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oil on canvas june 2009Thanks to Alexandra for the reference!!!
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Uy salamat nang marami!
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magaling ka naman talaga eh! idol!
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Hmmm, you know, just thinking through all the comments here, who ever would have thought a picture of a girl in front of a farm house would spark such controversy?
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gromyko, you also have taste in portraiture? sounds good because portraiture is my favorite branch in art... by the way u mean its sometimes boring? well you got a point,, copying photograps is sometimes boring unless you fell you are limited to it
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ok gromyko.. peace be with you and your surreal art...
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Hey Ivan, beautiful work throughout - the serenity of the composition is aptly matched by your sensitive and deft treatment..
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Thank you very much sir Denis! As always i am very much in love with your new work!
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I loooove your texture in this one, it gave me a much needed smile...
and it's almost like I feel, or at least sense, the breeze going through that field.
I wonder what it is that she is longing for?
Lovely.
Do you have these in a gallery?
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Thanks Justin! i am glad you like it.
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To all the Fans and Friends of Ivan Roxas
I publickly apologize that my comment was misunderstood and was taken as an insultive deregatory statement, which isnt really its true nature but a constructive criticism of the work with which Ivan here is presenting. My opinions are mine alone and need not worry the creator at the first place...my problem is that i vocally told it to him not knowing he would take this as a personal attack...it isnt...I love Ivan's creation...for those who did not know, i wanted to include one of his work to an international book i am writting,have i not loved or liked his work i wouldnt waste my time asking ivan to please submit...but circumstances was he isnt able due to low res photo of the work...i told him im saddened because he wouldnt be with us in the book...im actually trying to show the world what kind of painters live the country...
if my statements are offensive, if my "preachings" are too long for all of you to read or too close minded for you to understand its your problem not mine, but i speak with authority from experience and acclaim...im not trying to compete here, im not even saying my work is greater than him...that is a shallow reasoning...my angst against the decadent movement known as photorealism have actual basis and is acclaimed not only by me but authorities who know that what i speak is shared with them...but it is not to attack ivan...it is a constructive criticism...in the first place this would have been transformed into an arena of intellect, have Ivan ignored my word..in my first Comment i am remarking how "great his work is and how great his skill is, and when i said im worried about your subject but thats just me, Your work transcends photorealism...never mind my worries, you create great works"
i wish that by this public apology all angst and narrow accusation about me my art and my stance as an artist will stop...
God be the judge of all
let there be peace
Gromyko
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You know you're the biggest hypocrite that I've encountered. Congrats. You're apologizing here but you made a poll about this. [link]
"such adolescent behaviour from someone who is of a caliber here in my country" --and I thought you already apologized, backstabbing too soon?
"then he gathered his minions to bombard me with nonsensical unlearned declarations...that made me smile, still they wont let me be, i already publicly apologize but their ego is as high as everest" --Oh my, I think it's the other way around, you're the egotistic one here. In Ivan's deviation alone, you told how you are internationally renowned, that you belong in this art circle, you know history, blah blah blah. You made this deviation as your resumΓ©. If you can't see that then open your eyes!
Oh and sorry ha, we don't have your glorious brain. It's more amazing kasi if people will prove something for themselves first before they give lectures and seriously you don't have enough merits below your belt to do that. No offense, just an observation.
You know, I don't really care about your opinions on photorealism, who are you anyways, but preaching your views is hella annoying. And preaching your views on a realism work is too much. If you're truly worried about Ivan's subjects you could've just noted him, but you let others see your lecture. And I think you're smart enough to know that people who visits Ivan's page are mostly fans of realism, not just Ivan's work but realism, then you go here and unload your photorealism is not art bullcrap. You should've expected this instead of whining about it in your poll.
AND PLEASE GET YOUR FACE OUT OF THE POPE'S PICTURE. IT'S OFFENSIVE. [link]
Seriously, why do you think so highly of yourself? Who gave you the right to act so high and mighty? Is it your merits? Those were not enough. Are your works at the Louvre?
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hahahahahahahah you made me laugh...first off i made the poll while ivan and i are debating, so it was posted at that time...pasensya kana...hahahaha...ivan and i are reconciled so please tama na...we talked and made our points well and we are friends...
talk about merits...hahahahaha
ooooh your being offended ...well you must read my treatises on the bullshit of the papaqcy and the evils and hyppocitical history of catholicism...please before you sermon me know who you are talking with otherwise i'll just laugh at what you are saying...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
you talk as if the merits goes only to the people who can make photorealistic works and works that deserve merit are the ones in the louvre...that is very narrow minded of you...god have mercy on you narrow soul...your understanding is quite funny to me...
