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This is another picture of Assisi I made a few years ago.Belive it or not, this is a side street in Assisi's center
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FLO99 In reply to Basty007 [2010-04-25 22:45:43 +0000 UTC]
Thank youa again. Assisi is a beatiful city, espercially now in spring.
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Voldy-pet [2007-12-03 22:27:13 +0000 UTC]
Yey! It's so beautiful antique!
It must be wonderful where you live.
Hey these flowers are they roses?
Wow!
You can't find this harmony of amazing nature and city in our town.
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FLO99 In reply to Voldy-pet [2007-12-04 13:28:33 +0000 UTC]
thanks and thank you for the fav
Yeah it is but unluckyly these harmony is only present in this part of the city, where it's quite. You won't belive me when i tell you that the rest of the city is dirty right? but it is xD
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Voldy-pet In reply to FLO99 [2007-12-08 08:47:37 +0000 UTC]
Oh well.
Every Part on earth has his shadow-side
It's a gift to see only the positive sides of it.
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FLO99 In reply to Voldy-pet [2007-12-10 13:42:19 +0000 UTC]
yeah you are right! its sad actually because the most a thing is beatifull the greater is his shadow side. You can see this in the great cities and even on people, thas why you are always shoked when you descover it O_o.
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Voldy-pet In reply to FLO99 [2007-12-20 19:09:25 +0000 UTC]
What do you mean with "you can see this in the great cities and even on people"
I like the peoples in Italy, they have all a special italian touch, here every guy's a punk, a Gotic-guy, a bitch, a buisness-guy etc.
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FLO99 In reply to Voldy-pet [2007-12-21 13:15:20 +0000 UTC]
oh well, what i meant is that people here have two faces. One they show to the public and the other they show to their friends when you aren't around. I heard that there is a rumor going around saying that catholic are academic lies and who ever said it must have thought of Italy or at least about the central-north regions of it. I can tell you from personal experience thatpeople here then do go to the church every sunday and confess and once out of it they start to lie all over again O_o.
As I came to Perugia and meet people from the south ( Sicilia, Napoli ecc.) I saw that they are of a whole different mind then the ones I meet before. You won't belive it but they all are way more open and friendly and even more tollerant. My family and I are Christian Protestant and in our city people consider us Atheist for this Oo!!
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Voldy-pet In reply to FLO99 [2007-12-30 15:21:09 +0000 UTC]
Hey, that's very interesting what you have to tell me oO
I must say here, I met catholics with more sympathy than protestants. Because, when I was in DMS-class I had a schoolmate who was protestant, and sometimes she totaly annoyed me the way she talked about god and everything. I thought she might be the most naive person I've ever met.
But today I think It has nothing to do with religion, but about personality, and I must say... I like every kind of religion, as long as they're keep going their way without being fanatic. Religion shouldn't be a Fandom, It should be a way of going this life, the best way we can.
And for sure... I'm a bit shocked what I heart about catholics since I'm on that new school, and what you tell me that makes me disappointed.
Protestants are NEVER atheists.
Atheist comes from "anti"& "theos"=anti-god
So,If you believe in God, you can't be an Atheist.
Btw. what do you think about "Jehovas witness"?
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FLO99 In reply to Voldy-pet [2007-12-30 19:13:04 +0000 UTC]
You know what? I think the same as you do. I don't dislike other religions but think they are interesting because, like you said, they are all a way of going your life. That's why I don't like fanastist also, because they mostly make you go they way they do and make you feel bad if you don't.
You know, here I must say that many people in my hometown could be called sort of fanatist. As I started my studies in Perugia and lived in an apartment with other Italian students, they didn't make me feel bad or different at all because I'm not Catholic but instead where curious about it, and now we even make jokes about the differences in our religions. So I think that not all Catholic are like the ones I know at home !
And you know another think that I discovered shortly? People now here at home are convinced I'm Atheist more then my parents because I study a scientific subject. That is a very Middle Aged way of thinking don't you think? And the funny thing about is that my roomates in Perugia think the same way as I do, and they all come from souther regions ( Rome, Sicilia) x).
what do they tell about Catholic in Switzerland?
Jehovas witness? To tell you the trueth, I don't know much about them, they aren't many here in my region. But I heard that they are also Christian but take some aspects of it differently, like the trynity and the concept of Jesus. That's also why many people here consider it to be a sect rather then a Religion, but then again, they also consider Protestant to be Atheist so there is not much to take on that x).
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Voldy-pet In reply to FLO99 [2008-01-01 10:09:57 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you see it the same way I do
Yeah, that's cool I think younger persons aren't that narowed like the older persons, If they talk about religion, especially If you like this other person.
LOL more atheist because of studying in sience?XD That's really middle-aged, I never knew people can still think like this, in our times.
