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DrawKill In reply to LovelyWriter1 [2013-06-26 18:17:21 +0000 UTC]

Eh heh, yes, she can be.

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DrawKill In reply to bezzalair [2013-02-23 18:21:05 +0000 UTC]

Why thank yea~!
I had fun painting that part. Uhahaha. |D

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DrawKill In reply to Czhe [2013-02-21 23:54:59 +0000 UTC]

Eh heh, thankss, I tried to mirror most of it, but I did actually did flip a few facial things to keep it looking like the same person as it was one of those days.

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DrawKill In reply to Anithefail [2013-02-21 20:54:18 +0000 UTC]

Yeeee. Thank you my Ani~ <3

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DrawKill In reply to Iiwi [2013-02-21 18:22:35 +0000 UTC]

Yerr, my characters stories are filled with all sorts of crazy.
Thank you! Will do.
u v u <3

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Iiwi In reply to DrawKill [2013-02-21 21:37:59 +0000 UTC]

^-^ BUT crazy ROCKS, being normal is OVERRATED. //shot

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DrawKill In reply to la-Structure-du-Ciel [2013-02-21 18:19:29 +0000 UTC]

Thanks you. <:-D

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DrawKill In reply to TalkyMeat [2013-02-21 18:19:17 +0000 UTC]

Yes, she would. :>

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TalkyMeat In reply to DrawKill [2013-02-21 19:21:25 +0000 UTC]

Interesting … so, does Dark Wonder realise she's working towards her own destruction? Is it willing self-sacrifice on her part?

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DrawKill In reply to TalkyMeat [2013-02-21 20:52:54 +0000 UTC]

Mmn, good question. Dark wonder is still just a figment of Tsuki's imagination, she doesn't technically have a mind of her own, because she's just a part of her. Her aid can be viewed by Tsuki as more of a motive that she's not mentally stable as she's seeing a being that no one else can, a figure made up of her tragic reality and the process of leaving her comfy childhood behind and entering the transition of becoming an adult. Though Dark Wonder can offer as an aid, she can also become a pull, she's looked upon as more of a question that Tsuki has to answer, does she want to face reality and defeat her? Or does she just want to continue running and accept her?

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TalkyMeat In reply to DrawKill [2013-02-22 13:50:58 +0000 UTC]

So, Wonder, in both aspects, can be seen as an anthropomorphised manifestation of aspects of Tsuki's own mind from which she has experienced dissociation? Of course, in such cases, facing reality and fighting the delusions is probably not enough, unless that also means seeking treatment; a prescription for antipsychotics would probably do a lot of good.

On the other hand, there is the example of John Nash, a Nobel Prize winning mathematician diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, who gave up taking medications and learnt, with some difficulty, to distinguish between reality and hallucinations, and ignore the latter. He says he's always a little slow around new people, as it takes a while to make sure they're real. If you haven't seen/read *A Beautiful Mind*, I recommend it.

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DrawKill In reply to TalkyMeat [2013-02-23 01:10:17 +0000 UTC]

Yerr, she goes through a lot of shit, but such as life, although hers might be a little more fucked up. But yesss. I've been meaning to watch that movie, I've had several people tell me about it and to go and watch it, I however keep forgetting the title of it, but you seem to know it, I'll defs have to watch it someday soon. Perhaps it'll give me some ideas. I'm really into psychology and the such, but have lots to research as of yet.

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TalkyMeat In reply to DrawKill [2013-02-25 00:03:51 +0000 UTC]

It's a really interesting subject - in fact, my research (I'm a PhD student) is in a closely related area - computational developmental linguistics. It's fascinating how many different disciplines and levels of description are involved in studying the mind/brain - from the molecular biology of the single neuron to social psychology!

There are lots of good stories to be told, I think, by creating an interesting, resilient character, and making them deal with lots of fucked-up shit. Kurt Vonnegut put it best; "Be a sadist. No matter how sweet and innocent your leading characters, make awful things happen to them—in order that the reader may see what they are made of." My main OC, Morta, has a few neurological issues of her own, and that's only the beginning of what she has to get through…

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DrawKill In reply to TalkyMeat [2013-02-25 02:34:02 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, there's so many different types. I tried to get into a psychology class in college when I was in need of my academic courses, but it turned out I was kinda late with registering and it ended up being full.

