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Description Okay, so here's the deal. I'm going to preach a little bit here so if you're easily offended by critiques or just don't feel like reading advice , I suggest you hit the back button. I'm speaking mostly to all those folks that PM or e-mail me wanting advice on their artwork and how to break into comics so, if that's not you, you don't need to read on or do if you just feel like getting a little insight on the world of comics.

That being said, I'm going to address something that a lot of comic book artist hopefuls dread-BACKGROUNDS!!!!!! Yes I know, you hate drawing them and would rather be drawing your favorite superhero or anime/manga character. Can't blame you, I would too but if you have any hope of illustrating professionally or just want to make kick-ass believable art in your spare time it's something you're going to have to practice at some point. Truth be told, the majority of all the Amateur comic art I see is horribly lacking in this department. I've seen some of the coolest character art but the entire peice falls apart because the artist either didn't give the background the same attention they gave the character or they left one out all together leaving Spider-man clinging to a magic invisible wall. Let's face it, backgrounds (hereafter referred to as BGs) are no fun!....or are they? I had the same problem with BGs for years and found I couldn't come up with convincing scenes to set my characters in. I couldn't come up with an image in my head and translate it down onto paper or I would get to frustrated and just give up. It wasn't until about 10 years ago that I saw the light. I was at a convention showing my work trying to get a gig when I came across an artist sitting in artist alley. He had a pretty good portfolio so I started flipping through. About half way in I came across a huge double page spread of the island of Manhattan. This artist had drawn the entire island from a airplane view complete with every building, visible street, harbor, and even little boats and tankers in the water. It was as if this guy had taken a helicopter ride out over the water about 1000 feet up and looked back to take a mental picture of the city to draw it. Every detail was there and the design of each building and window was addressed. Immediately I asked how the hell he was able to draw BGs so well. He replied “do you like drawing backgrounds?" "No" I replied. He smirked and said "well, I do." he went on to say the only way to learn backgrounds is to make yourself love them. Stop looking at them as a burden or something you rush through to get to the fun stuff. You have to realize that BGs are there to add life and believability to your characters. They can take a normal shot of Spider-man swinging and make him look as if he's hundreds of feet above New York or swooshing inches from the street down a canyon of buildings. In all honesty, I sometimes spend more time on the BGs than I do on the characters in the panel. It's not because I like the BGs more or dislike the characters, it's just that I like to pretend my BGs are another character unto themselves that create a setting for my cast.
So by now you're saying "that's all well and good but how do I get started?" Well, I'm glad you asked. The first thing to do is to get out there and draw!! I know, you've been told a thousand times that you need to draw from life so let's make this 1001. Get out there and sit under a tree or on a city bench and draw what you see. Pay close attention to architecture and plant life. Figure out with your pencil what makes a building look like a building, a car, or a tree. Now figure out what makes different buildings, cars, and trees look different and what makes them the same. If you do this long enough you find that you can make up buildings, cars, trees, etc up in your head without looking at a picture or reference. Secondly, study perspective like there's no tomorrow. This is the biggest thing you can do make your BGs convincing. Trust me, I know it's hard now but you'll thank me later when you're whipping out landscapes like a pro. For you beginners or even those that want to advance your knowledge I suggest the book 'Perspective for the Comic Book Artist". I own over 100 'how to' artbooks and this is the single best book I've ever bought and still use it to this day. It changed my art and a swear on it like the bible. Check out it the next time you're in a book store or get it from your local library. Heck, here's the Amazon.com address where you can order it!: [link] d_bbs_4/104-4366842-2812751?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
And believe me, it's great for all kinds of perspective, not just comic books. You'll learn 2 point, 3 point, 5 point, and curvular perspective before you know it and be well on your way. Just look at my any piece in my gallery with a cityscape to see what I mean.

