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Planning =3Very basic, but... G4 started partially from one sketch like this
G2 ending sketch 2006, where was thinking in Ciro´s Kid first and then the girl ---> G4 2018. Actually Valentina was the first X3
And i always had very clear that Grisha and Dora will have kids
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DingoPatagonico In reply to ??? [2019-12-21 17:18:33 +0000 UTC]
Can happen... but would be super young xD
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paladin095 [2019-10-14 20:36:37 +0000 UTC]
Quedo pansona ow0! Ese Jose, le dije que siempre use proteccion
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DingoPatagonico In reply to thestooge2222 [2019-10-02 23:20:52 +0000 UTC]
XD when Grisha was tied XD
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thestooge2222 In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-03 01:18:43 +0000 UTC]
Meant that as a Gaston reference XD
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GrantExploit [2019-10-01 20:29:07 +0000 UTC]
Also... you knew I was gonna mention this :
(NOTE: This comment includes relatively advanced biological vocabulary, so I included links to articles on these potentially troublesome words. If you think you know them or can get the gist of what I'm saying without understanding a few, please don't click on them.)
There's just a little tiny very minor un poquito karyotypic difference between tigers and dogs... 40 chromosomes. 40. (!!!) That difference is so extreme, that with many distantly-related species you can at least get a few days or weeks of development after fertilization, but for them, the offspring will be dead at conception. Even if Grisha has 42 while Dora has 62 (the arithmetic mean between the feral species chromosomal count and that of humans), that's still an insurmountable 20-chromosome difference. If they had the same number of chromosomes (say an even human 46) and each chromosome was almost entirely homeologous in its layout, then it has a reasonable chance of working—they're both carnivorans, after all, and though their karyotypes are incredibly different, not so much the genes present on them.
However, they don't seem like hybrids, rather they are one species each. In the """simplest""" case for that to work, after fertilization, there must be some deliberately-engineered () switch that says "This DNA is too different: Throw one entire copy out!", duplicate the genetic information in one gamete to form a diploid zygote , then (if the DNA selected is that of the male) slap the immune system silly into not rejecting it pronto. For Davier (?), this would essentially equate to a last-ditch, extremely risky form of female parthenogenesis . Assuming a required extremely lucky chromosomal order and genetic makeup as literally the entire genome would be homozygous (AKA harmful recessive trait hell), another problem resides with Davier: Using that technique, he'd be female, as he'd be a rearranged copy exclusively from Dora's XX-chromosomed genome.
For Lucas, though his gender would be realistic as he'd also be a homozygous rearranged copy exclusively from Grisha's genes, there would not only be the problem of homozygousity, but of an anthro canine placenta being able to interface with an anthro feline embryo properly (which is a big if), and I'm not sure if canine mitochondrial DNA could sustain his health.
So, for Davier to be male, Dora's cellular nuclei must not only be smart enough to do that form of parthenogenesis, but incorporate a Y-chromosome from Grisha, which has a good chance of working in the unlikely chance he's viable in the first place (I mean, the Y-chromosome in placental mammals is mostly just a marker saying "MALE: Make testicles.").
For Grisha to contribute any more than a single chromosome to Davier (or Dora to contribute anything to Lucas), Dora's cellular nuclei must not only be intelligent enough to recognize that Grisha's DNA is different, but to recognize the specific genes that are homologous between the two and either take them wholesale if close enough to a canine gene, replace them with her genes if homologous and corresponding to the same alleles , or if homologous and corresponding to a canine allele not present in her... pull the extra gene magically out of a hat. Yeah...
This could be done in It's a Great Big Beautiful Tomorrow. In a lab. With weeks of preparation. And even by now (after several improvements), it won't be unobvious at all that what is happening is artificial, and because it would use external material, wouldn't involve an entirely new system of eukaryotic inheritance.
OK, then. Let's assume that genetic technology is advanced enough for them to have monospecific, bi-parental children using IVF. That means, if Dora was surprised that she was pregnant...
Is that rape? I mean, although Dora may be totally willing to get pregnant, for it to happen that way Grisha would have to either (depending on how advanced the method is), take her sleeping/incapacitated to a hospital to do it, insert it into her vagoo while she's sleeping/incapacitated, or break some packet of MagicSeed™ in a similar fashion to a male tossing away or sabotaging a condom before sex. That's one hell of a question...
