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Great-5 — Quit bitching and enjoy the wolves...

Published: 2012-10-10 03:49:19 +0000 UTC; Views: 6936; Favourites: 154; Downloads: 17
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Two years, a hundred faves and many enraged humanaboos later, this stamp is still going strong. I mean wow, it's in only one group, and I don't think it's my best stamp by far, but it still has a hundred faves. I'm not even that big of a wolf fan, I just made this stamp to jump on the wolfaboo/anti-wolfaboo drama bandwagon that still rages to this day and to make people think and question whether a person really does hate something, or if they're just hating on the thing to piss other people off. And apparently, wolfaboos DO exist...they are people who love wolves so much that it's at the expense of other animals, humanity included. And I actually do think that is pretty stupid, since there are so many more animals to appreciate than just wolves.

You can't like just wolves and nothing else. In a corrupt world, where the strong prey on the weak, and a faceless cabal of sadistic, Machiavellian nihilists operates coldly on detached logic and preaches a crooked gospel of nihilism, human supremacy, social Darwinism, absolute skepticism, slander, hypocrisy, ridicule and "othering" of targeted groups, the downtrodden must stand strong and present a unified, mature image in the face of an injustice. "They" govern what can and cannot be said under threat of blackmail, persecution and systematic identity-destruction, so remember, you are only the bigger man if you don't make an insufferable fool of yourself...because when you do, "They" have already won.

Nationalistic monologue aside, so far I've gotten faves from devoted wolf fans, sane wolf fans, animal fans in general, moderate human fans who also care about animals, etc...a whole host of interesting people faving this stamp. Keep being awesome, dA


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Okay, I think I've found something even stupider than hating on "rabid" bronies, furries, weeaboos etc...at least those ones almost made sense given the fucked-up things some members of those three aforementioned fandoms do, but apparently now liking wolves is something worthy of being cyberbullied over!

It seems like nowadays anti-wolf stamps and hate art mocking people for drawing "speshul sparkledogs" almost outnumbers the decent, artful, positive drawings of wolves and wolf furries on this site. The whole thing reeks of the same old "let's hate on X because X is popular, and by hating X we are the new 'in' crowd, above all those dumb fans!" mentality, it's immature, embarrassing and really makes me think this site has gone steadily downhill since the start of this decade.

Me? I like wolves, not as much as many people on this site do, but they are 2nd place on my list of favorite animals, with cats being the first on the list. I may be a sane wolf lover, but I still hate seeing how barbaric and petty people are acting over this whole "wolfaboo" thing.

Finally, as for wolfaboos wishing they were animals instead of humans, as a misanthrope I can't say that's too unreasonable a fantasy. Especially when humans are the ones responsible for fucking up our environment in the first place, and killing each other over religion, politics, money, etc. I see stamps basically glorifying humans killing animals, or saying humans are "better" than animals, just as a drama-generating measure designed to offend wolfaboos, furries, otherkin, etc. and generate more butthurt and lulz, and it makes me lose even more faith in humanity.

Sorry for my tl;dr rant here, I just felt like saying this. That is all.
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Comments: 246

Great-5 In reply to ??? [2014-02-19 07:04:07 +0000 UTC]

I am sorry you are being bothered by annoying people online, but sadly, I am having trouble believing that you are telling me the full truth. If you actually link me to the comments and posts you are getting (it doesn't have to be public, you can do it in a note,) then I might consider changing my opinion that wolfaboos do not exist. But for now honestly, the biggest offenders I've seen are not the wolfaboos themselves, they are the people who respond to the wolfaboo phenomenon just as aggressively and childishly as the "wolfaboos" they claim to hate so much, making anti-stamps condemning not just wolves, but ALL animals, parading their own human supremacist beliefs around just to piss off animal-lovers, saying animals are a "resource" for humans to exploit, trolling people, causing drama, and those who do all that and still consider themselves fans of a given animal have the nerve to call themselves "sane" fans of whatever the hell that thing is, because apparently to be a "sane fan" of anything, from anime to wolves to MLP, you must love and hate that one thing at the same time, and bully anyone who likes the given thing "too much." Doesn't sound very fun or friendly to me.


