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true true, in evolution of the human body I don't believe that we evolved from primates, though I do believe we evolved in our minds.
We are, God made man in his own image then breathed life into him, not into any other animal.
But see there is. (sorry his name was Luke) Luke was a doctor and cared very much about detail. Many atheists read the entire bible, and find it the hardest to argue with Luke because it has acutal factual historic things going on at the time. He pinpoints everything so that you know what time period this is, what's happening in the world. True you can't prove religion, but how can science proove miracles? Miraculous happenings that science cannot explain? God performs small and large miracles in everybodies lives, wether you believe in him or not. Frankly, the other day, my sister was driving very fast during some horrible weather with a huge truck in front of her and she seemed very distracted and was moving around alto from the rain being spit into her windshield from the truck in front of us. I was nervous and silently prayed to God, asking him to make sure my sister is okay. Right after i did this, the truck got off on the exit that was coming up and my sister was fine afterwards. See? mircales are always happening every day, and science can't always explain them. Also, if you don't believe in creation or a creator, do you seriously think that it was a coinincidence that the Earth is at the perfect temperature, the perfect length from the sun, plants are growing, animals formed from 1 celled bacteria. Personally, I find that hard to believe. The universe is a miraculous thing, and i don't think it created itself alone. I just came back actually, from seeing the movie The Book of Eli. It was a christian movie, but that shouldn't prevent you from watching it. Actually, i didn't know it was godly until he said a table prayer. I just recomend that movie to show that all christians aren't frekas if that is the reason you don't believe. I don't know why you don't believe, maybe something bad happened to you, a loved one died or something. Maybe you just don't care. But whatever it is, God has a plan for everybody. He knows everything that has, is and will happening. And he loves everybody, he did send his one and only son to save the world. He loves everybody; me, you, your family, crooks, even the devil; more than any earthly love. And as a christian, my duty to God is to spread the Gospel, and always be kind to everybody that i meet. i know i haven't done that, and that i sin all the time. But I repeant for my sins and try to do right by God, and i just hope that you don't think that every religious person is obnoxious and annoying.
They're just trying to do what they believe is right.
And wether my talking to you makes in a difference in your life or not, which it probably won't, it's a nice feeling to religious people knowing that they pleased the person they're worshiping, like a little child.
So i just hope you know, that my argument(and my spelling for that matter as well sorry) are not what they should be. Frankly, i hate my sunday school class, we don't do anything productive. Our church is pretty boring. I don't know alot of the bible stories, and i don't know the order of the books. But right now, i'm closer to God than i evver have been bacause i talk to him daily, pray to him daily for things that i've been working towards. "Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. We live by faith, not by sight." 2 Corinthians 5: 6-7
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We didnt evolve from monkeys, monkeys and humans have the same ancestors, if you ignore the evidence for that then there isnt much we can discuss about.
Humans are animals to yo know.
Miricals are what people make them to be, for you a mirical can be something that ohers wouldnt even consider it so it cant be proven because its personal. It depends on a person and it alone from what it believes.
And science havent proven everything yet. its only been over 150 years with the evolution theory and yet it backs up more than thousand years of religion has.
And just because you prayed there that doesnt proove anything. If i pray to god eatch time something is about to happen its going to sooner or later. And besides our brain is capable of alot more than we even dream off. Because everything is energy and by that we can affect actions around us if we really want to.
Theres been million of times were im like please dont let that happen omg noo and it doesnt happen and im like YAAY , but that doesnt make me believe in god.
theres alot of theories out there that i find more intresting than the other but i dont belive in this christian god or that one creator created this, we humans are selfish to make up a god that looks like us and blame it that he created us in his image, why is god a He in the first place. Mostly because back when the bible were written men were superior.
What about the other religions? are they wrong? what makes the bible and this god the only right one.
what? XD do you really belive thats why i dont belive? omg
Well first of all i can tell you if you care to really know.
The bible may have things that we can link to things that may have happened but so can i do right now, i can tell you that in the future there will be a great disaster because it surly will happen.
