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Model: SiobhΓ€n ZoΓ«Photography: Geoff Jones
Makeup/concept: Mary Li [link]
Hair: Catherine Cheah from Raven Waves Extensions
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Smooth as silk.. those textures in the hair complement everything in this image. Well done!
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Looks like one of those black mannequins and not a person.
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this is sooooooo beautiful!! can i save it???
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Love how you took the most blatant, shocking contrast in the human world (black and white) and harnessed it for this photograph. Gorgeous model, too.
I'm not quite sure what this artwork is saying to me... but whatever it is, I like it. I think. Good title, too.
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Sooooo beautiful <3 The hair and sheen on the skin, wow.
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I think this is very stimulating .How brave to go black face with straight long blonde hair.If some would be upset with it then the problem is their own.Art after all should push boundries, sparking conversations.Wonderful I love it.
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A)Blackface isn't brave, it's offensive
B)The model is black.
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What makes you think the model is black?
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Why are you acting like being black is so offensive?
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Can you rephrase that? I can't make any sense out of what you're trying to say...
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I cannot make it any simpler than that, and it isn't my fault you clearly can't understand a simple question.
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Reiteration and simplification are not the same things...
But since you apparently aren't good at using words, I'll just forget about it.
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"Aren't good at using words..."
Yup.
I'm the one who isn't good at words.
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Words is a noun. You can't be good/bad at a noun.
"I'm not good at chair," or "I'm pretty good at doughnut," is essentially what you just said.
Thanks for proving my point though. I understand English is probably your second/third language, so don't feel too bad about it.
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I also like how you fail to grasp that I was making fun of what you originally said. Seriously, what a loser.
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I didn't mean for you to get so upset when I proved you wrong
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You are, without doubt, the most egregious piece of detritus ever to walk the face of this callous world.
Also, you're adopted. So that's funny, too.
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Her bone structure and the fact that I googled it. She's black.
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Googled it and got what? What conclusive results did you reach, if any?
And because she's sticking her chin out does not mean she has "African facial structure" (because that's what you mean).
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Uh no, that's not what I meant at all. By 'she looks like she has an african facial structure" I meant she looks like she has an african facial structure. How would sticking your chin out do that, exactly? You wouldn't even have to google it, if you go to his gallery there's a picture of her in color instead of black and white. I really don't see why you're being so weirdly pissy about it.
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"there's a picture of her in color"
Y'know, models have been known to wear makeup from time to time... also, as I've said before, inversion implies that her colors have been reversed, not that most of them are the same. Maybe whoever chose the title isn't a native English speaker and doesn't know the exact meaning and she is actually black, but for you to say that she has African facial structure when you don't even see how that's related to a protruding jaw just strikes me as very ignorant.
Weirdly pissy? You can put it that way if you want, but I just have a sharp tongue. I hope you aren't getting offended in any way.
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I said that sticking your chin out would not change your facial structure. If it was a white woman sticking her chin out, it would look like a white woman sticking her chin out. The model is very obviously black, and "inversion" may refer to anything from the fact that the picture is in black and white to the fact that dark skinned women very rarely have light hair (not counting dye-jobs). The title could have a meaning that would mean nothing to anyone but the artist. In any case, it proved nothing. Look at her nose, her cheekbones, her lips, her forehead. That lovely lady is black.
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Of course it won't change your actual facial structure, but given the right positioning it's easy to fool the camera.
Also, er... a person's face varies more by person than it does by race. Also, things like "forehead"; I haven't seen many distinguished foreheads of any ethnicity...
Which leads me to my main point: that we are not as alien as you think we are. Black people don't have facial structure that is drastically different than that of white man master race. Even then, cheekbones can be raised and lips supplemented. People can look however they want nowadays, especially models, so to assume one is all natural (lol) and their features are their own is usually wrong.
Maybe that doesn't apply to this model -- maybe the only unnatural thing about her in this photo is her makeup. Until I know for sure, though, I won't jump to conclusions.
