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Alex and Albert Wesker.Commission for NGv2
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Ah yiss...the rich (and psychotic) neighbors from just down the block
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Good lord , do you need a test subject for that virus ?
Uff, i may Overstates the matter but this is too good to be true T-T
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I have to say that I think you've certainly continued to outdo yourself, the light detailing as well as the contrast is fantastic!
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Thank you, I try.
Next are the children, my biggest challenge yet.
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I'm so sorry for causing such difficulties with my commissions, though I do hope you do get some rest as I know you've been busy so take your time with everything.
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The biggest challenge about this is not just about drawing children, but also that they are recognizable as A and A. I think nobody has done something like this yet. 
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I think you did a fantastic job with the Dark Natalex picture for getting that across!
The plus is that Elaine did put photos up of herself when she was young so there's a nice reference basis there.
The only young male character that I think could possibly be a decent reference facially for Albert may perhaps be a young Johan Liebert - you can see a few things here (may want to mute the music) www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq0qRT…
The irony of Johan having also basically been around with his (biological) sister Anna/Nina as part of a eugenics program for superior humans is just another similarity on top of the 90s fashion being similar for Albert too.
So I don't know if that may be of any help as whenever I see people do 'face claim' things in roleplay for a young Albert they tend to use Draco Malfoy from the first two Harry Potter films.
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Thank you!
I don't know what this anime is, but it looks interesting.
Actually if I try to draw young Albert, he does look a bit like Draco Malfoy. lol
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Ah, it's an anime based off a manga called Monster.
It follows around a Japanese doctor that was living in Germany (It's set in the 80s and 90s) who chose to save the life of a young boy over the local mayor and the boy grows up and causes quite a bit of trouble which results in the doctor feeling obligated to put an end to the boy.
The boy, Johan came in to the hospital as he had done something awful and convinced his sister to shoot him in the end to stop him from doing anything like this again (he had done this repeatedly to protect her in the past but she had never discovered it) and after the surgery and he woke back up - he held his hand out to her but she didn't take it and that's something that ultimately hurt him.
Part of the whole thing is that over time, the doctor and the boy's twin sister discover that the children were conceived as part of an eugenics plan in a similar fashion to the Wesker Project but the head of the project had a change in heart after falling for their mother and decided to murder everyone else involved in the project so they could escape and live freely but in doing this one of the children was exposed to a lot of things - which is what you're seeing in flashbacks and they shared everything with each other so neither child knows who was the one exposed and "broken" by this all.
It's a mess, it's interesting though and although it's a bit old and slower paced than other ones it's probably my favourite and the shared similarities is the only reason why I just figured I'd bring that one up as one possibility to have a look at.
Aha, not a bad thing as that's bound to happen - just I was meaning that people were actually using Tom Felton/Draco Malfoy from the first few movies for icons ahaha.
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I can guess you got some inspiration from this anime/manga for your Alex blog.
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Haha, a tad. It's one of my favourites so it's a slight thing between my friend that writes Albert and myself for a little in-joke if that makes sense.
I feel for Johan and Anna/Nina in the same way I do for both of the Weskers. (For the record it was actually Anna/Nina that got the worst end of it all in Monster despite Johan's actions) so it just seemed fitting when one considers the fact that Spencer outright told Albert to his face that he considers Alex to be dead to him.
It's a real mess and that was just something I found to be interesting and with the localization manipulation by the US team it's easier to show some of it when you have similar things to explain it with too.
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Also the idea that Alex is Czech-born German-American. It was actually a mystery for me for some time, because I couldn't figure out if what you wrote on your blog about Alex's nationality was canon or not. Later when I saw the Ulimania Book, which listed her nationality as "unknown" I figured that it probably wasn't, and now that I looked at this anime/manga I though you probably got the idea from there.
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Yeah, see everyone else was under the impression that she was Russian but I saw the Ultimania in advance on it but had to wait until I picked up physical copies (I picked up a few copies when I was shopping in Shibuya) and marked it out.
I have done my own translations but tje person who writes Claire for me does their own and I use their translations for Alex related stuff publicly so I don’t have a bias in mine by accident.
Other reasons for her origin on my rp blog are that I grew up with a Czech girl who reminded me of Dark Natalia Alex so that and the whole irony of Kafka's works being in German but the fact that he preferred Czech was just another thing into the mix. My friend has their Albert of being of German origin so it's one joke between us for lack of a better term.
