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I think that mindset is complete and utter bullshit. In the end, who's not going to Hell?You're supposed to be nice and kind, like they told you to be, right? Not spiteful little bitches that say everyone is going to hell for not thinking like you. Hell doesn't even exist and if it does, then I'd rather hang out with Lucifer than god.
What else should I add to this, guys?
EDIT: People who can't read: nowhere did I state this came from the Bible and nowhere did I state that all religious people think this way. You silly, illiterate people. c:
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nothing-here-to-do In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 09:13:18 +0000 UTC]
omg. haha... I´m so going to hell.. Im totally doomd xD
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PandaSirLoin In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 09:10:36 +0000 UTC]
Me and Satan are gonna chill and burn sluts.
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Metlina-chan In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 09:02:31 +0000 UTC]
If I end up in hell with such reasonable people, then I'm really looking forward to it
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Yerdian In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 08:43:30 +0000 UTC]
I agree with all of this, except the supporting abortion part. In my opinion killing an innocent human being cannot be justified.
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PandaSirLoin In reply to Yerdian [2012-03-28 09:11:52 +0000 UTC]
Abortion is fucking awesome.
Population control. Do we really need 6,000,000,000+ people on Earth? No. We don't. One fucking baby can go.
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Yerdian In reply to PandaSirLoin [2012-03-28 09:53:14 +0000 UTC]
Now that you mention it... yes, you're right. Let's start with the people who support abortion!
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Lumenatra In reply to Yerdian [2012-03-28 12:05:50 +0000 UTC]
Sometimes abortion is necessary. There are so many sensitive situations and possibilities that you can't expect to know everyone's circumstances. Abortion for the sake of it, and being too lazy for contraception isn't right, and is just unhealthy. But you can't expect a mother with a defected fetus that will kill both her and the child at birth is not a case where abortion is necessary.
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Yerdian In reply to Lumenatra [2012-03-28 12:37:06 +0000 UTC]
I understand it when the mother is going to die, but I meant abortion in general; people who blame the child while they chose to have (unprotected) sex themselves.
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Lumenatra In reply to Yerdian [2012-03-28 12:42:18 +0000 UTC]
But "abortion in general" most often has pretty good solid ground for why the mother is doing it. Not that many women are going to put themselves through a painful medical procedure instead of taking precaution. It might be better to say you are against "abortion for the hell of it".
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Yerdian In reply to Lumenatra [2012-03-28 13:50:15 +0000 UTC]
Most abortions are done because people choose to have sex and don't want to deal with the responsibilities when something happens. I don't think that is a good reason. I can somewhat understand it when the mother is going to die, because then it's the choice between 2 lives that cannot be avoided. But as for abortion in general... I think it's disgusting.
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Lumenatra In reply to Yerdian [2012-03-28 14:38:34 +0000 UTC]
Usually people just abort it very early when it's hardly a life form at all. I for one think abortion is MUCH less disgusting than raising a child in a bad environment with retarded parents who are unfit to look after themselves, never mind impressionable kids. You really think it's fair to give birth to a child and give it up for adoption when there are SO many orphaned children in the world? Now that's not fair to just add to the sadness and the already WAY over populated human race. I wish stupid people could be sterilized permanently, then abortion wouldn't be needed, but sadly this can't happen, and so I am pro-abortion when it comes to retards who choose not to use contraception. I'm also pro-abortion when it comes to children with major disabilities, malformations and such. That's not a fair life for anyone.
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Yerdian In reply to Lumenatra [2012-03-28 16:04:33 +0000 UTC]
Don't know about you, but I'd rather be an orphan than dead. Being an orphan does not equal becoming a sad emo. Because many children who actually were wanted have unhappy lives, too. There are a lot of orphans who are happy. Don't want kids? Don't take the risk, I'd say. People are overpopulated, yes, but I cannot get it over my heart to support killing an innocent human being for the parents' irresponsible choice. People who have abortions are in my eyes no better than people who kill babies or children.