In my religion it's totaly different, people always say: "science with religion? That won't work." But It does! If you use science& historic holy scripts like the bible you may find so much similarities beetween them, you may see everything clearer than before, you may understand everything better
Uh... I have no idea what the generality thinks of catholics here in Switzerland.
I think the most of the people just think of them as christians, and If you ask them for christians the most of them say:"christians are fools and idiots".
Yes, Basel and a lot cities in Switzerland are protesants but that's just what's written in their dossiers. The truth is, the most of them are atheists.
So I don't know what's better living under fanatic catholics or under atheists.
I think I prefer atheists XD
A very good friend of mine's also catholic and she's visiting the church sometimes, and she's religous, but sometimes she told me that she thinks some parts of the bible doesn't tell the trueth, and she does'nt listen to things the pope says,... so... I think most of catholics here, don't even know what they belive in.
Hehe! I see! Here It's the same, the people tell Jehovas witness is a sect.
Well, I don't know much about that, but I have two very good friends in church who were born in religion of jehovas witness and went away from that religion. And If I ask them to talk about Jw, they just roll the eyes and look at you like "Oh,plz don't ask me. I won't tell you nice things". XD
But what I think is a positive point of JW... they do what they preach.
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FLO99 In reply to Voldy-pet [2008-01-01 17:49:47 +0000 UTC]
Happy New Year to you!!!!!!!
lol guess who's birthday was yesterday ?
Oh yes, old people sure are more narrowed then young ones. They are also way more obsesserd about knowing other people's private life then we are XD.
yes! I totally think the same. science can help you understand things better and see the world clearer. and there are many similarities between what science and the bibble says, even if they don't say it using the same words, it's there! But here people are so....anti scientific. if you would say thouse things to them they would only smile at how stupid you are or think you totally lost it. And then there is still another behave some people have that is very middle aged. They bahave very respectfully with people who have a higher rang in society then them (for are for example doctors, engineers, directors exc...), I mean even between friends they still talk to them in third person and carry their baggages. How old aged is that O_o?
My Catholic friends are religious and belive in the bibble and the pope but they don't go to the church so often saying they dislike it because it became a 'show of' going there, intending that people go there not only to listen to the priest but also to show theirs newest clothing and talk about one another.
yeah, that's true. the JW do home visites and are said to be also strict on theirs belive. But are they really so bad x) ?
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Voldy-pet In reply to FLO99 [2008-01-01 19:52:48 +0000 UTC]
Oh yes! O__O It was Voldy's Birthday!!! I totaly forgot it 8D
LOOOL That sounds like old Italians are stalking their own grandchildrens XD
I absolutely agree
Oh, well... that's why I had a bit problems with that protestant-girl in my class. I often talked to her about stuff between science& religion, for example the history in "Genesis" about the world-creation, and what are the similarities. And that science always says it could not be true because the world was made by a bigbang, but the story of the bible and the science are nearly the same.
But she always talked to me like it's stupid stuff, what I said.
She always thought the world was made with magic or something.
And that totaly annoyed me.
LOL carrying the baggages of doctors? But some of them are scientists, aren't they?XD
You know, in Hungary and in Japan they act the same way.
My aunt hates the boyfriend of my older cousin because he's poor, but she loves the boyfriend of my younger cousin because she has doctor-parents and they are rich :/
Orly? I understand what you mean. I think I would do the same If the people there would act like that :/
I was on a catholic whorship here, but I enjoyed It. There were only 7 Persons there, and we were sitting together and the priest read some parts in the bible and sang in latin. It was interesting and beautiful, but I wouldn't go there every sunday.
Nono, the aren't bad, they just have another point of view than us
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FLO99 In reply to Voldy-pet [2008-01-03 00:08:16 +0000 UTC]
LOL I almost too, but then I passed throught Portkey that day and guess what? They wished him a Happy Birthday XDDDD!
Oh my stanking is a good word to describe them. You see, for most of the old population here-mostly woman- their life is not enought so they begin to stick their nouse in other people's and if they*like me xD* don't want to share their private life with they make up some drammatic story because ,logically, why wouldn't other people want to share with them their most private business x)?
Oh my, taht totally sounds like some of my old classmates too. I once told some of them the same thing about the big bang and what it's written in the bibble but they just looked at me as if i was retarded. It's so frustrating especially if these people are the ones beliving that everything around them was made out of magic, you wonder sometimes if they really undestand where the babies comes from Oo or think that they came out of thin air.
lol really, in Hungary and Japan too? I always thought Japan was one of the more modern thinking Lands on this. But I know what you mean, My neighbours hated her daughters boyfriend too because he didn't want to the University like her children but already began to work. In this region especially doctors or engineers are highly seem by society. Oh and the best comes still, here people highly prefers males over females. And boys are highly spoiled. I know boys older then me that still can't cook or put their clothes on a baggages because they have their mother or sister that do that for them.And obviously male have to be SMARTER then women so if there is a woman around who could compare to them or starts doing 'male' stuff she is considered annormal. do people in basel think the same or is this also a middle aged life style that only people of citta di castello have?