So that's it guys. I hope this helped some of you a little bit and you'll take this advice and run with it. I'm a firm believer that there's no such thing as talent and anyone can accomplish their goals if they just commit and practice. All you need is the right tools. And just to drive the point home, I'm posting a plethora or BGs that I've done in the last year in various books. These are just a small handful of the huge amount I've had to do so believe me, I speak from experience. Oh yeah, and a warning. The file is a bit large so, if you click on it, you’ve been warned

Best regards,
-Mark
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Comments: 514

Ryds [2005-09-22 11:20:41 +0000 UTC]

Yeah sure that's really awesome.... I used to draw some background lately and yeah... I'm like the only one in all my animation department who likes to draw thoses, but in my opininon, don't feel menaced or anything, but I think you're putting too much details on your pics. My teacher is always saying to draw the essential (I'm talking of all the structure like a brick wall, You have to suggest the reader the wall is made of brick, not entirely draw each one of them) Yeah I saw that even if you do this, your brackgrounds are way better from mine, but it can help you make you character breath, We sould be able to clearly see all his body without color and... in the end, it should save you some time. Take it or not, I know I'm just 18 years old, but that's what I believe in and that's what I've been told by some professionnal artists.

And by the.... your background are way too awesome, I don't hink I will be albe to reach that level in a few year. I think your advice on drawing waht you see is « really good, should start to do it tomorrow... if I got time (yeah school)

Thanks

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lambi [2005-09-22 11:03:46 +0000 UTC]

Youve certanintly proved your point with this image.

Im making a comic now, for a university project, and keeping the backgrounds toa minimum, flat geometric shaped objects indoors, stuff like that. but I do have a couplefull backgrounds, mostly to set the scene and stuff like that. Nothing like these though. Glorius.

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erdbeertod [2005-09-22 10:59:46 +0000 UTC]

uh, wow, thank you for these words! I belong to those who hated backgrounds. I want to draw them, but I suck. maybe you are right, paying to less attention makes it suck and so it feels like a hard burden.

thank you. now I have the feeling of wanting to try!

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LetMeHearYouWhisper [2005-09-22 10:59:08 +0000 UTC]

Wow. That's wonderful. oo;

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LazyMuFFin [2005-09-22 10:16:06 +0000 UTC]

The details.. it hurts.

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crouching-kitty [2005-09-22 10:05:50 +0000 UTC]

Dude... I wanna meet that guy D:

Great job with the BGs too, my favs the train scene ;D

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morganagod In reply to ??? [2005-09-22 09:56:47 +0000 UTC]

I've never sent you a note regarding my art and I've always known that backgrounds weren't my strength. (Just look at my gallery if you need proof of that.) But I've never ever heard of that way to approach it. To me, it's always been portrayed as something you had to do in order to do professional work whether you like it or not. Which sort of makes me shun it even more.

The story that you tell of the guy who drew manhattan is very interesting and I think very helpful. The idea of learning to like it never crossed my mind. I mean, actually learning to like it. Not as in "you'll do a hundred push-ups in the mud and learn to like it, soldier!" I'm going to try approaching it this way. So thanks.

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TDBK [2005-09-22 09:53:51 +0000 UTC]

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kreegah [2005-09-22 09:51:50 +0000 UTC]

O_o too much text in your describtion... but very nice details on the backgrounds mate

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WhiteSpeed [2005-09-22 09:47:28 +0000 UTC]

Not a comic book artist in the slightest, i would LOVE to be, but its not an option. Though i will forever have respect for those that are, because your art is AMAZING, whatever aspect of it, though BG's will now be paided more attention while im flicking through a book! Thanks for the insight!

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DiePersephone [2005-09-22 09:34:09 +0000 UTC]

wow looks like a lot of work ^^
you are a great artist

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Trinamon [2005-09-22 09:25:18 +0000 UTC]

omh... i worship you

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AM-KNIGHT [2005-09-22 09:23:30 +0000 UTC]

Thanx alot man for this comment about BGs...it's true all what U have said...and I am so greatfull for the advice of the Book...and by the way it was so much WOUNDERFULL , Great and Awsome BGs. that U have drow...

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VictorHaratani In reply to ??? [2005-09-22 09:22:16 +0000 UTC]

awesome work, everything is fuckin awesome!
i'll read your rant some other time, u seen to get an interesting point there!