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Lumenatra In reply to Yerdian [2012-03-28 17:09:27 +0000 UTC]
I feel you have a very young and ignorant outlook on life judging by the way you respond, and I really hope you never have to discover reality the hard way. Also, orphans can become a lot worse than "a sad emo", that's terribly belittling of you to refer to them that way actually. You clearly haven't been exposed to the serious hardships of life, and may it stay that way.
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Yerdian In reply to Lumenatra [2012-03-28 20:36:05 +0000 UTC]
Just because I don't support abortion it doesn't mean that I'm ignorant. You cannot force everyone to agree with abortion. I have already named the reasons why I cannot get it over my heart to support the death of innocent people. And please read before you write. You are the one who marked orphans as ''doomed to live a sad life'' not me. I said that orphans aren't always leading a bad life without parents. There are plenty of orphans who are happier than a lot of people who DID have parents to raise them. So being an orphan does not equal becoming a doomed figure that will lead a sad life.
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Lumenatra In reply to Yerdian [2012-03-31 13:00:00 +0000 UTC]
Right, not every orphan will have a sad life, but more will have sad lives if more orphans are born into this world. And yes I said many of them will have sad lives, but you used the term "emo", when the sadness of an orphan with abusive foster parents is much more grave than the term "emo". Your use of that silly and light-hearted word in regards to their hardships is what I found disrespectful to their real and true suffering.
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Yerdian In reply to Lumenatra [2012-03-31 13:06:08 +0000 UTC]
Oh. I'm sorry if I came off disrespectful. I didn't know you considered emo as an insult. But it's ok. You have your opinion and I have mine.
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DaniilEst In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 08:42:00 +0000 UTC]
Silly Americano Christians. It's not nice to tell people that they're going to hell.
Let God sort them out and mind your own business, is what I say.
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Kysska In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 08:36:23 +0000 UTC]
Lol, the "You're going to hell" with the flames and everything makes me laugh XD
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Demon-Fire-Fox In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 08:30:57 +0000 UTC]
This is great. XD!!! It suits the logic of some people from ANY race or religion. Just any close-minded person in general really. >> <<
You should at "Love someone of another race?". I've heard SO MANY TIMES about that one, and from several different races and religions, including my own. XD!
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tdlob In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 08:30:48 +0000 UTC]
"Watch/read the Harrry Potter movies/books? YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!"
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Haters-Gonna-Hate-Me In reply to tdlob [2012-03-28 15:19:27 +0000 UTC]
Oh my god... that reminds me of when I went to Girl Scout camp and we were forbidden to even mention the Harry Potter books. :I Fucking Utah...
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AndSoItWillBe In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 08:29:00 +0000 UTC]
Well...I'm going to hell, that's for certain. Good thing too, since most of us will end up there anyways. Heaven will be very empty and pretty dull, it would seem.
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Moony92 In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 08:28:32 +0000 UTC]
It's funny, because Hell doesn't even exist in the bible. xD The word derived from Hel, which was the name of the underworld in Norse Mythology. The word Hell or Hel isn't even in the original text. A lot of people misinterpret the bible's verses. The words that are mentioned are Sheol, and Gehenna, which are only a metaphor for death and not an actual place of suffering. Even the phrase "eternal fire" is just another metaphor for death, because in the bible the concept of death is that when you die you cease to exist, as if everything that made you who you are when you were alive was burned away into non-existence by a never-ending flame. Hell as a place where the wicked go to pay for their sins was a fabrication of the church. If a so-called Christian believes in Hell, then they're grossly misinformed. Fail logic indeed.
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No-Fawks-Given In reply to Moony92 [2012-03-28 10:44:45 +0000 UTC]
So, supposedly when Jesus comes back to put a boot is Satan's ass, he isn't "casting him in a lake of fire" to spend an eternity of suffering, but actually killing him off?
Why the fuck wait this long? I think this concept is ridiculous considering that the Christian god allows Satan to do what he does and even gives him permission to do so at one point. The Christian god is a fucking hypocrite.
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Moony92 In reply to No-Fawks-Given [2012-03-28 14:15:31 +0000 UTC]
Okaaay. I hope I didn't upset you with my comment? That wasn't my intention. I don't think it's that simple, but I can see you have your own personal opinion and that's fine.