Long story short: Please show me direct evidence for the existence of wolfaboos, and I will change my mind. Deal?

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PinesongWolf In reply to ??? [2013-12-20 11:57:34 +0000 UTC]

I don't think you understand the point of that comment. I was noting the neutrality of this. I assumed it meant that people should stop wasting their time worrying about wolfaboos and like, or dislike wolves as they please, and stop directing hate and stereotypes at the people who do. If that's not what this stamp means, I apologize for misunderstanding. And I don't recall even calling you a wolfaboo. And as for their existence, I'm not entirely sure. They certainly exist to the people who hate them, and the definitions use descriptions like overly obsessed. To me, that can be a recipe for disaster, when people misrepresent something with emotional pleas. But really, I don't see that happening as much. So ultimately, I was complimenting your sensical, neutral, anti-hate statement, if that's what you intended by this stamp. I honestly suggest you try to understand intentions before developing an argument with aggression.

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Great-5 In reply to PinesongWolf [2013-12-20 15:58:26 +0000 UTC]

Oh my god, you're right. That actually occurred to me after I saw your comment. I am terribly sorry. I feel pretty bad, please forgive me.

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PinesongWolf In reply to Great-5 [2013-12-20 18:04:00 +0000 UTC]

It's fine.

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Great-5 In reply to PinesongWolf [2013-12-20 18:57:49 +0000 UTC]

Good. I guess I should have paid attention to your username and your favorites. It's pretty obvious you're not an anti-wolf troll XD.

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PinesongWolf In reply to Great-5 [2013-12-20 19:07:15 +0000 UTC]

Lol, yes, and I'm pretty open about being Therian and loving wolves, it just bothers me when anti-wolf trolls go around, "OMG LYK WOLFS R VICIOUS MUNSTERS KILL DEM ALL" and wolf fanatics are like, "OMG LYK WOLVES ARE JUST AS GOOD AS HUMANS". Wolves are not monsters. No animal is. It's not like they can consciously do evil, like people can. But, if someone told me I had to kill a human or animal to save my life, I would certainly have to kill the animal. The whole Wolfaboo v. Wolf hater thing is stupid, because they're both wrong. Wolfaboos and wolf haters, are both EXTREMES. And I dare say I've met few fanatics on either side. It would be best for all conflicts if people could just avoid being extreme or radical, but...whatever.

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Great-5 In reply to PinesongWolf [2013-12-20 19:35:14 +0000 UTC]

Ugh, I totally agree. In my experience I have never even met or seen many rabid fans of any given thing so I can't really personally attest to the fact that they are bad, but the massive backlash I see them get I actually find much, much worse. Especially when it seems all these people are bitching and whining and complaining about something I can't even see, and as such have an incredibly difficult time relating too.

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PinesongWolf In reply to Great-5 [2013-12-20 19:48:24 +0000 UTC]

I just don't understand why anyone would waste their tine hating a people group. So what if someone like wolves, or sparkle dogs, or MLP, or whatever, as long as they don't bother you PERSONALLY, don't worry about it. Over half of all stamps I've seen, and many groups, revolve around "Join Us, If You Hate _____". And that's simply stupid.

Now, sparkledogs...I draw natural, anatomically correct wolves, so every now and then the goth/emo/scene sparkledog that's a blend of wolf/kitsune/demon/fennec fox/puffer fish/lion irritates me, but I don't go around posting troll comments on sparkledogs.

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Great-5 In reply to PinesongWolf [2013-12-20 20:05:09 +0000 UTC]

Yeah hate groups are balls, that's for sure.


And I don't draw sparkledogs either, nor am I all that interested in them. I do have an idea for a wolf-like creature from my original universe that is essentially a giant canine the size of a small horse, with antlers and a thick mane, but it definitely does not come in fluorescent colors, have wings and a ton of other mismatched animal features, etc. I have not drawn one yet, but I will actually strive to give it good anatomy.