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You really are an idiot no? Magpapalusot ka pa e yung comment na pinaste ko was made at a later time. Wow. The poll was created some weeks ago but your comments were a few hours after the apology! And if you really wanted this to end why the new deviation?
"know who you are talking with" And an ego has landed for the nth time. LOL. My question still stands, who died and made you God? Who are *YOU* to feel that you're high and mighty? Who are *YOU* to put your face on the Pope's? Ah yeah, you questioning the pieces at Louvre is expected of course. Hail the mighty Gromyko. He knows everything, that makes us mere mortals (realists specifically) idiots. Before you try to sound deep and be EASILY influenced by what you have read, get a spelling and grammar book first.
Btw, I didn't say anything about giving merit only to photorealistic works, that's not even implied. Now who's being narrow-minded? Look at yourself first ok? 'Cos the last time I checked, you're the one who's pressing your views here.
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i object your honor....this calls for a celebration then...the apotheosis of gromyko as an egoistic god...my goodness you have no idea how i am playing you around with my word plays...hahaha...you dont deserve an explanation...why? because you dont even deserve it...it is like an anteater eating himself...hahaha...of a donut with a hole in its hole, the problem is the hole is already a hole so why bore it? hahahaha....i am gromyko, i can put my face anywhere i want...i take take that back, i wont dare put my face on yours, my face wouldnt be able to stick on your head because it is so fragile that even the face of a dog wouldnt fit it, wait i think it could...hahaha...im terribly enjoying this...i already told you all of this nonsense ended with me and ivan at peace...but you guys just couldnt help but symphatise to an already finished debate...it wont be my fault if i answered you like this...please stop otherwise you'll be mutilated with sharp words you dont and couldnt even understand making you a fool
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Why would I want to hear your explanation? 
Wait wait wait?! You're playing with me? ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod!!! Talaga lang ha? Judging from the way you reply you're the one who looks "pikon" lol. And I'm not the one putting a pissed emoticon in my reply.
Actually, keep playing with your words, only you can understand and benefit from them anyways. You're also embarrassing yourself through this so I encourage you to do more.
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hahahaha...i love to be embarassed...i have been feeding from it for years...3 years here in deviantart have made me enjoyed the embarrasment from people like you...so go on...i dont mind what you'll say, you speak also as if i should listen to you...give me reason why i should head your advice...at least prove me...si ivan i could easily ask apology kasi i know he knows what we are talking, eh ikaw, who the hell are you....you know what i dont care about what you or any other people would say about what i am saying....id be glad pa nga dahil naeentertain ako...
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Who the hell are YOU? You're basically anonymous, you're just a self-glorifying airhead who thinks he's all that and unlike you I don't go around telling people of my accomplishments and I don't lecture people on how they should paint. 
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there it goes, you dont know me at all...if ever i glorify myself then thats huge...the problem is i dont...i just give my opinions wheter you all like it or not....and to talk about accomplishments, your the one who asked so i just humbly answered, i think there is no tone of arrogance by answering your questions, and yes, i met many of them in person...and also dont you worry i have been published also, hindi lang dito sa pinas, kung nagpapagalingan lang tayo eh eto sasabihin ko, im even authoring, or better yet co-editing a huge international collective of surreal,visionary, fantastic artists to be printed in poland, im the one who will wrote the introduction and it will include 100 of the best artists in the world!!! pero walang kwenta sakin yon, and akin lang i hate people na closeminded masyado, parang kinmentahan lang arogante na ko kaya di tayo umaasenso masyadong makitid utak natin...art is never always subjective, it must also be contextual and objective all at the same time...please i studied philosophy before i engaged thoroughly in art kaya kung pilosopohan lang usapan i would bubble up with polemics...im not even telling ivan or you how to paint, im merely questioning the method, the style of which photorealism had been...is it bad to question? i think we wouldnt have any new movement have the innovators of art dare not question not only the subject but also the subject of previous art movements...it will be like denying the heritage with which you came from...mukha yata kayo na ang academics sa point of view mo nayan...if you rebel agaisnt something such as photorealism you should have a good basis, i happen to have good basis and many people share my views...i stated my views not to irritate but to challenge, and it seems the idea is that it was taken the wrong way by people like you...puro respect pinagsasasabi nyo...if picasso respected his predecessors he wouldnt be picasso would he...im just learning to impose or should i say learning to think what others have thought and if my way of thinking troubles you then i cant do anymore but laugh...at least the humor is still in me
farewell
may photorealists decay in their own canvasses
Gromyko
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I think you missed the part where your opinions were asked. Who asked? Did someone asked? You freely gave away your criticisms without anyone asking for them. I think DA has a nice commenting system where people can know if the artist is asking for critiques di ba? And you made this into an achievement thing when it was not. Sinali mo pa mga surreal at history knowledge mo. Kahit 1000x mo pa yang achievements mo kahit naging si Rembrandt ka pa, you still don't have the right to force your views.
