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Published: 2018-11-09 20:18:03 +0000 UTC; Views: 40817; Favourites: 137; Downloads: 56
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Description I was getting a little sick of some people confusing Gwen/Heretic for a robot. XD

However, that's my fault. The suit was originally designed as a cybernetic suit of armor. When I teamed up to make Grafted in 2016, the lore demanded that it become organic. We did some tweaks, but I was stubborn and wanted to keep my angular look. Mostly because I wanted to preserve a strangely androgynous look to the character when suited up. 

So, two years later, here I am finally caving to make something a bit more organic. The big hurdle was the breast-plate. I also had to ditch some of the solid plate-like lines of the older design. 

This has the effect of making her look a little less protected, so I amped up her limbs as these were meant to deflect incoming attacks and fire with the reflexes of a Jedi. The result is something that I think remains mobile-looking while protective. Caving and finally letting the insect eyes actually be insect eyes also goes a long way. 
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pmmecovfefe [2020-05-14 19:24:49 +0000 UTC]

You know this looks like a combination of max steel, a JJBA stand from golden wind, and a symbiote. This looks very impressive.

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AacornSoup [2019-06-17 16:11:55 +0000 UTC]

So the first Heretic (Arthur Collins's Heretic) was your Iron Man analogue, and the second Heretic (white Gwen), the third Heretic (first design for black Gwen's Heretic) and this fourth Heretic (second design for black Gwen's Heretic) are all basically Ultraman analogues?

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general-sci In reply to AacornSoup [2019-06-18 22:09:11 +0000 UTC]

Mmmm, no.

Believe it or not, each iteration of the characters is actually a bit closer to Captain America in terms of what they choose to do with that power. Even then, each of those iterations is less Captain America and much more closely related to a non-super hero character: Captain Kirk.

Pro civil liberties, weary of easily earned power, and preferring to do no harm despite an immense armament at his or her disposal. 

That said, as I was gearing up to pursue this story more seriously back in 2008 I did see the Iron Man film at the time. Before that film, I was trying to batter the powers of the suit into a 'believable' state where the materials of the suit could only repel small arms fire, but something from a rifle such as an M-16 or AK-47 would penetrate the armor. Let alone a mounted heavy machine gun.

Then I saw the film, and a suit hobbled together from parts for a missile (which are meant to be light so there would be less demand for fuel in said projectile) was able to survive a mounted .50 machine gun.

… I had to change the rules.

So, I pushed it closer to something like a Jedi and could deflect incoming fire but would still need to avoid a strike from a firearm in order to survive.

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AacornSoup In reply to general-sci [2019-06-18 23:16:08 +0000 UTC]

The reason I likened the latter (ie. organic) Heretic suits to Ultraman was because both the design of the Heretic suit reminds me of Ultraman and because the newest Heretic suits being organic living suits that bond to the wearer reminded me of the Beta Capsule.  ultra.fandom.com/wiki/Beta_Cap…

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general-sci In reply to AacornSoup [2019-06-19 15:11:55 +0000 UTC]

Hm. 5he thing is: I've never watched anything to do with Ultraman. That being said, I have friends that say I was channeling Guyver even though I hadn't seen anything related to the property until I after I started work on the project.

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ronmarz1 [2018-12-15 19:45:23 +0000 UTC]

She would look more awesome if the area of the suit chest was more femine.

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MegaScarletsteam [2018-11-10 05:06:39 +0000 UTC]

looks neat, though if I were to be honest I kinda liked the armored suit looking design, reminded me of the symbiote based armor he used during superior ironman

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general-sci In reply to MegaScarletsteam [2018-11-10 06:15:52 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad you liked the old design.

I didn't think it was a bad one either.

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gamemon09 [2018-11-10 01:52:30 +0000 UTC]

nice work

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general-sci In reply to gamemon09 [2018-11-10 06:14:57 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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whatiwrote [2018-11-10 00:58:54 +0000 UTC]

I like the redesign organic FTW

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general-sci In reply to whatiwrote [2018-11-10 01:15:13 +0000 UTC]

Agreed!

