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Published: 2009-04-14 15:37:13 +0000 UTC; Views: 873; Favourites: 24; Downloads: 0
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Ok, FIRST OFF, I want to say that I DID TAKE THIS PHOTO!!!Countless peaple have accused me of "taking" the image from somewhere and claiming it! It was JUST BY COINCEDENCE that it looks so similar!
Again I took this back when I was last at Strasburg PA in the PA Railroad Museum across the street.
This photo can ilistrait who far we've come with steam techknology! The TAHOE was built by (I believe) Baldwin in 1875, the locomotive in the background I think is a PRR K4 Pacific. As we all know the PRR Pacifics were produced in the 1930's. If I'm wrong please correct me!
Anyway, in less than 100 years look how far we've advanced. As time moved on locomotives grew larger, longer, and heavier. this picture illistraits that easily!
Hope you guys like!
PS: !!!DO NOT FAV UNLESS YOU COMMENT!!!
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I know how you feel. I took a similar picture that I didn't submit. I think the Illuminati must be making every railfan with a camera take the same picture.
LOOMINATI Y U DO DIS?
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Hate to burst your bubble but that pennsy locomotive is the g5s class locomotive a more powerful version of the k4's & e6's of the time
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You're not bursting my bubble. I wasn't entirely sure whether or not it was a K4 or not.
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Well now you know.
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I would assume most V&T moguls as Baldwin. Only 5 weren't!
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I've always been a sucker for the "Old Timers". 
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Actually, 5741 is a G5, not a K4 (she's missing a trailing truck).
Regardless, the colors in this photo really pop!
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Well I was ALOT younger then, per middle shool!
So forgive me on my inaccuracies.
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Not a problem at all!
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Gotta Love Slide Valve Gear on Six Coupled's with One Leading Axle!
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Why don't you just say Mogul?
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See, wasn't that easier?
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Yesh. MOGULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
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The Tahoe is one of the last locomotives the V&T purchased during the boom days (Pre 1880). While she is a good looking machine in form, I do wish they would give her an accurate paint job. She is one of a handful of locomotives that still has its original factory paint, under all the layers of "history".
It is a shame to think that 50 years ago when the first historians thought locomotives were painted like that didn't take more time to go through surviving records to find accurate notes on these things. Instead the diesels came along and the steam locomotive builders one by one disposed of the old outdated records. It's taken 50 years of digging for we historians to figure it all out again.
In case you're wondering how I know that the Tahoe is painted wrong. V&T Locomotive paint jobs are ALL documented. I can show you what the Tahoe looked like as built, and at the end of her carrier on the V&T and what she looked like in 2nd hand service before going to the railroad fairs. I guess it also helps that I am a V&T modeler.
Tahoe is a beaut! She's the last of the V&T locomotives I haven't seen/touched in person.
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I would be rather interested in seeing those "Original" paint schemes! I like the one she has but I might like the original ones better!
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According to my notes:
#20 Tahoe was delivered wine color, style 1, Russia iron, brass bands. Brass dome, cyls, iron heads. Painted ash cab. Bonnet stack. General finish K4. No end tool box on the tender.
What does this mean?
This means it was painted like Eureka and Palisade #4 "Eureka". The "Eureka" is painted Lake Color, Baldwin Style 1. The difference between Lake and Wine is simple, Lake is a more purple hued brown shade while Wine was a deep burgundy. Think of the colors on a Dr Pepper can, there is a deep deep burgundy color used for shading on the cans. That color is fairly close to "Wine".
For the record; NPC #12 "Sonoma" is painted Lake, Style 1 as well. V&T #13 "Empire" is Lake, Style 1 however the restoration is incorrect! "Empire" would have been Wine just like "Tahoe", when "Empire" was restored in the 1970s they did not know there was a difference in the color. The "Tahoe" as you see painted at the RR Museum of PA is painted in a scheme not close to any scheme the Tahoe wore during her service life. That scheme itself was invented by railfans for the railroad fairs that "Tahoe" took place in before coming to rest in PA. Sadly many of the oldest locomotives in the county are restored in similar manners. While it is great they were saved for future generations, the paint jobs the majority have wound up wearing over the years have been pure invention. Even the fire engine red color used on the Golden Spike locomotives initially was simply "invented" by two historians who had no real evidence; thus the idea of Red and Black locomotives started there and spread to every other "old time" locomotive in the country.
In reality fire engine red would have been considered near obscene in the 1870s! We often forget that society back then viewed things differently than we do, bright colors and black were hardly used except for contrasting trim colors and they were tasteful in design.
It is amazing how much Hollywood has screwed up how we view history.
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Tell me about it!
But at least now the Golden Spike Locomotives are in more "Accurate" schemes.
Though some visual aid of the Tahoe's original scheme/schemes would be nice. Even if done in MS pain.
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I think the K4s were first built in the late 19-teens, actually, which only goes on to prove your point all the better. (However... might that be a PRR Atlantic? 
IN ANY CASE, that is a pretty darn neat comparison shot.
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Nope, it's definently a Pacific! The PRR museum has only 2 Atlantics. The first is #7002, the second, who's # slips my mind, is displayed out side!
And yes! Strasburg is an AMAZING PLACE!!!!
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That number slipping your mind is PRR E6 #460.
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Thank you! Thanks for the reminder!
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You're Welcome! 
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Well, they do move their stuff around, and that being an old photo...
But yes.
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Technology has advanced very far very fast. This picture shows it very well.
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Quite nice if I do say so myself. Good eye in catching that, it clearly illustrates what your trying to say. I think if you tweak this picture a little in a program like "Lightroom" then it might look even better.
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I'm not too savy in that dapartment, I just scaned and posted.
Oh and its good to see you still ALIVE!!! Its been a while!
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When you mean scanned and posted, you mean that the picture is from a film camera, not a digital?
Yah, I know I haven't communicated with you much. College is keeping me busy.
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Yep, it was a film camera. My Mom used to have a REALLY awsome 35mm one. I ended up rusting up somehow.
And yeah, I understand that college takes up alot of time!
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That place is awesome! I went there back in 2000 and that place is just great. But its also how amazing quickly technology advances with time.
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I mean when you think about it, at the dawn of the 19th cetury we essencialy were still in Nepoleonic techknologies. 100 years later we founded the tech for the weapons of WWI and Armoured Warships, ect...
Personaly I thing the 19th is on of, IF NOT, the most important time period in WORLD history!!!
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Not to mention the 20th Century was important as well, I mean the transcontinental railroad was completed in 1869, 100 years later in 1969, we landed on the moon.
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That goes to further prove my point!
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Beautiful aren't they! I especialy like the Tahoe!
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Your pic is very impressive!
The trains dont look real! There are too perfect!
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Well they are! I've been up close and personal to them!!!
And they're also in a museum, they tend to dust and polish the exsibits ALOT!!!
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