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This is something I've had in the works since January. Someone brought up the idea of "who would win in a fight?" between these two. So I had to try and draw it. It didn't come out as exciting as I'd hoped, but after trying to get the Master Chief and Samus' armor to actually look like they should I didn't care. x_xSo who do you think would win? My money's on Samus, I think.
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As long as this Plasma Grenade don't hit Samus wins.
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I don't think if he stuck or 10 times that she'd die.
Unlike the Mjolnir, Her Power Suit tanks rockets/grenades/missiles like a champ.
be it plasma, concussive, anti-matter, strictly fictional alien hyper elements, or even supernatural energies (psionic, magic, etc)
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one plasma grenade would kill her
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If she was wearingΒ a Mjolnir.
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Yeah, i just remembered that if she survives Lava, that grenade can be eaten for breakfast.
MC will have a terrible death.
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Samus wins, its not even close, its actually a stomp in her favor.
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i want to say master chief, but it would be by like a hair. the battle would be a giant Epic one leaving both mortally wounded. but in all fairness i can't see these two fighting i can see them poing their weaponds at each other but thats it.
also the needler is a Cooper color, not blue. but still awsome pic.
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At the time I'd not gotten enough experience with Halo to know the correct color of the needler. lol But I'm glad you like the pic. Thank you.
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yeah, i can get that.
your welcome.
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You had to give master chief the most stupid weapon in the game.... Why not a spartan laser, it would shred her to a billion pieces.
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That thing takes to long to charge, is limited in ammo, and would barely hurt her shields. Meanwhile it would take asmaus about 2 shots to kill him, even with her standard beam
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You obviously don't know anything about Halo. Let's just say this that "Thing" has fallen from space and survived, can punch through a foot of steel, easily, and happens to eb able to run 20mph, and lift over a ton. Samus. Wouldn't. Stand. A. Chance.
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By thing i was reffering to the spartan lazer. he only survived re-entry because of that door thingy he held on to, and tehcnically only fell 2km on his own, and he was still banged up before they found him. Samus, if taken from her planet into a planet of 1g should be able to lift at the least 85 tons, and can react at supersonic speeds, being able to shoot, think, and react when her speed booster is used (which makes her run at mach1-4). Her weapons deliver multiterrawatt levels of energy (1 terrawatt=1,000,000,000,000 watt, while the plasma pistols in halo do 300,000 watts) and to even harm her shields that amount of power needs to be delivered to her. MC. Is. Screwed.
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I'm sorry but that just sounds completely retarded. And the fact that you say "her weapons" means that you don't actually know how much damage each one can do, you're just guessing. BTW don't use a plasma pistol in a comparison to Samus's best weapons. Mc's hands alone could punch right through Samus's armor, no problem.
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Well according to data given from her planet, she was raised and trained in a planet with gravity 865 times that of the earth, her weight alone on the planet would be about 85 tons. and no i dont know the exact number or power of most of her weapons, but her weakest one, much much weaker than her plasma, and weaker than her standard beam , is volt driver, which delivers multi-terrawatts of power, and i allready explained terrawatts, so no i wasnt comparing the plasma pistol to her strongest weapon, i was comparing it to her weakest, which is still more powerfull than the covenant pistol.
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Mmmkay. Master Chief wasn't raised on earth, more like Eridanus II, though I'm not sure what the gravity was. Here [link] it says differently to what you said about her weight. 198 lbs with her armor? Looks like Samus isn't that heavy, I could pick her up myself.
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thats her weight based on what it would be on earth, or in 1 g. based on their weights mc could easily lift her, but the same could be said for samus. for some reason they never give specs on her based on the gravity of zebes which is smaller than earth but much denser/heavier. in skill id say these two are about even, maybe chief more since he is older, but both have been training since childhood, chief since 6, samus since 3 or 4 as she was seen at the age of 4-5 doing acrobatic moves and jumps that would make olympic level gymnast blush with envy. its really sad that so many people underestimate her, not just those oposing her, but even most metroid fans dont know her whole abilities
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Oh I totally understand! Honestly I'm not sure who would win in a fight without armor. Chief of course has somewhat an advantage because he is a genetically engineered super human, trained to kill since he was 6. He is able to do a lot of things, from easily running 15.3130907 mph (without armor), he is able to lift at the least a ton without armor (remember his armor weighs 1000 lbs and he runs 20mph in it) and not only that, but I imagine very similar to Samus, he has super senses and fast reflexes. I totally understand where you are coming from when people underestimate the chief or Samus. I like to read a lot of Halo lore so alot that I know, others do not. I imagine though because Samus is most likely better at acrobatics, it'd be hard for Chief to even catch her if it came to bare body fighting. But because his ceramic reinforced skeleton, it might be hard for Samus to break his bones. It'd be a pretty nice match to watch.
