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I do like this a lot. I see this as a friendly spar than an earth scattering fight. (Though is should say New Namek scattering fight.) Either superman ask for a refresher coarse in supersonic combat, he just wants to perfect a move and none of his robots could keep up, or Goku just wanted fight and Clark wasn't busy.
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This looks cool. I know this is from that movie of Metal Cooler.
But this is blasphemy how Superman is exchanging blows with Goku; Superman can't fight shit.
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Dude, if Goku is such a great martial artist then why does he constantly get blind sided by non martial artists like Vegeta, Freiza or Buu? That would be equivalent of Deathstroke getting owned by a single street thug.
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Martial arts, (whatever they are called in that universe)/fighting skills along with ki blasts, is what primes in DBZ in order to win a fight. All of thesecharacters are ridiculously good, for a reason, in this respect, hence they win. That along a ridiculous amont of inner power that translates into infinite blasts. Anybody who has seen DB since the beginning knows this. No need in wondering why they win against Goku(Goku wins in the end though, always).
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That doesn't answer my question. Vegeta Frieza and Buu haven't had a day in certified martial arts training and probably never even heard of it yet they can decimate an actual martial artist in a one on one dual?
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Well, they know how to fight, whether it's martial arts or has any other name. Simple. How they know. Well, it's never explained, but hell they know.
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That's a terrible explanation. Sure they "technically" know how to fight, but at best their technique would be on the same level of a street brawler. Vegeta comes from a race of barbarians whose best fighting technique is chucking Ki blasts everywhere. Frieza is a tyrant who hasn't had a certified day in training for anything, and Buu is some magical blob with with only basic intelligence. How the hell does that compete with a supposed trained martial artist exactly?
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Well, that's a terrible explanation, yet it's the explanation. They know how to fight and neither fights like a savage. Each knows how to fight. Vegeta trained though. Seems like You didnt see the series or just dont remember.
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All wrong. Vegeta trains to raise his power and strength not increase his technique and skill. He's a prideful Saiyan warrior, a race who only cares about showing everyone else how mighty they are, and otherwise only rely on brute force to win anything.
That's the equivalent of saying a weight lifter is a martial artists just cause he lifts and trains a lot. Sure he knows how to throw a punch (anyone pass 10 knows how to do that) but that doesn't mean they know technique.
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Dude, it's training; he trains. What is the point of this all? There's plot gaps, yes, but you've seen they excel in fighting, whatever the method they went through. In DBZ, they excel in fighting skills. That's common stuff. Everybody who's seen the series knows this for sure. What is the point of this all? Good bye.
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The point of all this is to correct this little misguided idea people have about DBZ. People constantly going around saying Goku would beat Superman cause he has actual fighting skill, as if this fight is the equivalent of Superman vs Batman-with-Superman-powers or some shit. The arguments you've put forth are so goddamn weak and it feels like all you're doing is just dodging the question cause, evidently, you can't actually answer it.
I want you to tell me specifically *what* training these characters have had. Not just weight lifting like Vegeta's 100x Earth's gravity bullshit or Frieza's and Buu's non existent training, I mean actual legit training that consists of learning actual martial arts techniques that would realistically put them on the same tier list as an actual martial artist.
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Well he can just not nearly as good as Goku
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It's clear you don't read his comics at all. Superman is one of the greatest fighters in the DC Universe.
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goku is a far better martial artist though
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He never demonstrates that.
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First off. If you'd read them, you'd be telling me what he can do. Obviously you don't know, and come up with a generic answer ''you don't know the character''. This allows people not to really get into something and get refuted badly.
A martial artist versus a bodybuilder. This is not even a fight at all.
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You didn't even look at the goddamn fucking links i provided for you!? I give up! Dragonball fans are too fucking stupid to argue or debate with!
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Look if you want to debate with us the very least you can do is not drop F-bombs bro. Admitabley superman is a extremely skilled fighter capable of keeping up with people lke Darkside. But Goku is on a completely different level he trains EVERY day none stop for the soul perpous of bettering himself. Do you really believe a guy who has learned how to punched someone can keep up with a master martial artest? I don't think so
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So are you still ignorant, or did you learn something in my absence?
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I was never ignorant in the first place, I am a fan of both Goku and Superman and have read bother the comic and the manga and wile supermans power has been really inconsistent over the years I still think Goku would win
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Looking at the Comic's you gave me all I see is pressure point combat and punches I do not see any form of kicks or anh other advanced martial arts technics. He is a "good" fighter but put against a guy who trains every single day of his life for the soul purpose of bettering himself? It wouldn't be over in an instant but Goku would win
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You don't even know what Martial Arts is, do you? There are martial arts with no kicking in them.
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Lol. The second typical answer; dubbing the others as fans. Why don't you come up with your reasoning? And tell me about what you know of the character, what you(who supposedly know the character) have witnessed of the character.
This is everyday's basis of people with inferiority complex.
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I posted images of the comics for you to read, so you are blind.
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I did. What's supposed to be in those pages? So if I posted images of Goku in, that'd make an argument or something at all?
What's the point of posting that? Proving that Superman can fight as oppossed as I had it in my first comment? Ok, he can fight. I admit it. I know he fights. I said ''he can't fight shit'' as an exaggeration to illustrate. If you pretend to say that puts him at Goku's level of physichal fighting. That'd be a big LOL. I don't even have to provide material of how do DBZ fights go, do I?
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First: your reply to me, the first one, blatantly ignored what had been posted as evidence as if it wasn't even fucking there. So this image link becomes relevant:
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Secondly, considering that unlike Superman, Goku never uses pressure points, Superman would quickly put Goku on his knees... by locking all his muscles in painful spasm. Even Superman's un-powered father was a skillful martial artist, and close friends with Krypton's greatest military leader.
