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From intelligent life all throughout the cosmos, theories about the universe's formation have been put forth by the great thinkers, philosophers, and commoners alike. Some say that the universe has simply always been, while others say that the universe goes through cycles of death and rebirth. One theory states that the current iteration of the universe was created by some incomprehensible force , and that this stage of the universe will eventually cease to be, destroyed by the antithesis of creation . This theory states that the current universe will collapse into Nothing, from which it will be born anew.Overview
The draconequui are one of the two primordial races, present in the universe since the universe itself was born. They embody the metaphysical, or "that which cannot itself be touched"; philosophical concepts such as life and death, time and fate, chaos, and the subjective abstractions of good and evil. Their population is scant and limited compared to most other races; currently only a few hundred exist, but this is made up for by their exceedingly long lifespans, fueled by their Spirits and the immense amount of inherent magic each draconequus possesses.
The draconequus homeworld of Vanaheim exists in a binary system, orbiting the same star as the alicorn homeworld of Elysium. Vanaheim and Elysium are the oldest surviving worlds in the current cosmos, and are two of nine other major realms. Of all the other realms, draconequui are only native to Vanaheim; travel between worlds is made possible by the race's access to interstellar wormholes. In ancient art, draconequui have often been mistakenly portrayed as dragons, and have inspired many mythologies and theories about the inner workings of the cosmos.
Appearance
The outward appearance of a draconequus depends entirely on what they represent. They may have the typical physique of a Western dragon, or they may have no limbs at all. Some may have many limbs or no wings, and some may manifest with two heads. As of yet there have never been any instances of identical twins, although opposing forces, as well as two draconequui who embody the same Spirit, will usually have similar appearances.
Spirits and magic
Each draconequus is a vessel for the literal Spirit of what they embody. The Spirits themselves appear simply as glowing, floating orbs; inside a vessel the Spirit is interwoven with the heart, pulsing with each beat and fueling the draconequus' immense stores of magic and long lifespans. The Spirit and a draconequus' magic are two entirely separate entities; if a draconequus is drained of their magic the Spirit will remain untouched, though without the aid of their magic the more "physically impossible" draconequui would have difficulty getting around. After a while the draconequus' magic will steadily be replaced by their Spirit, though the draconequus will never be as powerful as they were before their magic was drained.
A draconequus' outward appearance is the tangible manifestation of the Spirit they possess. It is possible for Spirits to split into pieces to create multiple embodiments for the same metaphysical concept; the most possible of any one Spirit is three, before the Spirit is overwhelmed by the draconequus' magic. If the Spirit is to split again after three, the oldest draconequus of that Spirit will suffer what is comparable to cardiac arrest and die (however this has only happened once or twice in recorded history). Since a draconequus' body is only a projection of their Spirits, upon death their bodies will simply dissolve into nothing. Separation of the Spirit from the host vessel results in the immediate death of the vessel; in the past there have been greedy draconequui who have attempted to steal the Spirits of other draconequui who share their Spirit, to add to their own power. A whole Spirit is exponentially more powerful and renders its host draconequus immortal. If the Spirit is fated to be split in preparation for a second vessel, the draconequus in possession of the whole Spirit will feel a sharp pain in their chest. When next the draconequus sleeps one portion of the Spirit will leave them, to be subsequently retrieved by the Reaper and delivered back to the embodiment of Life. There it will gestate and form a new vessel for itself.
Draconequui whose Spirits have split are mortal, but may live hundreds of thousands of years; over time their connection with their Spirits will simply become weaker. If there are two draconequui in possession of the same Spirit and one of them dies, either the Reaper will deliver the Spirit of the deceased vessel back to the embodiment of Life, and from there the Spirit will stay and gestate (if it is fated that it will be reborn within a decade), or the Spirit will go to the draconequus who holds its other half. Spirits not fated to be reborn are drawn to the draconequus who holds its other half like a magnet and don't need to be delivered; the draconequus will awake the next day feeling refreshed, and will be rendered immortal.
All Spirits exist in pairs of opposing forces, and oftentimes end up drawn to each other like it was fate. Interactions between opposing Spirits can range from romantic to all-out war on each other; wars between two whole Spirits have decimated entire worlds. A draconequus' magic is most effective on its opposing force, and largely ineffective on another draconequus who shares the same Spirit; two Chaos Spirits at war would result in a stalemate, and would be similar to trying to put out a fire with gasoline.
The Spirits of Chaos and Harmony are anomalies. Chaos manifests as a draconequus, while Harmony manifests as an alicorn and must be born to an alicorn parent. Harmony's vessel is capable of containing the physical forces which draconequui's bodies are unable to, to maintain harmony on worlds, while Chaos is capable of bending the laws of space, time, and the universe itself in opposition of everything Harmony represents.
Draconequui are capable of containing only the Spirit they manifested from. The only exceptions to this rule are Life and Death, who are capable of carrying multiple Spirits at once.
Abilities
To simplify: Alicorns control and cause to happen, while draconequui manage forces already present. The state of a draconequus' being makes them incapable of containing the physical forces the alicorns embody. A draconequus may be able to move the Sun over Gaia but it will behave differently depending on the draconequus' inherent magic; Death would receive no response from the Sun, but the Spirit of Chaos would cause the Sun to behave erratically.
Draconequui's mere presence could influence other beings and/or the immediate area, depending on what they represent. Chaos is capable of remaking entire worlds into whatever they wish them to be; Death would generate feelings of unease, and Time might inspire a sense of urgency when there had not been one previously. Draconequui draw power from being exposed to that which they represent; a Chaos in a world of Harmony still possesses extraordinary magical ability, but in a world overtaken by chaos the same draconequus would grow exponentially more powerful.