A lot of stuff has been copied from both my rp and personal blog and touted as canon, but each time I post canon materials I always mark it as such.
It's another such thing regarding Alex's name on my blog. I was the first to use Alexandria as everyone else I've seen has used Alexandra though it's another slight thing as with how avid a reader she is I can see there being a running little joke between a certain pair about the "library of Alexandria".
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I think it's because the island is Russian, so people think she should be too. XD
I don't think so though, as Russian islanders called her a foreigner and a "capitalist" which is a term used a lot for US and Americans. I think she in her origin is a westerner either American or Western European, but she still could have some Russian ancestry (its possible, since Russians live everywhere around the world and she also knows Russian language (most likely)) but I don't think she or any of the Wesker children came anywhere from the Soviet Union, since it would be impossible (or not worth the effort) for some western corporation/person to kidnap children from there, especially in the 60's because at that time it was a very closed country with no access to the west, and Wesker Children were picked based on their parents/family information.
I think that Alex has some noble ancestry, because there is something very noble about her.
I also believe Albert could have some German ancestry, or maybe even British as well, but this is a thing we will never know, which is too bad.
Oh cool.
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Yeah, that's exactly the thing - people weren't paying much attention to her, in the English version the whole "capitalist" thing came up but in the Japanese version they called her a foreigner and/or outsider which seems to be much more vague than what Capcom USA modified it to be.
I don't think they would have come from the heart of the Soviet Union either, even with Spencer's heritage (ties to various nobility and the usage of certain things within his coat of arms suggests there's ties to former imperial dynasties and the like) it would still be difficult considering the timeframe.
I chose the origin and the like for my one as I also looked back through statistical records of nationalities of those within the region permanently and also on vacation as I don't believe all of the children for the project were willingly given for it and a family on a vacation would be an easy target too - for my one, I've been under the impression that they were all quite young when they were shoved into the Project and the likelihood of what was done to them within the early stages could have included an assortment of things to influence their memories and the like in order to accept their new names/surnames and all that.
So, I wanted to keep things open-ended should they ever state what Alex's nationality is and with her attachment for Kafka - if she recalled visiting Prague, or was kidnapped in the region then it'd be easier to simply state one of her earliest memories as such. Hard to differentiate certain things from a very young age unfortunately.
I think so too about the nobility, though everyone else seems to have a whole emperor/empress or nobility write-in for their ones and I don't feel like doing it as the difference is that whilst she has that air to her, she does still actively go and get involved in things - like organizing things within the factory and whatnot herself.
Yeah, especially at the end of the day - documents can be falsified, much more easy to do back then as most places didn't start digitizing paperwork until the 70s or 80s so paper records could be lost or manipulated a hell of a lot easier with the right about of connections, influence and money.
As for the name, yeah, it kind of caught on. There's a number of Japanese fans that we know that caught on with the name, and my friend is used to typing "Alexandria" they accidentally put it in translations from time to time. Just kind of spiralled out from there. Going from dates of name popularity, Alexandra was popular in one region but in being aware of Spencer's UK ties to things (explains the accents as it was never said where the children grew up, only that they were brought to Arklay and that in the late 70s) that logically, Alexandria makes more sense.
Plus, to add to the confusion and open-endedness I wanted to maintain with my Alex, that there are a few more regional variants of that exact name even with borrowed names.
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"Capitalist" or "foreigner", if these communist-Russian islanders called her that, it confirms she isn't anything eastern European.
It's not only the kidnapping that would be difficult, also to get the info on the families, etc.
As far as I know Communist countries didn't allow anyone to go on vacation in the western (non-communist) countries, especially not with their children/families. Only for specific people and only if it was something work-related and under strict supervision.
I think none of the children were given willingly. It was said they were all kidnapped or probably taken by force.
I could never really figure out at what age they were kidnapped. Umbrella was founded only in 1967, so if it was earlier than that, it had to be done privately by Spencer (somehow), using his private people.
I didn't mean that noble
Kafka is known around the world and her attachment for Kafka and his works has nothing to do with any country, but you know the reason why she is attached to his works better than anyone, I'm sure.
Yes, I've seen "Alexandria" in some people's translations, that's why I was really confused if the name was actually canon. Also the person who used to steal stuff from your blog on DA called her that all the time.
They were brought to Arklay? I thought only Albert worked there?
Because of Albert's British-like accent, I always had doubts that he is American like most people believe. Alex has an American accent though.
