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Great-5 — Quit bitching and enjoy the wolves...
Published: 2012-10-10 03:49:19 +0000 UTC; Views: 6940; Favourites: 154; Downloads: 17
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Two years, a hundred faves and many enraged humanaboos later, this stamp is still going strong. I mean wow, it's in only one group, and I don't think it's my best stamp by far, but it still has a hundred faves. I'm not even that big of a wolf fan, I just made this stamp to jump on the wolfaboo/anti-wolfaboo drama bandwagon that still rages to this day
and to make people think and question whether a person really does hate something, or if they're just hating on the thing to piss other people off. And apparently, wolfaboos DO exist...they are people who love wolves so much that it's at the expense of other animals, humanity included. And I actually do think that is pretty stupid, since there are so many more animals to appreciate than just wolves.You can't like just wolves and nothing else. In a corrupt world, where the strong prey on the weak, and a faceless cabal of sadistic, Machiavellian nihilists operates coldly on detached logic and preaches a crooked gospel of nihilism, human supremacy, social Darwinism, absolute skepticism, slander, hypocrisy, ridicule and "othering" of targeted groups, the downtrodden must stand strong and present a unified, mature image in the face of an injustice. "They" govern what can and cannot be said under threat of blackmail, persecution and systematic identity-destruction, so remember, you are only the bigger man if you don't make an insufferable fool of yourself...because when you do, "They" have already won.
Nationalistic monologue aside, so far I've gotten faves from devoted wolf fans, sane wolf fans, animal fans in general, moderate human fans who also care about animals, etc...a whole host of interesting people faving this stamp. Keep being awesome, dA
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Okay, I think I've found something even stupider than hating on "rabid" bronies, furries, weeaboos etc...at least those ones almost made sense given the fucked-up things some members of those three aforementioned fandoms do, but apparently now liking wolves is something worthy of being cyberbullied over!
It seems like nowadays anti-wolf stamps and hate art mocking people for drawing "speshul sparkledogs" almost outnumbers the decent, artful, positive drawings of wolves and wolf furries on this site. The whole thing reeks of the same old "let's hate on X because X is popular, and by hating X we are the new 'in' crowd, above all those dumb fans!" mentality, it's immature, embarrassing and really makes me think this site has gone steadily downhill since the start of this decade.
Me? I like wolves, not as much as many people on this site do, but they are 2nd place on my list of favorite animals, with cats being the first on the list. I may be a sane wolf lover, but I still hate seeing how barbaric and petty people are acting over this whole "wolfaboo" thing.
Finally, as for wolfaboos wishing they were animals instead of humans, as a misanthrope I can't say that's too unreasonable a fantasy. Especially when humans are the ones responsible for fucking up our environment in the first place, and killing each other over religion, politics, money, etc. I see stamps basically glorifying humans killing animals, or saying humans are "better" than animals, just as a drama-generating measure designed to offend wolfaboos, furries, otherkin, etc. and generate more butthurt and lulz, and it makes me lose even more faith in humanity.
Sorry for my tl;dr rant here, I just felt like saying this. That is all.
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I should probably try to convince you to agree with my thoughts but its pointless and i really want this argument to end now. Plus i can always just put a big rant in my gallery and disable the comments.
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Not gonna lie, I think extreme wolf fans are fucking stupid. Still, every time somebody tries to take the moral high ground above "wolfaboos" they make themselves look like idiots.
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Wolves are cool! 
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finally, somebody said it!
honestly i don't get what the big deal is about.
some people are gonna love wolves a little more than other animals. that only means the wolf is their favorite animal, it doesn't automatically mean that they hate the others.
where the hell do people get this idea?
in my opinion, these fabled wolfaboos really don't exist.
if they do, it's a rather miniscule population that only seems large and out of control due to people hyping up the situation and making it much bigger than what it really is, because not yet have i seen one person who completely dedicates their lives to wolves, hate all the other animals and know absolutely no facts about them...truthfully, i see the opposite of that almost daily.