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PinesongWolf In reply to Great-5 [2013-12-20 20:17:21 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and I don't mind hybrid furries, or expressive furries, or ones with good color combos...it's just the neon, arm banded, pierced ones named Akamaru Moonshinebloodfangspiritface Naruto that mildly irritate me.

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Great-5 In reply to PinesongWolf [2013-12-20 20:31:36 +0000 UTC]

Bad use of colors is an unfortunate problem that a lot of art has. Which is why I use bright colors extremely sparingly, preferring to use more gentle, subdued colors.

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PinesongWolf In reply to Great-5 [2013-12-20 21:08:11 +0000 UTC]

Yep, defiantly a fan of neutrals.
<~~~~~~~~~*boring icon*

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everyday-im-wumboing In reply to ??? [2013-12-05 20:44:55 +0000 UTC]

i think aboos are annoying but i dont care about them.
there is always going to be people like that on websites.

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TheSonicReploid In reply to ??? [2013-11-28 00:19:40 +0000 UTC]

I didn't know anything about this until I saw stamps about it. People seriously hate on others just for liking a certain...animal, of all things? It used to be if you liked a certain character someone else hated you'd likely get flamed for it. You know, I think you're right. Certain people hate on others or things they like just to hate.

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LunaRavenstar In reply to ??? [2013-11-19 10:32:07 +0000 UTC]

Yes I truly agree. I would almost say that a lot of anti-wolfaboos are bullies because they keep going on and on about all this shit and how wolfaboos should just go die in a hole. I do find wolfaboos fairly annoying, but really most of them are just young and immature people who will eventually grow up and learn. I think that anti-wolfaboos should also do a little bit of maturing too, since they can't seem to ignore and get over what the wolfaboos get up to. I am also a sane wolf lover and I have been reading over a lot of this stuff and I am tired of this crap. Good on you for posting this.

By the way... what's a weeaboo?

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Great-5 In reply to LunaRavenstar [2013-11-19 12:36:54 +0000 UTC]

Actually, in my opinion (which is shared by a lot of people on this site) the dreaded "wolfaboo" doesn't even exist, and was just a falsehood invented by trolls to create more hatred. I know because I have never, ever in my time on deviantART encountered one of these so-called wolfaboos, so I am personally a skeptic as to whether or not they even exist in the first place.


Actually, I feel the same way about the dreaded "rabid bronies" that everyone and their dog seem to enjoy hating on these days...pretty much all the bronies I have met have been extremely sane, open-minded, artistic, cool individuals who tend to not mind at all when other people dislike MLP. The only time I see them having a problem with someone disliking MLP is when that person goes out of their way to mock the show and/or the fandom, such as the countless drawings on this site of ponies drawn in a deliberately ugly way, or ponies getting graphically killed, both meant just to shock and offend MLP fans. So I say it is perfectly reasonable to have a problem with that sort of art. And yes, some of them clop, but is that really that bad? They are not hurting anyone with their fantasies, and despite what trolls say, absolutely 100% of the cloppers I've met have no desire to have sex with a real horse, and are repulsed by the idea.


Wow, I just got off on an unrelated tangent there, didn't I? Time to refocus. Anyways, a weeaboo is someone who is fanatically obsessed with anime and Japanese culture, and was actually the inspiration for the term "wolfaboo." This includes butchering the Japanese language, insisting Japan is the best country in the entire world, thinking anime is the only art style they will ever need, etc. And in my experience, weeaboos DO exist...I know because I was one until about 2010, when I realized I preferred only a select few anime over others, and really got into western (American and European) games such as Halo, Crysis, countless old PC and Amiga games, and the games made by Valve. Yes, blind love for Japanese culture does annoy me (especially when those who are obsessed with Japan are also cyberbullies who pick on my fandom (MLP/bronies) and claim cloppers are terrible "furfags" who deserve to be purged with fire, when the trolls themselves get off to much more vile stuff like guro and loli/shotacon stuff...seriously if you read Encyclopedia Dramatica, you'll see TONS of pro-pedophile/anti-furry sentiment, it is disgusting and hypocritical) but I also think the hate against anime fans has gotten extremely deplorable, and almost as bad as the hate against furries, bronies and so-called "wolfaboos." I am still an anime fan, I may be a "sane" anime fan, but that doesn't mean I approve of bullying members of ANY fandom who like any given thing "too much." If that makes any sense at all.