The strangest thing is how Jake has pure American accent when he himself was raised in Europe and has never even been to US. RE6 is such a bs. game.
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That's for sure, something I never quite understood in how a lot of people continued to think she was Russian - posters for effectively propaganda purposes and the like are obviously going to cater to the locals of the region.
Yeah, that's another thing - there's so much to particular ones so I just wanted to keep my one a bit more open. Alex's wording on it implies kidnapping or deals being made and then being broken as well as Spencer is obviously known to sweep things under the rug, so to speak.
Umbrella was only formally founded in 1967, but this also basically coincides with the construction of Arklay Mansion and from the sheer scale of it (and the laboratory underground) would have taken quite some time to complete construction across the entire facility (as there were additional facilities being constructed at the same time under George Trevor's design) so with that in mind I'd think that Spencer had this planned for a while in advance, likely having scouted suitable candidates as well and by the late 60s - everything else had been neatly hidden away.
The facilities underneath Spencer's actual family estate are clearly old and as we've seen from the Trevor family's notes - he had no issues with having people locked away for testing, regardless of their age as Lisa Trevor was rather young at the time so in seeing how much sway he had at the time (including the fact that the older Ashford's accident is implied to have been manipulated by Spencer in the first place too) it wouldn't be surprising if most of the project subjects were grabbed at a very young age.
Yeah, I know - that's just generally how I've seen it handled and it bothers me so that's why I've avoided doing that for that reason. Well, there's been nothing regarding the subjects' families at all so it's rather open-ended, I think he should have just left things open ended instead of writing in particular things in a site that is supposed to purely be information but that's just another problem I have on that front regarding Paul.
For Kafka, I know that for sure - though I was just bringing up the generalization of memories and locations. Alex did certainly pay attention to locations and personal details in how we had the Wossek and Kierling details, also not forgetting that she personally refers to the Island as Sein (Zain in Japanese) which is another little nod from his Aphorisms too. She has a penchant for using particular things, so while I know that Alex would be aware of her correct origin, I can also see her providing false information as to a certain extent - her true origin is sort of a private matter and she really only trusts Albert to that extent so I think he's fully aware of their true heritage details.
Yeah, I noticed that too. Unfortunately, that one is a bit beyond my control and not everyone outright labels their personal thoughts/headcanons/theories and tries to keep them aside from the actual canon pieces.
Albert did, but there's a little thing to note - all of the files in the first game, and it's remake basically tell us that Albert is treated as the Chief of Security and that he is no longer a member of the active research teams (it's a mistranslation when you see "Mail from" it's "Mail TO") - here's the thing: there's a file that lists an 'A. Wesker' as a research advisor/project lead but this person and the Chief of Security are referred as two different individuals and either this one, the chief of security or a couple of the other project leads must be present if viridae are being used OR if anyone is to use the helipad.
The current research staff also did not recognize Albert either when he was called in to contain the outbreak and secure the facility, so that further implies that the 'A. Wesker' listed is completely different in both Japanese and English.
We also have an office in the remake that has Kafka books in it (made much clearer, the one most easily seen is The Castle), a gramophone with a Mozart record (Jupiter Symphony), reports being submitted to the person in the office regarding the status of plants (Plant-42 and so-on). There's a chessboard, there's also a large amount of medication bottles scattered around and there's a similar journal to what is on Alex's bedside table.
Down the hall from this office is where you find Barry in the smaller office with the aquarium.
Something odd to note is that they also actually cut Barry harassing Alex about not taking her medication and other things that led to them arguing about what happened in Arklay, but unfortunately that's in the script that was cut, that also had more of Alex waking up in Natalia earlier too!
Alex worked for the same division as Albert (intelligence division/secret service/white umbrella/umbrella internal department/whatever it's been referred to under numerous different names throughout the series), which was located in the Umbrella Headquarters - which was located in Raccoon City as Umbrella USA was the division originally established, the European, Asian and Russian divisions were established later, so roughly the order is: Umbrella USA, Umbrella Russia, Umbrella Europe and Umbrella Asia was established last and not long before the whole spiral down whereas the prior two would've been organized in the 70s or 80s.
When Umbrella Europe was established, we also had the cruiseship line and all that thrown into the mix as well but Spencer was basically playing both sides of the main players of the Cold War so those two being constructed isn't much of a surprise.
Spencer tried to send Alex off to the island we see in REV2 in the late 70s, for whatever reason - she didn't and wouldn't go until much later on, even though she was outright assigned to it back then.