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Funny you mention wolfaboos possibly not even existing. I feel the exact same way about the alleged "rabid" bronies whom everyone on the internet enjoys hating on. I have lots of friends who are bronies, and NONE of them fit the definition of "rabid" perfectly...some of them clop, but that's pretty much the only "rabid" thing they do, and the fact that they pretty much keep their fantasies to themselves and only tell their close friends really kinda makes them look even less rabid. So really, I've only seen examples of "rabid bronies" from screencaps and people complaining about them all the time. I'd imagine the same is true for these so-called wolfaboos. And I really hate the term "wolfaboo" in the first place because it was created by trolls to degrade wolf fans...it's not as bad as calling a furry a "furfag" or a brony a "ponyfag," but it still annoys me, especially since wolves are my 2nd favorite animal.
I also don't like how it seems a lot of "sane" or more-educated wolf fans stoop to joining groups like #Anti-Wolf yet at the same time say they love wolves...it's the same bullshit as an MLP fan calling himself/herself "sane" but then joining a group like #MLP-is-crap and trolling and bullying other members of the fandom at every chance they get. I really feel like making a stamp saying something like "hating the fandom you're in and trolling other fans doesn't make you a sane fan, it makes you a hateful little tardmuffin." And that can apply to anime, MLP, wolves, etc. any fandom you'd want!
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i'd fave that stamp a million times if you did, and if i could.
but i agree with EVERYTHING you just said.
truthfully i hate it when people say they're "sane" fans of anything really. mainly because no one seems to understand the word "sane" anymore. since when does sane mean actively seeking out making fun of others?
if that's sane then i must be crazy...
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Yay you agree? Awesome!
Yeah tell me about it. The term "sane" has been perverted over the years to now mean someone who mocks and trolls other fans, draws hate art, makes anti-stamps, and all in all is a cynical, sarcastic, predatory A-hole. If that's "sane" then consider me "rabid"!
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Remember, there are no vegetarian wolves. They will eat your face off, even if you love them. Especially if you love them, because you'll let your stupid guard down because they're so majestic and pretty or some shit.
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I doubt anyone is really that dumb.
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I love you for making this stamp!
That whole hate against wolf fans makes me sick and is nothing like a new type of discrimination...
I mean, what the hell is wrong with loving wolves? Just because SOME wolf fans act immature, it´s no reason for cyberbullying- at least you can find immature fans in every fandom! Generalizations of any kind don´t even make sense- it´s like when people call Arabs "religious fanatics" just because of A FEW people who want all non-believers dead!
Speaking of myself, none of the wolf fans I have to do with is an immature idiot (because I don´t have to do with idiots in general), the ones I know are really educated about nature and animals....
And though I have a true passion for the wolf, I appreciate the animal kingdom as a whole! (my gallery and favourites don´t consist only of wolves, wolves are just a part of it, though that part is really important for me) And if someone supports things I don´t support, like trophy hunting (which doesn´t count only for wolves, I´m against wildlife exploitation in general) or taxidermy for "decorations", well, I just leave him alone instead of bashing and flaming him, because I can´t change his opinion and such behaviour would lead only to more hate against wolf fans! In turn, when people don´t like wolves, why not leave wolf fans alone? Commenting things you dislike is nothing but a waste of time, instead of that you should promote what you love!
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None of the wolf fans you know are immature idiots? Yeah, the so-called "rabid" or "crazy" fans have this strange way of only being known through people complaining about them...rather conveniantly, they have never shown their faces to me, and I only even know about them in the first place from screencapped "lulz" and general hype about how they are the worst thing to have ever hit the internet. I'm a brony, a sane one if I do say so myself, and none of the other bronies I know are rabid idiots...I think fans who go out of their way to antagonize any members of a given fandom who they think are worthy of mockery, and who join anti-groups, are the worst part of any fandom, be it anime, wolves, MLP, Sonic, etc.
Yes, we all should just promote what we love, rather than mocking and bitching about what we hate and the people who like what we hate, but sadly positive stamps are severely lacking in the popularity department. As for popular stamps that get hundreds of faves without even being submitted to all that many groups, it sadly seems that hate stamps and anti-stamps are where it's at. And that little fact makes me hate humanity.