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Outside of armor theres alot of factors to consider really. but well chief isnt the only one geneticaly enhanced, samus was infused with chozo dna/blood, making her part human and part birdalien. her reactions should really be alot better outside her suit, i mean to be able to use the sit itself takes alot of mental and emotional concentration, keeping the suit up, concentrating on keeping the functions running, then having to constantly keep up with monster and hacing to concentrate on their locations, keeping up with her vitals, making sure her shielding is still at a decent capacity. the suit doesnt think for her, she thinks for the suit mostly. i too enjoy reading the lore of metroid, and am fascinated by the specs on the mjornirl series armor
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I agree, seems the suits are more controlled by the owners. I love reading lore on anything sci-fi fantasy related really, because sometimes the explanations for things are actually quiet good. Like the reason the weapons and equipment in the usmc is so outdated is because there was 100 years of peace so they destroyed all the weaponry they had, and it was against the law from then on to create any weapons of any kind unless they were defensive stunning weapons, ofcourse untill Rebel attacks.
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thats the reason why they arent as effective? hmmm no wonder. anyways i too njoy reading on scifi related stuff, and also enjoy reading on vs. debates. i think th eebst site for vs debates is factpile, as they generally use canon facts and dismiss speculations (for the most part) and require proof to determin winners, although the first few post are filled with fanboys.
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Fanboys are going to be anywhere there is a debate.
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Indeed, but the fanboys have become less and less on that particular site, although they appear occasionaly the true debater seem to keep them at bay.
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You had to give master chief the most stupid weapon in the game.... Why not a spartan laser, it would shred her to a billion pieces.
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Dude, I drew this in 2005. Halo 3 and the Spartan Laser didn't come out until 2008.
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I don't remember saying anything about spartan alsers, but still master chief is 7 feet tall, a super soldier, can lift a ton, and can punch through steel, i'd be more afraid of him then a mute physicist.
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heh!
very good! i like the needler,
you must get tired of the endless responses of "samus wins" or "CHIEF PWNS"
oh well, doesn't matter anyways, samus has been proven to win again and again.
oh and faved!
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Bounty hunter vs spartan......
I've played both games and readed they're comics, and samus manga and the halo books.
They are tied if they're technology would be fair.
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Samus got one heck of an arsenal, (depending in what game, and what moment) but chief would find a way to beat her somehow. He's witty, and pretty tough.
If Samus wins, it ain't gonna be an easy battle, that's for sure... but i'd still bet on the chief.
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Master Chief is really damn cool and all, but Samus can withstand waaaaaaaaaaaay more shit than he ever could.
And don't even get me started on weaponry.
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But how?
Zat is zee question.
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master chief rape samus in combat it not even funny
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so, when she uses the "screw attack" what will he do then? (sorry, rape joke)
in fact, he won't. unfortunate for him, she's also a highly skilled and trained super human who was trained since 3 years of age. Not much unlike him who was trained since 6 and genetically enhanced at age 14,
she has superior gear and better weapon systems than he does.
if it makes you feel any better. the main and strongest reason he probably wouldn't win is she's got better equipment (though, you have to consideration "shit happens" like a stray explosive hit a large amounts of explosive materials that happens to be near by and one of them get's enveloped in the blast, in which Master chief would kick the bucket if caught in it, but Samus would survive with heavy damage. making it possble for him to win. or a number of obscure events that could possibly happen. knowing his luck, it just may happen)
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u over analize you know
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Just the stuff I remember.
people way worse than me out there on this subject
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true but what we say are opinions. it would be cool to have a game with both legends in it
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Master Chief would win hands down, Samus doesn't have energy shields just Armour, so if Masterchief had a Battle Rifle or a Pistol he would get a headshot which would end the battle pretty quickly and keep in mind that the batlle rifle and pistol have armour piercing bullets. If he didn't have those weapons he would just stick her with a plasma grenade Besides Halo 3 is far better than any Metriod game Halo is game that you'll be playing for a year Metriod isn't.
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Incorrect. Samus armor does have shielding, a much stronger one at that. (why do you think it says "Energy" for her life meter?) although it doesn't recharge on it's own like the chiefs, it survives over 20 times the beatings his could take.
be it from missiles, being hit by jeep sized vehicles, beam weapons bigger than her, creature that can rip with star ship/space station armor plating, etc.
kinda puts holes in all your named weapon stratagies don't it?
as for "halo is better" matter of personal preference.
