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This is a character design for a Phantom of the Opera comic I'm planning to do.To see more: [link]
Provisional cover:
[link]
Erik full body with coat: [link]
Erik full body without coat: [link]
Another design: [link]
Designs for the female character of the story: [link]
More female character designs: [link]
I have thought of a 'Erik travels to our present' story (yes, you read well xD), but with no Mary-Sue thank you. I need him to be very dark and agressive, not a charming man at all, but appealing in a sinister way (it won't be based on the movie, the book or the musical exactly, it will be a personal mix).
Mmm... so I don't think I quite like this design, he looks too soft (specially the one on the right), too handsome, too... ¿Gerard Butler? xD I want him to look mean and not trustworthy. Maybe it's the eyes... His eyes are too beautiful, that's it. Or maybe it's just my paranoia.
In my story he would eventually come to live in some poor immigrant/marginal neighbourhood from any big city of Europe, where he's not frown upon because of his eccentricity, where everyone minds their own business. He would NEVER become a normal member of our society, not because he couldn't, but because he wouldn't want to.
This comic, if ever to be finished, is for you, DeviantArt people. So...What would you like to see in a POTO comic with Erik in our present? Romance? Fluff? Accion? Mystery? Supernatural? He adjusting or not adjusting at all? Parody? (for example Erik using the subway is quite a funny image lol) Would you like him living alone? with a family? in a flat? in a house? with a woman? with a prostitute? xD To be rich and succesful? Please feel free to make sugestions.
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Comments: 40
srlluis [2010-02-04 21:45:39 +0000 UTC]
Cool idea, it's funny nce I thought about a comic book were the phantom would confront batman...I know XD Had ideas about making it very detective based with eric's lasso, references to lines from songs in the musical and so on...just an idea XD
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F-warp [2009-03-22 23:23:20 +0000 UTC]
Not to be a smart-ass or anything but you should NEVER ask your audience what kind of story they would like to see. Just tell the story you want to tell and you'll see if people like it or not.
Just sayin'...
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FrauLuminara In reply to F-warp [2009-03-23 13:45:36 +0000 UTC]
Well I'm pretty interested in what people wants to read, so I asked Don't worry, the story was already developing in my mind, I didn't ask from zero. As a matter of fact I think it's VERY useful to seek advice. You know, very good ideas come out when speaking about a project to a lot of different people (sometimes mixing them you have a brilliant idea). Someone may know something interesting you do not. Rest assured, I would never force myself to work in something I don't quite like just because that's what people wants to read xD
Thanks for speaking your mind
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F-warp In reply to FrauLuminara [2009-03-27 22:56:03 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I just tend to agree with what Alan Moore says: "You should never give the audience what they want, because the audience don't know what they want...that's why they are the audience. The writer's job is to give their audience what they need, which is different from what they want."
Wise words from the coolest hobo on the planet.
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Phantom-Jaselin [2009-03-10 22:17:32 +0000 UTC]
I'd think it would be good as a parody/supernatural mix. That would be a really fun read, especiallly with your wonderful art.
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FrauLuminara In reply to Phantom-Jaselin [2009-03-12 14:41:51 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you like my art
I would love to give the story some parody parts, although I don't think it would fit into the whole comic since I want it to be very dark, but more like separate parts, you know, like in some serious manga comics where suddenly there's a page or a vignette parodying itself.
About the supernatural thing, it's something I really have to think about, because the time travel has to be explained somehow xD Although I don't really see Erik having superpowers or something.
Thanks for commenting!
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Phantom-Jaselin In reply to FrauLuminara [2009-03-12 22:40:59 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, Erik with supre powers would be a little wierd. But maybe a Puck like character who decided to mess with him would be good? (hope I'm not being annoying, just trying to help.
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FrauLuminara In reply to Phantom-Jaselin [2009-03-15 23:14:30 +0000 UTC]
Oh don't worry, you are not being annoying! I appreciate every single opinion!
Mmm I like the idea of a character opposite to Erik in mannerism and personality, yeah maybe Puck like. I will think of it
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Phantom-Jaselin In reply to FrauLuminara [2009-03-17 00:12:47 +0000 UTC]
I'm very glad I could be of help.
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AngelERenoir [2009-03-08 03:35:07 +0000 UTC]
What about making it no pairing? No pairing means a sure non-Mary Sue. Loved your design, btw. Good-looking but creepy.