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No-Fawks-Given In reply to Moony92 [2012-03-28 16:47:08 +0000 UTC]
I wasn't lashing out at you! lol You didn't upset me, I agree with your statement and I find your information bears validity.
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Moony92 In reply to No-Fawks-Given [2012-03-29 01:34:22 +0000 UTC]
Oh, lol sorry. xD I guess I just misunderstood. derp : P
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SwanCake In reply to Moony92 [2012-03-28 09:25:03 +0000 UTC]
I just loves when logic comes and makes my day brighter
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pakaworld In reply to ??? [2012-03-28 08:27:11 +0000 UTC]
There is no place in the Bible that says that bad people will go to hell as some churches teach.
Definition: The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other translations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Other Bibles simply transliterate the original-language words that are sometimes rendered “hell”; that is, they express them with the letters of our alphabet but leave the words untranslated. What are those words? The Hebrew she’ohl′ and its Greek equivalent hai′des, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek ge′en‧na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction. However, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).
Does the Bible indicate whether the dead experience pain?
Eccl. 9:5, 10: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,* the place to which you are going.” (If they are conscious of nothing, they obviously feel no pain.) (*“Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB; “the grave,” KJ, Kx; “hell,” Dy; “the world of the dead,” TEV.)
Ps. 146:4: “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts* do perish.” (*“Thoughts,” KJ, 145:4 in Dy; “schemes,” JB; “plans,” RS, TEV.)
Does the Bible indicate that the soul survives the death of the body?
Ezek. 18:4: “The soul* that is sinning—it itself will die.” (*“Soul,” KJ, Dy, RS, NE, Kx; “the man,” JB; “the person,” TEV.)
“The concept of ‘soul,’ meaning a purely spiritual, immaterial reality, separate from the ‘body,’ . . . does not exist in the Bible.”—La Parole de Dieu (Paris, 1960), Georges Auzou, professor of Sacred Scripture, Rouen Seminary, France, p. 128.
“Although the Hebrew word nefesh [in the Hebrew Scriptures] is frequently translated as ‘soul,’ it would be inaccurate to read into it a Greek meaning. Nefesh . . . is never conceived of as operating separately from the body. In the New Testament the Greek word psyche is often translated as ‘soul’ but again should not be readily understood to have the meaning the word had for the Greek philosophers. It usually means ‘life,’ or ‘vitality,’ or, at times, ‘the self.’”—The Encyclopedia Americana (1977), Vol. 25, p. 236.
What sort of people go to the Bible hell?
Does the Bible say that the wicked go to hell?
Ps. 9:17, KJ: “The wicked shall be turned into hell,* and all the nations that forget God.” (*“Hell,” 9:18 in Dy; “death,” TEV; “the place of death,” Kx; “Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB, NW.)
Does the Bible also say that upright people go to hell?
Job 14:13, Dy: “[Job prayed:] Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me in hell,* and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a time when thou wilt remember me?” (God himself said that Job was “a man blameless and upright, fearing God and turning aside from bad.”—Job 1:8.) (*“The grave,” KJ; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB, NW.)
Acts 2:25-27, KJ: “David speaketh concerning him [Jesus Christ], . . . Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell,* neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.” (The fact that God did not “leave” Jesus in hell implies that Jesus was in hell, or Hades, at least for a time, does it not?) (*“Hell,” Dy; “death,” NE; “the place of death,” Kx; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Hades,” AS, RS, JB, NW.)
Does anyone ever get out of the Bible hell?
Rev. 20:13, 14, KJ: “The sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell* delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.” (So the dead will be delivered from hell. Notice also that hell is not the same as the lake of fire but will be cast into the lake of fire.) (*“Hell,” Dy, Kx; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Hades,” NE, AS, RS, JB, NW.)
Why is there confusion as to what the Bible says about hell?
“Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception.”—The Encyclopedia Americana (1942), Vol. XIV, p. 81.