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You´re right! in my opinion, trolls often generalize ALL wolf fans as rabid and crazy.... even if some wolf fans can act like jerks, it´s a dwindling minority that gives the whole fandom a bad name!
Still, it is no reason for cyberbullying..... Hate against fandoms in general is pointless and unnecessary, regardless if it´s against wolves, anime, Pokemon, MLP, Twilight, Harry Potter or whatever! Speaking of myself, I don´t like Twilight (not because of its popularity, but because of the fact that almost every story with a young female protagonist turns out to be a love story- as if finding the "dream prince" is the most important thing for a girl) but would I join a Twilight hate group because of that? HELL NO!!! Because I don´t want to be responsible for hurting other´s feelings... Also, I don´t like people who show off their collections of animal skins and taxidermy- but like I stated in my previous comment, I think throwing random death-threats at those people would help NOTHING! Though seeing dead animals presented like collectibles deeply hurts me....
About the stamps, you´re right again! Hate and drama stamps often get way more favs than positive ones, sometimes deviants even disable comments on stamps that carry a positive message because they fear being trolled (which I often see on wolf-related stamps) In fact this issue was what made me discover that the hate against wolves and wolf fans even exists! I was just browsing for some nice wolf stamps to put in my profile having absolutely no clue, and then all those aggressive hate messages appeared.... No kidding- I literally sat in front of the computer shedding tears!
Thanks a lot for responding to my comment, you are a really nice and smart person!
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I don't like Twilight either...I've said before that someone should sick a vampile hunter like Blade, Alucard or Simon Belmont on the sparkly vampires, but that's attacking the characters themselves, not the fans. I would NEVER bully a Twilight fan, as much as I dislike the series. On a different note, I'm grateful that Twilight Sparkle gave me something non-lame to think about when someone puts the word "sparkle" after the word "twilight." Yay!
And taxidermists and people who hunt endangered animals can go climb a wall of dicks for all I care...as an animal lover and an environmentalist, I hate them too. And I also hate how trolls and cyberbullies make stamps glorifying those despicable acts just to generate more "lulz" when they offend people like you. It's beyond disgusting and barbaric, it's immoral.
Oh my god you're right...I HAVE seen positive stamps with the comments disabled. That's just so sad, how people have to do that to avoid being hated just for the mere act of liking something! It really makes me wish I could do something about it, like create a petition for people to sign for deviantART's moderators to SEVERELY crack down on trolls and hate groups. I fucking hate how it seems a lot of dA's moderators seem to think trolling and cyberbullying is "all part of the fun," seeing as senior "respected" member `MPsai is a member of #Grievances , a groups which seems to be some sort of cyberbullying ring, and is friends with several known trolls. Why Grievances is still operational, yet the Butthurt Brigade got shut down in April is beyond me. DeviantART's moderators should go the extra mile and abolish EVERY last hate group, troll group, cyberbullying ring, etc. and run those members out of town on a rail. That's at least how I see it.
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To be honest, I find some Twilight parodies funny (which even some fans laugh about) What I either don´t like is Narnia, because it portrays wolves in a negative way (and the good guy is of course a LION, which is nevvvvver such a bloodthirsty predator as wolves are *Sarcasm mode on* ) and a lot of characters are too clicheed.. 👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Still I like the concept of leaving the real world and entering a fantasy world (and btw the movie soundtrack is WONDERFUL) but I wouldn´t go around and call all Narnia fans "Stupid wolf haters" because that´s more than ignorant- in fact, I know some people who love the series and are actually big wolf fans who are intelligent enough to realize that hating wolves because of Narnia is as stupid as hating hyenas because of Lion King (I love LK and I think hyenas are adorable!)