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FrauLuminara In reply to AngelERenoir [2009-03-10 12:12:30 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you like the design! Mmm I thought of making it a no pairing, but then I realized what people wants to read is precisely a romance xD But trust me, I'm working VERY hard to avoid Mary Sues
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AngelERenoir In reply to FrauLuminara [2009-03-10 19:08:22 +0000 UTC]
Yaaayy!!! I have a hard time avoiding mary Sues because I simply don't know what Mary Sue are. People in forums are so harsh these days... Everything is Mary Sue for them that I'm not sure which one is a random flame and which one is REALLY a Sue-fic
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FrauLuminara In reply to AngelERenoir [2009-03-10 20:30:07 +0000 UTC]
When creating an original female character, it's just so damm easy to make it a Mary Sue! (prepare to read one hell of a long comment xDD)
The better way to avoid it, is making her ugly hahaha But then that's not what people wants, is it? There are some features that make a Mary Sue unmistakable (but doesn't always appear): an exotic name, strange coloring, a completely beautiful appearance (if she has some small flaw like a sexy scar, she's even MORE Mary Sue), a superior intelligence or magical powers, a strange skill to make every male character fall in love with her immediately... In general, the Mary Sue is a projection the authoress makes of herself, to kind of 'conquer' her favorite male character. You have to be truthful to yourself. Is your OC just an improved version of yourself? Is she doing in the story exactly what you would do if you were her?
Not all Mary Sues are equally recognizable, and sometimes they just need time to prove their not a MS. Eventually, the only thing I ask myself to make sure my OC is not a MS, is: The woman who likes the male character and is reading this, will she like the female OC or will she hate her? (if she's a Mary Sue, the reader will feel almost threatened, like when a very attractive woman appears in real life). Some people tolerates Mary Sues, and others just hate them (like me xD).
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FrauLuminara In reply to primulatook [2009-03-07 13:13:25 +0000 UTC]
thank you!
Since I admire you so much, I'm very glad you like my drawings
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Rakumei-San [2009-03-06 16:55:02 +0000 UTC]
Wow what a cool idea. I'm looking forward to seeing more of it!
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FrauLuminara In reply to Rakumei-San [2009-03-07 13:13:54 +0000 UTC]
glad you find it interesting!
Soon I will submit more of it
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AniP [2009-03-05 17:55:27 +0000 UTC]
what, a phantom that does not look like gerry? hmm i think i love this design. you kidding?
he looks dangerous enough to me you know what i mean he looks handsome but not approachable at all. like look but don't touch
hmm erik in europe sounds good. maybe he has to live under a house where a family lives or a school for the arts where only girls are taught lol
he would be one of the teachers ahem or just the ghost that loves to terrorize the poor girls; nah he would be the director of the school.
hmm maybe i'll write a story like this myself lol
i think whatever you write will rock and i will read hope it will be mature content. romance? definitely, and all you mentioned are a must have when it comes a to a good erik story.
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FrauLuminara In reply to AniP [2009-03-05 20:07:28 +0000 UTC]
mmm look but don't touch, I like that!
So you wouldn't really change anything from this design? Maybe... a sharper look? More danger in his eyes?? lol lol I think I'm obsessed
Hahahaha Erik living in some art school, now that's a good one! He would be the 'hot ghost director' xDD I dind't think of him becoming a teacher, but that would be very interesting!! He would be one hell of a hard teacher xD
Of course it will be mature content! hehehe Yeah, I suppose in the end the story will have a little bit of everything Who would you pair him with? Mmm... I was thinking of some bohemian girl who lives in the neighbourhood, or maybe a mature divorced woman with children! xD Whoever she is, the most importan thing is she's not a MarySue (this is the second thing I'm obsessed with hahaha).
Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
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AniP In reply to FrauLuminara [2009-03-05 20:42:25 +0000 UTC]
hmm pair him with me of course lol kidding!
i wish
hmm bohemian girl hmm nope a divorced woman with children sounds good. i think any woman that its not christine im ok with ha!
the children hmm don't like the idea of children they get annoying and interrupt the best scenes lol but go ahead if you want to
his design, yes looks dangerous enough to me. but if you want to change something go ahead i know i will like
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FrauLuminara In reply to AniP [2009-03-05 21:07:36 +0000 UTC]
xDD
Yeah, Bohemian girl maybe is too MarySuish... This is very hard, Jesus!! xDD I like the idea of a mature woman, older enough to -try to- understand him lol Intelligent and VERY strong. Not a new Christine, definitely xD
Children interrupt the best scenes, eh? In the "mom what are you doing sticking your tongue down Erik's throat" kind of way? xDDDD
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AniP In reply to FrauLuminara [2009-03-06 01:12:06 +0000 UTC]
yes that way ahem. but yes annoying. yes older woman works there aren't enough stories out there with erik and mature women lol
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FrauLuminara In reply to AniP [2009-03-06 14:03:35 +0000 UTC]
hehehe
Mmm today I thought it would be nice if the woman was older than Erik by I don't know maybe 10 years lol And I'm talking seriously here. He would be like 35 in my story, and a 45 years old woman can be very attractive. I think it's sexy if she's older than him and more experienced (he would be dark and unreachable anyway) hahahaha
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AniP In reply to FrauLuminara [2009-03-09 04:21:09 +0000 UTC]
oh indeed she would have to be older love that idea. always though what if madame giry and phantom were lovers. hehe so looks like what you will create i will like!