Translators have allowed their personal beliefs to color their work instead of being consistent in their rendering of the original-language words. For example: (1) The King James Version rendered she’ohl′ as “hell,” “the grave,” and “the pit”; hai′des is therein rendered both “hell” and “grave”; ge′en‧na is also translated “hell.” (2) Today’s English Version transliterates hai′des as “Hades” and also renders it as “hell” and “the world of the dead.” But besides rendering “hell” from hai′des it uses that same translation for ge′en‧na. (3) The Jerusalem Bible transliterates hai′des six times, but in other passages it translates it as “hell” and as “the underworld.” It also translates ge′en‧na as “hell,” as it does hai′des in two instances. Thus the exact meanings of the original-language words have been obscured.
Is there eternal punishment for the wicked?
Matt. 25:46, KJ: “These shall go away into everlasting punishment [“lopping off,” Int; Greek, ko′la‧sin]: but the righteous into life eternal.” (The Emphatic Diaglott reads “cutting-off” instead of “punishment.” A footnote states: “Kolasin . . . is derived from kolazoo, which signifies, 1. To cut off; as lopping off branches of trees, to prune. 2. To restrain, to repress. . . . 3. To chastise, to punish. To cut off an individual from life, or society, or even to restrain, is esteemed as punishment;—hence has arisen this third metaphorical use of the word. The primary signification has been adopted, because it agrees better with the second member of the sentence, thus preserving the force and beauty of the antithesis. The righteous go to life, the wicked to the cutting off from life, or death. See 2 Thess. 1.9.”)
2 Thess. 1:9, RS: “They shall suffer the punishment of eternal destruction* and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might.” (*“Eternal ruin,” NAB, NE; “lost eternally,” JB; “condemn them to eternal punishment,” Kx; “eternal punishment in destruction,” Dy.)
Jude 7, KJ: “Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (The fire that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah ceased burning thousands of years ago. But the effect of that fire has been lasting; the cities have not been rebuilt. God’s judgment, however, was against not merely those cities but also their wicked inhabitants. What happened to them is a warning example. At Luke 17:29, Jesus says that they were “destroyed”; Jude 7 shows that the destruction was eternal.)
What is the meaning of the ‘eternal torment’ referred to in Revelation?
Rev. 14:9-11; 20:10, KJ: “If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment [Greek, basa‧ni‧smou′] ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.” “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
What is the ‘torment’ to which these texts refer? It is noteworthy that at Revelation 11:10 (KJ) reference is made to ‘prophets that torment those dwelling on the earth.’ Such torment results from humiliating exposure by the messages that these prophets proclaim. At Revelation 14:9-11 (KJ) worshipers of the symbolic “beast and his image” are said to be “tormented with fire and brimstone.” This cannot refer to conscious torment after death because “the dead know not any thing.” (Eccl. 9:5, KJ) Then, what causes them to experience such torment while they are still alive? It is the proclamation by God’s servants that worshipers of the “beast and his image” will experience second death, which is represented by “the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.” The smoke, associated with their fiery destruction, ascends forever because the destruction will be eternal and will never be forgotten. When Revelation 20:10 says that the Devil is to experience ‘torment forever and ever’ in “the lake of fire and brimstone,” what does that mean? Revelation 21:8 (KJ) says clearly that “the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone” means “the second death.” So the Devil’s being “tormented” there forever means that there will be no relief for him; he will be held under restraint forever, actually in eternal death. This use of the word “torment” (from the Greek ba′sa‧nos) reminds one of its use at Matthew 18:34, where the same basic Greek word is applied to a ‘jailer.’—RS, AT, ED, NW.
What is the ‘fiery Gehenna’ to which Jesus referred?
Reference to Gehenna appears 12 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures. Five times it is directly associated with fire. Translators have rendered the Greek expression ge′en‧nan tou py‧ros′ as “hell fire” (KJ, Dy), “fires of hell” (NE), “fiery pit” (AT), and “fires of Gehenna” (NAB).