My opinion about taxidermy is rather divided. I accept taxidermy when it´s used as models for museums and schools (of course with naturally died animals from the wild or zoos- no animal should be killed to be mounted) or when native people like Inuit have no other choices than hunting and wearing animal fur (at least they hunt only for survival and respect the animals they have to kill) But when people are using dead animals like decorations or even collectibles because "their beautiful", it´s just tasteless and repulsive! I collect a lot of things with wolves on it because I love them (like T-shirts, bed garnitures, plushies or figures) but I´d NEVER have something from a dead wolf like teeth, claws or fur (What I have is an antler that a deer had shed off, and I have no problem when people find some pieces of animal skeletons in nature and keep them at home)
Once I wanted to join a group about Arctic Foxes because they´re one of my very favourite animals (I think they´re cute as hell!) but when I saw that the group had a folder for "Taxidermy" I hesitated, because I don´t want something like that in my watchbox.... You wouldn´t post pictures of road-killed cats in a group for cat lovers because that´s disrespectful! Taxidermists have their own groups, and I let them alone because spamming the group profiles with comments like "YOU EVIL MONSTAHS!" would only make them call me "STUPID FUCKING WOLFABOO!"
What also makes me mad are those stamps with messages like "Save tigers/sharks/whales/whatever, KILL WOLVES!" Because the people who make them assume that all wolf fans wouldn´t care a shit about other species (I support wildlife conservation in general, as I support human rights) Wouldn´t it be enough to just say "I love
I would be a wolf fan even if they weren´t that popular, because I think they´re beautiful, fascinating and social animals, and I don´t care about their popularity! (at least I know the difference between a WOLF and a WEREWOLF...) Stamps like that don´t raise awareness, but make wolf fans feel like shit! and hey, if people complain about "seeing wolves everywhere" why don´t they draw what they love?
If there´s any group that makes wolf fans ashamed of loving wolves, it´s not the so-called "wolfaboos" (I always write that word in quotation marks because I don´t support the use of it) it´s the wolf-haters!
Do you know what I assume? Trolls bash wolf fans because they show compassion, and in their eyes showing compassion and emotions is "for pussies"... it´s just a sign how downhill society has gone, because in my opinion people who show compassion deserve to be honored!
And you´re right: The Terms of Service should have more strict rules against trolling and all anti-groups (not only anti-wolf groups, also anti-anime, anti-Twilight, anti-MLP, anti-Potter or whatever) should be banned constantly, because this site is for ART, not for BULLYING!
WORDS ALONE CANNOT EXPRESS HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU AND THIS STAMP.
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THANKYOU.
Educating young wolf lovers is one thing,
but mindlessly flaming them and calling all their 'i h8 wolf hunting' stamps is just sad, half of the time the stamps are all 2 - 3 years old, before the wolfaboo bandwagon begun.
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You're welcome
When exactly DID the anti-wolfaboo craze begin anyways? I don't remember it before 2010, so it must be a pretty new thing. Also, 2010 seemed to be the year when anti-stamps and hate groups really took off in popularity, and cyberbullying and lulz capping became one of the more popular things to do on dA, at least among cruel and sadistic A-holes. It really makes me think that this site's community has gone WAY downhill in just two short years. For instance, I can't even search the word "pony" without being accosted with anti-brony and anti-MLP stamps and hate art, or the word "wolf" without being accosted with anti-wolfaboo stamps and other pro-wolf stamps saying they're NOT a wolfaboo, as if liking wolves is suddenly a great sin simply because of wolfaboos. The people who make anti-stamps complain that the kinds of art that they hate are fucking everywhere, they've polluted our site with enough of their own anti-art, and it's so disgustingly POPULAR that everytime people like you or me search something we're BOUND to find a great deal of hate art on any given subject.
It fuels my misanthropy, it really does...
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deviantart is becoming deviantWHINE.
The problem with this place is the minute something gets popular here, you always get the edgy 16 year old who makes these anti-groups/stamps to gain popularity. They get tons of hate comments on their groups and stamps and then BAW-quit DA leaving the members of the group to deal with the angry "fantards".
these people can give but cant take
as for the pony thing i agree too, hate for FiM is getting a little out of control. Too many are hating it for being 'overrated' and that's not a good excuse for hating something. If you don't it for animation style, the idiot side of the fandom or prefere older gens then ok thats cool, but hating because its popular and fills up your inbox is lammeeee
ha same here and these anti-wolfaboo people wonder why there's tons of 'I like animals more than humans' stamps
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Uggh, yes it really is. I'm sick of it, but I know bitching about the problem might make me BECOME part of the problem. I guess the trick is to stay positive.