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FrauLuminara In reply to AniP [2009-03-10 12:09:03 +0000 UTC]
hehehe I also loved the idea of madame giry and erik being lovers xDD
Thanks for having faith in me! I think today I will submit another drawing or two
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Firebones-Art [2009-03-05 15:41:28 +0000 UTC]
CON UNA P...!? No crees que ya tuvo suficiente el pobre con Christine ¬¬ Ya que lo resucitas... (y no se va a ir con blanche *sigh* xDDDDDDDD) ¡¡Vamos a darle caña!!
Hay veces que tenemos ideas parecidas... El otro dia en clase me preguntaba como seria si por alli brujuleara Eriko-chan (y le pegara un buen susto a la monja que me da latin ¬¬
Nu se Nu se... xD Estaria bien que tuviera que cuidar de algo asi como un "pupilo" adolescente... no me reiria ni nada... xDDDD (taba pensando en dos, pero eso es un proyecto de mi amiga y yo xD)
-^^- sea lo que sea molara
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FrauLuminara In reply to Firebones-Art [2009-03-05 15:47:04 +0000 UTC]
jajaja bueno, pero una prostituta no tiene porque ser mala persona xD No sé porqué me lo imagino haciendo migas con lo más bajo de la sociedad, moviendose más por los bajos fondos xD Eso sí, manteniendo su perfil de gentleman jajaja
Mmmm, es que sería muy interesante ver como un personaje no solo de otra éoca sino tan desquiciado mentalmente interactua con nuestro mundo
Un pupilo, eh? Podría estar bien, no se me había ocurrido nada parecido. Poner a Erik de figura paterna para alguien... quizá un chaval huérfano o algo, alguien que despierte su lado más humano (quizá porque le recuerda a él mismo). Aunque el Erik de mi historia no sería un buen padre en absoluto xD Hay que pensarlo. Si se te ocurre alguna otra idea, ya sabes!
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Firebones-Art In reply to FrauLuminara [2009-03-05 16:58:24 +0000 UTC]
no en plan padre... hmmm...
¿Tu has visto la relacion que tiene Dante con Nero? Son parecidos, se llevan a matar (hay que separarlos de vez en cuando y quitarles las pistolitas) xD Imaginate que Nero fuese a vivir con Dante, ¿que sucedería?
Algo así me refiero
Es cierto, por ejemplo, Jhonny Deep se enamora de una prosti en la peli "Desde el infierno", la historia del Reaper por excelencia *hia*
Y... si se encontrara con una minichristine? (que nooo no seas sadica joder xD)
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FrauLuminara In reply to Firebones-Art [2009-03-05 20:12:45 +0000 UTC]
mmm sí, creo que ya entiendo lo que quieres decir. Mmmm, no lo veo muy claro porque meter a otro personaje masculino importante en la historia le podría quitar protagonismo a Erik (no quiero que se convierta en un cómic procesión de mis propios OCs xD No se si me explico. Me gustaría que hubiera muchos y carismáticos, pero que todos sean absolutamente secundarios). Aunque quizá es un riesgo que hay que tomar por huevos, porque no puede estar él solo en la historia jajaja Quizá algún chaval que lo conozca del vecindario y lo admire y lo moleste de vez en cuando (toques yaoi? jajaja). Tengo que hacer una lista con todos los personajes posibles y empezar a situarlos en el entorno de Erik. Seguiremos informando! jeje
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Firebones-Art In reply to FrauLuminara [2009-03-05 21:53:15 +0000 UTC]
Nooooo!!!! Erik, que se quede en la safety zone del yaoi... Por muy morboso que pueda resutlar... sigh yo no lo intentaria (no quiero ni imaginarmele viendo un comic de esos... xDDDDD)
Mmmm... si, obviamente no puede ser un criajo quitaprotagonismo como neroncios pero alo asi entre su relacion. Agas lo que hagas quedara bien ^^
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FrauLuminara In reply to Firebones-Art [2009-03-05 23:05:59 +0000 UTC]
jajaja bueno, si eso se le puede dar un toque yaoi de esos que solo vemos las que estamos buscándolo xDD Alguien como Erik sinceramente creo que estaría más allá de cualquier orientación sexual, pero claro, hay que pensar en las audiencias xD
Gracias por tu fe en mi, my darling! A ver si no me canso de este proyecto y lo tiro adelante xD Iré subiendo cosillas a DA para pedir consejo y tal
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Firebones-Art In reply to FrauLuminara [2009-03-06 15:47:18 +0000 UTC]
-^^- yo siempre confiare en que maromices a todo bicho viviente y lo rebuenorices... dentro de poco colgare un pive que es lo opuesto a un bishie como dios manda... sigh... xD
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