Historical background: The Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna) was outside the walls of Jerusalem. For a time it was the site of idolatrous worship, including child sacrifice. In the first century Gehenna was being used as the incinerator for the filth of Jerusalem. Bodies of dead animals were thrown into the valley to be consumed in the fires, to which sulfur, or brimstone, was added to assist the burning. Also bodies of executed criminals, who were considered undeserving of burial in a memorial tomb, were thrown into Gehenna. Thus, at Matthew 5:29, 30, Jesus spoke of the casting of one’s “whole body” into Gehenna. If the body fell into the constantly burning fire it was consumed, but if it landed on a ledge of the deep ravine its putrefying flesh became infested with the ever-present worms, or maggots. (Mark 9:47, 48) Living humans were not pitched into Gehenna; so it was not a place of conscious torment.
At Matthew 10:28, Jesus warned his hearers to “be in fear of him that can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.” What does it mean? Notice that there is no mention here of torment in the fires of Gehenna; rather, he says to ‘fear him that can destroy in Gehenna.’ By referring to the “soul” separately, Jesus here emphasizes that God can destroy all of a person’s life prospects; thus there is no hope of resurrection for him. So, the references to the ‘fiery Gehenna’ have the same meaning as ‘the lake of fire’ of Revelation 21:8, namely, destruction, “second death.”
What does the Bible say the penalty for sin is?
Rom. 6:23: “The wages sin pays is death.”
After one’s death, is he still subject to further punishment for his sins?
Rom. 6:7: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”
Is eternal torment of the wicked compatible with God’s personality?
Jer. 7:31: “They [apostate Judeans] have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.” (If it never came into God’s heart, surely he does not have and use such a thing on a larger scale.)
Illustration: What would you think of a parent who held his child’s hand over a fire to punish the child for wrongdoing? “God is love.” (1 John 4:8) Would he do what no right-minded human parent would do? Certainly not!
By what Jesus said about the rich man and Lazarus, did Jesus teach torment of the wicked after death?
Is the account, at Luke 16:19-31, literal or merely an illustration of something else? The Jerusalem Bible, in a footnote, acknowledges that it is a “parable in story form without reference to any historical personage.” If taken literally, it would mean that those enjoying divine favor could all fit at the bosom of one man, Abraham; that the water on one’s fingertip would not be evaporated by the fire of Hades; that a mere drop of water would bring relief to one suffering there. Does that sound reasonable to you? If it were literal, it would conflict with other parts of the Bible. If the Bible were thus contradictory, would a lover of truth use it as a basis for his faith? But the Bible does not contradict itself.
What does the parable mean? The “rich man” represented the Pharisees. (See verse 14.) The beggar Lazarus represented the common Jewish people who were despised by the Pharisees but who repented and became followers of Jesus. (See Luke 18:11; John 7:49; Matthew 21:31, 32.) Their deaths were also symbolic, representing a change in circumstances. Thus, the formerly despised ones came into a position of divine favor, and the formerly seemingly favored ones were rejected by God, while being tormented by the judgment messages delivered by the ones whom they had despised.—Acts 5:33; 7:54.
What is the origin of the teaching of hellfire?
In ancient Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs the “nether world . . . is pictured as a place full of horrors, and is presided over by gods and demons of great strength and fierceness.” (The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, Boston, 1898, Morris Jastrow, Jr., p. 581) Early evidence of the fiery aspect of Christendom’s hell is found in the religion of ancient Egypt. (The Book of the Dead, New Hyde Park, N.Y., 1960, with introduction by E. A. Wallis Budge, pp. 144, 149, 151, 153, 161) Buddhism, which dates back to the 6th century B.C.E., in time came to feature both hot and cold hells. (The Encyclopedia Americana, 1977, Vol. 14, p. 68) Depictions of hell portrayed in Catholic churches in Italy have been traced to Etruscan roots.—La civiltà etrusca (Milan, 1979), Werner Keller, p. 389.
But the real roots of this God-dishonoring doctrine go much deeper. The fiendish concepts associated with a hell of torment slander God and originate with the chief slanderer of God (the Devil, which name means “Slanderer”), the one whom Jesus Christ called “the father of the lie.”—John 8:44.
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HELL - A word used in the King James Version (as well as in the Catholic Douay Version and most older translations) to translate the Hebrew sheʼohl′ and the Greek hai′des. In the King James Version the word “hell” is rendered from sheʼohl′ 31 times and from hai′des 10 times. This version is not consistent, however, since sheʼohl′ is also translated 31 times “grave” and 3 times “pit.” In the Douay Version sheʼohl′ is rendered “hell” 64 times, “pit” once, and “death” once.