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LunaRavenstar In reply to Great-5 [2013-11-19 22:22:35 +0000 UTC]

I myself have never seen a "wolfaboo" before so you may be right. Most deviants that post conversations they've had with "wolfboos" always block out the name and their profile picture. At first I thought it was so the "wolfaboo" wouldn't get mobbed by "anti-wolfaboos", but then I realised that maybe the "wolfaboo" doesn't actually exist. I am quite new to all this.

I had never actually realised that there were also a thing for "rabid bronies". Another made up thing I suppose?

Thank you for the clarification on the "weeaboo". I myself aren't really interested in anime but this whole ____aboo thing is getting quite ridiculous.

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Great-5 In reply to LunaRavenstar [2013-12-20 19:45:22 +0000 UTC]

Sorry for the late reply, but here I am. And yes, it's pretty silly of people to invent something like wolfaboos in the first place. Some people are completely convinced of their existence, and maybe, just MAYBE I will believe them if they send me a link to an actual wolfaboo, but until that happens, I will stay a skeptic. And I will probably be skeptical even if presented with an example too, since I tend to be incredibly forgiving of behavior that mean people say is bad, but which isn't actually hurting anyone, to the point where the accusers are acting far worse than the accused.


And as for rabid bronies, I am pretty sure that is made-up too. Yes, I hear people complaining about clopping and rule 34 and how liking that sort of thing automatically makes you a "furfag" or a "ponyfag" or a "rabid brony" who somehow gives the fandom a bad name, but they fail to see that people who are into that sort of thing aren't hurting anyone at all, they are completely innocent as long as they keep their fantasies to themselves and their own circles of friends who also are into that sort of thing. So it is the people who point the finger who are actually hurting people, which as I see it makes them the ones in the wrong. Same goes for anyone who is self-righteously devoted to "outing" any members of a fandom they think are "rabid," especially when all the "rabid" fans want is to have a good time, not be shunned and condemned and told they can't like a given thing "too much," or else they are scum.


The only exception to the "rabid fans aren't actually hurting anyone" rule I've seen is Warhammer 40K's fanbase. I've seen rabid Warhammer fanboys act like the Imperium of Man in real life, violently screaming about other fandoms crossing over with Warhammer being "HERESY!!!" and saying how furries, bronies, wolfaboos, etc. are "xenos" or "heretics" who deserve to be purged with fire. Yes, rabid Warhammer fans pretty much act more like trolls than actual fans, and quite a few of them are guilty of drawing stuff like space marines graphically killing, ripping apart, torturing or stomping ponies to death, and other stuff just to offend bronies who are also into Warhammer. I am a 40K fan, but I am extremely ashamed of how the rabid fanbase acts towards people who just wanna have fun crossing other series over with Warhammer.

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LunaRavenstar In reply to Great-5 [2013-12-21 02:07:46 +0000 UTC]

At first I believed that the 'wolfaboo' did actually exist but I looked deeper at the deviations 'anti-wolfaboos' submitted and I began to doubt. Indeed, if there were REAL proof that one did exist, for example if I recieved a link that showed a conversation or deviaton from a 'wolfaboo' AND their profile and name weren't blocked out, I might just believe that they do exist. There would also have to be more than one piece of evidence. The accusers are taking this too harshly, accusing innocent and sane wolf lovers and spreading hate across deviantart. However, I don't enjoy people putting up deviations saying that deviantart ruined wolves for them. This annoys the shit out of me and I don't believe that they should feel this way or express it because this also relates back to the whole 'wolfaboo' thing and spreads more hate. I also believe that they are being foolish and all I can think of is, "Get over it". Nobody wants to hear about it.