They talk about angels alot in the bible and bright lights from the sky, this sounds very much like alien ships if you ask me so god can be an alien, atleast then he is something and not some invisible thing. but who knows
And then again when one religion say they are the true one, then its bvious that none of them is the true one because mosly they all say the same thing.
And christianity are many religions which constantine put together to create peace around the are were it fist started. because it were so many versions of it. And they also took alot from the old saturn worshippers.
I also like to have an open mind, i dont want to live by rules that wont do me any good anyway,i dont have the need to believe because i feel perfectly awesome without it. Many people are religious because having the rules and a god makes them feel better as you say yourself, reality is a harse bi***. And the other half grow up with it so they believe it because grew up with it and it makes them feel safe.
And if i were religious i would "drop" the religion just because someone dies because religion has nothing to do with that, not from what i think.
God to me is more of a warm safe feeling a person needs. Its better to believe that you mean something and are here for a reason and that someone is watching over you rather than the cold truth that there is no god or there is no religious reason.
I think we are here to evolve and figure out what we are and when we do it will become alot more clear. but i dont think it has something to do with a god, i think it has to do with nature. everything is made so it can live in harmony. the things that doesnt cause this harmony usually die out or evolve into something better.
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idk I wouldn't know why you wouldn't believe. XD sorry if I offended you...
Yes, God is a warm safe feeling, that's what he's supposed to be. And miraces are miracles, whether you want them to be or not. Would you not call a burning bush that has green leaves a miracle? Would you not call turning water into wine by just touching it a miracle? Would yo not call feeding 5,000 people with 5 loaves of bread and 3 fish a miracle? There are many religions within christianity, but they all talk about the same thing: loving our Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Don't you feel better when you do something nice for somebody else, or would you rather beat them and steal their belongings. The Ten Comandments is like our government; without it there is chaos, without rule there is diasaster. Rules were made to keep us safe, though some of them we may not like. Do you believe that evil is just something? Nobody knows who God is. He might be a she. NOBODY KNOWS. But with faith, the unthinkable can happen, and it has. Reality is harsh, but God can help us through it.
Do you seriously think that if there was not creator who cared about us, we would mean anything to this world? We are nothing in perspective of everything! Frankly, if I had been an atheist, I would just kill myself, because my life would have no meaning. We are a pixel in an enormous picture of life. We're here to please God and do right by him, so that we may go to paradise together with him.
I don't know about the other religions. Im sure if I believed them, I would think this religion is wrong. But what's different about christianity, from Hinduism, muslisms everything is is that, we are the only ones who has a God that, when we give to him, he gives back. Other religions when you study them, you have to sacrifice so much, and their God gives nothing in return but flames of hatrid. Our God doesn't he gave his son for us.
And if you want something to figure out try this: God is three in one, he IS The Holy Spirit, The Son, and The Father, but he is also seprate from each. He's been around before time, after time, during time, and he'll be around forever. He is and always will be.
Then what are we here for? What are you here for? Why don't we just blow everybody up? What do riches matter, or anything? Why don't we all just drown ourselves and ruin this world if it has no meaning?
What's the purpose?
Is that what atheists strive for? To find our purpose when they have the answer right in front of them?
BTW I like having this conversation with you, though I hope i'm not offending you or that you think less of me. It's just, I don't get to have conversations like this with my friends and family, when I talk to them about, they're just "Oh I love God and I'm gonna shoot whoever doesn't" crap like that, and don't really have a grasp on anything intelligent....
ALso, I agree with your dislike of shaymin (forgot to say that earlier). He's rude and annoying and throughout the movie I started laughing and saying he was a faggot when he went \"SSSSSSHHHHHHAAAAAAYYYYYYMMMMIIIIINNNNNN\" when he was sucking in the nasty air around him XD
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Forgive me for butting in here but just by what you say. I can tell that your really young and haven't looked beyond what you have been taught. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with your beliefs but I am saying youβre coming off as intimidated and immature. You devaluated your points by apologizing and being so reluctant.
You can say all you want that things are miracles but if you come off as an immature kid then you won't get any respect.