In 1885, with the publication of the complete English Revised Version, the original word sheʼohl′ was in many places transliterated into the English text of the Hebrew Scriptures, though, in most occurrences, “grave” and “pit” were used, and “hell” is found some 14 times. This was a point on which the American committee disagreed with the British revisers, and so, when producing the American Standard Version (1901) they transliterated sheʼohl′ in all 65 of its appearances. Both versions transliterated hai′des in the Christian Greek Scriptures in all ten of its occurrences, though the Greek word Ge′en‧na (English, “Gehenna”) is rendered “hell” throughout, as is true of many other modern translations.
Concerning this use of “hell” to translate these original words from the Hebrew and Greek, Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words (1981, Vol. 2, p. 187) says: “HADES . . . It corresponds to ‘Sheol’ in the O.T. [Old Testament]. In the A.V. of the O.T. [Old Testament] and N.T. [New Testament], it has been unhappily rendered ‘Hell.’”
Collier’s Encyclopedia (1986, Vol. 12, p. 28) says concerning “Hell”: “First it stands for the Hebrew Sheol of the Old Testament and the Greek Hades of the Septuagint and New Testament. Since Sheol in Old Testament times referred simply to the abode of the dead and suggested no moral distinctions, the word ‘hell,’ as understood today, is not a happy translation.”
It is, in fact, because of the way that the word “hell” is understood today that it is such an unsatisfactory translation of these original Bible words. Webster’s Third New International Dictionary, unabridged, under “Hell” says: “fr[om] . . . helan to conceal.” The word “hell” thus originally conveyed no thought of heat or torment but simply of a ‘covered over or concealed place.’ In the old English dialect the expression “helling potatoes” meant, not to roast them, but simply to place the potatoes in the ground or in a cellar.
The meaning given today to the word “hell” is that portrayed in Dante’s Divine Comedy and Milton’s Paradise Lost, which meaning is completely foreign to the original definition of the word. The idea of a “hell” of fiery torment, however, dates back long before Dante or Milton. The Grolier Universal Encyclopedia (1971, Vol. 9, p. 205) under “Hell” says: “Hindus and Buddhists regard hell as a place of spiritual cleansing and final restoration. Islamic tradition considers it as a place of everlasting punishment.” The idea of suffering after death is found among the pagan religious teachings of ancient peoples in Babylon and Egypt. Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs depicted the “nether world . . . as a place full of horrors, . . . presided over by gods and demons of great strength and fierceness.” Although ancient Egyptian religious texts do not teach that the burning of any individual victim would go on forever, they do portray the “Other World” as featuring “pits of fire” for “the damned.”—The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, by Morris Jastrow, Jr., 1898, p. 581; The Book of the Dead, with introduction by E. Wallis Budge, 1960, pp. 135, 144, 149, 151, 153, 161, 200.
“Hellfire” has been a basic teaching in Christendom for many centuries. It is understandable why The Encyclopedia Americana (1956, Vol. XIV, p. 81) said: “Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception.” Nevertheless, such transliteration and consistent rendering does enable the Bible student to make an accurate comparison of the texts in which these original words appear and, with open mind, thereby to arrive at a correct understanding of their true significance.
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aleniakalain In reply to pakaworld [2012-03-28 12:12:23 +0000 UTC]
This was very informative (XD though I've to say, you might have added some spaces between questions, it's so hard to read like this), thank you for sharing!
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pakaworld In reply to aleniakalain [2012-03-28 12:45:38 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. Next time I will do that. Thank you again for reading it.
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pakaworld In reply to HeiMantaHei [2012-03-28 10:37:42 +0000 UTC]
Ok what about this one. Hell
Definition: The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other translations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Other Bibles simply transliterate the original-language words that are sometimes rendered “hell”; that is, they express them with the letters of our alphabet but leave the words untranslated. What are those words? The Hebrew she’ohl′ and its Greek equivalent hai′des, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek ge′en‧na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction. However, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).
Does the Bible indicate whether the dead experience pain?
