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Published: 2018-09-08 18:54:28 +0000 UTC; Views: 17138; Favourites: 241; Downloads: 0
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This here is the final part of the battle between Hulk and Doomsday and as you see here, the victor over this intense battle between the mighty titan is none other than “Doomsday” himself ending the ‘World-Breaker Hulk’ to the death and by ripping his whole head off his body claiming as his trophy of a worthy adversary of this Death-Battle fight.Related content
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What did you think of the way the characters were done
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The villains r awesome. But, Dr.Octopus characters is alright I guess, he’s bald instead of having hair. Peter Spider-Man suit that I don’t like it at all, they could’ve stick with one of the movie version of Spider-Man like the the amazing Spider-Man 1 & 2 or at least homecoming. They finally made spidey’s eyes movable. The rest was Awesome, truly AWESOME. EXCEPT the ending part of Harry Osborn being infected by some disease or venom, right?
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well I played the whole game in the MCU suit after I got it
Yeah I think that's venom
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And what did think of spidey’s suit in the Game?
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not something I'd settle on
But no offense to peter but It's hard not to think of him as a photographer
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I would have loved to have seen what Green Goblin would have looked like
Did the game itself give you any ideas
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It would be if the Green Goblin showns up in the game, hoping if they can another spider-man ps4 game like the 1st one
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I absolutely LOVE this. I'm a huge marvel fan but i wish they had some of DC's villains and heroes. For example Ahem lol Doomsday and the Flash. Yea i know marvel has Quicksilver and others but there is something about the Flash thats just so badass. Anyways back on topic lol since Doomsday can die only one way and revive without being hurt the same way again and plus his immense power OOF!!! here is the outcome.
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That's a lie, he has been beaten the same way more than once and killed multiple times, he was beaten to death AT LEAST twice.
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Are you forgetting that this is just my own opinion. lol Stay in your lane. Enjoy the art for what it is, for it is all just a fantasy even in comics. I love both Marvel and DC but what i love MORE are MY CHARACTERS. lol
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When you make up a concept about a character, that is not an opinion, I don't know if you've ever been anywhere near a superhero before, or superhero battles, but generally, you need to give out facts, you never started in your previous comment that it was a stupid little 'opinion' which don't matter in the real world, opinions don't get you a job, opinions don't pay taxes, facts and studying do, as you've done none of that, you're asking me to stay in my lane yet you don't know how to debate? If you're gonna post a comment about who would win, get your facts straight, little goof.
Are you trying to shamelessly promote your characters? Okay I'll bite, tell me about your characters.
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It's funny coming from someone who just had to troll on my positive outlook on doomsday taking on the hulk. It's funny if you've ever seen any of my artwork you can see that i am way above your league. I actually have 2 tall book shelves full of comics and manga. And a couple of those plastic FULL of single issues from when i was a kid. I'm pretty sure i'm no little goof for i am a grown man of 32 years of age with a wife, 2 kids, a huge house, 2 cars and a decent paying job and not to mention i'm actually part of the 1% who served my country. So i like how you say shamelessly when you can't even seem to do concept art correctly. I've studied plenty. lol If you got offended i feel bad for you. You need to have thick skin to stay up.
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Troll? at what point in my entire comment did I troll you? What kind of lies are coming from your mouth now? Positive Outlook? What does a positive outlook have to do with two characters fighting to the death? Buddy, it's YOU who is the troll here, please shut your mouth if you don't know what you're talking about.
We would hope that you'd be the better artist, you're twice my age (Though you act half it) 2 tall bookshelves? I have 1 tall website, where I can read HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS of comic books, so buddy, you've lost this one, let's compare our art!
My Art -
In my piece I have a clear indication of shadow, I have tone, colour, form, gesture, everything has a high impact that doesn't take away from the piece, it is truly remarkable.
Your... Work... -
Disproportionate and quite honestly hideous, the placement of the shadow it unclear and it takes away from the artwork, the light source placement is also really off, as it seems to be going from multiple directions but somehow none at all? The facial structure is flat and quite ugly, and the hands are bigger than the head... You clearly don't know ANYTHING about human anatomy, so stick to drawing crappy sketches.
You're 32 yet you act 8 years old, I have no idea how you were able to marry, but congratulations I guess? I am happy you found love, everyone deserves love, I'm being serious here, I'm happy for you, HOWEVER! I don't see how that stops you from being a goof? Also, I don't see how having kids makes you any less of a goof, (Although, again, congratulations on having kids, I hope you have wonderful memories and they live beautiful lives) same with having a big house... Or a job... What is your point?
You claim that I need to develop a thick skin when you took me debunking your absurd claims as a personal attack, that is wrong, I was simply telling you your facts weren't right, you didn't need to degrade my artwork, and I'm sorry if I degraded yours, but understand I need to stand up for myself as a man, I admire that you served your country, but that has nothing to do with the argument we are in and the fact that you need to pull things out of thin air is questionable, especially when we don't even live in the same country, it's irrelevant, why do you keep bringing up art when you don't know how to draw the human body correctly? Your arms are bigger than your torso, don't critique me unless you are as good or better...