As a Christian and an advocate studier of the bible myself. Your beliefs are so flawed. The bible is a book of analogy to teach about love, and respect ect. You can't tell me you actually believe that there is a man floating in the sky that magically impregnated a woman and created Jesus. You need to be more open minded and practical. Try applying what you hear to REALITY. Instead of coming off as totally ignorant. I have the same beliefs as you but I have REALIZED that God as a male is a metaphor for the intense energyβs that create life back then the only energy that SHOULD DO THAT is male. The whole bible is a riddle and hyperbole.
We as Christians are supposed to read beyond the exact messages. However, due to our flawed anal country it is impossible due to the vast ignorance, lies, and stubbornness.
I'm not being nitpicky or mean. I am correcting you politely. I don't care what you believe but if youβre going to advocate for my religion. You should be more accurate and open minded.
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yes I am young and don't know much about. I'm just saying what I've been taught.
Though I can tell that both of you don't seem to like this conversation very much, so we'll just stop.
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No we love talking like this. But if you don't want to defend your beliefs then don't say them at all. If I didn't want to talk to you I wouldnβt give you the time of say. Iβm not upset, neither is snuffen. However, you maybe. And first off if this is just what you've been taught then why are you advocating for it so highly? Thatβs no fair to you because your mind is so much deeper than what you've been taught. We aren't trying to upset you we are simply stating how we see it. By backing down like this again you have revalidated everything you said. I know I am probably making you feel really uncomfortable and insulted and Iβm sorry. I was in your shoes once when I was younger. I'm just trying to help you when I say explore your mind, meditate, try and find a deeper logic in everything you see and do.
If you really love your religion DONT go head strong into a conversation with an atheist, then back down. Of course she wonβt agree with you. But we aren't judging your character based on your religious ideologies. We are just a little older and are trying to share our points with you. Hell if you sent either me or Snuffen a note on what we believe we would be glad to rant to you for hours XD no one is upset here.
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Im replying to you from your frases and down, so you dont get confused to what im replying on.
Miracles for you like i just said woutldnt have to be miracles for others. If you are into alchemy,
turning water into whine wouldnt be a miracle, it would be a normal skill. And theres
no proof for any of theese to even have happen. it can be a metaphor, or a description of something
awesome to make people understand that the consept is awesome.
Taking the bible litterly just shows how little understanding you have of the idea behind it.
wait what, just because you dont believe in your god doesnt mean you steal and hit and kill people
REMEMBER christianity burned people and murdered them because they DIDNT want to join in.
The crusades were far more worse than just some normal crimes that happens all over.
There isnt chaos without the ten Comandments. A rational person who have never hear of them grow up
just fine without them. And they doesnt turn out bad. rules on how people behave runs from family to
family and contry to contry. I dont really know were your learning other wise. And i really dont see
why you can believe that everything that isnt like you is bad, thats kinda selfish.
Good and evil were a consept that religion made up. and good and evil also depends on who sees it, Like
this example, eating animals isnt evil for thoose who eat meat, but it is for vegetarians who think its
evil, not all do but many do. There is no rule for what is good and evil, you cant say that something that
is so onesided and personal to be the meaning to us all.
Your not seeing anything from another view than the one you grew up with, you take what they have
taught and said to you as a fact, you really need to go out into the world and see how it works before
making statements like theese because your making your opinions around the senter of yourself to be
the true way of life.
We dont need a creator to have a meaning.If the world didnt have any religion anymore it wouldnt end.
It would go on like life does and continue on its journey to evolve.
Having a meaning can mean alot of things. If you plant a seed you had a meaning to make that plant and
help it grow, you dont need a creator to do that, because you are capable to affect the world around
you and make it better or worse.
Just because he gives back doesnt make it better. You havent studied the other religions as much as
you have your own, you cant possible know everything about them, maybe they have another way to get
back at what they give. And then again its super selfish to want something back in return if you give
something away. Just think about that. that isnt kindess thats being arrogant.
Yeah well if you dont belive in jesus or god hes going to trow you into the hell he himself created,
makes so much sence and isnt "gull of flames and hatrid" at all. If you ask me thats kinda worse than
not getting anything.