Eccl. 9:5, 10: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,* the place to which you are going.” (If they are conscious of nothing, they obviously feel no pain.) (*“Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB; “the grave,” KJ, Kx; “hell,” Dy; “the world of the dead,” TEV.)
Ps. 146:4: “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts* do perish.” (*“Thoughts,” KJ, 145:4 in Dy; “schemes,” JB; “plans,” RS, TEV.)
Does the Bible indicate that the soul survives the death of the body?
Ezek. 18:4: “The soul* that is sinning—it itself will die.” (*“Soul,” KJ, Dy, RS, NE, Kx; “the man,” JB; “the person,” TEV.)
“The concept of ‘soul,’ meaning a purely spiritual, immaterial reality, separate from the ‘body,’ . . . does not exist in the Bible.”—La Parole de Dieu (Paris, 1960), Georges Auzou, professor of Sacred Scripture, Rouen Seminary, France, p. 128.
“Although the Hebrew word nefesh [in the Hebrew Scriptures] is frequently translated as ‘soul,’ it would be inaccurate to read into it a Greek meaning. Nefesh . . . is never conceived of as operating separately from the body. In the New Testament the Greek word psyche is often translated as ‘soul’ but again should not be readily understood to have the meaning the word had for the Greek philosophers. It usually means ‘life,’ or ‘vitality,’ or, at times, ‘the self.’”—The Encyclopedia Americana (1977), Vol. 25, p. 236.
What sort of people go to the Bible hell?
Does the Bible say that the wicked go to hell?
Ps. 9:17, KJ: “The wicked shall be turned into hell,* and all the nations that forget God.” (*“Hell,” 9:18 in Dy; “death,” TEV; “the place of death,” Kx; “Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB, NW.)
Does the Bible also say that upright people go to hell?
Job 14:13, Dy: “[Job prayed:] Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me in hell,* and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a time when thou wilt remember me?” (God himself said that Job was “a man blameless and upright, fearing God and turning aside from bad.”—Job 1:8.) (*“The grave,” KJ; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB, NW.)
Acts 2:25-27, KJ: “David speaketh concerning him [Jesus Christ], . . . Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell,* neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.” (The fact that God did not “leave” Jesus in hell implies that Jesus was in hell, or Hades, at least for a time, does it not?) (*“Hell,” Dy; “death,” NE; “the place of death,” Kx; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Hades,” AS, RS, JB, NW.)
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HeiMantaHei In reply to pakaworld [2012-03-28 12:33:57 +0000 UTC]
I don't believe in the word of the bible So yeah, didn't read that one either
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pakaworld In reply to HeiMantaHei [2012-03-28 12:44:56 +0000 UTC]
But I know you believe that you were created(made) by somebody who is clever and wise than Steve Jobs.
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HeiMantaHei In reply to pakaworld [2012-03-28 15:52:59 +0000 UTC]
No. I'm not "created". I'm just a human
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pakaworld In reply to HeiMantaHei [2012-03-29 10:25:58 +0000 UTC]
OK but I believe that you know that somebody design and made your computer. And it did not come by chance. or?
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HeiMantaHei In reply to pakaworld [2012-03-29 10:30:34 +0000 UTC]
Are you comparing a human to a computer? :3
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pakaworld In reply to HeiMantaHei [2012-03-29 10:52:17 +0000 UTC]
Am not but I just what to know whether you believe that somebody made the computer? Or OK I hope you believe that somebody build the house or building you are in or what do you think?
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HeiMantaHei In reply to pakaworld [2012-03-29 11:06:06 +0000 UTC]
Why are you asking such questions? Aren't the answers clear already? Or do you think I'm stupid or something? ^^
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pakaworld In reply to HeiMantaHei [2012-03-29 12:06:17 +0000 UTC]
Sorry if I make you feel "stupid" But I what to know your view on that.
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Freakin-Ninja In reply to pakaworld [2012-03-28 15:05:32 +0000 UTC]
I doubt that she believes that anyone created her, other than her mother and father.
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pakaworld In reply to Freakin-Ninja [2012-03-29 10:26:48 +0000 UTC]
Just have patience with him.
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