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No it doesn't, although he may need to pull of about 6-12 pistol or a full battle rifle clip both of these are easily accomplished. He would use hit and run tactics simply outlasting Samus. I am not saying she would die instantly but Chief of course would eventually win. As for Halo being better, it does seem to be preferred by many more people so no matter what you say Halo Technically is the better game for simply outselling Metriod Prime 3.
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He's gonna run out of ammo.
Samus has 21 tanks to eat through, and she can restore it too full up to a max of like 4 times. if anyone is going to do the outlasting, it's Samus.
"Armor piercing bullets" are going to amount to squat, as even in halo Ballistics have a hard time against shields. Samus' shielding strength is higher, more abundant in it's total energy supply, it can be recharged manually So by either draining an nearby object of energy (including enemy shields) calling her gunship, or using the crystal flash.
gonna take a helluva lot more than a battle rifle click even if it was all to the face. Samus' armor durability is several fold stronger than his, I mean even the Spartan laser would take a couple shots.
combined with higher durability.
"Hit and run" tactics wouldn't do so well, she's faster and more agile than he is, hiding would amount to nothing as her Radar isn't fooled by staying still or moving slow. combined with X-ray that allows her to see through walls, coupled with the wave beam which shoots THROUGH walls...
And you Assume Samus is just going to stand around and LET him hit'n'run? he's not the only super human trained since early childhood.
Samus' higher agility and speed would enable her to evade more his attacks, so that at the very least he's not going to always hit, considering he has ammo based weapons (that I wonder if they would work if frozen) so the more he misses, the worse he is off. he has to make every shot count.
Tactically, Samus has the advantage, more options.
"Matter of personal preference"
I didn't like it as much as Metroid.
why: not too fond of shooters. so in my case which is the better game?
+ I've never seen a game that the internet flames so much other than Kingdom hearts.
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"He's going to run out of ammo." He could easily call in a Pelican drop ship to drop ammo pods to rearm himself or marines to aid him. "Samus can restore it to a maximum of 4 times." Which Samus are we talking about here, I never finished Metriod Prime 3 but I know for a fact that if Samus wanted to recharge her suit it would have to be at a recharge station not just anywhere and if there happens to be a recharge station at where they are fighting at then it is fair to assume their there are a couple overshields for the Master Cheif as well. As for the Halo Ballistics having a hard time against sheilds, Plasma based weaponary in the game drains energy shields 3 times faster than bullet-based weapons. If Samus did have energy shielding The Master Chief would employ the use of a Plasma Rifle as opposed to a Battle Rifle. Although it is hard to consider Samus's hit points shielding. If Samus could call her gunship to recharge her shild then the Mater chief could call the UNSC frigate Aegis Fate to bombard her position with a MAC Gun which can destroy other covenant cruisers with one shot. The crystal Flash was only a code of sorts in Super Metroid When you have 10 missiles, 10 super missiles, 11 power bombs, and less than 30 units of energy then you had to select the power bombs, morph into the ball, press and hold (L),(R), and down. Continue to hold those, as you press and hold 'fire' yeah it wasn't intended to be one her abilities just a code. Besides I think if Master chief were against any Samus it would be the one from Metriod Prime 3. "she's faster and more agile than he is" Master Chief is capable of running at a top speed of 65.205 MPH and a reaction time of 20 milliseconds. You can't tell this by the game you have to read the novel. With that said nobody has any idea how he would truly look in battle but it can be assumed he would easily run circles around Samus and dodge anything that would come his way and if she were to come too close for comfort he would easily over power with his incredible strength. And the thing about his weapons being frozen even if for some odd occurrence that would happen he would either switch weapons or wait for the dropship to supply him with more guns. the hit and run tactic he would employ would eventually wear Samus down as she has no way to gain back those lost hitpoints.
The chief would outlast Samus as I said before. "Matter of personal preference" Never asked for your opinion on the matter but no since I read your opinion I know shall provide my own. I never could gravitate towards the Metroid series, I tried Metroid Prime 3, I found it a decent game but any more than that is giving it too much. It's gameplay just isn't appealing enough. Metriod tries to be too many thing at once, Incorporates too many different elements that were largely ineffective with me, but that's just my experience, and that closley adheres to one wise saying, "variety is the spice of life." Oh by the way I have yet to see a game whose fanboys are so zealous over their game than Metroid even my own games fanboys can't match the determination and obsession of a Metroid fanboy. As for a for the game being flamed even more than Kingdom Hearts, It largley resembles the jealousy of the game itself but if that's not he case it would probably be the website that your on in which you the game being flamed. If it's Deviantart or some related website than I am largely unsuprised as most people on Deviantart usually gravitate towards virtually anything thats Japanese rather than anything else.