Yeah, I always thought that the American accent was bit of a play by him. I may just be a bit biased on it as I'm Australian, my accent tends to differ when I speak with people as quite frequently unless I pronounce things for Americans the way they do, they can't understand me whereas I can enunciate normally with British and the like without problems - so we could be having that going on, or it may simply be how they were taught like Spencer is supposed to be British but his accent sounds more American than British to me as well so it could be a case of external influence regarding their accents as well.
I wouldn't really make assumptions of nationality based on accents, I frequently get asked if I'm American, Canadian or somehow, Russian, New Zealander much more frequently than being Australian.
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She made the posters to "appeal" to the islanders who got lost in some communist limbo, since Russia hasn't been communist for many years. You can imagine how lost in time and space this island was.
I always wondered why Alex was brunette on the poster. It actually made me think that Alex isn't a natural blonde.
The most paradox thing about Alex's appearance is the mole under her eye and I always forget about it, since its not on her in-game model. It's also not there on the concept art drawing.
"Wossek" and "Kierling" locations are connected to Kafka's story and his biography, it has noting to do with Alex herself and her origins. Most things on the island are connected to Kafka in some way.
I forgot about the whole "A. Wesker and Chief of Security" thing. I'll need to look it up one day. However it could be that Chief of the security isn't Albert at this point. Its hard to imagine they thought about the Wesker project story during RE1/Remake days.
I'm ok if A. Wesker actually is Alex, I would even like it if Alex was involved with Raccoon City and Arklay. Also makes sense why they had the Red Queen there.
Barry harassing Alex about not taking her medication. OMG!! What exactly does he say there?
You need to tell me some of that cut script some day!
They had "Russian Division" of Umbrella while Russia was still USSR? How is this even possible?
If Spencer knew about the existence of the Island, why couldn't he find Alex after she betrayed him?
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I know, lots of other people are stupid and automatically went "Oh, she's on a Russian island and has posters SHE MUST BE RUSSIAN!" - makes me smack my head.
I think it's a factor of the texture work, Albert's textures in other things look more brunette than blonde and his concept art generally has similar darker colours. They're kind of infamously bad for hair colours, look at what happens with Claire's hair continually as an example of that being an on-going problem!
Yeah, the mole is also not on the earlier Monster Alex NPC model either so that's a continuity problem there.
I know it has nothing to do with that or am saying it does, I'm just saying in how she likes to vocalize things connected to Kafka that I could see her providing false information to others if asked about personal details if she can't skirt around it by telling them it's none of their business to ask such things.
I mean, the less personal information around whether it is prior to the project, during the project or anything private in the current time going around the better - it's also a useful method of tracking down and isolating people leaking information as the early script was very heavily involved with Alex having a problem with spies so that's part of why I think the location names were inspired by Kafka as code terms - if any of her data is ever intercepted, unless they're familiar with what she's referring to and the context of things - it'll be harder to figure out.
She seems cautious enough to do things like that, in comparison to others outright making note of locations and that in methods that aren't exactly secure in terms of data encryption.
So, not that she's from the same region with how I roleplay her - but it's that it's her running answer for her origin to anyone asking her for information publicly, it's rude to continually dodge such questions or to respond very bluntly so I also think with how familiar she is with Kafka's life and his works, that it and other little details would be useful to do such protective measures.
I mean, makes perfect sense considering the whole thing in RAID is part of her 'Gregor Project' that she's double-checking results within to be on the safe-side and that she's sending data (with recorded notes) to her central system as whatever location it is for it, it's not being done where the heart of the system is. We don't see the heart of Red Queen either in REV2, just a giant server farm so that and the island being referred as a number further gives way - especially in the fact that the remade Wesker Report shows us Albert's base - to imply that the core system and the one Albert is using is actually the one and the same location being shared between them.
It's just kind of amusing to get the visual of Alex leaving messages to Albert like, "Oh, my darling Gregor, it's Grete and I just wanted to read to you Kafka's "The Trial" or perhaps "In The Penal Colony"..." and just hearing him just giving a slight sigh as to how invested she is in to keeping things private with her own little cipher system.
As for that, I'd post up the text and screenshots but my internet connection is awful (we had really bad storms here, I lost power and everything for a few days) so that will have to wait until I can upload files again.