Anti-groups are the bane of my existence, 'nuff said. I don't care how much even I myself dislike what the group is against, I will have nothing to do with the organized trolling, outing, screencapping and cyberbullying of whatever clique the anti-group targets. I find it to be s disgusting and amoral practice, even when used for supposedly "righteous" purposes like reporting users who violate the TOS...in fact, that's almost worse. There is nothing wrong with just quietly and discreetly reporting deviations and users who are breaking the rules, then letting the mods do the rest. No need to let doing the "right thing" get to your head and start cyberbullying and screencapping the rulebreaker. When people do that they are just adding to the problem.
As for the hatred of MLP, I both agree and disagree at the same time. I agree that hating it because it's popular is kind of stupid, however I disagree that it's entirely stupid...because face it, MLP art is EVERYWHERE now, so outright haters might feel alienated by its ubiquity...I once saw a stamp saying "I don't hate it [any given series] because it's popular, I hate it because it's FUCKING EVERYWHERE" and I kind of agree. Because even if I'm a brony and actually enjoy and even draw my own pony art quite a bit, art from other fandoms that are just as ubiquitous can annoy the piss out of me. Like Hetalia and Homestuck...I don't like either series, they don't interest me, and I'm sick of seeing countless fanart for it, but I'm not gonna go out and flame people for liking that, because I know that's not the right thing to do.
Finally, as for those who don't like MLP because of the fandom, I disagree with that because A: it is perfectly okay to like a series while at the same time distancing yourself from any fans whom you don't agree with, and B: most of the "casual" MLP fans I've met, who love the show but hate the fanbase with a passion, have been some of the absolute worst people I've ever had the misfortune of meeting online. Drawing fugly hate art, making anti stamps, joining anti "rabid brony" groups (as far as I know #MLP-is-crap was tailor-made for this kind of fan,) creating "Fuck No" tumblrs, deliberately offending and antagonizing any brony who is thought to be "rabid," screencapping butthurt and lulz like any other cyberbully, the list of infractions goes on and on. Because I've never had to put up with any of the accused "rabid" bronies myself, I personally find this kind of casual fan to be the worst disgrace to the fandom.
I can't say I like animals more than humans, and I'd DEFINITELY not want to BE an animal...I don't mind being a human even if I DO tend to hate humanity as a whole, but still, people have every reason to make "I like animals more than humans" stamps. Because face it, humanity sucks. Thanks for reading my late and tl;dr reply
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You do know wolfaboo doesn't just mean 'someone that likes wolves', right?
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it doesn't mean someone that likes wolves, but I'm guessing this comment is quite old since I can't remember it and my views of wolfaboo have changed, I don't use it anymore.
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Umm...yeah. I realized that after I made this stamp. I did some research and yes, many of the examples of so called "wolfaboo" behavior DO seem quite obnoxious, but that doesn't change the fact that bullying them and making anti-groups over this whole thing is something I strongly disagree with. Most of these "wolfaboos" have a serious problem, and I've mentioned this to a previous commentator and I'll mention it again, I don't think they belong on the internet...I think they belong in a home, at least until they stop acting like freaks. They deserve to have their behavior changed, not to be mocked and bullied on the internet. That may sound harsh, but I don't see how trolling and attempting to ruin someone's online life over it is any better.
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You know, this may be old, but I believe "Otherkins" are not freaks, nor should they stay in the closets, the real problem is the trolls judging people for who they are honestly. I don't think it's fair that those kind of "wolfaboos" should be censored or remain in closets, or just because there are trolls out there regarding that honestly. Otherkins should stand up for who they are regardless of any risks, not be abused because of what they believed personality as long if they are not really hurting anyone.
Standing up and ignoring trolls often helps get rid of them, I heard.
