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Published: 2006-03-05 13:07:05 +0000 UTC; Views: 240; Favourites: 1; Downloads: 15
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OMG! I uploaded this fast?! (Yay for sleepovers! They make me work!) Oh no! Zack! I broke his arm! But I got back at Sally ^^...sorta
Anyway, I've mastered hands to some extent! And my graphics teacher SHOULD be happy with this! (I'm giving it to her or anything, I'm just saying!)lol. So, please tell me what you think? I need constructive critisism...^^
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*reads over whole thing*
*blinks*
*resists urge not to guffaw like a moron*
Too....easy.....too....fucking....easy....
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um...thanks but....what dya mean to easy?
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Gee, now, I'm at a dillemma here. Should I hound on you for how stupid this entire thing is, and how grossly out of character you've made Sally, should I swerve around those spikes on the road, and just critique the art, or should I just confuse you more and continue laughing?
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...Ok. I get it. Thanks for commenting but you forget one little thing:
MY VERSE MY RULES!!
Ok? ^^
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Not okay. You're ruining a perfectly good character for...whatever reason, probably involving the fact that you prefer Sonic with Amy, and thus giving that same image of her to those who don't know her and will probably assume that's what she's like without ever bothering to look at an Archie Comic or see an episode of SatAM, because they only hate your version and figure that's what she's always like. I see this all the time, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it. IT's not funny, it's not cute, it's not a beautiful work of art. It's a waste of time and talent, and a butchering of a perfectly good character.
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And I forgot to mention, Sally's NOT an ok character! She's spoilt, she hit Sonic, she wouldn't speak to him when he started hanging out with some mongoose (I forget her name) and I could go on forever but I'm not gonna. Ok!?
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Okay, there are several things wrong with your statement.
First off....How the hell is Sally spoiled? And don't give me any of the ''SHE'S ROYALTY'' horsecrap etheir. In SatAM, Sally was most of the time, WAY more amture than anyone, including Sonic. Don't beleive me? Here's an episode of SatAM. Watch it in full.
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Second, She hit Sonic because Sonic acted neglectant toward her. Who WOULDIN'T Slap somebody across the face after they acted all ''I don't care about you so i'm gonna fight in the war BYE''. And BTW, Why don't you hate Amy because she's hit Sonic MILLIONS of times with her hammer. Ever thought about that?
I can't really respond to the last one, though. Since I don't read Archie (But Mina is her name), but try to open up a bit on the subject of Sally, alright?
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Ok, thanks for commenting, but sorry I can't agree with what you say. I don't wanna go into it, but I don't agree. So, sorry. Thanks for commenting, but I can't agree.
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Ok thank you dude, you have voiced your opinion, now kindly get off the stage and let me continue with my verse. I know, I heard you all before, I know you guys love Sally, that's ok! I'm not sayin' 'don't love her', I just don't like her personally, and this is how I see her. Its NOT a waste of time if your proud of the end result! NOTHING is a waste of time! There's alot of Amy bashers out there too ya know, but I don't bother them! I just leave 'em be and go and look at the 'pro Amy' art! NEVER say anything is a waste of time on my watch ok?!
But so ya know, your right, I do like Amy with Sonic, and Sally's just dropped their son out the window FYI!!!
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Question. If you don't want anyone saying anything bad about it, why are you putting it up on a website where anyone can see it? It's up and available to anyone who might like or dislike it. I mean, in the future, if you want to get published, not everyone's going to absolutely love what you do, and reviewers will tear what you publish to shreds(by that I mean point out every little thing that's wrong with it.)
I know you're not saying don't love her, but by making Sally like this, well, that's still the message being given. People WILL assume this is how she is and hate her for that. Believe me, I've been around for a long time and that's what happens, that's how it works!
As for the waste of time argument: Captain Planet. John Kerry's campaign. Fanart-central.
I rest my case.
And yes, there's bashers for every character and couple. I myself am I huge fan of Amy AND the pairing of Sonic with Amy. (I just happen to prefer him with Sally lol 
These problems arise when you draw something just to bash a character. You miss important details because you're so determined to make the character you dislike look bad. You don't gain anything out of it, and other people who don't like said character will do nothing but praise it because it's bashing a character they don't like, what could possibly be wrong with it? You go on not improving in art or storytelling as a result. I should know, I used to do bashing this like this all the time. It wasn't until I stepped back and said, "Wait....what's the point of this?" that I started actually improving.
And that's all for now. I've made this argument a billion times (actually a little over twenty but...) and I'm getting tired of typing it over and over.