Aside from their god-like magical powers, the race has easy access to interstellar gateways, which are located on their homeworld of Vanaheim and which they use to get around the cosmos. Generally these gateways are kept under lock and key so as to prevent meandering Spirits who would mean harm to other worlds from using them; Spirits wishing to use the gateways must first state their intentions in Vita's court, before Life and Death themselves, before being granted permission. Chaos Spirits alone possess the ability to open portals to other worlds and dimensions out of thin air, and because of this the more malicious and over-eager draconequui often try to bribe the current Chaos Spirits into doing them a favor.
Reproduction
Simply put, draconequui do not reproduce amongst themselves. All new draconequui are born from the embodiment of Life, Vita , and live with her through their infant and toddler years. Pups are born live and are typically able to open their eyes within hours of birth, and learn to walk in their first few weeks or months, though pups with many or disproportionate limbs often take longer to learn. Pups may be born individually or in small litters, and can come in a wide array of shapes and sizes.
Draconequui age much more slowly than most other species; pups are considered infants until the age of five years, their toddler years being between the ages of five and ten. Through the first ten years of their lives pups will learn to talk and control any magical outbursts. Pups do not nurse, nor do they need to eat or drink until they leave to live with their predecessors; they receive all the nourishment they need from being in close proximity to Vita and absorbing her magic. Vita herself doesn't need to eat but she often will around the pups when they're within a year of leaving; the pups will begin to imitate her and start feeding themselves, and Vita will begin to wean them off of her magic.
When draconequui die, their soul ascends to the astral plane and their bodies dissolve into nothing, but their Spirit lingers in the physical world, waiting to be reborn. The Reaper, Mortimer , will come to retrieve Spirits of deceased draconequui and take them back to Vanaheim; once there he will pass the Spirit back to Vita (they both consider it an extremely private and intimate process unworthy of prying eyes). Spirits on worlds consumed by Oblivion will escape Oblivion himself to get back to Vita; the Spirit will return to the last place their host vessel knew, and will wait there until Mortimer retrieves them. Reincarnated Spirits will have no memory of their previous incarnations, but may often experience deja vu in places they've never been or situations they themselves have never been in.
Draconequui frequently pair off with members of other species. If the pair conceive a child, the child will acquire traits from both parents but will most commonly be a member of the other species. The sole exception to this rule are the Chaos Spirits, whose children may be what is referred to as a "false draconequus", a member of the other species, or a mix of the two. "Half-bloods", as they are most often called, do not possess a Spirit or even a fraction of one; they may or may not possess magical abilities (however if they do possess any measure of magic it will be far weaker than anything their draconequus parent is capable of), and typically live a significantly shorter length of time than their draconequus parent (about the typical lifespan of a member of the other species parent). Draconequus and alicorn pairs are by far the most common.
Hierarchy
The hierarchy between draconequui who share a Spirit is best described as a student-teacher relationship. Predecessors are those who are knowledgeable in the practices of that which they represent, and are charged with passing on this knowledge to successors when their successors come of age. Much of the time predecessors are retired from their practices, but some either work alongside their successors or are unwilling to relinquish their thrones, while the more power-hungry predecessors may try to kill their successors. A draconequus practicing their magic on other worlds is referred to as the "Acting Spirit" (i.e., Discord is the current Acting Chaos).
Predecessors have refused to tutor their successors before. In these instances the pup will stay with Vita for as long as it takes to find a suitable substitute mentor, which could very well be until the pup is able to go live on their own. Vita will first look to the predecessor's opposing Spirit, and if they are determined to be a suitable mentor will entrust the pup to them.
Successors by and large learn on their own, and are guided by their Spirits. Their predecessors/mentors offer guidance, but ultimately a successor's practices will be indistinguishable from those of their predecessors.
Not every draconequus will have a successor in their lifetime. Some draconequui will be long dead before their Spirit manifests again. Some draconequui simply grow weary of existing, or at worst are driven mad by the long years; in these instances Mortimer steps in and provides them merciful relief.
Royalty
Vanaheim is overseen by the four draconequui of Life, Death, Time and Fate. Life and Death reside in a sprawling gothic cathedral in Vanaheim's largest metropolis. The cathedral features two towers on the south side; Vita lives in the east tower with her pups, and Mortimer resides in the west tower. The towers are off-limits to visitors to the cathedral except by invitation. The main hall of the cathedral is open to visitors and petitioners; Vita holds open court every day from 10am to 2pm to hear propositions and grievances from the inhabitants of Vanaheim, but otherwise spends most of her time in her tower with her pups. Mortimer spends the majority of his time ferrying souls on the astral plane and seldom leaves his tower, but on the rare occasion may attend court with Vita.
To the west, in the shadow of Mortimer's tower, lies the Hall of Those Prior. A mausoleum dedicated to deceased draconequui, here is a solemn place, with corridors devoted to each class of Spirit. Floor-to-ceiling artistic depictions of the deceased decorate the walls of the corridors, with a depiction of the Spirit's practices opposite them; these manifest in a reserved space in the corridor only after the Spirit has passed. Friends and families of the deceased commonly hold vigils and memorials before their loved one's portrait, while predecessors may bring their successors to the Hall to teach them about their predecessors' practices.