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Facial structures do vary from race to race though, which is precisely why someone like an anthropologist can determine a person's race by examining their skull. I'm not sure why you're bring up the master race or whatever, because every race has defining characteristics. You're acting as is the model being black is so incredibly far-fetched that it would simply have to be someone of another ethnicity having had extensive surgery and having make-up applied for several hours to make themselves look black. Given the fact that black models exist, why in the hell would someone have another model reconstruct their entire face? That is absurd. I really don't see why you seem to be so opposed to the model being black. Does it bother you? Would you not find her as beautiful if she was, is that it? That's the only reason I can think of for you coming up with ridiculous things to prove that it's all just make up and a reconstruction of someone's entire face.
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"why in the hell would someone have another model reconstruct their entire face? That is absurd." Because people don't do absurd things on a daily basis in this day & age? Have you honestly never seen a model get lip injections or do something to strive for a different look because they aren't satisfied with themselves?
Also, let me clear up the face thing: there is a bigger pool of characteristics within one race than when comparing two different races. i.e. not all black people have the same facial structure, so for you to try to use features that enforce stereotypes (i.e. big lips) and say that because of those she must be black is offensive, honestly.
You say that her entire face would have had to be reconstructed for her to achieve this look if she were white, but again I'll say that it has been done many times before, and that not all black people have this one streamlined facial structure that is vastly unique.
I'm not opposed to her being black, I'm opposed to your subliminally racist claim that she is black because of features that don't even matter (forehead, lips, lips, etc.).
Also, who ever said I thought she was beautiful to begin with? Even if she was, that beauty isn't hers; it belongs to the makeup she wears. I'm not saying she isn't because I haven't seen her real face, but there is isn't any real beauty in someone covering up their real face.
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Listen to me, every race has it's own defining characteristics, not just black people. That is just not me saying that, it is not a stereotype, it is a scientific fact. OBVIOUSLY everyone isn't going to look the same, but there are certain traits that people of the same race will share. Pointing that out isn't racist. That'd be like me being offended because someone points out that most spanish people have dark eyes. I asked you which one seemed more likely, someone having a model reconstruct their entire face to look black OR IT JUST BEING A BLACK MODEL. You decided to go with the former. Yes, people have surgeries and whatnot nowadays, but it's very likely that the simplest solution is the right one. Your thought process makes no sense. It's like if your smoke alarm went off and you thought "well, it could be a fire, but it's probably an undiscovered volcano under my house that was dormant until this very moment spewing lava directly into my living room". Now there is a possibility that there is a dormant volcano under your house, but why would that be the conclusion you jumped to?
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Yes, a lot of Spanish people have dark eyes, but that trait isn't absolute. You can't say that someone is Spanish just because they have dark eyes. Something being common and shared does NOT make it ubiquitous. You can ASSUME someone's race from a look at their face, but you can't be sure, even when they aren't wearing any sort of makeup, let alone when they are.
Then, we have the possibility that she is mixed.
Did I choose an option, or are you assuming I did because I'm considering the possibility?
YOU are jumping to conclusions, not me. I've said several times that she may very well be black, but it has not yet been proved and your anecdotal evidence is insubstantial.
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What
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I didn't say-
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Oh my god, are you typing with your face right now?
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Thwarted of course
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Thwarted what, my dastardly plan to insert a tiny bit of logic into your head?
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I don't exactly see how me saying "Maybe she isn't black, maybe she is" isn't logic and you saying "She's definitely black because only a black woman could look like that" is, but yes, I suppose so.
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Except you were saying "well she's probably not black, it's probably someone with a skull/face transplant, because that's clearly the more likely possibility"
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I don't recall ever saying that, are you sure you didn't just meld my words in your head into what you thought I meant?
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I can clearly see everything you said, seeing as messages don't magically disappear when you stop looking directly at them.
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Well her features for one and secondly you can google her name
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Plenty of models have had bodily enhancements done, and her features aren't so prominent that she couldn't be another ethnicity. Googling her name also only yields scattered results, and the only thing hinting at her ethnicity is a YouTube video of a poem written by a girl of that name.
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well here she is again on Eman333's profile
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