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Alright, Alright! Thank you! I get it! I just made her like this because I didn't wanna be like everybody else! Its just how I see her character, ok!? Can't I have an opinion on something?! And there's a reason for Sonic not helping: HE DIDN'T KNOW!!! And Zack didn't know Alicia was Sally's daughter, he doesn't even know Sally and Sonic had a 'fling' of some sort! Hell, Alicia was just somebody he met in school!! And Sally doesn't even show up past this! This was her LAST appearence! So what if I made her pshyco? I'm NOT trying to bash Sally, its not the point of the comic, the point is to show Zack that he's gonna make mistakes! He's gonna slip up! And its how he handles this stuff that counts, Sally doesn't even pose a point! She's just there ok?! Also, I'm not trying to gain anything! I want people to see this, but not because of Sally, not because of a partiular coupling favouritism, I want them to see it for the love of art!! So what if people assume this is how she is? So What? They don't have to! They can make her however they want, I can, you can, anyone can!! It doesn't matter! These characters AREN'T REAL!!! They may seem real, but they aren't, we gotta accept that! Look, thanks for reviewing, its appreciated, but please, just leave me alone and let me continue with my own verse and thoughts and originality alright?
And before I go: PLEASE LEAVE THIS ARGUMENT BE!!! Its been drawn out long enough! I just wanna enjoy what I got going and that's that.
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SO WHAT'S THE POINT OF USING SALLY?!
If she's just 'there' then, well, why her? Even if it's not the point of the comic, there's still no reason to just randomly have Sally there and randomly be some psycho bitch from hell for no apparent reason! Why not make an original character instead of butchering another character you know other people like?
And go on to fanfiction.net. You're not even CLOSE to the only one who's portrayed Sally as some selfish whiny bitchprincess. The only reason you used her was simply because you don't like her. There was no point in using her of all characters, any original other character would've done just fine, but no, you have to turn Sally into the bad person, which she isn't at all!
Yes, you're allowed to have your opinions, I'm allowed to have mine, too and express them. I have full right to say that I don't like my favourite characters being manipulated just so you can make some story insulting them! Like I said, if you can't handle the fact that other people don't like it, and openly express the fact that they don't like it, then don't put it up where anyone can see it! That's the point of DeviantART, for people to put up their work, and others to say what they think of it.
I'd say more, but I have a class starting in a minute. So, seeya. Reply when you've matured a bit please.
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No, No, you got it ALL wrong! She's not just 'there', even you can't admit that even in those comics she's not right! She hit Sonic, she wouldn't talk to him for a long period of time, she always has to be carried everywhere, all the story line seems to revolve around her so why not use her like this? Look, who cares? Seriously? Its not that I don't appreciate that you don't like it, ok, I got it, I can live with that, I can! Just when you make Sonic and Amy and Zack sound like the bad guys THEN I retaliate.
Yes, your right you can express your opinions, that's great, I salute it. But I can't sit idolly bye while you pick at all the stuff I did 'wrong' with one character. The story isn't about 'insulting' anyone! Its about right of passage for Zack alright? Leave me alone, I DID make up a character to use! Alicia! Sally's daughter!
And I don't like my fave characters being manipulated either but I just do the writers/artists of those ones a favour and just stay outta there way while they do whatever the hell they wanna do. Its just easier and it makes everything easier for everyone.
That's it, I'm bringing this argument to a close. Good look at your class and NEVER reply to me again, we'll just cause trouble to each other so its best if we stay outta each other's way. Remember NEVER reply to me again if your gonna just nit-pick at an opinion of a character.
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Uh, when did Sally ever have to be carried anywhere? o_o She even saved Sonic on her own a few times...
And she did talk to Sonic, even after she thought he kissed Mina, so I really dunno where you get this stuff from o_o;; she hit Sonic because she thought he was going to sacrifice his life when it wasn't even nesscessary for him too because she loves him, or at least that's what i know from reading it, not because she wanted to lock him up in a castle as a sex slave, or whatever reasons I've heard.
The storyline doesn't revolve around her, she doesn't even appear that much in the latest issues.
Look, I don't mean to cause trouble but I don't know where you get this complete crap about Sally from. Maybe you should decide for yourself. But whatever.
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Ya know, your actually the most polite I've heard so far! I know, I know, and in this I'm not saying 'hate Sally' or anything...well not much, ya have to read the first page for an explaination, this comic aint about her at all, its about Zack. To be honest, sorry but: I don't care. I don't care about Sally so I made her like this, does that make sense?...
So anyway; thanks but please let me be with how I think everyone is.
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Finally Sally gets a little bit of what she deserves.
Now on the 4 panel, the 2nd part in it, Zack's arm is smaller than the other one, that could work out something. Tho I really like how you drew Zack in the 3rd panel
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Thankyou for telling me!! I need to improve on that now ^^ Thanks! I like how I drew Zack in the third panel too ^^
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At least he got away. As for critisism, I don't mind but I heard others would complain about shading.
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Yeah, probably would
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