The Hall is a source of wariness and unease for some. The plans drawn up by the Oracle called for only a limited number of spaces in each corridor; the destined number of draconequui that will manifest for each Spirit. Mortimer sometimes visits the Hall, when not ferrying souls or at Vita's side, and is often assailed with questions about death and the afterlife from other visitors, which frequently include inquiries about how their loved ones are faring in the afterlife and if visitations are allowed (or wise). Curiously, there seem to be no reserved spaces for the Spirits of Life, Death, Time, or Fate in the Hall; instead, at the entrance is an enormous stone relief of Life and Death, entwined and encircling a brilliant white, pearlescent gem.
Chrono lives in a massive clocktower on the north side of the city, and leaves his tower even more rarely than Mortimer does. Here he manages the sands upon which is recorded every moment of the cosmos and which manifests inside the uppermost reaches of his tower. The sand falls down through the clocktower, powering the mechanisms which drive the tower's clock. From the clocktower the sand falls down into the deep, underground chamber of the Oracle, melting to form the enormous, glass ball on which she sits and from which the fates of all things are written. Visitors to the Oracle's chamber must be invited, and are led down to meet her by Chrono.
In addition to his clocktower, Chrono oversees a massive library, which shares the same plaza upon which the clocktower sits. Here, historical texts and artifacts of worlds past and present are stored, and timelines of current and former worlds are recorded. A sprawling underground canyon acts as a vault for occult texts and artifacts. The library is tended by two owls; Di, a barn owl who gives tours of the library and helps visitors find what they're looking for, and Nox, a temperamental Eagle owl whose eternal complaint is visitors' inability to put books back on the shelves where they got them. Books cannot be checked out and taken off the library plaza; if anyone tries to remove a book or artifact it will simply disappear when they cross the plaza's boundary, and reappear back in its place on its shelf.
The library is open to visitors during the day. The vault is strictly off-limits, and is protected by certain enchantments, set by Chrono, that create an endless time loop for Spirits who trespass. Chrono may or may not immediately come to lift the enchantment and remove the problem draconequus from the premises; most often he waits some time before doing so.
Chrono's clocktower has become something of a sightseeing attraction. No visitors are allowed inside unless summoned, but this, and the stipulation of an invitation being required to see the Oracle, hasn't really stopped the more brash draconequui from intruding. Uninvited guests inside the clocktower are simply removed; uninvited guests to the Oracle are never heard from again.
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Rippin' pictures from other submissions because I just want to get this out there already
Overhaul of my original draconequus headcanon. I have lost many nights of sleep and endured multiple migraines trying to make sense of all this uuuuugh
Need-to-know information for future submissions
inb4 "my daddy is Death" and Chrono shouts at the youth to get off his lawn
Discord, draconequus race, My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic © Hasbro/fyre-flye
Vita and Mortimer from here Discord from here
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i fell in love with this headcanon! it is amazing to read!
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Hello! You have an exceptionally interesting headcanon about Draconequui and the creation of the tree of harmony! I am a fan! I wanted to ask, is it okay if I use ideas of those headcanons for a fanfic?
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late reply derp
Yesh 
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*Soulless masquarade destroyed this comment*
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such interesting and weird shit
I always love long ass backstories on a species and shit (hell that's what I'm working on now XD)
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I finally read all the bits of myth you're cooking up and I must say this one here is the part I have the big issues with. It fundamentally takes away a lot of what makes Discord and (to a lesser extent) the alicorns special. That Discord isn't the sole manifestation of chaos or that there could even be several others like him with the same exact powers and also be representations of chaos is not something I think does his character justice. I also don't like the whole sci-fi aspect with how both Draconequus and Alicorns come from solar systems and planets like they're just a bunch of aliens, or worse, God(s) that actually live in a physical location in space instead of another dimension or the afterlife or something of that nature. What, so in that universe I could just point of to a specific star in space and say "Yup, the gods live riiiiiight there. If we ever invent really great space ships we can go visit them some day"? That's...that's dumb.
And what if instead they're just super powerful aliens? Do they just do whatever they want and can destroy planets if they decide to throw a tantrum and there's literally HUNDREDS of these things running loose? That runs into the same irritating kind of problems that Superman and Dragon Ball Z have had to deal with for decades.
Man, the poor earth ponies and non-magic using intelligent species are just BUGS in this whole universe then, aren't they. They're less than insects now. Plus the whole thing doesn't FEEL like it belongs in the mlp universe, even a fanon interpretation of it. This isn't supposed to be Marvel's Thor. That was something Fallout Equestria had problems with too and was a major reason some people genuinely don't care for it. Believe it or not there ARE people who don't like Fallout Equestria.
Where's the justice? Where's the balancing force? Who the hell is opposing these god-like forces that no one else can or will stop? I cheer for Discord because he's DIFFERENT and because he's the ONLY OPPOSSING FORCE in a land where order has gotten so rampant that nature can't even FUNCTION anymore without ponies micromanaging everything with magic. I cheer for him because he's the UNDERDOG; because all the ponies still refuse to see the opposite side of things. This just makes those problems worse and ups the scale of those problems from planetary ones to cosmic level ones!
So yeah, this is the portion of you mythos I don't like. I'll stop here since there's a solid chance that you'll probably just block me for criticizing your work instead of offering it endless praise or making a witty joke. That, or you might not even read this comment. Damn it, I'm just trying to help. I'm being completely honest here because I don't want this mythos to end up as just another forgettable and flawed fanfiction/comic. If you want me to elaborate or just want to talk about things more you know where to find me.
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(had a long reply typed up and damn deviantart lost it asdfghjklhfug LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN)
I didn't like the idea of them being from different dimensions because it opens it up to "why come to this dimension and not another one?", "where did they come from?", "what are things like in their dimension?". The idea was that these "nine realms" are light-years apart to where it seems like other dimensions, because the universe is an inconceivably big place and I refuse to believe there's an "end" to it so this could theoretically be the case, and it wouldn't be conceivable to travel between them without aid of magic portals (like the one to Equestria-Girls earth).
