilling when Loki lets all go and accepts his fate as it is. The only thing that remains to do is to love.
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I'm not saying it's a bad thing to be weak or that the idea of weakness itself is offensive. Making the generalization that all women are weak is the problem because not all women are weak. I'm not a hardcore feminist so I'm not going to go into detail.
Nevermind all the feminism drama. That's all just a huge misunderstanding that spiraled out of control XP
I like your neutral explanation of white and how white symbolizes purity/being clean.
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Neither I generalize men as strongest. Everything is counting in comparison. If I say women are weaker than men, it doesn't means 'women are weakest'. You know predator animals are stronger than humans but it doesn't mean 'men are losers'. I can list comparison examples endlessly. I just sometimes surprise why these feminist get offended by the slightest criticism in address of female gender? It's just ridiculous.
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All I can fathom to say is people tend not to like being looked down upon.
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