I myself am not a 'bronie' but I start to understand the whole situation with 'rabid bronies'. Not only is it ridiculous but like the 'wolfaboo' situation, it is spreading hate and causing more unnecessary drama. I agree that people should keep it to themselves or friends that share the same passion but people who complain and fictionalize them, should just stop immediately.

I have never heard of 40K before sorry, but the situation with the Warhammer fan boys is just pathetic and wrong. It's basically saying that people who enjoy other things other than Warhammer, should be picked on and are the enemy.

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Jblask In reply to ??? [2013-11-19 01:37:49 +0000 UTC]

 I love wolves. I just hate it when some people overrate them. My sis has a terrific wolf calender and I love every page. (especially the baby wolves!)

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Great-5 In reply to Jblask [2013-11-19 01:40:23 +0000 UTC]

Baby wolves are adorable, yes.

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Jblask In reply to Great-5 [2013-11-19 01:56:41 +0000 UTC]

 Just about anything baby is hard to hate.  I don't like bears but bear cubs... I can't hate those!

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Great-5 In reply to Jblask [2013-11-19 12:48:01 +0000 UTC]

I'm not the biggest fan of human babies, personally. I'll take a kitten or a puppy anyday.

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Jblask In reply to Great-5 [2013-11-19 17:14:03 +0000 UTC]

 Me too. Mostly I don't want a human baby because they're are way more difficult to take care of.

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Great-5 In reply to Jblask [2013-11-19 17:40:09 +0000 UTC]

My mom human babies are the cutest things ever and will always send me pictures on Facebook of the babies of her friends doing "cute" things...I am generally completely unamused, as all I can think about is "they stink, they're messy, they're loud, and they throw food and toys at people."

No thanks

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Jblask In reply to Great-5 [2013-12-12 00:10:29 +0000 UTC]

 Understandable. If it was my kid obviously I'd do anything for them but.... yeah. Baby pictures are not generally interesting to me either. and having baby good thrown at you is obviously not an endearing trait.

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Young-stoaty-chap In reply to ??? [2013-11-11 03:48:45 +0000 UTC]

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Koda-Th-Wolf In reply to ??? [2013-10-24 08:56:17 +0000 UTC]

THANK YOU

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Great-5 In reply to Koda-Th-Wolf [2013-10-24 12:50:18 +0000 UTC]

YOU ARE WELCOME.


But seriously, I'm getting pretty fucking tired of self-righteous, anti "wolfaboo" trolls...I still think the "wolfaboo" concept was just made up to slander and bully people who care about animals. I hate trolls who say that humans are the best, and animals are made to serve humans. As a misanthrope, I think they are the most vile, disgusting and chauvinistic scumbags on the internet.

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Koda-Th-Wolf In reply to Great-5 [2013-10-24 16:04:46 +0000 UTC]

Absolutely. Like, how far has society fallen where people who defend and believe in equality for animals are demonized and cyber-bullied, while those who openly support animal cruelty, trapping, and recreational hunting for the sole purpose of pissing someone else off are celebrated? People have this god complex where they think they're up and above everything else, it's a really destructive mindset. I never thought I'd run into it on deviantart, where, I assumed, ideas were okay to be displayed. Instead I run into an anti-wolf group who claims they exist to express the "truth" about wolves, while in reality they're scrutinizing wolf artists, and many others like these anti-pony groups that exist to try and piss mlp fans off for example. Do people have nothing better to do these days? If you like it, cool. If not, ignore it. I'm just relieved to run into a few rare people who can think rationally and not caravan on this hate going around.  