It's certainly in RE1/REmake, it's a lot more noticeable in REmake as they expanded things in it and you see - 5 uses sections of script from the earlier version of Bio4 which involved Spencer's mansion and the origin of the Progenitor Virus being brought up as Gun Survivor 4: Heroes Never Die/Dead Aim outright references it and that was supposed to be out in 2002 originally, that wound up being pushed into being released in 2003.
Bio4 was in development as early as late 1999, early 2000 but there were numerous problems and staff were shuffled around with teams being involved in other things like Clock Tower 3 (2000 through to it's release in 2002) before they were shoved into working on Outbreak, DEMENTO/Haunting Ground at different points of development and being brought in to work on Biohazard 4 on and off - like working on earlier builds, getting pulled off to work on other titles and then coming back to do the additional content for the PS2 version and the porting process.
So it's possible they had more things planned back then, they went through a lot of scripts and versions of things - I don't have all of the Bio4 stuff on hand, neither does Paul or the other collectors that I work with on sorting out confirming prototype content with so I can't say as to what was planned exactly back then, but it's not impossible for it in all honesty.
The files outright give orders to Albert and we know he moved up the divisions and the like over time, but the file is very specific as it tells the 'chief of security' to destroy S.T.A.R.S. and this is in connection to the prologue story too, so that's why the impression I have in RE1 and REmake is that with this incident that Albert has been the chief of security for a while now as the other thing is: the file on the security protocols is dated after Albert left the research division and transferred so there's no reason for him to be listed on there at all and any other files like the ones in Zero have him listed as being in this other division instead of having involvement with research.
The current researchers that were being put into quarantine, there's references to a "man with sunglasses on" that they don't recognize that took the telephones away and the like, so that's just further reason to why it certainly seems like they're two individual people on that file.
It's vague, but it can certainly be worked for things regarding Alex as her file is written in a way that reads as she personally checked and confirmed Albert's death to the required standards of the division and that she was upset by this as well when she wrote her report prior to Raccoon City being bombed, and prior to Nicholai submitting a report (it's in another game - Survivor off the top of my head) that contests reports of Albert's death and manually changes Albert's status from Dead/Killed in Action to Missing.
Like it's more plausible for that, than say the graffiti on the walls of Bio2 that mentions an Alex being alive and being in a hotel and stuff all around the R.P.D. as then that's really drawing at straws.
But I'm seriously rambling, sorry!!
Oh, well it's following Alex's comments about Natalia, herself and also talking about Albert too and it sounds confusing as she's already very upset and Barry is intentionally setting her off and starts off at her that she's clearly not on her medication, that's where a comment regarding Arklay gets brought up and Alex starts on him that he ought to keep his mouth shut and simply stand idly by as that's exactly what he did in Arklay in her opinion. I've got more write-ups with sections, including some of the voiced files I've been able to restore (unfortunately, not everything) in English and Japanese just there's a decent bit to translate still.
So I will show you when it's ready to go, I already have 60 pages of things to sift through and that's only the English side - there's more in Japanese I need to sort out!
I had to figure out a lot of programming to get a lot of things working again in order to figure some stuff out, so that's part of what's taken so long. That said, it's not a pretty argument, that's for sure.
As for that, I think Spencer was trying to broker deals to sell things to Russia (despite selling things to America, because hey, capitalism) but ultimately that didn't go through until the fall of the Soviet Union which wasn't really complete until 1991 but I see Umbrella Europe being set up earlier, or roughly along a similar timeframe in terms of Spencer's involvement as we had the whole Ashford mess happen in 1983. Umbrella Asia was only set up later on as there's more than implies that it's a much newer section of the company. With the fall of the Soviet Union, even Sergei outright says that when that happened that Spencer "took them in" and gave them a new home. So, Spencer is bit of an opportunist and the fall being seen for a while, I wouldn't be surprised if he had ties and was working on things in advance and that's how Umbrella Russia was fairly quickly established as it seems a good amount of the groundwork was already done and that they were using former Soviet Union facilities in advance.
So old facilities may have been abandoned and in the ones brought into Umbrella, old locations that were already practically forgotten were quietly being taken over to form Umbrella Russia once things became easier.
He knew of it, it's that he didn't find out that he was betrayed until very shortly prior to his death. It was actually his steward/assistant, Patrick that had the suspicion that Alex had betrayed him as you see: Spencer thought he was manipulating Alex by appealing to her intellect, to get her to do everything for him but Albert had showed her the truth about Spencer towards herself quite some time in advance and Alex betrayed him by draining him of his money, assets and even staff betrayed him quite easily.