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DingoPatagonico In reply to GrantExploit [2019-10-02 03:31:34 +0000 UTC]
that´s why i love the cartoon logic XD
but actually, depite the kids doesn´t looks as hybrids, they actually HAVE some of the other species in them... ;3
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GrantExploit In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-03 21:19:31 +0000 UTC]
...Aye, but with scientific hardness, you know that whatever happens could happen in real life, which makes it all the more awesome. Into the Wild Black Yonder? That could have really happened. Àli Dãn Celec could really exist. The Martian? Avatar? The Expanse? Bioshock (1)? All relatively if not totally plausible. Game of Thrones is plausible minus two elements, and Star Trek if you get past the awesomely-flavorful-but-meaningless technobabble. Braveheart is effectively a hard fantasy film. And the list goes on...
...So, in your universe, anthro dogs and tigers (if not all your species) have the same number of homeologous chromosomes, allowing easy hybridization ("easy" meaning success is best measurable in percentages rather than odds)? Although because in this first generation haploid canine chromosomes would be paired to homologous haploid feline chromosomes in a 1:1 ratio, I can't see either of them being overall more phenotypically feline or canine unless there are very specific allele dominances that bias the appearance, though that would make them highly unusual compared to most other hybrids. But I guess being unique isn't a bad thing.
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zarpaulus In reply to GrantExploit [2019-10-02 01:51:45 +0000 UTC]
Most furry universes treat them as humans with cosmetic differences. Which would mean they all have 46 chromosomes.
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GrantExploit [2019-10-01 19:47:46 +0000 UTC]
AAAAAAHH already by 2023!? She's only 19, only just permanently employed*, and didn't you say that she was accepted into some kind of "Nemesis Program*" by 2024 ?
But I like the combined surname "Stark–Klendathu"—good egalitarian touch. I did an identical thing for one of my main characters, as his society has abandoned patrilineality. Only problem is what to do in the next generation... it could quickly get out of hand. A potential solution is to abandon the use of surnames entirely , as also in the blessed Vallic and Proximal Selsian cultures.
*Though IMO any time off from her occupation is a good thing.
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DingoPatagonico In reply to GrantExploit [2019-10-02 03:29:24 +0000 UTC]
she always can take some free time by pregnacy first and then to take care of the kids with the help of her huge family, and friends X3
I like both surnaves too much to can choose one x3
and yeah, this will happendo officially before 2019 ends x3
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ultimatebrutaldoom01 In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 11:47:35 +0000 UTC]
me pregunto si unos de los hijos tiendtan un Stand
iforme sobre los Stands jojo.fandom.com/es/wiki/Stand
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DingoPatagonico In reply to ultimatebrutaldoom01 [2019-10-01 16:41:56 +0000 UTC]
quien sabe... recien los estoy planeando
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DingoPatagonico In reply to MarcinMurach [2019-10-01 10:00:59 +0000 UTC]
Because is what everybody would expect ;3
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MarcinMurach In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 17:06:21 +0000 UTC]
Grisza! Go make another one XD
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MarcinMurach In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 17:16:59 +0000 UTC]
OK.
Now wher is my camera to make some... "documentic" video X3
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DingoPatagonico In reply to MarcinMurach [2019-10-01 17:18:31 +0000 UTC]
no NAT GEO allowed XD
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MarcinMurach In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 19:20:00 +0000 UTC]
That is not for NAT GEO. That is for NAT PORN X3
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MarcinMurach In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-02 18:02:07 +0000 UTC]
And is for privet use?
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DingoPatagonico In reply to Camo15590 [2019-10-01 02:56:11 +0000 UTC]
*inserts start trek theme* The Next Generation! (actually for G6 XD)
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Hernan-Genesis [2019-10-01 02:16:30 +0000 UTC]
Pues que te digo, falta estilizarlos un poco y darles esa ternura natural característica en los niños...
Igual lo entiendo perfectamente, yo rara vez dibujo infantes y me cuesta un montón, pero con el tiempo se aprende. Igual me gusta la forma que van tomando.