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Then he'd have to hope for the Pelican to come in time and that Samus doesn't shoot it out or hijack it first, or has her gunship shoot it out.
Samus has a few ways to recharge
1-Gunship portable save, restores missiles and bombs to full, Seeing as your saying he can call in outside help, I don't see why she wouldn't be able to call in her gunship. full restore, can defend itself, has it's own Auto repair.
problem here, your assuming he's going to be in range of a MAC cannons assistance. In addition, saying he gets help.. a lot, supplied ammunition, support fire? so he can't do this on his own now? Samus' gunship is in possession of cloaking technology that let's it easily avoid scans and radars, even when flying in enemy territory and space. she designed it herself.
2-Grapple voltage, if anything nearby has energy, Samus can Syphon it to restore her own, including his shields.
Machines, walls of energy, even some creatures she's been able to drain of energy.
3-Crystal flash: considering method 1 she can do this as many times as she wants so she'd only need to call her gunship after either extensive. considering it even featured in a nintendo power Manga as an ability used to restore her armor, it's likely cannon. there was a number abilities that were not told to you that you could do in Super Metoid, all usable the second you had the right items.
4~ this one is extremely iffy. During metroid fusion her DNA was mixed with a metroids, this allowed her to absorb the normally horridly lethal X parasite. Metroid use energy they absorb from living things (supposidly an undetectable energy all living beings have) and use that to multiply and use it to levitate. When Samus absorbs Free floating X-parasite, it restores energy and ammo. suggesting she's have inherited this ability to syphon life energy. this is totally disregarable (makes me wonder why I bothered writing it XP)but that would mean anything, even plantlife, would be able help restore energy. through that would pretty much mean she just wouldn't need the grapple voltage XP
actually, yes it's shielding. you can see the field of energy while in Morhpball mode in metroid primes 2 and 3. plus it explains how the speed booster than Screw attack are completely coating her armor in energy when used. I mean, how else would energy represent health?
Plasma never been really all that effective against Samus, mean Ridley fires beams of plasma that punches through meters thick wall and it still barely harms the powersuit. Phazon is several time more powerful than Plasma, even without phazon protective specific suits her armor holds up very well against.
another thing, how would he know to bring a Plasma rifle? not commom for him to assume to bring, especially against someone he doesn't know, let alone understand the extent of her abilities, less so her equipment considering it's like nothing he's ever experienced fighting before.
besides, Her Stacked beam (in Metroids, Super, Fusion, and Corruption(to a MUCH lesser extent) and Zero mission her beam weapons stack together) would decimate his shielding even quicker than Covenant plasma weapons. rapid fire, no overheating or reloading, infinite (so endless), beam's got a 3 foot radius because it's actually 3 rotating beams, and in unhindered by terrain (goes through walls)
Samus with the armor? her speed is Super sonic, no joke it's even in the Manual. ever heard of the speed booster? allows Samus to run at incredible speeds, normally allowing her to plow through enemies or walls of rock and metal with no resistance (I mean, depends on the wall but rocks and metal non the less) this is supported by the E-manga, were Samus literally springs to action and will be in the middle of a situation hundreds of feat away in a matter of seconds before anyone even notices she's gone when she was just beside them a second ago. predicting/evading fire from behind from what would seem friendly targets, and even noticing a snipe attempt from hundreds of feat up and still having the time to grab two friends and get them out of the line of fire AFTER the shot was fired.
Samus' exact reaction time is never given, it's obviously vastly superior to Human, Being able to react just as other are only thinking about it. not so different from a Spartan, being able to take out several armed and armored war trained soldiers while completely surrounded while with no armor or weapons herself.
Overpower Samus? CQB would be the place he wants to avoid most. Samus' screw attack would make pretty much anything less than a gravity hammer stupid. unlike the metroid prime version, the real she just needs to jump and stay in the air, and with the real space jump, she could do this indeterminately, it would also render her immune too basically anything non explosive or super powerful (like Spartan laser Esq or at the very least a Fuel-rod cannon)
Power bombs just make getting within a 15-20 foot sphere around her a bad Idea.
though you keep claiming He'd dodge her attacks, she's also proven to be a sharp shooter, and a ace of evasion, very likely to evade all his as well. super human trained + genetic enhancement since she was 3 years old WHILE being trained by an advanced alien race has it's benefits.
as for the frozen weapons. Ice beam can usually coat the entire body of the 7 foot tall Space pirates (actually, freezes them totally through to the point you can shatter them) Diffusion missiles on the other hand, the missile would do serious damage, even if it missed, the non lethal 20 foot blast radius pretty much coats everything caught within in Ice except Samus because of the Varia suit fuction. any weapon him would be frozen, including himself, Naturally he could brake the ice off.
facts you are neglecting.
