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It's been slow at work lately. Got this done in two days. (Don't tell my boss. XD)More time travelling Twilight!
What is the book about?
I'll let you all (unofficially) decide in the comments.
Oh I apologize for anyone who just died of a cute overload. ^-^
EDIT: Tweaked a few panels.
More time travelling Twilight comics:
Vectors I made for this:
"Lady Bugs Awake" [link]
"Filly Sprint" [link]
"Step Back, I'm Trying Magic" [link]
Vectors I modified:
"Contented Rarity" by Stabzor: [link]
"Twilight Sparkle is annoyed" by LilCinnamon: [link]
"Twilight Sparkle Suspicious" by Tim015: [link]
"Rarity getting rejected" by RedPandaPony: [link]
"Twilight Sparkle Frustrated" by areysram: [link]
"Rarity's Epic Facehoof" by ABadCookie: [link]
"Peekaboo" by coldbologna: [link]
"Screw Studying" by BonesWolbach: [link]
"Twilight ninja is scouting you" by Vunlinur: [link]
"Twilight Sparkle - She does like books!" by Santafer: [link]
"Filly Twilight Sparkle" by Silentmatten: [link]
"Twilight's Library (night)" by Sulyo: [link]
"Ponies Fly By Background" by adcoon: [link]
My Little Pony and all characters involved are copyright Hasbro.
Fonts used are Suplexmentary Comic NC & BDCartoonShout.
Created with Inkscape and Photoshop.
If I failed to credit anyone properly please tell me so that I can add them to the credits.
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Comments: 276
Oh, I have an interesting thought. The book can't be exactly the same as the one from her past. Its close, but all organic matter(paper has tree stuff in it) has some amount of radioactive material in it. The book she gave her past self would have less radioactive material than the one she received from her future self. Is this a paradox, or am I just making stuff up? I would be interested to know if I'm wrong!
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The book does get a couple extra years added to it's overall age, but it only ever loops one single time, and moves on into the future. Twilight returns to the future, after her little trip, having only aged a very short time, possibly only a minute.
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isnt that false hope shes giving to her younger self?
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Dammit Twilight...Doctor Whooves has some work to do again.
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The book is obviously the Cliff's Notes summary of the plot of Primer.
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Novikov self-consistency beats parallel-world time travel every time. Stable time loops are so rad.
If the book really is an ontological paradox, I bet it contains a bunch of tautological spells that require it to exist through sheer logic. Or it's some anthropic thing about how Twilight existing would require her to observe a book like that.
Otherwise it just contains some real cool spells that make Twilight realize this's what she wants to do with her life.
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It's just a book on magic, to help the filly get her start that she needs. The book isn't in some infinite loop, and it doesn't spontaneously come into being to fulfill time. When it was printed doesn't much matter. It could have been made before Twilight was ever born, or it could be a new, first edition magic primer that came out only slightly before twilight finds it and travels back in time with it. That's actually a very good way to explain how she'd KNOW to send it to her past self as a filly. If she remembered the book from her foalhood, and yet it was only JUST written, it'd make her realize that it had to have been sent back in time.
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This pic explains why the book only looped once, and why Twi just popped back there and then back home to the present.
Time travel does not need to be as complicated as some people make it out to be. If time is a dimension of space (aka, the 4th dimension), then the past, present and future are merely all points along a line, and if the dimensional line exists, then the past, present and future all simultaneously exist. All a time travel spell has to do is bend space-time to connect the two points on the dimension of time in on itself.
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the question is, not what the book is about, but how OLD is it? i mean, if you were in a continuous time loop forever, wouldn't it still age?
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Maybe it contains instructions to herself to re-write it before she finishes the loop. ^-^
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Exactly. if the book gets to the point where if falls apart then time as we know it will fall apart with it... Unless. Unless there is a preservation spell in that book that needs to be cast every 25-30 years which so happens to be the amount of time that the loop lies within... my brain hurts.
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This should explain the mechanics of a single loop time travel event. The book is not in an infinite loop. Look at my other posts in this thread or the pic for a better explanation...
It's 5 AM where I live... Neeeeed sleeeeep...
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Maybe it contains instructions to herself to re-write it before she finishes the loop. ^-^
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Actually, the method of time travel depicted in your comic is easily explainable. There are no infinite loops, no spontaneous emergent matter. It's all simple. Diagram below:
[link]
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also someone needs to make this idea into a fanfic.
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Twilight goes through time without a hitch,
but goes utterly insane trying to explain how time travel works to all her friends!
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The book has a note from herself, but as a filly she didn't understand the meaning. Years later, she re-reads the book and finally understands the message she wrote to herself.
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... if the book is meant to bear her Cutie Mark so as to imply it to be her central point of learning that made her the prodigy she is today, you got it wrong.
One big star, five little stars.
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It's similar, it wasn't meant to be the same as her cutie mark.
