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gabrieldevue — go ask alice...
Published: 2006-05-15 22:16:52 +0000 UTC; Views: 12394; Favourites: 444; Downloads: 476
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I felt very honored to be asked to do something for an friendly society (wow! what a nice translation of eingetragener Verein). They do a lot to inform about drugs. I have the impression, that this association doesn't condemn drugs and doesnt glorify them, they help, answer questions and seem to be in touch with the people, they want to help.They do a good job and i liked the idea of what they asked - The society is called "The Alice Projekt", more info here:
www.alice-project.com/
Seriously, when I heard, I could work on a nightmarish version of alice, i got a bit... edgy. I like this weirdo-alice-game for its soundtrack and the settings, but i have troubble imagine how Mr. Caroll would have liked that. I think, Alice is a very sensitive topic and one can get easily distracted by its opportunities. I also would rate this picture not a very good version of Mr. Carolls ideas. I concentrated more on the work of the friendly society, than the novel.
I am not quite finished with this picture and before I send it off, I ask for your critique. Is that picture still understandable?
I am very eager to learn, what there is to improve and what you like.
It' about 70% watercolor + ink and 30% digital.
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This is very well done. I like how it is very detailed, not too chaotic, but chaotic enough to get the point across. Pretty twisted too...
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The picture is understandable, and it still stands open whether your pro or against drugs. I like the psychdelic-ness of it really 
Well, the picture is understandable, though logically I don't know of your intentions here. Say, it's neither black nor white. I think it 'shows' the drug in the psychedelic-ness, Alice and the many forms of seduction it has. I think the skeleton gives it a subtle and nice counter- thing
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I have only one suggestion. Because you can't see the catterpiller's face, maybe you can draw it as an reflaction in the shiny bel looking thing he's facing..!?
Nice work anyhow!
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thats a very good idea - to work more with the glass surface. I will experiment with it. thanks a lot : )
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Thinking of a fitting attribute, "warped" comes to mind - not in a negative sense though. Highly agreeing on the recommended increasing of contrast as the piece's subjects do tend to blend in parts. I understand though that it's probably quite hard to make them all differentiable while avoiding it to become too... hm... pop-artsy (maybe? XD).
The colour scheme along with the well-known symbolism screams Alice-on-drugs to me, so mission accomplished. Don't think it's overdone in any way... and not *too* confusing either, though I must esp. the left hand bottom corner is a candidate for lots of eye squinting. Does Alice have three hands or is one that of the mad rabbit? Either way I'm not too sure about the girl's anatomy should those legs with the striped stockings be hers. That position would go under "unhealthy" in my books *lol*
So much for my critique. Very good Gab-ish piece *nods*
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Coool, die Grinsekatze ist der Hammer!
Und überhaupt gibts so viel skuril-cooles in dem Bild zu entdecken. Erstaunlich!
Irgendwie spürt man auch voll deinen Enthusiasmus, wenn ich dir den mal unterstellen darf. Also auf mich wirkt das ganze Bild, als hast du die ganze Zeit malen GEMUSST, als wäre gar nichts anderes möglich gewesen, als das Bild zu malen... keine Ahnung, es sieht voll irre aus, wie eine Nacht im Wahn durchgemalt
Ich will bei dem Bild auch gar nicht anfangen das zu analysieren und dann zu kritisieren. Es erscheint mir zu viel persönliches darin vorhanden und da wage ich mich nicht dran.
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Hey falk.
Ich freu mich sehr über deinen Kommentar! Vielen Dank. Oh ja - in der Grinsekatze steckt tatsächlich auch mehr vorarbeit als in allen anderen Bereichen des Bildes. Das scheint man gleich zu sehen 
Ich freu mich unglaublich, dass du dieses Bild so siehst - halt manisch gezeichnet.
Leider war dies nur während des ausarbeitens der Outlines so. Bei handcolorationen muss ich so viel Denken, überlegen und experimentieren, dass ich da eher auf die technik als auf den Inhalt fixiert bin. Das war auch eine ziemliche herausforderung und bald bin ich so weit, dass ich mal iiirgendwann keine digitalen korrekturen mehr brauch und das Bild im Original auch aufhängen kann ; )
Mir ist sehr viel an technischer kritik hier gelegen, aber ich freu mich ebenfalls über deinen Respekt. Stimmt, inhaltliche Kritik wär in diesem Bild nicht ganz leicht für mich herunterzuschlucken. Danke!
gab
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Ui - du machst ja eine Menge Andeutungen hier in deiner Antwort. O.O
Also du schreibst zb, du freust dich darüber, dass ich das Bild als "manisch gezeichnet" betrachte. Das hat mich ein bisschen verwirrt, da ich mit einer Mani eine Krankheit verbinde und ich wollte dir nichts krankhaftes unterstellen... andererseits hat es mich aber gerade deshalb verwirrt, WEIL du dich darüber freust. Aber vielleicht hast du eine andere Vorstellung von manischem Verhalten, als ich.