-Samus is super human, Speed, strength, reflexes, etc. and goes toe-to-toe with enemies vastly superior to human who have a 30-40 year combat record. even if he was superior, not enough for to compensate for her armor's abilities.
-Samus' if from far in much more advanced universe, weapons that generate multiple tera watts of power barely damage her. her stand alone (metroid prime 1) Plasma beam can completely reduce to ash several; 7 foot tall alien, with all it's armor and weapons in a single shot. easily more effective than Covenant plasma weapons. her, along with an enemy or two, can move at super sonic speeds, plasma weapons that don't run out of energy.
-I did read the books, he isn't outside Samus' combat abilities at all. I mean if any Spartan had a fair chance against Samus I'd Say Linda if she REALLY far away
again, hit and run isn't going to work so well, nowhere to run that she can catch him or find him. especially when he's more at risk as it takes much less to kill him.
Samus could also pull off the hit and run, her increased speed, jumping ability, flight, etc gives her more opportunities to take advantage of the surrounding area's than he could with infinite portable grav lifts.
he isn't outlast her. she's going to overwhelm him, not with strength, however.
I mean, Samus has seen and fought things he couldn't even imagine, sure Chief's skillful, but compared to things she's fought. he doesn't have anything specialy that she hasn't already dealt with, Chief to Samus on the other hand, chief has NO experience with anything like Samus or her abilities, her armor does a un-realistically more than he would ever assume it could because most of them aren't even physically manifested all the time. worse yet Samus is going to have a detailed file on his armor's capabilities, weapons, physical abilities because of the scan visor. heck she's going to know he's super human, and if she had enough time even what was done to him to make him super human (considering it can do biological scans as well)
he's pretty much outclassed because he's insanely gunned, doesn't have the same durability, has a lot more limits. she exhibits Skill on par Spartans.
granted, in a fist fight, no weapons or armor. the battle would be easily in his favor. Samus has extremely dense bones, but not carbide plated, not that she wouldn't put up a fight, but she's just out of her elements here. Physically he's naturally more durable. and we don't know how strong Samus' is without her suit, Strong ass legs as she can still outjump a Spartan in their strength enhancing Mjolnirs. but the most she's ever seen to brake outside her suit was a small Spire of stone with a small kick. so by default he's stronger in at least the upper body. so if anything, she wins if only due to her vastly superior armaments, being on par with skill.
I mean, we're talking comic book hero styled super abilities vs a reasonably realistic super soldier.
I wasn't really talking about Devi, more or less gaming forums in general with no favor to any particular system, gameplay type, etc, but what ever. though, it's probably mostly these people are grossly annoyed by the fans of the series as you said, zealously praising they games and treating their opinion as fact.
but to be honest, I found Metroid (prime) to be just a first person futuristic Zelda game. but prime 3 didn't do it as well, it came off as more an action game and was a bit removed from it's original exploration roots. probably not as Much as the new Metroid coming out, called Other M (strange name if you ask me.
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Warning very long response ahead
"Then he'd have to hope for the Pelican to come in time and that Samus doesn't shoot it out or hijack it first, or has her gunship shoot it out." The pelican would be far out of her jumping and shooting range when dropping the ammunition and if her gunship were to try and shoot it out the Master chief's own gunship if you will would blast it out of the sky with a mac blast. By the way there are many pelicans housed within the UNSC frigate Aegis Fate, HIS gunship.
If Samus wants to use her gunship to her advantage I don't see why Master Chief can't use his own. "Gunship portable save, restores missiles and bombs to full, Seeing as your saying he can call in outside help, I don't see why she wouldn't be able to call in her gunship." So if she can use her gunship so can the chief. His gunship would be able to decimate her gunship easily however with a mac blast especially against such a small vessel, and if it were to miss which is nearly impossible being run by a "smart" AI it would use it's other MAC guns and the frigate's mac blast is in range as soon as it enters the planet's orbit. His gunship can also call for mac gun assistance and marine support even instantaneous ODST support by hot-dropping on the target planet. "In addition, saying he gets help.. a lot, supplied ammunition, support fire? so he can't do this on his own now?" A case of Samus's gunship support vs. the chief's gunship support. If you want a fair fight then both gunships should be taken out of the engagement.
