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FablePaint In reply to Ciameth [2016-04-16 05:14:04 +0000 UTC]

yeah like if you describe the movie to me, it sounds like the best thing ever. But it's so dripping with 90s-ishness that it gets in the way of anything really coherent. Really just axing the children would solve like half the issues.

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FablePaint In reply to Droemar [2016-04-12 21:17:49 +0000 UTC]

to be absolutely fair, there's suggestions now that ceratopsians might have scavenged. Stranger is the Parasaurolophus's appetites. It doesn't have the right tooth structure at ALL for meat consumption.

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Droemar In reply to FablePaint [2016-04-14 04:10:26 +0000 UTC]

No, no, no fairness needed. It's not like some genius with foresight was like "I predict ceratopsids will be discovered as scavengers!" No, they were like 'Hotdogs are funny. Make the dinosaur like hot dogs. Make the herbivores desire skin pouches filled with the shreds of anus and intestines, because it will be hilarious, and people will love it."

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FablePaint In reply to Droemar [2016-04-14 04:35:59 +0000 UTC]

aye that's what was decided in the board meeting, but I'm just amused they accidentally did something for a joke that turned out to have some basis in our current understanding of reality.
That whole movie was very by-committee

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FablePaint In reply to Oly-RRR [2016-04-12 04:47:05 +0000 UTC]

I love people doing nostalgic revisits. Everyone's done it for Sailor Moon or videogames, but rarely these old awkward animated films.

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Oly-RRR In reply to FablePaint [2016-04-21 01:06:52 +0000 UTC]

I sometimes wonder if I want to revisit something or remember it as good as it seemed! Like I still haven't rewatched The X-Files because they were a BIIIG part of my teen years and I just worry I'll cringe at the writing now... But yeah, sometimes revisiting this sort of stuff is really fun!

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FablePaint In reply to hibbary [2016-04-11 20:28:11 +0000 UTC]

that was SO WEIRD and the movie really ought to have included even more of him. He just kind of pops up and was totally avoidable if only they'd not had that hairbrained idea to circus.

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LeccathuFurvicael In reply to hibbary [2016-04-11 18:39:59 +0000 UTC]

I am so glad that someone else brought this up! Damn, this movie had some really dark moments, and I love it.

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FablePaint In reply to Erix19 [2016-04-11 20:15:38 +0000 UTC]

That's one reason I was delighted to learn birds ARE dinosaurs. Suddenly, I looked everywhere and I realized I could know something about ancient dinosaurs by looking at the modern kind.

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Erix19 In reply to FablePaint [2016-04-11 22:20:22 +0000 UTC]

I never agreed with that theory. I think it takes away from the mystique of theropods, since basically anything that isn't a theropod gets shafted and disappears entirely according the extremely lacking evidence in the record. There's nothing badass about a T-Rex becoming anything else or being anything else but the fifty-foot long engine of supremacy we know it was. There's also nothing badass about a T-Rex or any theropod with feathers. I would've held this opinion even if I didn't see the Jurassic Park films. If anything, the dinosaurs probably had more in common with egg-laying mammals than they ever did with birds. Plus, that's not how genetics works. 

Genetic information can only be lost or corrupted, never gained. If those genes never existed in the first place, they will never exist at all. The only time a gene that doesn't naturally occur in one animal suddenly appears is when human hands inject that gene into that animal's DNA, such as the spider silk goats. The theory says otherwise and I more or less accept that people will continue to ignore that. The beauty of theories surrounding dinosaurs that can't be gleaned from their bones is that they are just a guess. They can never be truth without living examples to study. Bones can only tell us so much and everyone draws very different conclusions on them.

I'd like to think that some of the smaller dinosaurs managed to outlast their larger counterparts to this day. We have not explored every inch of this planet so who's really to say they're all gone. A bird is nothing and was nothing but a bird from the very start. Every animal was designed perfectly from the start but dinosaurs were sadly unable to cope with a global watery cataclysm, the resulting ice age, and competition with a species still around today. 

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FablePaint In reply to Erix19 [2016-04-11 22:50:27 +0000 UTC]

There are hundreds of fossils with feather imprints. Even going back as far as basal branches of the dinosaur tree, creatures that are bridge across the split between dinosaur families. Here's the list of confirmed feathered dinosaurs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathere… ;
You can even find feathers on non-theropod dinosaurs, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psittaco…
And the genetic information for feathers can be found in crocodilians as well, crocodiles sharing a common ancestor with dinosaurs en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta-ker…

And I've no idea what you're talking about regarding "corrupted or lost" genetic information. You can actually follow the evolution of creatures and show for a fact that genes duplicate, transform, are deleted and reinserted all the time in the natural world. That's how evolution works. That's how mutation works. You can test that in laboratories. You can see it in the DNA of species extinct and living through testing. That's why the corn you eat is not a tiny sprig of grain and instead the massive rows of sweet plant we enjoy today. And why dogs can be dramatically altered in only decades. This is why genetic drift occurs even in humans, leading to alterations in our skin tone, our resistence to diseases, and things like hair texture and height and such. These things are not dependent on human intervention, though we certain can take advantage of mutation in domestication of plants, animals, and in how we handle disease control.

I really think you might need to bone up on your dinosaur knowledge because there seems to be several pieces missing or misunderstood, particularly in confusing mammals for dinosaurs. I can recommend several good paleontology blogs. These are all fascinating to follow and are wonderful sources for inspiration!

a-dinosaur-a-day.tumblr.com/ This is excellent, giving multiple posts a day on dinosaur news and research

speculative-evolution.tumblr.c… this talks extensively not only about real animals and research, but how to apply it to fictional realms

paleoillustration.tumblr.com/ a blog collecting excellent paleoillustration with an emphasis on accuracy and following the latest research

www.sciencedaily.com/news/foss… and entire website's worth of information provided by biologists, paleontologist, geneticists

blogs.scientificamerican.com/t… Darren Naish, one of the premiere paleoillustrators in the field as well as being a paleontologist. Talks extensively about ongoing research.

tetzoo.com/ A podcast also by Naish and his collaborator John Conway. They discuss pop culture, evolution, science fiction and research.

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FablePaint In reply to VCR-WOLFE [2016-04-11 05:26:01 +0000 UTC]

first get me the rights. then oh about...50 million dollars. 

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VCR-WOLFE In reply to FablePaint [2016-04-11 05:26:32 +0000 UTC]

im on it

get back to you in like, 5+ years i think

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