How do you know this is true? Just because you "belive it" doesnt make it true you know :3 Unicorns
vampires, werewolfs and fairies is just as true as god then.
Why do we need a reason to be here? why do we need an answere for everything, im sure things will
come with time, dont be in such a hurry, answeres take time, like they always have, and its easier to fill
it with something than wait for it, because we humans are impatient creatures.
We dont need to blow people up now your being stupid. We dont have to become all dramaqueens just
because we have no meaning of life, Atheists are doing just fine.
Just to get this straight for the hundred time, you dont need a theism to feel good, Atheists are just
like any other person, wanting to live doing what they have to or like to do just to live, have a family,
have a job whatever they want to. They are just as happy as any religious person, they are just as kind,
there is no diffrence rather than that they dont believe in a god. Thats it. We have the answer we
want infront of us, and for you that is god, for me that is being happy with who im with and what i do.
We make our own meanings of our own lifes, and thats all we need. All we need is love and happiness.
They grew up in the same position you are now. Their parents and their friends had this view on the
world.
And i dont really see the reason why your trying to change the subject, or atleast bring in something
else when its not what we are having a discussion about
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Look ,I'm sorry I started this conversation.
It's obvious that you are more experienced than I am, and I'll just make an even bigger fool out of myself if this continues. It seems i haven't made much of a difference in your opinion, and I'm sure I won't.
You're right about every, so I'll just stop.
I'll just stick to admiring you art and asking for critiques and i won't butt in to your personal beliefs.
And I was trying to and something fun to the conversation, so that everything didn't have to be so tense. >.>
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Im very open minded about religon, im sure alot of things written down has a truth in some way or another, but it wouldnt change how i see things, i dont follow others believes, i make my own. And even as a christian you can do that. :3
Yeah but when your doing a intense discussion, adding things like that might make others go whaaaaat x3 so its better to finish what one starts first
: D but its ok, i dont judge religious people at all, so im hoping for the same respect back.
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true true. >.>
and I course! I have respect for everyone, ESPICALLY thoughs I have such a high honor for and those I'm inspired by!
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Seriously i'm sorry XD
even since I was a child (though 13 is still a child...) i've always wanted to voice my opinion, not really knowing or understanding what it was. I still do that now (obviously) and I'm sorry for dragging you into that.
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yes, I'm very glad to have had this discussion.
I'm one to hate having to be only sypathetic to people and being able to be empathetic.
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gah stupid wordpad fu**** it up xD
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OMG! I hate that crap too!
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lol
Please check my sonic fanfic!
its so good
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I dont like reading about sonic fan stuff sorry x3
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specialy Hannah Montanna!
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Still angry at you for HATING SHAYMIN! But dude, you SO OWNED Hannah Montanah!
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Yeah Hannahs like "MOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! LIKE MAH SONGS! MOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" Like So- WAIT! I hear a cow!"I SAID LIKE MY SONGS! MOOOOOO!!!!!" SHE FOUND ME RUN LIKE HELL!
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i agree with everything there.
specally hanna -choke- Montana.lol, too ugly to describe.
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DANCE ON HER FACE!!!!!!
*dances on hanna Montana's face and gets sued*
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crap srry my mom started yelling at me to go to bed.. O.O i r srry ima gonna see if i can upload some of it b4 i go to skool...
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omg i think i got one on there... gonna check.
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Fucking agree wth you... and the cat is cuuute
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you must be my soul mate or something
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U R SUPER AWESOME XD
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Fffffff I AGREEEEEE. :'D
Well, not really on Shaymin, seeing as I don't really count it as a pokemon, but yes, the creationism crap is true. It's pure bulllllll. C:
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Funny XD
...But i've got some sad news for you....all poop stinks, no matter what orginism you are 8D
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xD EXEPT when your a poop beetle they live off of poop C: AND dogs eat catpoop and bird poop because it smells good for them xD but thats gross
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Oh, yea...you're right XD I'd forgotten about those XD lol C:
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I think I love you, LOL. XD
You said this stuff so well.
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LOL
The star banners made the description, 'specially for cat poop
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