I assume that if the Chief were to end up on a unknown planet with Samus on it he would have ventured their with an overhaul of extra ammunition. A similar instance is indicated in a Halo level the Truth and Reconciliation as the Master chief started with 3 times the amount of maximum ammunition for his sniper on the level. So Going to an unknown planet thought to might contain Covenant resistance I'm sure he would come with 3 times the maximum ammunition for his battle rifle and sniper. and if he needed plasma rifles to destroy Samus's energy sheilding he would call for a hotdrop of 2 plasma rifles (which he can dual wield) and the reason that is possible is because the Elites separated from the Covenant and joined the UNSC so he could get weapons like plasma rifles, Energy Swords, plasma pistols, needlers and plasma grenades hotdropped. Not to mention is that if Samus were to get to close for comfort he would either throw a fragmentation grenade or stick her with a Plasma Grenade or brute Spike grenade. But assuming that both gunships are remover from the fight I would assume the UNSC before sending him to the Unknown Planet would at least send him extra weapons near his starting location just in case he needed different weapons (Plasma Rifle) or extra ammunition an example of this is the Halo 2 Level Delta Halo. I also forgot to mention that if Samus were closing in on him he can overcharge a Plasma Pistol and shoot a large bolt from it that instantly depletes energy shields no matter how well charger they are. (even fully depletes overshields) and to ensure the target doesn't escape the bolt effectively follows it's target leaving Samus open for a fatal headshot.
"Samus' gunship is in possession of cloaking technology that let's it easily avoid scans and radars, even when flying in enemy territory and space. she designed it herself." Everything releases a heat signature and that's how the motion tracker detects invisible enemies, Master chief's gunship has a far more advance motion tracker than his own so his gunship would easily destroy Samus's probably before the cloaking can be even engaged and if she somehow pulled it off she still could be seen by the ship's motion tracker an taken down by the ship's AI guided Mac Blasts.
"2-Grapple voltage, if anything nearby has energy, Samus can Syphon it to restore her own, including his shields.
Machines, walls of energy, even some creatures she's been able to drain of energy."
Before she even had the chance to attack him with that she would either be hit by a barrage of dual wielded Plasma rifle plasma bolts or hit with an overcharged shot from a Plasma Pistol. Besides he would easily avoid it if she came near him with it. He runs up to 65 miles an hour.
"Crystal flash: considering method 1 she can do this as many times as she wants so she'd only need to call her gunship after either extensive" Her gunship would have been shot repeatedly by UNSC Aegis Fate 's Incoming MAC blasts and effectively destroyed her ship completely. Crystal flash wouldn't even be an option anyways She would have to have 10 super missiles, 11 power bombs, and less than 30 units of energy she would quickly use too much of one of her weapons. Manga or any other comic book I almost always consider cannon anyway.
"During metroid fusion her DNA was mixed with a metroids, this allowed her to absorb the normally horridly lethal X parasite." like you said it is disregardable because I never seen the ability return in the sequel to the game i assume it was lost or never existed.
"Plasma never been really all that effective against Samus, mean Ridley fires beams of plasma that punches through meters thick wall and it still barely harms the powersuit." That would be Ridley's plasma fire versus Halo's, Halo's plasma weaponry are exclusive to the Covenant and based upon Forerunner technology. The Forerunner's were the most advanced race in the galaxy lasted over 200,000 years plus. Their downfall was them activating the Halo ring killing themselves off to stop the flood from feeding so that they starved to death. The Forerunners however left much of their technological superiority around the galaxy allowing the Covenant to replicate the incredibly advance technology although not perfectly but as best they could. Thus the Halo plasma weaponry is far more advanced than Ridley's showing that the shield draining effect of the Plasma would more than likely apply to Samus as well. "Phazon is several time more powerful than Plasma, even without phazon protective specific suits her armor holds up very well against." Against the Forerunner replicated plasma technology? I think not, I believe that Samus would probably be even more effected by the plasma fire than the chief himself because his suit was made with both UNSC and Covenant technology in mind besides the Forerunner's were eons more advanced than the Chozo. Their weapon and defense systems were so great that the Covenant could only partially recreate the technology.
"Another thing, how would he know to bring a Plasma rifle? not commom for him to assume to bring, especially against someone he doesn't know, let alone understand the extent of her abilities, less so her equipment considering it's like nothing he's ever experienced fighting before." Either his gunship would hotdrop it or it would be at his landing point when he was dropped at the planet.