The only real problem there is, is when one tries to pretend "Wolves" are morally the only one that should live and others should die and caused behaviors of that, honestly I think.
Sorry I said this, it's just the comment about them makes me really sad and isn't fair, at all.
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Actually, to be completely honest, I kinda modified my own views there in order to humor that one user...I did not want her to start trolling me because of my defensive position regarding wolfaboos and otherkin. But anyways, don't worry, I completely agree with you...sorry for the confusion.
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Oh I understand, though you could of been honest or try to think another way or else it could be promoting hate or confusion, but I understand and it's already been done. xD
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OKAE
SRSLY
PEEPULL HAETIN ON WOLFFZ
IM NUTT EVUN A HYOOJJ FANN OFF WOLFSSSS
BUTT
I STILL GOTS RESPEKT FOAR DEM
\DER KOOL
SO
WAT DA FUW PEEPULL
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Yeah it's a dumb fad, hating on people who like wolves.
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SRSLY
ITZ DA STROOPEDSST TING AIVE EVUR HERD
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Stroopid? Lol that sounds tasty...
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UUUUUUUUUUH
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
DOOOD
UM
WURDZ ARNT FOOD
JUSS
DOANT
PLZ
YOO KOOLD HURT YORSELF
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But it sounds look a kind of waffle...I like waffles.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DOANT MAEK DA SAEM MIS-STEAK DAT I MAED
I THOT MISTAEK
WAS MIS-STEAK
AND I AET IT
IT DIDNT TAEST TOO GOOD
AND I REGRERT IT
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lol was it undercooked and it gave you food poisoning? Careful with that shit...
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NOH
IT WUZ JUSS REELEE HOTT
IT BURNT WIT DA PASSCHUN OFF A THOWOOSAND SUNS
MAI AIEZ WATURD
I DIDUNT FEEL TOO GOOD
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I like wolves, hell I love them. They're absolutely beautiful and inspiring creatures. But going around barking and howling and screaming "I'm a wolf" is just screaming for the wrong sorts of attention. There are plenty of people who have a deep, strong belief that they are truly the reincarnation of a wolf or whatever animal, but they don't go around acting down right right ridiculous and spewing false facts about the species they love. -That- is what a wolfaboo is, not the reasonable people who love or are even obsessed with wolves. XD
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...yeah. Good point. But that doesn't change the fact that hating on people like that, antagonizing them and screencapping the resulting "lulz" (which if done right could effectively ruin their online life from everyone mocking and hating them constantly) I find to be a despicable act, regardless of whether the victim is a furry, a brony, a weeaboo or a wolfaboo. It just shows badly on the part of people spreading the dirt...stuff like that belongs on Encyclopedia Dramatica, not deviantART (even though I really wish that site would cease with the giving away of personal information of certain users to target, and systematically giving instructions on how to cyberbully them,) and said wolfaboos should seek serious help with a therapist, or in extreme cases may even need to live in a mental institution. I don't think anybody, no matter how "lulzy" their behavior is, deserves to be humiliated in front of the entire internet, even if I highly disagree with the ways the person acts. Like I said, if it's serious enough, that person should quit the internet and seek immediate therapeutic help.
Actually, the very fact that anti-stamps and hate art on this site can amass untold hundreds of faves without even being submitted to all that many groups, while positive stamps NEED to be submitted to dozens of groups just to get half that many faves, is a testament to just how downhill this site has gone.
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I agree, a lot of these people have serious attention and self esteem issues when they take certain things to a certain extent and do need help. But they aren't going to find it online where people can be anonymous and cruel. It's an unfortunate cycle...the internet can be a saviour or a damnation. You can be subjected to unimaginable cruelties or finally find your niche by meeting others like yourself. I don't like people egging them on like that, a lot of people are very sensitive and passionate about their fandoms and will fight tooth and nail to defend them.(Encyclopedia dramatica needs to fucking die...>_> They're terrible! D: )
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Especially since I used to know someone in person a few years ago, at my old college. I will NOT mention his name or any bit of his personal information, but he was basically an otherkin, and he kept talking about his various fantasies nonstop...while I didn't mind really (he was my best friend for that initial year and a half down in the big city,) I just KNEW that he would become a complete lolcow on the internet, and it led me to feel extremely protective of him. I can't say I have the same level of sympathy for complete strangers who act like that, but I still don't like seeing them act so openly abnormal right out in the open, on an internet that is pretty much already dominated by trolls and cyberbullies. That's why I think those people don't even deserve to use the internet in the first place, if they can't keep their obsessions to themselves.
