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Battle of the brothers:GOKU SSJ3 VS RADITZ SSJ!
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Goku could probably take on SSJ Raditz in his normal form.
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he couldnt take on Raditz normal with Piccolo's help, wat makes you think he'll take on him in SSJ?
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The battle between Goku, Piccolo and Raditz was BEFORE Goku became the kindhearted Supreme Ass-kicker we all know. I know you people don't like it all that much, but in GT, Goku took on both SS Gohan and SS Goten, without so much as powering up, and kicked BOTH their asses without trying.
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yea but i didnt like the fact that raditz never came back(i blame Akira Toriya)and also that the GT ending sucked ass
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I personally liked GT's ending. But why bring Raditz back? I mean, even KRILLIN could whoop his ass by now. That is if he hasn't gotten any stronger than when Goku and Piccolo fought him.
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actually its like they said in Dragon Ball Z abridged, It was all downhill from there, just like Yamcha. and about the GT ending, arent you pissed that everybody got sucky while Goku stayed young and got stronger?
PS Raditz rules
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Well, they could have brought Gotenks back and I am a little ticked that they had Gohan fall back into the same routine he had back in the beginning of the Majin Buu saga. (Focusing more on his studies/job/whatever than his training) They even undid what Old Kai had done, turning him back into a regular Super Saiyan) At least they made Vegeta shave that mustache. And Goku wasn't all that strong in GT, not at first. As his first fight with Baby Vegeta proved: Goku's small body proved a liability when he tried to go SS3.
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thus making DBGT a downgrade of DBZ
PS Raditz rules
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Not...necessarily. If Goku had been as strong, as he was at the end of DBZ all his battles would have been too easy. The handicap that young body provided made things interesting.
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why? so the viewers could be "surprised" when he turned into his more powerful, adult, SSJ4 body? and besides Raditz death and GT's ending, i'm also pissed that Gogeta SSJ4 (the most badass mutha fucka Akira Toryama ever made) only got like 10, 20 minutes in the entire show
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Q: "why? so the viewers could be "surprised" when he turned into his more powerful, adult, SSJ4 body?"
A: Well...yeah.
On the Gogeta issue: Ok, THAT I agree with. He could've EXTERMINATED Omega Shenron, but no, his enhanced power level had to shorten the Fusion Time. Stupid Fusion Dance!
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and i didn't get the playing around (even though he had a right) i mean it was like 5 kid Gokus. they could've tried a little harder to control there child-like emotion
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Must have been a side effect from Goku's childlike body...or something...I dunno.
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probably, and thus he never returned to his normal age probably 40 or 50, although you wouldnt think so cuz pureblood saiyans can maintain there youth longer
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I wouldn't say that...If you watched the GT epilogue, you'd see.
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no i mean he does but he should've died back then with his wife, his rivals, his friends, and his son's
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Well, GT left on a cliffhanger (sort of): Why did Shenron place the Dragonballs within Goku?
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i dunno. i know Shenron left to clear the world of the dragon balls for a while and Goku went with him to train, instead of staying with his wife and kids
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Well, I guess we'll never know what, exactly, happened to Goku.
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well you can think Akira Toriyama for that. leaving some huge cliffhanger with no background explanation
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I seem to recall reading that Akira Toriyama had nothing to do with GT.
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the hell are you talking about? isn't he the writer and artist of the show?
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Yes, but Dragonball GT was NOT based on the original Dragonball manga.
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It's still connected as the sequel to Dragon Ball Z which was the sequel to Dragon Ball. returning to the topic, Akira Toriyama had nothing to do with GT?
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Akira Toriyama created the original manga, didn't he? If so, then no, he didn't.
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oh well, i still didn't like the ending = P
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There are many people who don't like GT for one reason or another. (Some say that Z should have been the end of it. Others don't like the SS4 design.)
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I do too. It's a refreshing new look.
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I never said 'downgrade' All in all, GT was still pretty good despite those shortcomings. And one more thing, what is it you like so much about Raditz? Personally, he's not the kind of villain that one remembers easily. The only reason I even care to remember his name is that he's Goku's brother.
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I remember him because hes awesome (at least to me) and because i think he shouldve had a second chance on the series (again i blame Akira Toriyama)
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I reiterate my question, what is it you like about him so much?
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i like him because he was powerful enough to beat Goku and Piccolo on his own, until Goku grabed him, but nobody ever notices the small details.
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Ok, but still that was in the BEGINNING of Dragonball Z. Goku and Piccolo were MUCH weaker than they are now when they faced him.
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yea and since Raditz never came back to life he remained ridiculed as a weakling. Only Goku and Vegeta remained powerful, the other saiyans got slightly weaker (not including Pan who was a total bitch), and everybody else... all downhill from there
way down
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I admit Pan was hardly the nicest of the Dragonball characters, but she got better as GT progressed. I mean Chichi was MUCH worse than her! Outright admitting she cared more about her son's EDUCATION, than anything. That really pissed me off. Gohan did me proud when he told her off in the Super Android 13 movie.
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well now we know where Pan gets her... charm? no thats not the word im looking for. anyways it really was stupid that ChiChi always bitched at Gohan to study more, in the end it only made weaker. he was awesome in the Cell saga. SSJ2 was the best thing he ever became.
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Finally we agree on something. Gohan and Goten were the only good things that came out of Goku's marriage to Chichi.
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and also the "i need you to get a license". 
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Well...didn't Raditz trick Goku once by taking advantage of his kind nature?
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dude, you know dam well that alooooot more people have taken advantage of Gokus kind nature
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True, but...why else would people hate Raditz? The guy's dishonorable and sadistic. I just don't see any good parts in him. Care to elaborate on why YOU like him?
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maybe its because he's long gone and forgotten. but that doesn't mean he's any less important. like i've said before, people treat this guy like shit when ever they hear his name. maybe i just feel sorry for him; i don't see anybody else feeling sorry for the guy that got a hole through his chest and died after the 3rd or 4th episode
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Well...*sigh* now that you put it THAT way...
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even in fanbase, where he looks awesome and powerful, he gets humiliated. "I see it. I like it. Here's what happens next: Raditz's arm gets blown off, and Raditz himself gets blown all the way to Saturn." cant you be happy that hes a super saiyan? even if its not canon?
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Look, I like Super Saiyans. A LOT. I'm only being realistic. A Super Saiyan 3 vs. a NORMAL Super Saiyan. The outcome is OBVIOUS.
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i know, even Vegeta couldn't beat Goku Super Saiyan 3 and he was at Super Saiyan 2, but still you'd think Goku would beat him up a little and leave Raditz to learn a lesson, not blast his ass all the way to Saturn. if he didn't do it to the more ruthless Vegeta, i don't think he'll do it to his older brother
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*sigh* I guess you have a point...but...Goku wouldn't have gone all the way to Super Saiyan 3 just to 'teach Raditz a lesson', either, so...
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