Other than that bit of sci-fi this wasn't really supposed to make any logical or scientific sense beyond "it's magic, brah". It wasn't really supposed to be like the G-rated kid's show and was more to just answer some questions I had about the show and some of the things we've seen that haven't been explained. And then it turned into a pantheon.
About balancing forces; all of these characters exist in pairs as foils to each other. "Good" and "bad". And the "predecessors and successors"/multiple Spirits thing is there because what they represent is up for different interpretations. A pair could turn out bad, then there's this other Spirit from their opposing force to balance them out. And if Discord is the only draconequus anywhere in the whole pony universe (if there is a universe outside of Equestria), where's that balancing force? The Elements, sure, but we've already seen that the wielders can be corrupted to where they can't use them or they could just be kept out of reach. "Find new wielders", how long would that take? Could Discord just rip a hole in space-time and jump to another world and wreak havoc unchecked by the Elements?
Is Equestria-Girls earth in the same universe or a different dimension? There's "harmony" in that world, too, so what does their "chaos" look like? The same as Discord's or...?
Speaking on how I view Equestria itself; it is too "ordered". In contrast to our earth's "harmony in chaos", where things just happen without interference but nature still functions. Equestria is a utopia where "nature" isn't allowed to exist, apparently. Everything is micromanaged and ponies fear places like the Everfree for being too wild and not "ordered". So...there's the Everfree and then there's Discord's chaos, so which one would be the "real" antithesis of Equestria's established order? Or are they both "chaos" but just defined differently?
In this headcanon the draconequui still have their society on their homeworld and their code of conduct, and there are still those things you just don't do, so they're not just out there doing whatever. They also aren't "all-powerful" in the same sense as Discord (able to remake whole worlds, that is); they're dominated by and can influence/inspire/create only the thing they represent. The thing they represent still exists separately (or the idea does) and can still be interpreted differently. You can disagree with Discord over what "chaos" is, so really they aren't "Gods" as much as patrons of something. There are multiple patrons of Chaos because there are multiple interpretations; there is one patron of Life, Death, Time and Fate because those things are universally accepted as having one definition.
......I might've started rambling halfway through sorry my mind was goin' places 
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Well I would still say that entirely different dimensions (not universes) are better for more magical settings and we even sort of see one (if you interpret it that way and not as some pocket dimension) in the case of "Make New Friends but Keep Discord" where Discord lives. I would treat them as manifestations of whatever concept they represent. Discord's dimension is giant middle finger to logic where a bowling ball pops like a balloon and random explosions happen in reverse to form unexploded/inert bombs. While a Dracon- of war would maybe be closer to Valhalla but with animated suits of armor and mechanical war engines constantly fighting, instead of deceased warriors, with the surroundings being nothings but castles, barricades, trenches, sniping positions ect where simple death never actually stops the fighting and they all just resurrect over and over. War's dimensions would probably go through regular apocalypses as it starts at caveman levels and just escalates continually until they get to nuke or higher levels of war. Think of it like the deadric dimensions from the Elder Scrolls series in that they CAN'T be somewhere far off in the regular universe because they don't operate under it's laws of physics or even life an death in some cases.
The reason they all come to THIS dimension is because of the inherent un-livability of all of these concept dimensions. No society or living species from our reality would be able to live in these dimensions with the exception of "Life". Why would there be anything edible in most dimensions when they have nothing to do with the concept of food/water/life ect. Even a "Society" Dracon- would fill the role with ghostly "servetors" of sorts. You know, lifeless apparitions that mimic the necessary duties that require other people besides the ruling Dracon- of that concept: Servators that stay in a field all day plowing the same patch of dirt or a Market place that has Servators that never leave their stalls and customer Servators that keep exchanging the same objects over and over with infinite barter and/or money. Living beings would deviate or get tired and change from the one concept that the particular dracon- represents. Servitors don't. But a lot of concepts don't even NEED others involved. Another big reason they come to OUR dimension is because they are attracted to worlds that are juuuust close enough to their dimension but with scant "imperfections" they they have an almost obsessive compulsive need to "fix". That, or they go to worlds so inherently opposite to their nature for similar reasons. The big four that probably wouldn't be interested in our dimension, the ones you already pointed out as rarely leaving their towers, are Life, Death, Time, and Fate.
This would help keep the sci-fi at a distance while still feeling more mlp-ish, without the pantheon and more like a loose set of Avatars(Like Luna and Celestia?) that may not even be interested in our universe if they're more in love with their "perfect" dimensions. It allows you to ignore and introduce specific Dracon- as needed in any given situation, while still being believable. Perhaps one that normally never shows up is instead actively sought out by a powerful mortal magic user. This would be MY solution anyway.
Plus, it just seems out of place that ALL these concepts given life would came from the same place, even if it is after being spawned from "Life". I would think they would have just "always been" or perhaps popped into existence along with their dimensions (maybe composed of pure thought and magic?) when the ideas and concepts they represent became wide spread among "mortals". If that were the case I'd say humans like us(if you allowed us to exist in this universe) would have "birthed" the Dracon- of Creativity or Ingenuity (we work miracles with what we are given in some cases and don't even get me started with all the methods we come up with to do or make the same thing) for example. Actually that'd be pretty cool.