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DingoPatagonico In reply to Hernan-Genesis [2019-10-01 02:22:43 +0000 UTC]
obvio que es el boceto inicial XD que de hecho es microscopico XD gracias!
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Hernan-Genesis In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 02:26:21 +0000 UTC]
Jaja, bueno, eso cambia las cosas, igual un pequeño consejo: Pupilas e iris un poco más grandes y formas del cuerpo redondeadas, eso funciona muy bien XD
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DingoPatagonico In reply to Hernan-Genesis [2019-10-01 02:27:38 +0000 UTC]
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Hernan-Genesis In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 02:31:23 +0000 UTC]
Exaaaaaaaaaaactooooo!!! 0w0 (M**rda, que ternura... ¡¡ARGH!!)
Contraataco con bebé Ti'seat:
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DingoPatagonico In reply to Hernan-Genesis [2019-10-01 02:34:19 +0000 UTC]
Eso fue digno de Yugi Oh XD
"Coloco una carta trampa boca abajo y termino mi turno! XD"
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Hernan-Genesis In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 02:38:23 +0000 UTC]
Jajaja, igual me mataron los mini-klendulathus XD
La apretones de mejillas que llevaban cada vez que alguien los veía. ^w^
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DingoPatagonico In reply to Hernan-Genesis [2019-10-01 02:41:22 +0000 UTC]
Encima que su familia es enorme XD
Breihzlander lo tenia mas facil...hasta que los conocio XD
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Hernan-Genesis In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 02:44:23 +0000 UTC]
No me quiero imaginar, la familia de Rione tiene pocos integrantes y sin embargo lo hartan de tantos mimos XD
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DingoPatagonico In reply to Hernan-Genesis [2019-10-01 02:57:27 +0000 UTC]
*les pasa a Breihzlander, todo peludito y con orejas largas adorables* XD
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Hernan-Genesis In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 03:02:22 +0000 UTC]
Cachorrito ^w^
Rione cuando era muy chico, casi siempre estaba cerca de su papá... Y todos le hacían bromas a Rio, o le preguntaban cosa en plan "¿Sales a pasear con tu yo miniatura?" porque tiene rasgos idénticos al padre, pero en versión nenito XD
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DingoPatagonico In reply to Hernan-Genesis [2019-10-01 03:08:15 +0000 UTC]
!! XD obvio perfecto para poses de ambos dos juntos haciendo lo mismo XD
no se si viste a los padres de Marcos, pero el se ve igual al padre con el color de cabello de la mamá XD
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Hernan-Genesis In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 13:13:47 +0000 UTC]
-No le hacía falta practicarlo, le salía solo eso XD
Encima Rione de bebé era una cucarachita que trepaba por todos lados... Siempre se escapaba de la cuna y aparecía durmiendo entre sus padres a la mañana. No como su hermana melliza que era un poco más independiente XD
Los zorros ya de por sí tienen una genética bastante Strong... He visto algunos estudios que te mostraban como se podía distinguir las diferencias que hacían sus rostros únicos, y se podía identificar de quienes son padres, ya que lo hijos tenían algunos rasgos faciales muy similares.
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DingoPatagonico In reply to Hernan-Genesis [2019-10-01 16:54:19 +0000 UTC]
Hora de poses de las fuerzas especiales de
FREZERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
XD
no sabía...pero eso mismo ha pasado entonces XD
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Hernan-Genesis In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 17:07:20 +0000 UTC]
Estoy seguro que los hijos de Marcos van a hacer aún más adorables que él. Teniendo en cuenta que serán mezclas con los rasgos de sus parejas.
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DingoPatagonico In reply to Hernan-Genesis [2019-10-01 17:11:28 +0000 UTC]
Pero si son mas adorables la gente morirá al mirarlos en una bola de fuego xD es demasiado xD
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Hernan-Genesis In reply to DingoPatagonico [2019-10-01 17:18:05 +0000 UTC]
Seguirán el típico cliché de que su padre es un soldado retirado que les enseña cazar en algún bosque remoto, hasta que aparezcan tipos del gobierno o algo así requiriendo a Marcos para una misión especial que involucra terroristas y emergencias de escala mundial?
Jajaja, es que todas las películas de soldados o francotiradores empiezan igual XD
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