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Great-5 In reply to Koda-Th-Wolf [2013-10-30 22:28:12 +0000 UTC]

You are definitely right, society has gotten really, really low...it pisses me off to no end how "public opinion" on the internet at-large seems to support the opinions of trolls and cyberbullies, and blame the victims. It really is the calling cards of a cesspool of a (virtual) society where disrespect, bullying and abuse are treated as valuable things and sensitivity, vulnerability and thinking differently are all considered ideals worthy of being stomped on, pissed on and ground to tiny pieces right in front of your eyes.


And yet, it seem a lot of people value that abusive mindset...for instance, I am not religious, but I am spiritual, and seeing the kinds of ways a lot of extreme atheists act towards theists makes me sick. They are disrespectful, enjoy using logic, sarcasm and wit to hurt and tear down their victims and make them "look bad," and basically believe any belief in the nonphysical is "detrimental to human progress." They are just as bad as Bible-thumping fundamentalists in my opinion. I used to know somebody in college who pretty much nailed my theory that atheists (at least the snarky, disrespectful brainiac "skeptics" who enjoy "proving" peoples' stupidity and debunking anything considered spiritual) are more likely to be internet trolls. He basically acted like a real-life troll, making snarky, underhanded, inconsiderate jabs at people he even knew on a day-to-day basis, and on the internet, his favorite website was Encyclopedia Dramatica.


And what a surprise that a couple years later, after we went our separate ways but all discovered MLP: FiM independently of each other, but all around the same time, he became one of those disrespectful so-called "sane" MLP fans who refuse to be called bronies and enjoy bashing their own fandom and "outing" any bronies they consider to be "rabid," such as cloppers (despite the fact that the so-called "rabid bronies" are not doing anything to harm other people, within the privacy of their own room, so bullying them is morally wrong.) I remember that guy got on my ass when he found out that I drew a pony rule 34 pic one time (that pic has long since been deleted and reuploaded to my alternate dA account for art of that sort,) telling me I was "just asking" to be trolled for drawing "cartoon horse v*gina"...and my drawing wasn't even all that graphic to begin with. That guy was just an ass, I still speak with him on Facebook from time to time, but I pretty much keep my distance, because he is a brilliant example of my theory in action. I bet he'd be a human supremacist as well...

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Koda-Th-Wolf In reply to Great-5 [2013-10-30 23:57:44 +0000 UTC]

Personally, I like to think of the internet as a cesspool for the true nature of humans. With no social "rules" constraining anyone and anonymity behind an i.p address, people are free to say, think, and do whatever they want. Which could be a good thing, as is this site where people are free to draw and share ideas. On the flip side, I find myself in places you would never imagine. The website you mentioned, encyclopedia dramatica, is one of them. I was mindblown at the lengths some people will go for the sole purpose of demonizing or "trolling" someone and how such behaviors are so common and celebrated on the internet. I'm not religious, nor am I spiritual, but this topic has to be the best example of human pretentiousness. Countless arguments I've witnessed between atheists and theists who try and denounce the other to feed their own ego and make themselves feel better. It's scary sometimes how humans think.   


On dA, this crap is especially ridiculous. Groups are formed against popular things (furries, mlp are probably the two best examples) in order to scrutinize members and artists of the fandoms. Even more so, that i've discovered, they go even further than that. Check out some of the stamps around here, some like "I support horse slaughter" or "I support wolf hunting" supported by opinion and made for the purpose of eliciting responses from either communities. People would go out and say that they support things like horse slaughter or wolf hunting for the purpose of pissing someone else off.... worse thing is the sense of satisfaction they get from it. I understand that people go to lengths just to feel better about themselves... but I just don't get it sometimes.      

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Hiaad In reply to ??? [2013-10-21 15:41:16 +0000 UTC]

one thing you didn't mention that when people makes stamps about saving endangered animals like "forget the wolves and save the (insert any name of endangered animals)" or "let the wolves die because (insert any name of endangered animals) deserves more protection" so tell me is that gonna save the endangered animals?? IMO the wolfaboos are actually anti-wolfaboos who pretend themselves as wolfaboos cause real wolfaboos don't exist

we know wolves are popular but other animals be more popular than the wolves (I'm looking at you,#UnpopularAnimals )

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Great-5 In reply to Hiaad [2013-10-21 15:44:23 +0000 UTC]

You're like the third or fourth person who has commented on this stamp and proposed that "wolfaboos" don't even exist, and was just a concept invented by trolls. I am starting to think that may be the truth.