Aber die viel verwirrendere Andeutung war dann die, dass du inhaltliche Kritik nicht ganz leicht hättest herunterschlucken können. Das klingt SEHR bedeutungsvoll für mich...
Du musst nun nichts dazu schreiben, da ich ja nicht weiß, wie es gemeint ist... ich wollte dir nur kurz mitteilen, wie das alles auf mich gewirkt hat, beim lesen.
Technische Kritik zu äußern finde ich bei dir sehr schwer, da ich nicht weiß, wo du hinmöchtest. Ich finde du hast diesen Stil, in dem du immer wieder malst, sehr gut drauf und ich sehe da kaum noch Dinge, die man technisch verbessern könnte. Auch farblich finde ich deine monochrom/tonale Art überaus passend zu deinen Bildern, wodurch ich dir auch nicht mal empfehlen würde mit Farbigkeit mehr zu experimentieren...
Es wäre für mich sehr interessant zu wissen, was deine Vorstellungen sind, wohin du künstlerisch willst.
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looking glass, check. queen of hearts, check. cheshire cat, check. catapillar, check. Man, are THOSE some LARGE shrooms, and large catapillar too, very looooooong. mad hatter? cheeeeeeeeeeck. he was kind of hiding underneath the hat, and i didn't recognize him, what with him being well dead and what not. Alice
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wow, thanks for the detailed comment : ) well, the mad hatter was not really ment to look like this. I wanted to draw a very well mannered gentleman, but was in automatic mode at this time (somehow like falk below this comment says "manically drawing" ; ) ) I didnt pay a lot of attention to the sketch at this point and regretted it later. But why it turned out to be a comic-skull - i couldnt say. But i like it this way as well.
Yepp, I think Xevv's suggestions are very helpfull and will work a bit more on the contrast and defining everything. Thanks a lot!!
gab
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lol.. oh the product of what happens once you are on a drawing rampage... more like being possesed really....
yeaaaaaaah... once i ramble.... i really don't stop... sorry
plus i'm a big fan (obsessive really... i have a shirt i wear constantly) of Alice In Wonderland, so it realy got me riled up.. haha, sorry again!
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Gawd that's an incredible picture. I love her headphones. THey kindof shut the outside away from her...meh doesn't matter, I won't ramble. It's a great picture, love it.
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i love the colors in this...theres alot of stuff going on in this picture...u did a great job!
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Oh, I play that game; American McGee's Alice? Loved it......
A lot can be said about Caroll and his fixation on Alice Liddell, his bizarre inability to feel comfortable around adults, and his messages. I prefer through the looking glass myself.....
I like this a lot, I like Alice's unsure figure with her big-assed head phones. I might boost up the contrast a bit, and if it were me drawing it, incorporating my own style, I might make everything a bit shinier and add other colors in.
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thanks lot!
jepp - i also think, that Mr. Caroll was very interested in substances of some sorts, but i am not quite sure, if he really meant to put it in the book. : )
Thank you very much for the critique. I think, it would do good to work a bit more contrast in the bottom part + thereby defining the blending shapes better. Thanks a lot!
gab
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i am thouroughly (wow - another English word i really like) convinced, that one can go that far away without taking anything illegal. wweeeelll... lets take that for an answer. ; )
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thoroughly*
Maybe, you'd have to have a wild imagination to come up with such odd looking characters without the aid of narcotics. Good work, nonetheless.
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darn. i knew it thoroughly. Thanks
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wow.. i love the color sheme
as said before very detailed and certainly has its own dynamiques
friendly society sure sounds "cute" in comparison to the german counterpart
rock on
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That's pretty sweet dude. I was luck enough to catch it in recent deviations. That cat is freaky. Ever heard White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane?
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I love that song! We listened to it in English class when we read the book. I love the song as much as I love the book
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shesh! you have been fast! hum, it rings a bell, but i cant recall. I will google for the lyrics.
darn. like always I see about 10 spelling mistakes though i doubble checked before sending...
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lol. I know what you mean. Everytime I tpye anything on a forum or whatever I have to edit it right away.
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