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starvinartist In reply to ??? [2005-09-22 09:18:48 +0000 UTC]

I think you just saved my life. I've had such an aversion to doing backgrounds for about as long as I can remember...hell longer than that. I always wondered how the hell people did backgrounds so good and thanks to this post, I now know. You don't know how encouraging your words have been. Hopefully you'll see some of my stuff with backgrounds soon! Thank's for all your help!

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WaiLik [2005-09-22 09:09:05 +0000 UTC]

amazing...simply..georgeous....
thank you so much on your advice...I'll do or try to do more BGs. Thank you.

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twospotz [2005-09-22 09:08:11 +0000 UTC]

Gave mea few headsup as well. LOVE the way you doodled the trees in some of the pictures... Got me thinking here. Yeah, I DESPISE drawing backgrounds too, but you are so right that they do add tothe whole picture. Lack of background should be used VERY carefully. Thank you for sharing this with us, it's priceless.

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meetmadman [2005-09-22 09:07:07 +0000 UTC]

hoolllyyyysssiiiiieeeeeettthhhh ....

how long the progress is???

mmmm d u 've lot of time??? d u like to hang out w yer friends???
clubbing or something???


ck kc ck ck ck /....\

awesome

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LTrain [2005-09-22 09:00:34 +0000 UTC]

impressive, my man. even snuck donovan in there. great advice. i'm just getting into art history classes in hopes that i can gain some architectural know-how. this is just awesome, and incredibly helpful. kudos!

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noneBC [2005-09-22 08:49:46 +0000 UTC]

^_^ thanks

that's SPOT-ON the advice i've been asking for, for over a year... and this is going to help me take a big step in the right direction

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Spiner [2005-09-22 08:48:22 +0000 UTC]

solid architecture, fine perspective, ultra-details, depth. We could not ask for better backgrounds
...and nice composition!

+fav!

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BornDesigns [2005-09-22 08:44:29 +0000 UTC]

Wow, so very very nice. I wish I could see a place and keep adding till it is full like you.

When I try to draw a city, it looks like a small vilage (like 1500's small lol)

But very cool, and kinda inspiering. makes me wana try to draw a real city, or maybe a store inside with all the tables people and such as the one in the bottem row of what looks like a resturant.

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Splinter-Cell37 [2005-09-22 08:40:59 +0000 UTC]

Fascinating. Thanks for the tip.

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Xss- [2005-09-22 08:36:05 +0000 UTC]

That was very instructive, even if I'm not planing on breaking into comics or working on backgrounds! And amazings drawings, by the way!
+fav, because of the drawings, and the comment : It'll be useful for a lot of people!

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Pepius [2005-09-22 08:33:16 +0000 UTC]

Man! you also have managed to get a lot of patience to be able to make those images!

And as far as I hate doing bgs, I have to admit you are 100% right in your little speech. It's encouraging to hear from a pro that although maybe not a nice path, this is the way to go, as a comic can't be just and endless succesion of pinups.

You rock, man!

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TatsujinEdge [2005-09-22 08:31:54 +0000 UTC]

Wow excellent advice man thanks for the insight

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WretchedAngel [2005-09-22 08:23:36 +0000 UTC]

Simply great. Advice well given. It being something I've had to fall in love with myself for other reasons. Namely matte paintings that can be later used in compositing for live action. One of the best around is Ron Crabb. Did the Phionex in the water of X-Men 2. Along with a lot of other things for X-Men. Including Iceman's ice wall and Wolverine's bullet to the head wound healing it'self. I live off rough concept background and pencil lines for my work. But same applies for comics. Your pencils are inspiring.

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gWebber [2005-09-22 08:16:13 +0000 UTC]

Oh, PS.....I have that book too, it is a great read.

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gWebber [2005-09-22 08:12:04 +0000 UTC]

ummmm, wow ... hot backgrounds.

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hunchcat [2005-09-22 07:57:51 +0000 UTC]

also, i think i should attempt backgrounds too, if fail in that department and this piece is truely an inspiration so i had to thank u for putting it up

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hunchcat [2005-09-22 07:55:58 +0000 UTC]

what is that one with the crashin building?? (top left) that is just so awesome, i cant believe u attempted that, i wouldnt have even thought of drawin that. well done to u sir!!!