And since it seems like you're giving 'respect' less value here, wala ng patutunguhan to (nagiging lists na lang ng merits mo replies mo e.) We'll just have to stomach na ganyan ka talaga. So ok, keep on being like that. Have a nice life. Good bye.
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ok, dont worry d nman kta inoffend in someway sa mga sinulat ko, shinare ko lng ang views ko at wla nman nangyaring away sten haha gaya nga ng sbe ko hands down ako sa mga katulad nio ni ivan na kilala na sa international scene kya gudluck sa inyo at ipagkalat nio sa lahat na magagaling ang mga pinoy!
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i know, and to judge, you have an open mind at these kind of discussion...i admire your neutrality...i remain an admirer of ivan's work wether he likes it or not...i see a great future for your art...keep up the good works adrian...may the good lord bless your visions and make good use of it not just to show how great or how skillful you are but how your ART could change the world and the view of people about art
mabuahy si ivan at ang mga pinoy
g
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sorry kung "theboywhopaints" ang username ko, 4th yr college ako kya kht papano nkakarelate dn ako sa pnaguusapan nio, cgro tama c sir ivan kung dmo tlga trip ung gawa nia edi hinde, hndi nman siya magagalit kung gus2 mo o hndi eh kumbaga respect nlng cgro, mganda dn nman ung mga gawa mo pero iba ang trip mo sa trip ni ivan so hayaan nlng nten un matuwa na lng tau dahil maraming artist gaya ni ivan ang sumisikat sa international scene at cgro drating dn nman si ivan sa point na magiiba yan ng trip na kung sakali eh magugustuhan mo, so hintayin mo nlng un, wag nlng atat...haha
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hahaha! nakakatawa ka naman. pero tama yan. basta importante masaya lang tayo sa trip natin at di tayo nakaka-perwisyo nang ibang tao. mas tahimik ang buhay pag me respeto sa kapwa.
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hahaha bkt nman ser? gnawa ko lng ang part ko at cnbe ang point ko ^^ wish u all the best master!
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Master ka dyan!
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slamat po! sna mainterview ko kau sir pra sa thesis ko po! hehe sna may oras kau kht 1 araw lng boss! slamat!
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sure! inform mo lang ako when.. more power sa thesis!
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ivan, yung sa thesis defence, anu ba ang katanunngan ng mga panelist?
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what is love?
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ivan, how many days does your painting "Longing" take you to finish it?
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hindi lang nyo siguro nabasa yung sinabi ko kay ivan in my ,what do you guys call it long NOVEL, when i said maybe someday transformations may occur and it is not instantaneous, i adore ivan's work, its just that my personal worry have been taken off as an attack...if i didnt adore ivan i wouldnt invite him to be in a book of international importance which i am writting...if i dont like his art why would i dare convince him, and tell him i love his work...in the end im not even comparing my work with ivan's work, alam ko sinasabi ko adrian, i have mingled with older artists in the international scence and told them "IM WORRIED ABOUT THIS, IM WORRIED ABOUT THAT" and yet they take it not insultive...i even talked with one Art professor in England once and told him directly "It would be better if...." you see this is where the problem with us Pinoys...when under attack ayan kukuyugin yung person without even knowing the deeper sense involved in ti...ayoko na im just wasting my time here...binabaha na yung lugar namin, sana naman matigil nato, i have more important things to attend to than mere adolescent paranoia...
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sir idol, idedefend ko lang art mo, haha isa ka kasing malaking inspirasyon sa mga tiga UST at sa mga gustong maging artist gaya ko, for me, this is my opinion only you can agree if you want or disagree if you want either of the both i still respect you guys,ok photorealism...for me pursuing this so-called style would be a good background or a stepping stone in painting, i want to be a symbolist or a surrealist that still impose the proportions on figures, it would be hard for someone to make a good realism painting that could symbolize any emotion you want if you dont have the proper skills in realism? and thats where the photorealism will barge in, to educate the beginner artist of the basics in painting eventually he will learn and as time goes by that artist will try something new OR develop the skill he acquired to make his works more meaningful rather than the aesthetics point of the artwork itself. NOT ALL photo-realist wanted to be like that forever, if you know NORRIS CASTILLO a fine arts graduate of UE he is known as "Miniaturist in the Philippines" if i could only post Sir Norris's works here in DA you would see that he even pursued photorealism then actually evolve in cubism, abstractionism and now as a Miniaturist that paints landscapes or other subjects. Not all artist have in-born talent, like me i want to acquire that talent to be able to paint what i want, also other artist have their own unique ideas or style that set us apart from each other. i idolize sir roxas for his passion in his art, from the stories i heard in our college, he often stay in his own "CAVE" then come out in a month or couple of weeks with a really good painting. through that i can say that sir Ivan worked hard to achieve what he has achieve today and i admired his perseverance for that,
sabi nga nila,
"walang basagan ng trip"
sir ivan more power to you and to all filipino artists itaguyod naten ng sama sama ang obra ng mga pinoy!