I sometimes have fantasies about saying or doing something totally out of the ordinary as a means to lash out at everything I find to be an injustice on the internet, from everyone hating on bronies now, to some fetishes being unfairly defended to the death while others are reviled and hated by everyone, to innocent people being humiliated for no good reason. I kind of see the internet as being a cesspool of degenerate filth, barbaric behavior and the strong preying on the weak again and again and again, and my self-righteous side makes me wish I could assume a fearless, high and mighty attitude and make a bold statement saying how all my enemies will "burn to ash with the cleansing flame of the gods," which I guess kinda rips off what the Imperium says in Warhammer 40K. But I know that if I were to say anything like that my good reputation online would be ruined forever.
I used to think ED was funny...the article about that Chris-Chan guy made me realize that, as a young autistic male, becoming like him is my worst nightmare, even if I really don't approve of how much he's bullied, he does does ask for it. But I still wish that site would die already, and I wish cyberbullies didn't rule dA with an iron fist, or at least public opinion of them was more deservingly negative.
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Yeah, but people also need to learn how to manage themselves. Sure it's a nice big internet we have out here yes but it bothers me when people don't find the proper outlets and company for their interests. I guess an example of that would be coming to DA and posting things or saying things that violate their policies and then the person sits around and totally rages saying they were banned because of their "Different beliefs" or "sexuality" and I'm like no. No man. Shut the hell up because you didn't follow certain rules they banned you.
It's just...not appropriate. Even pushing the boundary can cause this sort of flare up, which is usually the attention some of the more outspoken people just crave and want to roll around in. It's simple, express yourself here and express yourself -THERE-. Just make sure where ever you're doing it is within the policies of a site and you know how to educate those who come up all aggressive like. Hard to say..I'm just so torn about the whole issue. Both people can be seen as lousy in my opinion, not every single one but as a general sweep perhaps.
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Yes, people who violate dA's policies DO deserve to be banned if they repeatedly do so, but I don't like it when trolls go all moralfag and actually bully people for breaking the rules...if someone is breaking dA's TOS then just do the right thing and quiently and anonymously report the offending deviations. No need to antagonize them for it to cause needless drama which you then screencap like it's some kind of sick "trophy," that's just letting doing the right thing get to your head, and I see it all too often on dA...hell, I see entire groups dedicated to making rule violators butthurt in addition to just getting them banned.
And then there's the issue of people who clearly ARE violating dA's TOS, but who are too popular to get banned. Like for instance, I really can't stand =Teruchan because he repeatedly draws underage girls in sexual situations, yet he has such a massive, undeserved fanbase that anytime he gets banned his fans seem to bitch and moan to get him brought back. Similarly, way too many cyberbullies on this site (like those who are members of Grievances, or were members of the Butthurt Brigade while it was still around) seem to know EXACTLY what to say to cause maximum rage and butthurt in their victims while still staying JUST within dA's policies on harassment..usually it results in the victim raging so much that the VICTIM is the one who gets reported for harassment and banned, while the bully who antagonized them in the first place is seen as some kind of "good Samaritan" for banning them. It's a disgusting and unfair practice, and I really don't know how dA's unbanning system works, but people who get banned should STAY banned.
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It's just a form of sadism, they get off to hurting others. And thanks to the anonymity of the internet they feel they can get away with it without any real consequences or punishments. Unfortunate and painful for the people who are on the sides observing both issues. :/ As for fan bases for the creepers well..that's their buisiness. They might think they can get away with everything because their on a high and mighty horse but they'll fall off for good eventually.
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