Patrick only figured this out shortly before Albert arrived to kill Spencer, and that's why the conversation between them is important as Spencer tells Albert that out of all of the Weskers - he was the only one that truly deserved the name, the others were all false and because of that, they were all dead to him - he's saying that while at this exact moment in time, Alex is supposed to be working on a cure for him.
Patrick didn't tell Spencer, but instead was working on things himself it seems but Spencer isn't completely an idiot and that's part of why he's making particular comments to Albert - he insults Albert that he's using his own body to experiment on things, that he's achieved things that could have him be considered a god and that it's insulting as that should all belong to Spencer, not to Albert as after all - the Weskers were basically supposed to hand him everything he wanted and step aside.
Clearly, that wasn't going to happen when they got back together and went over everything properly. Spencer just has an ego on him and thought he had sway, that's why he was being shitty in the way he was speaking to Albert and that just set Albert off even more. Though, this is basically where Albert has the thought of the "qualification of a god" and he views Uroboros to be such a thing as it resurrects the dead. With the project for Alex also bringing up the whole "Goddess" and "Holy Lady" terms and that the project is being outright said to be Albert's project - I think it makes sense in one regard to phrase things in a particular way if you already have people dedicated to her, that you make use of them to get things completed quickly and properly without questions asked.
I'm so sorry, I typed so much. I can get really into talking about this sort of thing so easily, I'm SO SORRY for my rambling!!
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wow, now that's a really long message!
The mole is only on the monster Alex model and the painting. I think they added this detail so that when you meet the monster Alex for the first time, you can really see that it's her, because she is so disfigured.
I like all the possibilities where Alex could've been involved in the previous games, like Arklay, Raccoon City, Umbrella Chronicles (Russia/Sergei/RedQueen) and even Rev1 (Terragrigia/FBC).
Well, the original Bio4 did have a story element involving Spencer and 2 of his "children", so it's very much possible that they had some idea like this back then. Also if you see how much they used from bio 3.5 for lost in nightmares, it's possible they also used the wesker children plot from there too. I'm just not sure if they though about the character of Alex already back then. They weren't even sure if it was male or female.
60 pages of things
oh Jesus! How exciting!! 
Didn't Spencer order Patrick to try find Alex and her research after she betrayed him? or am I confusing something?
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Yeah, I'm really sorry - I tend to ramble like hell when I'm tired. Bad habit, apologies for that!
I think so too although there was something interesting in the notes for one other thing, but I'll get into that in a moment.
Yes, so do I! It certainly makes a lot more sense as we know Albert has been wary of Ada for a long time, everything suggests Alex to be the most likely person that was working with him as there's always been an implication of another character around but I never thought it was Ada due to the numerous comments made about her throughout certain things.
Yeah, I know that much - I've interviewed a fair amount of staff that were involved in various projects before to find more out about the earlier versions of 4, just unfortunately haven't gotten my hands on full scripts or builds of things in comparison to other games. There was quite a bit going on with it, one version did certainly have Leon discovering about a history of kidnappings and the like too so it's really hard to say as to how much was recycled into the final version of 5 and Lost In Nightmares.
Though Lost In Nightmares was planned quite clearly early on, just was cut from the game as I recall a friend of mine (his name actually is Albert) that dug through the data early on from a demo disc and pulled that out along with the details about Jill and all that so there was bit of an uproar about Capcom having charged for on-disc data with the rest of the Alternative Edition/Gold Edition content requiring everyone to pay for more of the game when it was already on the disc. Anyway, that's another matter.
Yeah, it's ridiculous as part of the thing is that there's numerous scripts and partial scripts, unfortunately not all of them are marked with what version they are but I've been able to figure out what they are from sifting through a couple of versions of the game and have also been pulling recorded lines from each of these, but part of the problem is: I've also found lines that aren't included in any of the scripts too and these same ones aren't used at all.
I didn't play the game with a second player in-the-room and I can't use the shareplay function as Australia's internet is awfully slow, so I've been having to double-check that lines haven't been used as the problem is - lines may not have been used in the game, but they're all actually actively programmed to be used in multiple languages so that's why it takes so long.
I can actually turn a lot of the cut content back on, I've been doing that too and if I got my hands on even earlier versions of the game then I can do the same thing as all of the programming tells me that a lot of content was cut - The Struggle and Little Miss both have programming for "Now"/present day which has been intentionally turned off and there are files calling for other things that have been completely removed and replaced with dummy data, but elsewhere these calls directed me to more audio files which I managed to find mixed in the files.