So there is in fact a balancing "Order" Dracon- of some kind? That's good, but for a personification of order I would think they aren't even in the shape or form of a Dracon-, even a symmetrical one. If anything I'd think they'd be some stiff crystalline creature that probably wouldn't even be able to move as fluidly as the Dracon- body allows. A Dracon- seems more inclined towards chaotic and lively things, things with fluid motion. This also brings up the question I have of where bipedal (and less magical/helpless) creatures like D-Dogs or Humans stand in your budding universe. Why should only the Dracon-s and Alicorns be the preferred body styles? I think it should be VASTLY different with each concept OR maybe a similar dracon- body type for a set of concepts. What about insect-like forms or ones that have an squid-like body or the old bipedal form as well? This would help show that Discord IS special in some regard.
Is there an actual "Justice" Spirit btw? Did you want any of the Dracon- or spirits to be patrons or invested in particular species out fascination or some other reason? Is that why Discord hangs around the ponies specifically? Or is it that he's interested in the whole of Equestria because of how ordered it is?
As for the Equestria Girls version of earth... GOD I hate those dumb things. It's so poorly thought out with Spike being a f*$#ing dog while the Diamond DOGS are humans. WTH?! Then there's the CMC apparently being older in the universe for no reason and most if not all of the NATION of Equestria is represented by a damn HIGH SCHOOL. I could go on, but there was clearly little love or thought put into THAT Monster High competitive rip-off. So I would say ignore it or, I guess, treat I like it's not really OUR earth. It doesn't even seem to HAVE a Discord equivalent. Whatever.
It's good to see someone else who shares so many of the same ideas and beliefs on the state of Equestria. You GET it!
With the Dracon- Society, it seems to me that it would be better if they were all individual agents of [insert concept here] working separately in the universe. Sure, they would all know each other and ones that represent opposing concepts probably are better acquainted with each other than with the others, but they would largely stay out of each other's path and do their own things. Like you said, it's a BIG universe, and they likely don't keep tabs on each other except for knowing where each of their individual dimensions reside. Perhaps they also have 1 designated meeting place in case something threatens all of Existance, like the dimension of a dracon- of "Neutrality". And besides I can't imagine they have ANYTHING in common enough to get together and agree on any set of rules besides "DON'T BREAK REALITY YOU IDIOTS OR WE ALL DIE!". After all, if there is no universe there is no life, no death, no time, no chaos, no order, no creativity, no ideas, no CONCEPTS. And that's one thing none of them want. They EXIST because of those concepts. In a way, they need it and mortals(depending on what they're an avatar for) to exist and they DO gain power from it.
On a side note, it might be cool if, for a Freedom or Anarchy spirit, that they actually gain power when there's LESS of what they represent around them in order to introduce what they represent. Anarchy and Freedom would be at his strongest when he stood alone as the only free being in a slavery filled dystopia. Sort of an exception to the rule.
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The idea behind the Spirits was that the Spirits themselves have always been present. They create manifestations of themselves because on their own they really don't have an individual will; they just exist. Their mere existence in the universe is enough for the idea of war, life, death, etc. to be present and universally recognized; them creating patrons of themselves and then these patrons actually going to the other worlds kinda forces things to happen in such a way that whatever the draconequus embodies happens on that world. Of course they have their magic and thus are capable of rushing things along but in this headcanon the patrons don't really have any direct involvement except for their being present. If, say, the Spirit of Misfortune/War (Cataclysm) got into power on a world then the world would become like the pocket dimension you describe. Whether or not it stayed that way until the world destroyed itself through war would depend on whether or not Cataclysm's opposing force was apathetic to "lesser beings'" suffering; the idea of "war is hell, we should stop" would still be present on the world because the Spirit of Fortune/Prosperity still exists, but until the patron physically went to this world overtaken by war then the dominating ideology would be of warmongers. Them both being on the same world at the same time would be the "neutrality" you mentioned; right now there isn't a Spirit of Neutrality because neutrality is what happens when two opposing Spirits dominate the same space (and I...can't really think of an opposing force for it). The draconequus homeworld technically exists in neutrality because all these opposing Spirits live in the same place and cancel out any influence any one of them would have on their own (except in close proximity to them; Death carries an aura of uneasiness and general misery but once you left the area he was in the feeling would go away). Generally the ones who stay on Vanaheim are well-adjusted or "in training" and the ones who wouldn't want to follow rules are the ones who have left, because Death takes no shit from anyone who would threaten the race's existence.
I wanted to keep the "pocket dimension" idea unique to Discord/Chaos because it makes no logical sense, and just breaks all the laws of space and time that are currently understood/capable of being understood. If they all have their own little pocket dimensions then the idea of Discord having one wouldn't be as...illogical? And now that you made me think about it some more I might go and recon this whole idea about the portals because...that makes no logical sense either. Maybe only the Chaos Spirits can do that and the other draconequui have to ask them to open a portal somewhere?
Maybe just the mere thought is enough to summon them to a world. People thinking "we need some good old fashioned chaos up in here" and POOF there's Discord, or like Equestria existing in such perfect order and it's just irresistibly alluring to the Spirit of Chaos. But I like this idea of these Pagan-ish rituals to summon the Spirit of Death...
I did say up there that opposing concepts and Spirits who embody the same thing have similar body types. There's a Spirit of Horror in the works right now that looks like a giant centipede and his opposing force is a ladybug (both draconequui). There's a Spirit of Order/Harmony that manifests as an alicorn because I always thought this whole "bodies made up of all sorts of things" just didn't work for Harmony. Even if she was completely symmetrical.