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Its simple, goku is the superior martial artist, superman is the more powerful one
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Then show me Goku using pressure-points.
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Okay, so he can knock out humans. So what?
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Your too desperate, trying to redirect your question to something else, you only asked for pressure point demonstration, not what Goku has used it on. I have admitted to Superman being superior in power than Goku, but when you said Superman would bring Goku to his knees with pressure points, I laughed a bit. Goku fought Hit, the most powerful pressure point killer in his own universe, Goku took pressure points from Hit with little problem. Goku wanted Hit to use his full powered killing pressure point techniques but Hit was not allowed to because of Tournament rules. Goku is so skilled in martial combat and has trained his body to such a degree, he is not afraid of any killing pressure points, he wants them to be used against him, he wants to see his opponents power. I will admit, Superman's martial skill is ridiculously impressive, and I even respect him for allowing himself to be taught new ways of fighting than just relying on his own power given to him from birth.
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My point is, Superman does pressure points faster and in real battle, not against weaklings who have no chance of winning against a super-powered alien. Hit uses pressure points, sure, but Goku never uses pressure points in a real fight.
"Goku is so skilled in martial combat and has trained his body to such a degree, he is not afraid of any killing pressure points"
That's not training, that's his Saiyan desire to fight strong opponents. Vegeta is the same way.
"I will admit, Superman's martial skill is ridiculously impressive, and I even respect him for allowing himself to be taught new ways of fighting than just relying on his own power given to him from birth."
Now that's an improvement from the last time we spoke.
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you know what, your right.
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Dude, Superman's fighting skills don't compare to Goku. Are you serious on this joke? Superman gets tagged 9 out of 10 times he gets attacked. Lex Luthor shots whatever weapon he's got and Superman gets hit. How many times has Superman won by hitting pressure points. Where is his knowledge of pressure points when fighting important enemies? Where did he use them against Doomsday or Darkseid. Superman fights are cavemen-like. They exchange punches like two brutes. Goku teleports behind him and it's GG.
Goku doesn't know pressure points? Even Tao Pai Pai could kill with his tongue in a pressure point, and Tao Pai Pai is nothing compared to Goku at the beginning of DBZ.
This is not even a match. I know there's too much involved to a character that represents the American ways losing, but he sucks compared to other canons. That plastic scarecrow is no reference outside of the US. He's a plastic superhero made out of western silly notions about what can be measured.
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You do know Superman has been known to hold back depending on who he's fighting, right?
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This thread is long since finished. Au revoir.
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...Yeah, you're ignorant. Very, very ignorant. Darkseid? Darkseid is a god... and Superman blinded him with a single strike. Doomsday is immune to pressure points, and Luthor uses a Kryptonite-infused power armor built by Darkseid, that can easily one-shot planets, and STILL can't beat Superman.
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Tao-Pai is a simple Human: his pressure-point strike is nothing compared to a Kryptonian unleashing a thousand pressure-point strikes on every muscle in less than a hundredth of a second, each with continent smashing force behind it. Like what Superman did to Gor.
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This is getting idiotic, dude. How old are you? What's with posting those images? That only proves how easily Superman gets tagged. I've just come across many instances where Superman gets hit without kryptonite, but putting the link is like giving this too abiding by your game(putting a lot of images and not realying on reasoning and your knowledge of the character).
A lot of assumptions on your side.
-''Doomsday is immune to pressure points'', where is it stated? Why didn't you provide an image where SUperman states that, since you like to put images(that don't prove nothing at all)? Answer: because there's none. It's only your wishes.
-''Darkseid is a god'' a god in Superman universe. Planet busting is child's play in DBZ. Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a power level of about 150. By the beginning of DBZ Goku is about 500. By the Saiyan Saga, Goku is 8000. He could destroy an array of planets if got to it. In DBZ Darkseid would be an average henchman in the Saiyan Saga. Why didn't you put a link to an image of DarkSeid destroying a planet? Sure there might be, but still, planet-busting is child's play in early DBZ. Where is it stated that pressure points don't work on Darkseid again?
And your more moronic assumption: ''Tao Pai is a simple human: his pressure points strike is nothing compared ot Kryptonian'' where is your basis for that? The one image you put of a Kryptonian using pressure points was on a henchman. THAT ONLY HAPPENED ONCE. That's usual stuff in Dragon Ball. Dragon Ball is not a realistic universe. In DC humans are weak. In Dragon Ball humans destroy the Moon with training, fly, travel on flying pillars for thousand miles in minutes. SEE WHAT A SIMPLE HUMAN CAN DO IN DRAGON BALL. As simple as that. That pretty much tells of the difference of power in both universes. Checkmate right here.
THIS IS MY LAST REPLY. THIS IS VERY MORONIC. YOU PROVIDE IMAGES THAT DON'T REALLY TELL SHIT.
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Assumptions? Those are basic facts, you moron.
"Master Roshi destroyed the moon with a power level of about 150."
Power-Levels aren't worth shit. Bardock thought Gokju was weak based on his Power Level, and Bardock couldn't even TOUCH Frieza.
"The one image you put of a Kryptonian using pressure points was on a henchman."
Sweet Mary mother of Joseph, ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE? That was both Gor, and Ultraman you twit! TWO KRYPTONIANS!!!
You're too goddamn stupid to debate with!
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www.screwattack.com/news/goku-…
moviepilot.com/posts/2015/07/1…
go to this website
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I gonna be on Screwattack on YouTube this or next week. A rematch of goku vs superman. FUCK yes!
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Goku wins
Karate Kid beat pre crisis superman
Goku is karate kid on steriods
Even dc comics knows martial artist like goku beat superman
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