What got me is that the notes for the cutscenes (like their target time range, what needs to be done like text superimposed and so-on) mentioned "Old Alex (in creature form)" and things like that so it was just very interesting as there were notes for a "Young Alex" and other things that we never saw but we certainly have Alex's first Monster form as an NPC in the player character files along with another NPC version of Alex in her default costume which is completely different from the programming used for the cutscene models or the RAID version so with that and the fact that it has a completely unique ID means that it was supposed to be working and actively used but never actually was.
I can't remember where I was going with that before I went and had a nap, I'll have to get back to you about that when I do recall what I was trying to say.
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Are you saying they were planning to have something with young Alex in the game? or are you referring to her human form or Dark Natalia?
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Totally different forms from her human form or Dark Natalia.
It's very strange, unfortunately I don't know all of the details behind it but they used completely different terms as they use the format of '[NAME] (Appearance details like form or costume - finalized or TBD)' in the cutscene/storyboard scripts so it's completely different from that.
I wish I knew what it was, I can only wonder if it was maybe flashbacks or something. It would've been nice to see both Alex and Albert together more.
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Why didn't they have any A and A, or just Alex flashbacks?
Why they always skip these good ideas...
It reminds me of Rev1. I always wondered what happened to that original Rev1 beta and what it was all about anyway, but it sure looked much more interesting than the final Rev1 version.
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I have no idea, but each moment we have of Alex has some sort of reference about Albert and it all seems to relate to both of them but unfortunately Capcom USA cut it entirely out.
It was a small miracle that the file about the transfer procedure and that actually survived about them, so it's all very intentional but the impression I have is that there was supposed to be a lot more but they censored and edited everything for international audiences and I think it's bullshit.
Like Little Miss, part of the whole thing with Lottie is referencing Albert and we were supposed to hear children and see that Natalia was being left out and a dark figure approaches her - as it seems to be Alex's memories mashing together with this too. Eventually we would see that it was Neil giving Natalia the Lottie bear but yeah - she also comments about burning and all of that, it's really bad.
Hell, they even cut a line out in Japanese of Alex remarking that if Natalia wasn't going to do something like hide and save herself then she may as well look for a gun and shoot herself.
It's a mess and it makes me so mad that they cut so much about Alex out of the game!
As for that, I can understand that for sure - some of the first REV was seriously lazy for work but that's to be expected for a 3DS title I think.
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You always make me more and more curious about the cut dialogue!
What does she say about burning?
I was actually thinking that when playing Little Miss. When she found smoke bombs, why couldn't she find a gun too?
What is it with Alex and always wanting to suicide?
As much as I would like this line to be in the game, I can understand why the devs cut this one out. Maybe it has something to do with not wanting to mix children with things like guns and suicide. Hell, they didn't even give a gun to Moira and made her "immortal" in the game. Even though she was already over 18 years old, she was still somehow considered to be underage by Capcom (for some reason) based on their interviews.
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All of Alex's negative comments to Natalia were basically regarding 'burning'.
In English you hear "You're toast!" if you are seen in it, but there were notes for little remarks that read like 'going up in flames', 'crashing and burning' and so-on.
I wouldn't say that she's always wanting -- well, technically yes. It's also likely why she likes Kafka's works so much. Remarks in his love letters did include the constant desire to die but the not-yet-yielding being love and other things that make sense to me at the very least on the whole subject. She's very harsh on herself to say the least, it's very unfortunate and it breaks my heart.
Yeah, that line was completely understandable to be removed from the game - there's other things too like a comment about vegans which was removed, I assume likely because Elaine is a vegan.
Likely the bit regarding Moira is due to the international stuff - they did it with Claire before and the whole "problem" in the industry regarding female characters has been a lot more vocal more recently in contrast to way back when. Capcom USA did a lot of the editing and effectively unless you're over 21 in America (Moira's only 20) then you're still treated as a minor.
When you're 18 in my country you're treated as a full-blown adult, I went to America when I was... 19 or 20, I can't recall exactly and was treated as a child the entire time I was there simply because by their country's view I wasn't a legal adult and it was rather ridiculous in how things were handled. A lot of the interviews were handled via Capcom USA, the only decent one I could think of outside of the Famitsu and Japanese press based ones was the one that was conducted via Capcom Europe and unfortunately they didn't really have a hand in editing things as that was the US side.