I haven't stuck our Earth in this universe because it's mostly completely devoid of earthly logic and relies mostly on "it's magic, brah". The Equestra-Girls Earth is present and is renamed Kepler, and has a very very small amount of inherent magic compared to all the other worlds. Wizards and such exist there, but have to go through extensive training to even be able to access Kepler's magic. I haven't thought much about the non-magic users of Kepler yet...maybe they all have the potential to use magic but through the force of Hope instead of anything conscious; when they're young they have high hopes and are more magically disposed, but then things start happening and their hope diminishes until they can't access Kepler's magic anymore (the humans, at least). The animals access Kepler's magic through their apparent "sixth sense", like animals who can sense when a storm is coming or the pets who outright don't like someone because this someone has bad intentions for their owner.
There was a Justice alicorn in the first draft of the timeline but I've written them out right now because I really don't know what they'd manifest as. Everyone knows what Justice is, like Life and Death, and like Life and Death the different interpretations are about how justice works. So...under that logic it would be a draconequus, I guess.
Not really patrons of any particular species, but maybe having mannerisms resembling the behavior of one of the animals making up their bodies idk
I always thought Discord hung out in Equestria because the place was just so ordered and he wanted to fuck everything up. Pre-reformation he seemed like the kind who would hear about this world existing in perpetual order and be like "hmm! This place is too boring let's go liven things up a little".
Well...Anarchy himself would influence feelings of malcontent in the world he visited, and then gain more power through the growing discontent of the population. Anarchy is Chaos, so his opposite would be Order.
There's a Freedom and "Chains" pair that I haven't thought much about yet, but too much freedom would result in chaos and too much "Chains" would result in order. Kind of an exception because everyone thinks of freedom as good when too much of it could be bad, and we think of strict rules as bad when too much of those could result in a "perfect" society, like in all these dystopian novels. Maybe they're precursors to Order and Chaos...?
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Wait, so do the existence of these concepts/spirits create them in the normal universe or does their existence in the universe create the concepts/spirits? In this headcannon did mortal life still take forever to evolve or was it some magical hocus pocus?
Okay, I understand how them just being somewhere rushes their concept along, but what do you mean they don't get directly involved? War(Cataclysm) would HAVE to get directly involved if he wanted to get into power and make the changes necessary to turn a world into his version of that pocket dimension I mentioned. He couldn't just sit around and do nothing, unless he just wanted to watch a regular war(s) unfold
without him keeping soldiers from dying too long or creating otherwise impossible war machines to keep the fight constantly going (like this maybe?) media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736… Besides, we both know an avatar of war would NEED to be involved in the fighting in same way. If he didn't go out and fight in the trenches himself he'd at least want to be involved in the tactical planning and management side of war. Sitting on his backside and doing nothing the whole time is not what War is about. Most concepts aren't. This is why I'm thinking they would actually pick sides they agreed with or at least get directly involved in some manner like Discord seems to. Okay, maybe some like Fate wouldn't bother getting involved, but most would have to, if they wanted to make the world they visit as close as possible to how they believe things SHOULD be. OR they could just stay in their perfect pocket dimensions.
About the neutrality from two opposing spirits canceling each other out. Wouldn't it just be a stalemate instead of a neutral zone? One side would be war torn and ruined while the other would be prospering and peaceful(and weaker) or one side orderly and the other chaotic. That's not really neutrality. That's drawing lines in the sand on the same beach and building opposite types of sand castles on each side. It's night and day at the same time, but it's not a compromising and neutral twilight. lol Twilight. Actually, I think your somewhat falling into a trap of sorts by making it so there HAS to be an opposing force for every dracon-. The universe doesn't only deal in black in white. There is plenty of grey to be found, even in mlp. There are Sith(dark) and Jedi(light) in Star Wars constantly fighting yes, but you know what else there is that never dies and represents something distinctly unlike the others? Mandalorians. What about time? Does THAT really have an opposite? I guess there could be not-time, but that wouldn't really make any sense. See, it's not always black and white. Neutrality has its place and should be allowed to exist on it's own. And why stop there? There can be plenty of other concepts that work on their own or in trios or quartets or whatever! That's what so great about it! The options are free to be interpreted and changed ad infinitum, like all the different concepts that can be thought up!
Their homeworld technically being the neutral point and having so many conflicting ideals/dracon-s all in one place? See above please. Also, why would they want to settle for less than perfect(and honestly who the heck wants to live under the personification of DEATH?) if they are no longer in training when they could go to ,or manifest spontaneously as I've suggested, in their own perfect pocket dimensions. Ehhhh, pocket dimensions dude. They'd be pretty helpful here.
Oh, there are SO MANY possibilities with the portals and pocket dimensions though! I don't see why you should throw away that they all can use portals in order to keep discord's teleporting ability contained to just him. They don't have to be ripping a tear through space and time. That could just be Chaos's shtick. Maybe most just dematerialize their molecules from their current spot and rematerialize them in another place in space. They don't die in the process because 1. their essence is an immaterial idea/spirit and 2. the power of their immense magic keeps their memories and personality intact as a sort of neural "imprint" on the spirit that is sustaining them currently. You said yourself that the main reason they die is based on them passing on their spirit to a successor or it splitting apart.
The pocket dimensions can make sense we just have to adjust the idea a little. Maybe they aren't separate PHYSICAL dimensions that you or I could physically enter but instead are SPYCHIC/MENTAL pocket dimensions. Mortals can only enter there as astral/spiritual projections, leaving their bodies temporarily helpless back home. Meanwhile the Dracon-s, that are really just a physical manifestation of a "spirit" as you've called them, don't NEED their bodies to exist in the real world so long as they are the current incarnation of that spirit. That spirit keeps a magically generated imprint of the dracon-'s entire being for as long as that incarnation doesn't split off too much, get consumed by another dracon-, or otherwise "dies" in the material universe. You can look at the pocket dimensions even more as an "ideal world made real" tailored to each individual dracon's taste, but it's still their original "home" or at least it is the original home of the bodiless spirit/concept. They don't techinically "exist" in the same way you or I would normally think of a location, because they ARN'T physical places. Perhaps those dimensions are the collected unconscious concept, floating in the otherwise formless realm of thought and belief.