"Her Stacked beam (in Metroids, Super, Fusion, and Corruption(to a MUCH lesser extent) and Zero mission her beam weapons stack together) would decimate his shielding even quicker than Covenant plasma weapons. rapid fire, no overheating or reloading, infinite (so endless), beam's got a 3 foot radius because it's actually 3 rotating beams, and in unhindered by terrain (goes through walls" Since the chief can run 65 miles an hour and has a reaction time of 20 milliseconds he would easily avoid the beam, get behind her and either melee her in the head or stick her with a plasma grenade, Their was a beam similar to that in Metroid Prime 3, you couldn't easily turn around.
"her speed is Super sonic, no joke it's even in the Manual. ever heard of the speed booster? allows Samus to run at incredible speeds, normally allowing her to plow through enemies or walls of rock and metal with no resistance (I mean, depends on the wall but rocks and metal non the less" Master Chief also runs at incredible speeds although not as fast as Samus nut still fast and his reaction time is 20 milliseconds so he easily would avoid anything she tried to do to him with that tactic. His reaction time I will state is more than likely much faster than hers. She only exhibits incredible speed not incredible reaction time.
"CQB would be the place he wants to avoid most. Samus' screw attack would make pretty much anything less than a gravity hammer stupid. unlike the metroid prime version, the real she just needs to jump and stay in the air, and with the real space jump, she could do this indeterminately, it would also render her immune too basically anything non explosive or super powerful (like Spartan laser Esq or at the very least a Fuel-rod cannon)" The latest game she has been in was Metriod prime 3 and since she has lost the ability to jump indefinitely she cannot rely on this tactic but if she were going to use this tactic, she would more than likely be stuck with a plasma grenade.
"Power bombs just make getting within a 15-20 foot sphere around her a bad Idea." Power bombs were pathetic in Metriod Prime 3, hardly even worth using.
"though you keep claiming He'd dodge her attacks, she's also proven to be a sharp shooter, and a ace of evasion, very likely to evade all his as well. super human trained + genetic enhancement since she was 3 years old WHILE being trained by an advanced alien race has it's benefits".
I'm sure she would dodge a couple bullets but her reaction time doesn't even compare to his. Besides Master Chief only has to worry about dodging her energy attacks which are much slower than bullets, Samus has to worry about his plasma fire and bullet fire. She obviously would get hit more including the fact that she is a somewhat larger target. Her training by alien race and genetic enhancements are insignificant compared to the chiefs.
Her genetic enhancement is the infusion of chozo blood.
His enhancements include 1.Carbide ceramic ossification: Advanced material: special metal and ceramic layers, grafting onto skeletal structure to make bones virtually unbreakable. 2.Muscular enhancement injections: Protein complex is injected intramuscular, to increase tissue density and decrease lactate recovery time. 3.Catalytic thyroid implant: Platinum pellet containing human growth hormone catalyst is implanted in the thyroid to boost growth of skeletal and muscle tissues. 4. Occipital capillary reversal: Submergence and boosted blood vessel flow beneath the rods and cones of subjectβs retina. Produces a marked visual perception increase. 5.Superconducting fabrication of neural dendrites: Alteration of bio-electrical nerve transduction to shielded electronic transduction. Three hundred percent increase in subjectβs reflexes. Anecdotal evidence of marked increase in intelligence, memory, and creativity. The augmentations were so intense that very few survived the process.
Samus training was by the chozo race by age of 3 which is considerable but the chief's although it started at the older age of 7 was far more brutal usually consisted of intense workouts that if failed would be subjugated to further intense training and afterwards were sent on incredibly difficult training missions, example, When he was eight years old, he sent on a training mission in which they were dropped over a forest located deep in one of Reach's snow-capped mountain ranges and expected to get safely to their extraction Pelican. Might I mention he was picked for the Spartan program because he was an ideal physical and mental candidate, being only 1 of the 150 candidates for the program and was one out of the 14 Spartans that survived the augmentations unscathed. He had far better conditioning to say the least.
"as for the frozen weapons. Ice beam can usually coat the entire body of the 7 foot tall Space pirates (actually, freezes them totally through to the point you can shatter them) Diffusion missiles on the other hand, the missile would do serious damage, even if it missed, the non lethal 20 foot blast radius pretty much coats everything caught within in Ice except Samus because of the Varia suit fuction. any weapon him would be frozen, including himself, Naturally he could brake the ice off." He could simply get a new weapon by either the hot drop or near his landing point.