Sounds like my quote to go by, haha. Sometimes I wonder if I should have placed Tsuki in more of a slice of life story with just regular life issues, but I can't go back now. Wonder just doesn't fit with anyone else, and It'd minus out too many other characters, and boy does she meet up with a lovely one later on.

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TalkyMeat In reply to DrawKill [2013-02-25 21:30:54 +0000 UTC]

Interesting. There's a lot of oft-quoted writing advice to the effect that, besides being sadistic with your characters, authors should also be ruthless with themselves - Faulkner's line that "in writing you must kill all your darlings", or, as Samuel Johnson put it, "Read over your compositions, and where ever you meet with a passage which you think is particularly fine, strike it out." Personally, I think these formulations are rather too extreme, and and annoyingly macho, but there is a kernel of truth there, which is that, in writing, you should never allow yourself to be so in love with a phrase, a passage, a chapter, a character or a plotline, that you cannot bring yourself to kill it, even if doing so would make the overall work better.

To be honest, it's a piece of advice that I have a hard time following myself - though I have once killed off a chapter's worth of descriptive prose, including some stuff I was really proud of, when I realised that that particular chapter would work much better as a comic.

Still, if you really think a different plotline would result in a better story overall, perhaps you should consider it. Then again, I don't think the story of Tsuki's struggles with Wonder couldn't be a slice-of-life story; after all, paranoid schizophrenia, hallucinations, and hearing voices are all things that do happen to real people. It's just that you would have to be very careful about depicting her illness in an informed, realistic way, without sensationalising it. I'd recommend having a look at some of Oliver Sacks' books, especially his latest, titled Hallucinations.

God. I'm going to try to stop giving advice now. This is making me feel old.

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DrawKill In reply to TalkyMeat [2013-02-28 17:58:17 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, I want to make a crazy story, but I don't want to to be too deep down in the depths. Still wanna add some lols here and there. But aye, I don't honesty know if it'd be better, for now I have my mind set on what I have going now, just with those thoughts off to the side. Who knows perhaps I'll change my mind in a year and completely scrap it (doubt I will though, been working on these characters and plot for years). But yes, I do intend to make it more realistic. Tsuki's hallucinations and dreams however I'll go a little more fantasy like on that as they're not really real anyway.

Aha, and all right, but overall kinda helps a bit. 8D

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TalkyMeat In reply to DrawKill [2013-03-04 16:32:02 +0000 UTC]

Adding lols and realism needn't be at odds either, of course; it all depends on how you handle it. There's a big difference between, on the one hand, playing mental illness for laughs, which would "other" your protagonist and weaken the story; and on the other, finding humour in dark places by tapping into how Tsuki finds humour in it herself, which would humanise the character and make her relatable, even to readers who have never had to deal with such issues in their own lives, help destigmatise mental illness, and, potentially, give a realistic depiction of how people with real mental health issues use humour to help them cope with difficult lives.

Humour needn't trivialise literature. It's said that Aristotle regarded comedy as a higher art than tragedy, because tragedy shows human life as it seems to humans, but comedy shows it as it seems to the gods - which is why his now-lost work on comedy was not preserved by the scholars of the middle ages.

Argh, I'm pontificating now. I'm meant to be marking undergraduate Java projects. If I ever end up teaching in an English Department, I'll probably spend all my time fucking around on Stack Overflow, spouting off about coding methodologies…

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DrawKill In reply to TalkyMeat [2013-03-09 19:25:32 +0000 UTC]

Yeaa, most of its going to be dark humor and the odd events that happens in daily life. I love dark stories, but not everyone wants to read a greek tragedy, as apparently cleansing as they are. The story itself isn't just about Tsuki as well, so I have lots to play around with.

Uhaha, better get working on that, I have plenty of school work to be doing myself. Procrastination station up in here.

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TalkyMeat In reply to DrawKill [2013-03-10 06:41:34 +0000 UTC]

Sounds like a really interesting story - I'd love to read it!

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DrawKill In reply to Mama--Owl [2013-02-21 05:34:01 +0000 UTC]

Why thank yea.
I try my best. u v u

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Mama--Owl In reply to DrawKill [2013-02-21 05:48:09 +0000 UTC]

<3 Well it certainly shows. Well done.

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