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StoneMan85 [2018-11-09 22:23:00 +0000 UTC]

Oh man, Gwen/Heretic looks stunning.

She almost looks like the Guyver.

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general-sci In reply to StoneMan85 [2018-11-09 22:27:39 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad she doesn't sport the same forehead weakness as he does... Though I'm certain he packs waaaay more weaponry. XD

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StoneMan85 In reply to general-sci [2018-11-09 22:34:22 +0000 UTC]

That's a relief.  Probably.

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Agonyblade11 [2018-11-09 21:46:35 +0000 UTC]

I prefer the og look.

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general-sci In reply to Agonyblade11 [2018-11-09 21:47:40 +0000 UTC]

Which one is the OG look?

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Agonyblade11 In reply to general-sci [2018-11-09 22:40:17 +0000 UTC]

The original design. Hence the initials, OG.

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general-sci In reply to Agonyblade11 [2018-11-09 22:42:07 +0000 UTC]

Sometimes, I have to get technical. To me... This is the original design:

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Agonyblade11 In reply to general-sci [2018-11-09 22:44:45 +0000 UTC]

I'm trying to talk about the design of her seen recently in that whole Rebecca symbiote story.

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general-sci In reply to Agonyblade11 [2018-11-09 22:46:50 +0000 UTC]

I figured. I just also wanted to share the idea has morphed and changed a lot over the years too. It's a bit like saying, "I like the old Doctor Who" and a fan asking for clarification if you meant a previous actor who played the Doctor and, if so, who exactly.

Thus, my own confusion.

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Agonyblade11 In reply to general-sci [2018-11-09 23:36:07 +0000 UTC]

Well, glad I things became clear.

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zeogold [2018-11-09 21:35:20 +0000 UTC]

From looking like a robot to looking like a Eldar assassin. Only thing to do now is have her duke it out with a space marine.

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general-sci In reply to zeogold [2018-11-09 21:36:20 +0000 UTC]

Now that would be something. XD

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vevans0009 [2018-11-09 21:19:44 +0000 UTC]

No robot confusion anymore. Love the creature focus. 83

How will you integrate her updated look in your lore, though?

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general-sci In reply to vevans0009 [2018-11-09 21:33:15 +0000 UTC]

Gwen currently has the lowest synchronization rate to her Graft by comparison to her peers. They're both in the mid 60 percentile. She's in the high 30's. As she catches up, the appearance of the Graft can change. A bit like one of the characters from Dragon Pilot who forced her dragon to stay in the form of a jet, Gwen hasn't really embraced the Graft. The more she does, the more it can relax into a form that it's comfortable with rather than what strictly lets Gwen be comfortable.

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vevans0009 In reply to general-sci [2018-11-09 22:22:40 +0000 UTC]

So a long ways to go then?

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general-sci In reply to vevans0009 [2018-11-09 22:27:04 +0000 UTC]

Well, for the foe I have planned, she'll need to improve a lot and do it quickly. So yeah, you'll be seeing this form in the canon of the series sooner rather than later.

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vevans0009 In reply to general-sci [2018-11-09 22:31:00 +0000 UTC]

Oh okay! Badder foes, stronger heroes.

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Blast44 [2018-11-09 20:51:04 +0000 UTC]

So badass.

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general-sci In reply to Blast44 [2018-11-09 21:00:49 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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Blast44 In reply to general-sci [2018-11-09 21:07:04 +0000 UTC]

Your welcome, hoping to see new abilities for her.

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SilverWolfJudge [2018-11-09 20:24:51 +0000 UTC]

I’m getting some Warframe vibes.

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general-sci In reply to SilverWolfJudge [2018-11-09 20:25:59 +0000 UTC]

Warframe, Guyver… It all blends together. XD

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SilverWolfJudge In reply to general-sci [2018-11-09 20:28:26 +0000 UTC]

Kek

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