Something I noticed Protestants are different then catholic is that when you go to church the pastor speaks about the bibble and the new testament making also references about things that are happening in the world at the moment like global warming, war, terrorism ecc. The priest instead just reads a few passeges from the bibble and that was it. It's so ....impersonal .It's really a discurs that could be made at any time, or now or in 10 years it doesn't make a difference because he doesn't speak directly to the people, doesn't involve them at all, and i think that's kind of sad sometimes.
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Voldy-pet In reply to FLO99 [2008-01-04 19:07:24 +0000 UTC]
LOL to bad he's a bit to dead to send a nice thanku to Portkey XD
Ow,ow oO I think I would have a nice connection with those old people cause I've no need to have secrets, but I guess my life's too boring to share with somebody XD
I see you understand what I mean That makes me really lucky!
But there not only christian wich have such a pigheaded meaning of the worlds creation or else.
There are some very stupid atheists wich are saying "Christians are such idiots and everything the bible says 's a foolish fairytale". But they don't even no what the bible says, and If you tell them to read it and think of it, they act like they are to good for it.
Boys smarter then girls?O__O
LOOOOOL that's really totaly oldfaishoned... don't even in Hungary you have it like this.
No, In Basel the most of the Girls are wanting to make a career o__O
Err... what you said about the differences beetween protestants and catholics... I do not agree everything you said. You must know there are lot's of protestant-religions f ex. Baptism, Reform, Methodists ...
and they all have different preachers and they do their lessons on their own way. Some of them believe in gay-marriage and some of them not.
For ex. I visited one time the catholic-classes in my school,cause my friend was from spain and she was catholic. And there the teacher showed the whole lesson a movie of the situation in Irak.
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FLO99 In reply to Voldy-pet [2008-01-06 13:45:47 +0000 UTC]
lol you think he would? send a thank you to some inferior muggles XD! But at least he would be a bit flattered . Hey, do you think the DEs celebrate his B-day?
ohhhhhhhh! Don't worry about this, The life you live in THEIR eyes is NOT so boring at all. You know, I sometimes hear things about myself that I'm not even aware I did XD like for example having a secret relationship with a mysterious man or being held at home by my mean German dad. So don't worry, if your life is boring people will bring up things about you to make it seem less because I mean, your live can't be...normal can it? There must be some scandal people can talk about right xD?
Oh my really? I didn't have the pleasure to meet people like this yet but they seem to be so very smart and allknowing. How can you tell you don't agree or like a thing if you don't even know what it is? These people are really vain *shokes head*. And they are also of the kind that becomes angry with you once they realize they are wrong and try to change argument when realizing the are loosing face. I really dislike such people but sudly there are many of these kind around here.
LOL really? I'm so glad you say this because people always give me strange looks when they realize my first priority is not at all grounding a family and becoming a devoted I-do-all-house-work woman. Here there are some girls who also want to have carrer but most of them want to marry after finishing studing or school and grounding a family. And I personally think it a bit sad because you wold waste kind of all the hard work you did if you want to be a housewife for all your life .
Oh no I didn't mean it like that. I was referring to the priests here and not at the catholicchurch in general. You know, my parents have catholic friends and so on Christmas they fo attend the christmas speech the priest does in our local church and it's always the same every year with no new references or anything, but people keep insisting that the speechs the priest do here are world refered and modern. and it's this I couldn't see or undestand because there were no referenced of what happends around the world like I'm used to when I attend a pastord speech but just references to people or events that happends a long long time ago in the past. That is what I was referring.why, how are your church speechs?
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Voldy-pet In reply to FLO99 [2008-01-14 22:00:35 +0000 UTC]
Hi! I'm so sorry, my vaccations ended up and last week I was only working for school and church, so I hadn't a lot of time.
Well, I think Voldies one of that people which don't want to celebrate his own birthday, especially to regret that he's already 70 8D
But the DE will do it anyhow XD
Ah, I see XD Must be pretty amusing to hear some other people talk about a kind of your life you've never heart of.
Oh, a secret relationship, why didn't you tell me?
You didn't?Wow, you lucky! Are there lot of atheists where you live?8D
I would love If it would be normal here to talk over god.
Here you think twice before you say the sense:"thank god" because 95% of the people here have the motto: "God's dead".
Well, I see... one of my very good mates talked to me very often about "Women should do a career, and not waste their talents by getting mother or housewife."
Well... that might be that you can't excercise your knowledge, but on the other hand you can impart it to your childrens and that's a good investement, because they are the future.