Besides he would easily avoid the ice (consider anything that isn't bullet speed having a 85% chance of avoidance for him). and another note, the Covenant weapons like plasma rifles and others are based upon the legendary Forerunner technology and although not fully replicated the weapons can still resist considerable damage enough to resist the freezing for sure.
"facts you are neglecting.
-Samus is super human, Speed, strength, reflexes, etc. and goes toe-to-toe with enemies vastly superior to human who have a 30-40 year combat record. even if he was superior, not enough for to compensate for her armor's abilities."
The Chief has Strength that is far past her own. In agility Samus would probably would beat him due to the booster but 65 miles an hour is still considerable. Reflexes I know for a fact are faster that hers. and Samus only has about a 10-12 combat record at best as compared to the chief has about a 20 year combat record.
"Samus' if from far in much more advanced universe, weapons that generate multiple tera watts of power barely damage her."
Untrue, although Samus's world may seem more advanced the UNSC were direct descendants from the Forerunners, a species so advanced they could accelerate the evolution of intelligent life as they did with their decadents, the humans on Earth, which explains how they are able to hold back the covenant and resist with technology that is inferior to the covenants, a race that bases all their technology off the Forerunners. In short if the Metriod world were to declare war on the Forerunners the Metriod world would quickly fall as the Forerunners have existed for 200,000 plus years and had the ability to manipulate gravitational forces, create AI with full sentience, fabricate super-dense materials, perform super-accurate Slipspace navigation and the ability to create worlds, planets ect and as I said the Humans in that world were descendants of the Forerunners.
"her stand alone (metroid prime 1) Plasma beam can completely reduce to ash several; 7 foot tall alien, with all it's armor and weapons in a single shot. easily more effective than Covenant plasma weapons. her, along with an enemy or two, can move at super sonic speeds, plasma weapons that don't run out of energy." Covenant base their technology of the Forerunners and thus are far more advanced than Samus's weaponry, plasma weapons can be easily recharged if you were on the covenant side.
"again, hit and run isn't going to work so well, nowhere to run that she can catch him or find him. especially when he's more at risk as it takes much less to kill him."
He is near her own speed and her weapons are considerably slower than bullets. His reaction time is much faster as well.
"Samus could also pull off the hit and run, her increased speed, jumping ability, flight, etc gives her more opportunities to take advantage of the surrounding area's" He could dodge her attacks with ease with what I said above.
"he isn't outlast her. she's going to overwhelm him, not with strength, however.
I mean, Samus has seen and fought things he couldn't even imagine" He has fought the Flood which not only are horribly disturbing but attack in huge waves and are a horribly vicous race. "he doesn't have anything specialy that she hasn't already dealt with"
He has also destroyed covenant scarabs which could utterly destroy anything from Samus' world with one charge from it's main cannon."Chief to Samus on the other hand, chief has NO experience with anything like Samus or her abilities, her armor does a un-realistically more than he would ever assume it could because most of them aren't even physically manifested all the time. worse yet Samus is going to have a detailed file on his armor's capabilities, weapons, physical abilities because of the scan visor. heck she's going to know he's super human, and if she had enough time even what was done to him to make him super human (considering it can do biological scans as well)"
He has Cortana, a Sentient AI that has a huge wealth of knowledge, enough to actually hack into Samus's suit and provide battle information regarding Samus and could even disable Samus's scan visor. She could do exactly what Samus Scan could but more, she increases chief reaction time even further while she is in his suit and would advise him what weapons would most affect her.
"he's pretty much outclassed because he's insanely gunned, doesn't have the same durability, has a lot more limits." He has faster reaction, Has a all-knowing powerful AI that can hack into virtually any computer electronic system and with Cortana he can easily outsmart Samus. He is however less resistant than Samus, I will give you that.
As for the hate on Halo 3, many people due it because of how much everyone praises it and how successful it is. Metroid fanboys still bug me but I already said what needed to be said about them. The gaming forum I go to I see nothing about Halo hate however I see alot of people complain abou Halo fans and Metroid fans alike.
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I find Metroid to have a lot of replay value, but I suppose it depends on your tastes. Metroid is more of a 1-person game, while Halo has vastly more multiplayer replay value. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
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I would bet that Samus would. Well, if you ever play brawl and do Samus's Zero Laser (her Final Smash) then people might think differently. Then again, it is sometimes hard to sweep the beam up and down. BUT (it's a big but) everything behind her (and sometimes above the beam) gets sucked into it. So yeah, Samus would win.
"Snake, what's happening?! Snake! SNAKE!!!!!!!" (random qoute from METAL GEAR SOLID series and secret death yell from brawl *omg*)
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