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zemislav [2016-07-12 09:43:13 +0000 UTC]
Hi. Can I use and edit this picture for my page www.facebook.com/duchslovansky… ?
I want to write to the image few words about our God Perun and spread image to peoples.
Thanks for your response.
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DuszanB In reply to zemislav [2016-07-12 13:34:33 +0000 UTC]
Ano brat.
Use it freely, just mention me as an author.
Slava!
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zemislav In reply to DuszanB [2016-07-12 15:52:22 +0000 UTC]
thank you, I will paste link to the picture. Slava!
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SSJDanger77 [2013-08-10 14:34:19 +0000 UTC]
How many branches of the Slavic tree are there? and what are their names please?
Just curious...
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DuszanB In reply to SSJDanger77 [2013-08-10 15:22:31 +0000 UTC]
Again, I don't understand your question.
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SB1925 In reply to DuszanB [2018-10-11 08:10:47 +0000 UTC]
I think what he means is how different are the various branches of the Slavic "family" from others? TO answer his question, Slavs are divided into the Eastern Great Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians) and Western branches( Poles, Slovaks and Slovenians such as current First Lady Melania Trump). Religion also plays a role I suspect( Russians and Belarusians are Eastern Orthodox, Ukrainians are followers of the Greek rite Byzantine Church-known derisively as "Uniates"- which has its own liturgy but accepts the authority of the Holy See), Poles, Slovaks and Slovenians are traditionally Roman Catholic- satisfied now?
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DuszanB In reply to SB1925 [2018-10-11 20:01:16 +0000 UTC]
You got some of that right. Slovenians belong to South Slavic group alongside Serbs, Croats, Bulgarians etc. West Slavic group is composed out of Poles, Slovaks, Czechs and Sorbs.
Also Ukrainians are predominantly Orthodox, there is 9-10% of Uniates.
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SB1925 In reply to DuszanB [2018-10-13 08:35:30 +0000 UTC]
I DO wish that you wouldn't use that term "Uniates" to describe Ukrainians-the term is considered derogatory and "Greek Catholics of the Byzantine rite" is preferred nowadays!
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SSJDanger77 In reply to DuszanB [2013-08-10 23:27:41 +0000 UTC]
Like, are there any worlds or realms on the slavic tree? If there are, I just want to know... But thanks for answering my last question
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DuszanB In reply to SSJDanger77 [2013-08-13 10:52:34 +0000 UTC]
In the treetop lives thunderer and other gods, in the middle are humans.
And afterlife, place "beyond the sea" is in the roots of the World tree, where rules god Veles - "Irij".
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SSJDanger77 In reply to DuszanB [2013-08-13 16:35:50 +0000 UTC]
So Svarga, Yav, and Irij are the three branches?
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DuszanB In reply to SSJDanger77 [2013-08-13 18:22:51 +0000 UTC]
Well Svarga is just hypothesis taken from Hinduism.
Yav, comes from "yava" - reality and it is used to describe awaken state. And Irij is place of the dead.
It is treetop-trunk-roots division.
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SSJDanger77 In reply to DuszanB [2013-08-15 16:39:04 +0000 UTC]
Tree top = Gods
Trunk/ branches = Humans and others
Roots = The underworld
Is that right?
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SSJDanger77 In reply to DuszanB [2013-08-15 23:02:49 +0000 UTC]
How many children or sons did Perun have? I heard he had 8 based on a statue ritual thing in Novgorod.
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DuszanB In reply to SSJDanger77 [2013-08-16 09:53:05 +0000 UTC]
Firstly, Slavic deities are not as anthropomorphised as deities in Greek or Nordic mythology. But yes, in some folk songs there is mention of one daughter and eight(sometime nine) sons of thunderer.
Eight fires around Peruns statue and one in front of the statue make nine, a sacred number. It can represent those sons, or eight different aspect of Perun.
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SSJDanger77 In reply to DuszanB [2013-08-18 05:14:27 +0000 UTC]
Well based on what I know, Devina and Jarilo are the only confirmed children of Perun. The daughter being a huntress while the son is a war/fertile god.