That's a great idea with the mere THOUGHT of longing for [insert concept here] can cause that spirit to be lured there! Maybe while in their mental/conceptual/origin dimension they can "manually" sense for places that are calling to them, or chose the places that feel the most "barren" to them, in other words the places that are out of balance/overflowing with the opposing concept they represent. Maybe that's how Discord picked Equestria.
You could incorporate the pagan rituals too! Doing that has a similar effect as when people are asking/hoping for a specific spirit to arrive, but with the ritual it's much LOUDER and more likely to get the Dracon-'s attention... That doesn't mean the spirit will actually ANSWER the call though. It just makes it much harder to miss by accident, since it's such a big universe and millions of people could be longing for a specific spirit at any given time. Without the rituals it just comes off as more of a white noise of sorts to the spirit that can be easily ignored and forgotten if the dracon- is busy or doesn't care to get involved with the material dimension at that time.
Spontaneous but related idea just now. You're currently unfinished universe is akin to the Norse "tree" shape yes? Well I think what I'm suggesting is shaped like a single large ball with many smaller spheres directly attached to it, a lot like this -> img.ehowcdn.com/630x420/cme/ph…
What I'm saying though is that they should all have VASTLY different body types and form based on what they represent. That centipede for Horror thing is good though, KEEP THAT. I would even go on to suggest that the term "Draconequus" is actually more of a Title than a name for a species due to the drastic biological differences. Sith is not the name (sorry/notsorry for the star wars comparison again) of anybody who wielded a red lightsaber, nor is it for anyone using the dark side of the force. It's not even the name of a species (well techinically it was at one point in the distant past, but lets not overcomplicate this)! It's the title for those who have been taught, believe in, and have come to embody a specific set of beliefs. Yes, the Draconequus all originated in the same way, but their physical forms are not what make them what they are. It's the concepts they embody that truly make them Draconequus!
So our world doesn't have a place in this universe? Disappointing, but I can see where your coming from on that. I like the potential with dropping our world into an Equestria related universe so much though that if it were completely up to me, I'd drop it in there anyway. I'd just have it be that our specific type of humanoid race DOES NOT have any magic within our bodies. We have some sort of inherent spiritual block that makes it so direct magic like telekinesis or language translation spells don't even work FOR or ON us. Things like magically created fire and ice would still hurt though. Our world would be so inherently untouched by magic we end up as a sort of "blind spot" when trying to be detected my magic users like Discord or Celestia. Our world would be like trying to look directly at a black hole when using magic. Aaaand like I said, I'm going to just try reeeeally hard to ignore the poorly conceived EQG world. Your version ALREADY makes more sense that the cannon world. On the other hand, I guess you could sort of combine our world with theirs? I've seen that done well before, but not often.
Your right, the different interpretations about justice are about how it should work, not about what it IS. Sounds more dracon- to me. I WOULD suggest that whatever Justice ends up being that you make it be blind or have no eyes. Justice is blind after all.
Freedom and Chains could work as "precursers" to Chaos and Order. Not sure. Jeez, I hope I'm not wasting your time with all these ideas. I'm just trying to help and maybe contribute something meaningful to your work. I like writing and I guess I'm also seeing if someone with actual artistic talent thinks I'm any good at this. Plus you're really cool and you seem to GET what I'm talking about with MLP; and we both clearly love Discord. Sorry for the spelling and grammar errors by the way. This has taken somewhere around two and a half hours to write if you include me trying (and failing lol) to get my thoughts in order. Writing things out the proper way doesn't always convey what you're trying to say when just TALKING with someone. It's the same issue with texting actually.
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The original draft of the whole cosmos was based on the Yggdrasil-tree model, like the one that was in the beginning of the Thor Marvel movies, with each world being at the end of a branch. Then the cosmos model was like a layered cake, with each layer being a "world zone", and then it was based on a neuron cell with Vanaheim and Elysium being in the "bulb". Creo and Oblivion flew between the branches/layers/stems with the singular goals of protecting or destroying worlds. Right now they're all just there in the cosmos like I imagine our outer space to be, with planets just hanging in empty space, but I've been leaning more toward the tree model with Vanaheim and Elysium being at the roots (Well of Urd). Our Earth was also present but I dropped it from the lineup; in the original lineup Earth and Kepler were cosmic neighbors and were in "low magic zones". Our Earth had exactly zero inherent magic and was dominated by natural forces, and it and Kepler were largely left to themselves to develop (natural millions-and-billions-of-years evolution on these two). The other worlds had life just manifest/pop up, like Creationism, or move in from Vanaheim and Elysium, or be given form and life by Vita, and then those lifeforms birthed the newer lifeforms and now we're all here. In this universe there have been other worlds that have evolved to some level of or past civilization on our earth, but have either destroyed their planets or been destroyed by Oblivion. Some of the current nine realms are really pretty young on this universe's cosmic scale.