And I don't think being a mother is a waste, because, stuff you learn by getting children and educate them untill they are adults will be one of the greatest challenge. And If you manage this at least you will have more than a good job, lot of money, a big house or personal freedom. I think the job "mother" is one of the best jobs you could do and If I would get the chance I would take it, even I would get the chance to study at the Art-school.
You should know I love treasureing experiences of life, more thang anything
I think I understand what you mean... they talk about the story of the bible or sth, but they don't refer it on real life?
Oh...different sorts xD You must know... our members are having the speeches. And I'm sometimes doing some classes after Communion-meetings and sunday school.
As told... in Communion-meeting's is every member in the same room and then some speecher do some speechs about half an hour, then we split in children-,teenage-,young-adults and old-member- sundayclasses and there the teacher talks and discusses with us about the holy scriptures (last year we had new testamony).
And at last but not least we have classes... childrens together, girls together, boys together, women together, men together. And there every month we have a special classes where young womens are together, and there... I'm the teacher... 8D
... I know... very confusing, right?XD
How are your church classes? Do you visit them often?
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FLO99 In reply to Voldy-pet [2008-01-25 15:09:07 +0000 UTC]
Sorry for the looooong reply, to tell you the trueth I wrote it 3 times because the Energy went of twince and so the reply got longer and longer XD.
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FLO99 In reply to Voldy-pet [2008-01-25 15:01:47 +0000 UTC]
lol ok but sometimes you seem like you disappeared from Earth x).
Yeah, the DE's would just love to do a party for him, especially Bella and Lucius XD because it would get them maybe back at his good side! And i think the Lord would appreciate presents because he, like Harry, never got any untill he went to Hogwards I think.
Oh it surely is, especially if they talk behind your back beliving you are deaf . Sometimes you feel like being in some comedy show like Desperate Housewifes, it just amuses you that people belive you would be either deaf or stupid and are therefor shocked when you notice them speaking.
Oh i'm sorry I didn't told you about my secret relationship but you see, it's so secret that even I didn't know anything about it x)!
well, in my hometown there aren't many atheist but in perugia you will find many especially under the science and phylosophical department. So people aren't so wrong with thinking that people who study math don't belive in God or in any supernatural things. But still, not all *raises hand* are like that. But the worst kind you will find in phylosophy. I have friends who study language and who share the same building with the phylosophy students and once they got in a hard debat about God and the World and to everything they said they got answers like " God doesn't exist" or " If God exist why are there wars" or " you are so naive!". Does that sound familiar to you?
I know and I also love to treasure experiences of life . Infact I started to download
and save on DVDs cartoons i watched as i was a child (like George, Spank, Lady Oscar) because i noticed that the cartoons of today are shit and i would like kids to watch the shows i loved to watch so much as i was a child . I have a little cousin and i can't wait untill he is old enought to see them! But still I personally think it would be best to finish study and work for a while before starting a family because you didn't sweat and study for nothing right? Plus, you would earn money to buy yourself a home and be independant and wouldn't it be also wonderful to start your mother life from here?
Well the problem is that they refer to ancient events and say to people still think or would do the same. I mean you can't say that Latin principles and lifestle are the same as today. People think differently now, and would be better if priest would refer to events of today and not of ones that happend 2000 years ago and say we would still act and think the same way. That is what I think is not quite right.
Wow, you are a teacher? that is great 8D, then you are very active there . I have to disappoint you but I don't go to any church classes because there aren't any here where I could go to. The only church classes are the chatolic ones but they are for children who will have communion. After that there aren't any classes or meeting. I know what you mean, my grandmother in germany told me about such classes where you could go on the afternoons or weekends to discuse religions themes with the pastor or older people of the comunity, my grandmother goes there every weekend, she is part of the class of older pleople
. I they might be similar to the ones you attend to. But here in Italy it's different, because here for people( at least the ones in my hometown) it is more then enought to go to church ones a week and be done with it. So there aren't any classes or Communion-meetings.
Ah btw, do you know the series Neon Genesis Evangelion? It's a series that will start here Italy on mtv next week x) and i heard it's pretty famous, the most loved anime show of the 90ies because it's dar and very psycological. Plus it has also many religious references as well as references about the human nature. I saw a few episodes and thought it's pretty interesting and i think you might like it too since like me you like the themes they are refering to . [link] Here is the link of the fist Episode in English, I couldn't find any in german or with subtittles but it shouldn't be so difficult to undestand
. There are robots in it but they actually MAKE sense and aren't some wonder tecnology made out of thin air with no money x) and it will surprise you to know why they were built and why they have to fight.
Ah and another thing, since you are a fan of romantic comedy *like me !* and once told me about there funny manga you read about a girl getting her revange I thought you might know Kare Kano, which is also romantic comedy but has as main theme there relationship*getting together and after* between two teens. It's very funny, they showed it on tv recently and guess what? I found the GERMAN version of it
give it a look if you have time, your humor would approve of it . [link]
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