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DuszanB In reply to SSJDanger77 [2013-08-18 08:57:51 +0000 UTC]
Those sons are not named.
Well, Devana is mentioned just in one, and not so reliable source.
And around Yarilo there are few hypothesis which tells that he was stolen from Perun and taken as a child to the underworld to be raised by Veles. But there is still a lot of work to prove that hypothesis. Again, others identify him with Veles or Perun. And some don't consider it as deity but just a ritual character.
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SSJDanger77 In reply to DuszanB [2013-08-18 22:52:30 +0000 UTC]
So I guess my next question is are those names forgotten in time or they were never named?
Well there have been other candidates like Dazbog, but he's more like a fire god of the day and the king of the seas at night.
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DuszanB In reply to SSJDanger77 [2013-08-19 07:53:06 +0000 UTC]
They were never named. Because different songs talk about different number of sons. And they are not that relevant
Daždbog is mentioned only as a son of Svarog. In one translation of Greek text where names of their gods were translated into Slavic. Other than that, he is "giving god" that is what his name means, mostly connected with Sun.
Where did you read that he is fire or sea god?
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SSJDanger77 In reply to DuszanB [2013-08-20 21:25:40 +0000 UTC]
A YouTube video from some Slavic pagans saying Dazbog rides in his chariot across the sky (Sun) from the heavens and over down into the seas. (Sun rise <---> Sun set)
And that's why Dazbog can be associated with the Sea. Because at night that's where he stays.
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Drakonitka [2013-05-17 10:23:42 +0000 UTC]
No nieźle, tylko w mojej ksiązce napisali, że Perun miał złote włosy i srebny wąs. Ale naprawde nieźle.
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Drakonitka In reply to DuszanB [2013-08-11 06:00:19 +0000 UTC]
Słownik ortograficzny niewiele mi mówi.
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DuszanB In reply to Drakonitka [2013-08-11 15:32:57 +0000 UTC]
That is description of his idol. With silver head and gold mustache to be precised.
"Перуна древяна, а главу его сьребряну, а усъ златъ"
"wooden Perun, and his silver head and gold mustache"
-Primary Chronicle (Повѣсть времяньныхъ лѣтъ)
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art-esoterica [2013-02-17 03:42:12 +0000 UTC]
Перун - Изображался он в виде седоголового рыжебородого пожилого воина в полном доспехе, держащего в руке либо палицу, либо яркий драгоценный камень, символизировавший в этом случае молнию.
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DuszanB In reply to art-esoterica [2013-02-17 15:42:12 +0000 UTC]
Не можемо тврдити да постоји јединствени опис Перуна. Нема старих записа који би нам могли послужити као извор по том питању, тако да се Перун може слободно представљати по сопственом нахођењу.
Што се оружја тиче, поред секире Перун се може представљати и са батинoм, или са два жрвња којима производи грмљавину.
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Coen-Wierzbowski [2012-04-28 17:58:02 +0000 UTC]
Absolutly, completly and totly great. O love both the idea (axe as on the neckless, shirt, small ring chainmail with armor scales) and the art (way material lay on body, vains on hend, muscles) Best Perun i ever seen
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DuszanB In reply to Coen-Wierzbowski [2012-04-28 20:04:23 +0000 UTC]
Thank you brother, thank you very much !
I like to incorporate number of details as tryzub like ornament on axe, Slavic fibula or Serbian traditional shoes, "opanci".
Sława a chwała !!!
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DuszanB In reply to KoridaNovoNaselje [2012-04-27 19:24:29 +0000 UTC]
Слава Перуну !!!
Слава брате !
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AThousandRasps [2012-04-24 21:07:14 +0000 UTC]
I love the details on the undershirt. And those shoes!
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DuszanB In reply to AThousandRasps [2012-04-25 00:12:27 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. Most of Slavic shirts have that kind of embroidery. And shoes are part of Serbian national costume, they are called "opanci", there are more types, these one is from central Serbia.
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