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Salamat Adrian! I paint because painting makes me happy.That's all!
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the problem with most artist here in the philippines, well not all, is that they rate their art as TRIP ko lang kaya ko ginawa...aimlessness...such a nihilistic culture
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now tell me adrian...why do you think painting in a photorealism style is important in todays culture/situation? what particular aspect does this style impact us? if one is able to paint from photographs and be gloriously celebrated, what then? what is the purpose of this kind of art/to show the beauty of commonthings/ do you think this is the only aim of art, to simply show things that are rendered the same way as if photographed...that gives me an idea, let all cameras be destroyed and let all photorealists take their place...ooops can they capture underwater, in space?...hmmmm.....
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cgro naicip ko lng na importance ng pag prapractice ng photorealism eh pra sa mga beginners sa pagpipinta na willing o gus2 maexperience at matry ang mga different styles sa art kc pra sken, opinion ko lng, kung maprapractice ko ang tamang pag rerealism matuto ako sa basics in art at kung anu-ano pa, kc sa ngayon wla ko maicip na pdeng mging style ko o pde ko maimbento, kya naicip ko simulan ko sa realism then one day mkakaisip dn ako ng style or ng approach na mkakalabas sa walls ng realism, un ang naicip kong diskarte na inaapply ko ngaun sa sarili ko
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i got to that satge myself...to share with you my personal experience i worked as a portraitist in oil and charcoal photorealsitically as a job...this is a good way to practice, and i have nothing against that...but once i know the what and hows of doing, copiuosly laboring to imitate the most minute detail of a work, it gets to a point that you are claustrophobically limited to render everything!!! then i studied...i searched, inquired learned from mentors...then i realise, what is the purpose of trying to convey even the single decorative design of a dress, a nuance in the smile the same as it was in the photo...it came to me that to do so, the imaGINATIOn is fettered, shut down to remain in the same building...when we learn, when we live what do we ingest first...milk, then as we grow up we eat solid foods, then all foods...then we favor one food from another but we also appreciate the taste of all foods...some boods are not for us...it may have an allergic reaction on us...ganun din sa art...what does history taught us? the movement was a 30 year old or so style invented in america to glorify commercial, urban/rural life aiming to show or glorify the enterprise of industry, of the folly of fashion, or the seemingly pathetic condition of someone in a theatrical pose or setting...
go and learn photorealism, then decide if it suits you, thats what i did...thats what ivan did...but in the other way around...
anyways im constantly repeating Ivan is not a photorealist, his subjects though copuios are emotive...that part speaks most of my sentiments
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gromyko, curious lang ako, bakit takot ka sa mga western subjects at models ni ivan? anu bang kinakatakutan mo sa western models, im not debating with you this time, im just curious bakit prang ayaw mo nang western subjects? ganun kc yung prof ko, takot din sa western subjects......
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i will note you...mukang ayaw pading tumigil ng idol nyo tinawag pa ko ng harapan na pangit ang gawa samantalang i never gave any ugly term on his work...
i will note you
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bro, dont get angry, ganun kc ang ugali ng prof ko eh, takot sa western models...hehehehe.... im not agry with you, curious lang kasi ako eh, ... again peace be with you!!! shanga pala, congrats! sa exhibit mo!!!! galit ka ba sa akin??
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guys, as far as i know ivan roxas is a symbolist not a photorealist,his paintings may look photorealistic but for him he dont call his art photorealism or hyper realism. whats the matter if he paints western or asian? maybe he did this painting for a commission or just like what he stated that he has a friend here in DA that would like to be painted by ivan? even if his paintings dont look nationalistic it doesnt mean he's not nationalistic too,all artist wanted to be versatile right? ivan roxas is a filipino, and all of his works here are admired by most of the people here you dont need to paint a filipino person to prove that you are nationalistic for me whats more important is they know he is a filipino, its just like ivan is waving the flag of our country and proving that even here in the philippines there are many artist like you gromyko and sir ivan that can compete in the international art scene
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Adrian,
thats exactly the point, my worries only as far as im concerned is mine to keep, now if i affect by saying this(and im saying not as a BOY)then i have nothing more to say...and let me clarify kais im reading here i wanna be the center of attention...im just merely commentating ivan's great work...and im not telling him that his work is pure photorealism, i know that by experience, and by history...and im not dictating him to paint filipino subjects...anyways i already apologize...sorry for my seemingly rude comment yet im not really aiming for that
G
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