Trolls say the darndest things, huh?

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Nyaasu In reply to Great-5 [2014-02-19 03:12:12 +0000 UTC]

They're more rare than people seem to think, but they DO exist, I've met at least two. xD

...Out of the thousands of people I have encountered on this website.

So yes, they do exist, it's not a made up concept. But it is far more scarce than people act like it is.

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Hiaad In reply to Great-5 [2013-10-21 15:54:09 +0000 UTC]

if I find the person behind the wolfaboo nonsense I would love to tear the person's skin apart I mean seriously this anti-wolfaboo bullsh*t has gone waaaay too far.  I triple dare them to tell me where the wolfaboos' house is?

of course! they do say the darnest things

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Young-stoaty-chap In reply to ??? [2013-10-06 22:08:20 +0000 UTC]

I have never met a wolfaboo in my life. There is far more hatred of wolfaboos than there are wolfaboos themselves.

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Great-5 In reply to Young-stoaty-chap [2013-10-07 17:55:34 +0000 UTC]

Oh my god, you're right...I haven't met any wolfaboos either, to be completely honest. Who's to say the whole "wolfaboo" drama wasn't completely made up by trolls as an excuse for hatred?

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Young-stoaty-chap In reply to Great-5 [2013-10-07 18:01:40 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't be surprised.

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wwwarea In reply to ??? [2013-09-20 03:47:18 +0000 UTC]

Yes, exactly! I had a huge problem with these stamps, judging those for loving wolves and embracing the magic people has.
I mean I seen offensive insults judging those who liked the movie "Alpha and Omega" and claim there opinion against it was "facts" or something like: "Wolfaboo the movie!" "The movie sucks and people who like because of wolves is bad!", etc. I mean it's hate.

By the way, I hear from some "anti-wolfaboos" saying it's OK to like wolves, but not OK to love them. Even though the info on here may be talking about liking, I see nothing wrong with loving them too. If I'm loving wolves a lot, want to embrace the safety of them, or even wanting to be one, without forcing that on anyone, I do not see anything wrong with that at all. Note: I may not be exacly like that, but even if I was, I don't see a problem with it.

Don't you kind of agree what I mean?

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Great-5 In reply to wwwarea [2013-09-23 15:08:37 +0000 UTC]

I've never heard of the movie Alpha and Omega, but I couldn't agree more with your comment. I've got a huge problem with the so-called "sane" fans of practically ANYTHING...their mentality seems to be something along the lines if "to be a 'good' fan, you have to only kind of like a given thing, but not love it, and also you have to mock and put down other fans for liking it too much"...I see this with MLP, anime, wolves, you name it. It seems contradictory and stupid to me that the "sane" wolf fans say they love wolves, and yet they are often members of #Anti-Wolf ...sure, that group claims to be against "wolfaboos," not wolves themselves, but just look at the fucking title! I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't just "sane" wolf lovers in that group, but also outright wolf haters too! I only think that because that's how the anti-rabid brony groups are...groups like #Anti-MLP-FIM have both "sane" MLP fans (those who reject the term 'brony' to describe themselves and act like elitist hipster douchebags to actual, legitimate bronies and pegasisters,) and outright haters, and it seems the "sane" fans in many cases prefer the company of haters to the actual fans, just because the fans themselves they consider to be "rabid" and thus worthy of being treated as lower than dirt. It's a confusing, barbaric and disgusting practice, and I am surprised not more people on the internet can see that.