I just think it's ridiculous that we have to have this constant bland 'take over the world villain ahahahahaha' thing go on when that's not actually what's going on - it's very clear in Japanese that on the Claire side of things, Neil is the actual problem. Alex is the problem on the Barry side of things but at the same time in the scripts, both Claire and Barry were feeling bad, Barry was being protective until the chunk of the script they cut where the whole Arklay mess got brought up during her fight and that's what made Barry intentionally start being rude about Albert to Alex which is what's setting her off in the end.
Like, that remark you hear in English from Barry of "I'm putting you and your goddamn family in the ground!" - Barry is the weapons advisor and did equip Chris for the mission in Africa, Barry had his own hand in the Mansion Incident.
That's intentionally going back to certain things to set her off into a fury, but of course that and Claire feeling bad wouldn't make the cut as it makes Barry not look consistently 'good', doesn't make Claire look 'decisive' like Chris and it also doesn't make Alex (and Albert) look totally evil and generic villains.
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For some reason they only had this problem in Rev2. In other games, they had Claire and Sherry (RE2), Steve, Ashley, Jake, who were underage but could still get killed and there was no problem, but Rev2 for some reason it was a problem. They also had no problem giving Moira very adult-oriented extra outfit but they had problem with her bleeding and getting killed off. pff...
I don't like that RE is becoming more and more censored with each game. It's like Capcom is too afraid to get criticized for such things.
Both Alex and Neil are equally the villains here just not in the same way, but neither of them are evil, generic villains.
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Well, there's been numerous law changes and between 6 and REV2 there's been the whole uproar over female characters in things, so not too surprising.
The Ninja Outfit could have been worse considering outfits they scrapped for Sherry in 6's concept book, shocking alternative concept designs and I really hate the Ninja Outfit in REV2. I was honestly surprised that the shot of Alex's suicide remained in the Japanese version as they haven't been allowed to have much gore in them like the chainsaw decapitations and things are totally censored out in the JP side of things.
Yeah, I'm just meaning that there's been depth that has been cut out of things on a particular side and when you keep cutting things out and editing things to be effectively all but the same - then you just wind up with generic stuff. That's my problem in that regard.
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I have no idea, but each moment we have of Alex has some sort of reference about Albert and it all seems to relate to both of them but unfortunately Capcom USA cut it entirely out.
It was a small miracle that the file about the transfer procedure and that actually survived about them, so it's all very intentional but the impression I have is that there was supposed to be a lot more but they censored and edited everything for international audiences and I think it's bullshit.
Like Little Miss, part of the whole thing with Lottie is referencing Albert and we were supposed to hear children and see that Natalia was being left out and a dark figure approaches her - as it seems to be Alex's memories mashing together with this too. Eventually we would see that it was Neil giving Natalia the Lottie bear but yeah - she also comments about burning and all of that, it's really bad.
Hell, they even cut a line out in Japanese of Alex remarking that if Natalia wasn't going to do something like hide and save herself then she may as well look for a gun and shoot herself.
It's a mess and it makes me so mad that they cut so much about Alex out of the game!
As for that, I can understand that for sure - some of the first REV was seriously lazy for work but that's to be expected for a 3DS title I think.
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No, it's no problem, I actually wanted to try this myself. I think it was my idea anyway. lol
I'm just generally not so good at drawing children yet, but I will try my best. XD
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This came out exactly as I wanted. Thank you so much for taking this commission on for me
Albert and Alex have rapidly become one of my favorite Bio pairings. Even in a somewhat sinister light here, there's something charming about these two. You made them both look openly intelligent, which is a huge plus for me, because I think that's very difficult to convey in artwork. They both look absolutely spot on. Especially the detail you put into Alex's hair and the particular way it falls- that's a great detail. Great light and dark contrast; I love how you've got the shadows played out
All told, this is exactly what I wanted and more. You always do such excellent work, and this is no different. You really hit the mark in a big way
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Thank you! I really hope you like it. I'm still kind of learning you know, so I try different things from time to time.
Albert and Alex is my most favourite pairing ever, I love them to death.
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This is so amazing~ 
Oh! 
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Thank you!
Yeah, why not the red eyes. XD
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Thanks! I try new things.
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You're welcome!
That's awesome
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Omg this is incredible
You should make an anime !!
This confirm me that your prices for commissions are fair ! Excellent work !
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Thank you very much!
I wish. lol
haha XD weren't they? I'm actually very cheap compare to most artists out there.
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