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Alrighty...
Comic's still good.
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I have a feeling its a diary of her future, kinda like In Doctor Who when River song has that book about her future events with the doctor. seems Possible to me
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Instant heavy and HNNG diabetes after reading this!
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Oh god. Filly Twily, AND a paradox that makes sense? This is great!
:d
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She has just made an information paradox, you know. Now that BOOK is in a paradox. How is it not aging?
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Not paradox, causal loop.
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The book only loops ONCE. The diagram will explain. I'm too tired to go deeper, look at my other comments explaining how this works. Good ones are on the next page of comments. So tired... 5 AM...
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Simple. It's in a paradox. To keep the paradox alive, the book has to not show any signs of wear. So even if the book gets damaged in future Twilight's time, when Past Twilight goes to read it, it will look brand new.
That's my theory.
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Not paradox, causal loop.
[link]
See other comments. I know this is getting spammed a bit here, but seriously...
I can't stand there being a lack of knowledge. I must explain it!
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Hmmm. Doesn't make sense, does it?
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I've thought about temporally-locked objects for a long time. It would make sense that something which has no origin should be considered a "temporal anomaly," an object that transcends laws of time. Any thing or creature interacting with said anomaly should therefore, by proximity, become a partial anomaly themselves. Through these things or creatures, the concept of the original anomaly is enabled to enter the known universe, by means of the semi-anomaly "bridge" that is created.
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Nonononononononoooooo
The book only loops ONCE!!! You NEVER send the book back that you got in the past. You ORIGINALLY send that book to the past, and keep it as it reaches the present. Just... Just look at the picture... Spontaneous emergence is so convolutedly unnecessary it's ridiculous. Time travel is a simple concept, just impractical energy wise. Past, present and future all simultaneously exist on the span of the 4th dimension, and as such, if you warp space-time so two points touch, they can be met temporarily.
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it is quite impossible to tell a temporal anomaly from a normal thing, am I right?
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My thoughts are that the book DOES in fact age. the book deteriorates to the point of destruction and Twilight makes a new one. Now the book has an origin and prevents the book aging anomaly by simply saying, "Yeah, okay, it ages." As for its contents? They probably help Twilight understand spell casting better and pushes her in that direction of study. There may or may not be a note in the back saying "I gave this to myself" which eventually makes Twilight realize the potential paradox predicament and places the perfectly restored parcel in the past with smarty pants. Presto!
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Buah! Argh! Ahh!!!
The book is NOT in an infinite loop!!!
It only loops ONE TIME. You send the original book to the past. It's no longer in the present time line, but is now in the past. As it REACHES the present... you keep it into the future. You do NOT send that same book back, because when the present arrives, you already will have sent the original book back, thus the book that was sent to the past need not be sent twice, since it's younger version that already existed in the present was sent back when you got to the present.
Diagram included!
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it cannot loop one time. there is only one timeline. if you keep the book into the future, you have created an alternate timeline. [link]
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So utterly wrong. Time exists in what we refer to as the 4th dimension. Consider dimensions 1-3 being height, length, and width. Consider for our example that the book is represented by a car as that object in 3 dimensional space. The 4th dimension is like a one-way highway. You are only permitted to travel in one direction. It's against the law to drive the wrong way. If you find a detour though, you can turn off and bend the flow of your driving so you double back and drive the same segment of highway twice. It's NOT a NEW highway. You just drove over that section of lane two times. When you get to the detour you originally turned on, you DON'T turn, you keep going forward.
Now replace the car with the book, and the highway with the timeline. The highway doesn't NORMALLY have detours, but that's what the time spell does, it creates a loop back so you can drive the same section of highway a second time.
Twilight was like a road worker directing traffic, and the detour was her time spell. She created the new path to double back on the highway, and she directed the flow of traffic so the car (book) goes back once, but when it comes back the second time, she lets it move on.
The ONLY difference with time vs the highway model, is with time travel, you see yourself driving down the highway from the first time you drove it. That first time traveling, that car turns onto the detour, but the second time over the highway, that car goes forward, passing the detour.
Does it make sense now?
The key, is all points, past, present, and future ALL simultaneously exist on the time line, so you can theoretically connect any point. It's not a new timeline. It's just timeline with a side order of curly fries!
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But then, the book which you sent back either is the same book, in which case it has no origin or end (temporal anomaly), or there would be two books in circulation: one new one and one old one.
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One only one book exists... Twice in time. Once normally, till it's taken back, then it coexists with itself as a double, till the original event causes the "original" (for lack of a simpler word) book to be sent back, leaving the single book to flow into the future, the book that went through the same part of time twice... A singular loop, with a definite beginning and end.
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Now that would be good. But there is still the information paradox. Like where did the information in the book originally come from?
Well, of course there's Magic!
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HHNNNNGGGGGGG OH DEAR CELESTIA FILLY TWILIGHT!
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