The pocket dimensions idea also was present in the first draft but I dropped it to keep it unique/for convenience, but dangit I might stick it back in there now >:I In the first iteration the pocket dimensions were their own little paradises/"training centers", and they could be created anywhere and worked like the Bermuda Triangle. Like you could just be going along and then you're inexplicably on the other side of this vast expanse. Invisible without some magically amplified visual apparatus and can't be accessed unless you're on official business or are otherwise allowed in by the draconequus who created it. Vanaheim has a marketplace with goods from all over the cosmos and from extinct civilizations, and the residents of the pocket dimensions would go there on shopping trips because for all his inherent magic the Spirit of War couldn't really poof an apple orchard into existence. His magic doesn't work for that. Chaos could, because Chaos makes no damn sense, but War is more bound by the laws of physics and more for destroying things that already exist than creating anything edible out of thin air. There are draconequui who prefer to stay on Vanaheim either short-term (business trips to see one of the big four or maybe there are issues with the wife at home) or long-term, when they have a successor to look after (they would probably take the successor to the pocket dimension and kinda "turn it over" to them, or the successor would go and make their own idk). The original draft for the pocket dimensions weren't supposed to make even the slightest bit of sense as to how and where they existed; they were just there with no explanation and could move and shrink and maybe be put into a literal pocket if the draconequus who created them wanted to spend some time in the "real world".
The Spirits just being present would be enough to introduce their concepts to the universe, yesh. Maybe some of them manifested earlier than others because it took a while for some of these concepts to be recognized, and once they were they manifested (Chaos manifested earlier than Horror and Fantasy). The Big Four were born after Creo and Oblivion and alongside Order and Chaos, because there had to be a universe for those things to exist. Order had to be present on Elysium in order for the Elementals, Nature, Sky and Sea to manifest. In the original draft Time was the exception to the rule and didn't have an opposing force; now his opposing force is Fate, but they're only loose "opposites" and not polar opposites like Life and Death. Something like Neutrality might actually have Bias or something as an opposing force, now that I think more on it. Or have multiple "opposites" like you said. I think I just stuck with the idea of pairs for convenience's sake :V
Well, on the portals thing; that was for convenience sake, too. Right now Death gets around through shadows, Time can blow into places in this mini-sandstorm, but they both still use the portals for longer distances. But the problem with the dematerializing and rematerializing somewhere else was that their Spirits were integrated into their bodies, and dematerializing might inadvertently cause them to become separated from their Spirits and cause insta-death, so they would just prefer to get around with portals (at least, anything that isn't a Spirit of Chaos because the Chaoses break space and time on a regular basis, so they teleport most everywhere). Maybe teleportation is used for shorter distances and the portals are used for interworld travel idk
And again..."draconequus = horse head, draconic physique" was for simplicity's sake, too 
Buh I've been typin' this for two hours and now we're going somewhere ugh. Gonna brainstorm on all this
are you writing your own dang book or mythos or whatever because go do
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I'm not really sure how to respond to this last message because it's apparently concerning mostly early drafts and theoretical changes you haven't decided on yet. Well let me know what results your brainstorming and contemplation reach. I'd like to hear/discuss it more.
Also no I'm not writing a book/mythos, but I HAVE done so before with various stories concerning these things. Obabscrabbler did a radio play thing of my To Be Remembered story once. So I'd like to think I have some decent ideas.
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This is A-grade quality headcannon. Well worth recording and integration into many universes, my own no exception.
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I would love to see more of the pups, they're all so cool looking!
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A really big fan but this is over the top cool to the point it's badass keep it up
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inb4 "my daddy is Death" and Chrono shouts at the youth to get off his lawn. HAHAHAHO.
More amazing work!
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Holy shit this made my head spin so much I had to re-read it a couple more times. Thanks for making my brain work!
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some say that once someone figures out how the universe works it will immediately destroy itself and become something even more strange and incomprehensible.
some say this has already happened.
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The history/backstory is well worth the headaches you endured creating it
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Awesome work and gorgeous information about the race!
I hope that you have a great and blessed day!
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Seriously girl, how has Hasbro not hired you already?
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I really enjoyed reading your headcanon, thanks for sharing! Also yay more Mortimer!
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Yeah more Discord your style. I love it when you draw him.
Very interesting head cannon.
Wonder how long we will have to wait until he pops up in season 6
Keep being awesome
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Oooooh. Me like!
Apart from Chaos and Harmony being opposites. That's Bullshit. Chaos' opposite is ORDER, and Harmony IS NOT ORDER.
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It amazes me that someone could think of so much based on a show for little girls.
One that wouldn't even touch on any of these concepts, might I add.
"Draconequus and alicorn pairs are by far the most common."
Choo choo here comes the Dislestia train motherfuckers.
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WHERE BABIES COME FROM
IN MY GOOD RATED-G KID'S SHOW
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Oopsie.
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Dangit.
I like this idea of ponies budding like jellyfish
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Hey, this is your story you're writing.
Draconequui are still free game.
Do it.
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This is an amazing headcanon! I can't wait to read more about it ^v^
and the spirits remind me of the Gems a little bit >3>
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"The draconequus race embodies all things metaphysical"
Does this means there is a draconequus of technology?
"to be subsequently retrieved by the Reaper"
You mean, Mortimer?
Is Discord the king of Chaos?
The Oracle is the draconequus of fate?
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I think technology would be an alicorn. There's a draconequus of Knowledge I've yet to start sketching for, though :V
Mortimer is referred to sometimes as "the Reaper", yesh
Discord is the middle kid here; Hodgpodge (not up yet) is his predecessor and Anarchy is his successor. They wouldn't call him "king" but he would totally call himself that
The Oracle is Fate and Chrono's opposite
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Oh dear. I have used the wrong account. Oh, well!
How do you determine if something is an alicorn or draconequus?
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Alicorns embody physical things (like the Sun or a constellation) and emotions (love). I'mma write something on how I see them too eventually :V
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It appears Discord is unique even among his own kind, having largely uneven and misshapen parts compared to the others.
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