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Risachantag [2005-09-22 07:44:48 +0000 UTC]

"Love your backgrounds"... good advice. With my part time job as a cartoon backgrounder I'd be in a lot of trouble if I didn't!

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Lucifer-Enterprises [2005-09-22 07:27:31 +0000 UTC]

wow....long explaination....good examples too....
I agree with you...backgrounds make the scene come alive, not just the characters...i

either way...i luv your pic ...so much detail in the backgrounds

good job

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pink-sage [2005-09-22 07:12:55 +0000 UTC]

Thanks alot of the tips and explanation. I really appreciate you taking the time off your schudule and write that for us here at DA to read. I'l always looking to improve and become a better artist. There is nothing better to get tips form a great artists and find what they have do to get to their stage. Thanks alot Mr. Brooks

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spydyrmann [2005-09-22 07:06:23 +0000 UTC]

thank you for the heads up!
going to look at Amazon now.

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blckwht [2005-09-22 07:00:02 +0000 UTC]

very well said

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Zhaana [2005-09-22 06:57:47 +0000 UTC]

wow the BGs ^^, nice comment and you're right nothing is better than practice ^___^ I love more comic art each time i see your art.....

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melyanna [2005-09-22 06:57:46 +0000 UTC]

This is the first time it happens to me to coment on a comment (no pun intended, sorry) instead of on a piece of art.

Not that I dislike the artwork displayed here (it is great) but because, even if I am not into comic art, I took my time to read all your comment and I must say I agree with every single word you wrote and with the way you wrote it!

I hope this will encurage and help many artists as much as it has encouraged me in grabbing my pencil again after a long stop!

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Reza-ilyasa [2005-09-22 06:49:34 +0000 UTC]

nuff said.. fav!

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jessetoon [2005-09-22 06:40:42 +0000 UTC]

Damn, now there's some backgrounds. I've never wanted to get into comics myself, but these pics really opened my eyes to what a good bg can do. Cheers man.

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AdRoiT-Designs [2005-09-22 06:28:13 +0000 UTC]

do you reckon you could send me one of these pic so i can vector them? adroit-design@hotmail.com Would love that!

Your stuff rox!!!

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thekidKaos [2005-09-22 06:27:00 +0000 UTC]

Mark, dude, this is the most helpful advice I could ever here for comic books

True, the BG is another character.

Thanx for these amazing images, and for reccomend that book.

*goes to order the book*

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kirbydude747 [2005-09-22 06:26:01 +0000 UTC]

lookin sweet

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echostar [2005-09-22 06:22:45 +0000 UTC]

I have never Emailed or PMed ya but I appreciate the advice. Your very right, most artists (even po-dunk ones like myself) do not like drawing backgrounds, but you've given me the insight to want to try. Thank you.

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dangular22 In reply to ??? [2005-09-22 06:22:26 +0000 UTC]

those are kickass BG'S....

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squishybunz [2005-09-22 06:21:39 +0000 UTC]

ALL I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THIS IS SWEET...I DONT HAVE THE PATICENCE FOR BACKGROUNDS....

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zaratus [2005-09-22 06:18:54 +0000 UTC]

u have been one of the most patient people on earth O_o

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jaredjlee [2005-09-22 06:17:25 +0000 UTC]

I've never found backgrounds fun.
Yours look great though.

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Crittarka [2005-09-22 06:16:39 +0000 UTC]

You are amazing sir, I've always had a phobia of backrounds that I've been working on, and I'll have to probably take notes off of this. <3!!!!!!1

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Kray-BDragon [2005-09-22 06:15:14 +0000 UTC]

Holy Ballz!!! O_O

That's absolutely amazing!!! Man and I thought three point perspective was as high as anyone could go. I'm in your debt Diablo. If this book is as good as you say it is I think I may give it a try if it can help me do anything close to how good these are ^^

Thank you very much man, you're a lifesaver, I've dreaded backgrounds for quite a while.

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