I also HIGHLY dislike how a lot of trolls who go after furries, bronies, "wolfaboos," otherkin, etc. also seem to be overzealous in thinking humans are better than animals. I am a misanthrope, and while I am more optimistic than most of that sort (I believe humankind can be "surpassed" as Nietzsche once said, evolving into something more than the filthy apes we are today, through proper morals and honor,) I do tend to get pretty pissed off at seeing people holding humans to such a high esteem, when we are the ones responsible for fucking up this planet to begin with...polluting the atmosphere, killing each other over religion/politics/money/etc, hunting endangered species to extinction, the list can go on, and on, and on. Pro-human trolls seem to act just like the goddamn Imperium from Warhammer 40K, thinking humans are "glorious" and "perfect," and that anyone who apparently likes animals more than humans is subhuman scum worthy of being killed with fire. I get how they like to bring furries and otherkin "back to reality" by saying stuff like "you are still a human just like the rest of us, whether you like it or not," but even if it is the truth it still comes across as a douchebag move, especially when the person legitimately believes they were, say, a wolf in a past life. I believe in past lives and reincarnation, so I personally can't completely rule out that possibility. Lol, maybe I was a horse in a past life, since that explains my being such a devoted brony and sometimes wishing I could turn into a pony and spend the rest of my days in Equestria. Certainly better than this shithole Earth.

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wwwarea In reply to Great-5 [2013-10-04 06:44:48 +0000 UTC]

Very interesting. And yes, due to people of humans on here, I tend to hate living on this planet a lot. I always wanted to leave I think, and never come back when I die (Or if there was some sort of other thing causing me to go off.) If the world was less-corrupted, I would at least come back sometimes.
As for a rabid fan and a Hater, I would say "haters" (Or similar/same) are worse, since the term of that, is like censorship against people who expresses them selves. A rabid fan can basically be fine, as long if the fan does not bash any other personal interest expression.

As for the groups, yes I heard some people in there love wolves but they tend to bring 97% unnecessary things from them, and some that are claims to be "facts" not 100 % proven.

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 13:43:11 +0000 UTC]

PS, I am a member (well, almost) of anti-wolf and wolves are my favourite canine.

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to ??? [2013-06-09 13:38:52 +0000 UTC]

It is the ones that harrass you, spam you, doing death threats, breaking the rules, etc that I hate. Should we just "deal with" THAT kind?!

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Lalunabluena In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2013-09-29 10:49:23 +0000 UTC]

there are wolf lovers that are like that. But making  hate groups, hate art and hate stamps will make them harass and bully you more. And why cant you just report every wolfaboo comment that you see?   

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to Lalunabluena [2013-09-29 12:29:48 +0000 UTC]

Reporting I find does nothing. If a wolfaboo makes a nasty comment, they should expect nasty replies. 

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Lalunabluena In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2013-09-29 23:36:56 +0000 UTC]

nasty replies will give them what they deserve but the majority of the time it wont get rid of them. In fact it just makes them worse than they were before (look at the comment that you replied to). I personally think trying to get rid of those type of people is a better idea that taking revenge on them.  

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to Lalunabluena [2013-09-30 01:49:36 +0000 UTC]

That is true. But wolfaboos will always exist. It is fun making fun of them.

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Lalunabluena In reply to Little-rolling-bean [2013-09-30 13:00:57 +0000 UTC]

I guess your wright  about the crazy fans always existing and its the same exact same deal for everything else that has a fandom. But hey i still think that at least getting rid of the crazy fans that you come across will be good enough, the hate art and hate stamps will come off as offensive to almost all wolf fans even the sane ones(I dont consider people who bash or insult their own fandoms to be sane fans) and that comment that I originally posted also applied to hate art that was insulting wolves (that's the kind of stuff that will make crazy fans more crazy). And if I still didnt change your mind that's ok just dont try to change my mind ether.                  

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Little-rolling-bean In reply to Lalunabluena [2013-09-30 14:43:41 +0000 UTC]

I know making comics will not get them away. But as a past animalaboo the comics with logic did change me. Like ones saying "no wolves are born in winter" and a funny parody drawing. But hey, they are fun to draw and fun to read. 

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