A simple google search on your name and I saw that you aren't the person who wants this kind of beef, you look like a nice guy. Listen, bro, you aren't 6'6 250 pounds, you don't intimidate me, just take my comment as it was, an attempt to give you information, it was not a personal attack, it should have not been taken as a personal attack, all I was saying is that you were wrong and what's so offensive about calling someone a goof? It's just a poke, having some fun, do you want to know what your problem is? You're too serious, take a joke and just chill out bro... Little Goof... I'm sure we can be friends if we just tried to understand each other and talk our problems out.
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I don't want this beef?! lol I'm pretty sure I do. I'm to old anyways to make friends. You insult me in one sentence and compliment me on the next. What?? Do you have personality issues?? The person who drew this apparently likes Doomsday over the Hulk and that's alright. As for having a website with hundreds upon thousands of comics is good and all but back in my day either google was non-existent or barely starting when i was your age. So, we had to actually get up and go to the stores or comic book shops to actually purchase them. So no, you haven't won because once the website decides to take that content down your screwed. lol I like how you chose your supposed BEST artwork and you probably googled me like you said or went on my deviantart page and scrolled thru my artwork nitpicking and thought to yourself " Here I go this superman will do since it looks a bit off." Why is it that you didn't pick any of my recent illustrations?
To top of the line to criticize? No, Errors to poke fun at? lol I tend to draw my character's way more than someone else's. Check my biggest folder and you gonna see that its KAC. You say you have tone, color, form, gesture and high impact that doesn't take away from the piece but yet your art has something to be desired though. Your only 15 years old and have much to learn about anatomy and positioning. You call my art hideous, when in fact it is my own art style. You mention that I don't know ANYTHING about anatomy when i can draw male, female,children and backgrounds.
Again I can't help to think why you didn't choose my recent uploaded illustration lol but that's ok. I will continue with fact checking you. A person who likes to eloquently and elegantly choose his choice of words just to seem at the top of dominating the conversation. Crappy Sketches??? lol Do you lie to yourself and say that you are ready to be a REAL Comic Book Artist????..... because you not you have many more years to catch up to me. I'm 32 but yet act 8?? Hmmmmm? So that must mean that I am my kids best friend instead of being a parent eh?! lol I'm old enough to be your father kid. My point to telling you my personal life so that I could fact check you on YOUR OPINION on opinions. Your absolutely right i didn't have to attack your artwork but I did. True, we don't live in the same country for art is loved and felt throughout the world. You say I drew his arms bigger than his torso that's to indicate how powerful he is because if you ask any man or woman " What make a male look strong?" They are "A" going to say the "arms" or "B" a mans' " chest and shoulders". So I'm pretty sure I know what male dominance looks like. A simple google search eh? lol Feeling stalker-ish much? lol You could of just looked at my deviantart and on the top left it shows my age. I'm pretty sure I can "beef" with you for it is fun and keeps me on my toes for when I bump into people like you who apparently " know-it-all" by the age of 15. So, if I'm not 6'6 and 250 pounds you aren't afraid of me? Don't make me laugh I've fought people in the ARMY who are taller and heavier than that to still come out on top. As for calling a man my age " A LITTLE GOOF" isn't going to come back to anyone my age group as a joke. You say I.m too serious? Well, if you've lived in my shoes your whole life you would be too. All in all my friends and family know I'm a kind hearted, funny and professional man but when push comes to shove I'm a beast. You say that we surely can be friends if talked out but not in this life time for i have met people like you in person and you seem like the type to step on everybodies toes without any re-precautions. Well guess what? I used to eat bullies like you for breakfast back in high school. I used to bully the bullies. The only person I owe an apology to is Henil031 for feeding to your drama. Peace I'm out.
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Well that's an incredibly ignorant point of view 'I'm too old to make friends' can't imagine what it'll be like for you in the nursing home, I mean you're already acting like a grumpy old man who didn't get the last pudding, gramps, I think it's time you relaxed, took a step back and stop being so defensive, the world doesn't hate you, we're only trying to explain something to you, but you won't listen to reason, nice line from Killshot by the way, however, one, I'm not insulting you, or complimenting you, so get that out of your head, when the Website closes down or removes its content, there will obviously be an alternative website, if you knew about business, you'd know about supply and demand, if fans want something, they will eventually get it, so yeah, I have won... LOL! I chose the picture of Superman because I thought it was one of your best, certainly better than the 4 you just showed me.
Your female figures have WAY too short of limbs to look realistic, also, I love how you claim 'BUT DANIEL! THAT SUPERMAN IMAGE WASN'T RECENT!' My brother, it was submitted like 5 - 6 days ago depending on your time zone, which I don't care enough to check, brother, that's recent, I do not know what the hell you mean by that, please explain, also, I love how you keep sending stuff to me to get me to critique you and view your content to gain me as a fan, it's awesome, I know you just want to desperately be my friend, I mean, I understand why... I got like triple the watchers you do, and four times the page views, and I'm half your age... I'll also been on this website half the time... Come on bro step up! XD
Very mediocre, the shadow from the bag is too small, should have been closer placed to the bag, the girl's shadow, too much to the right, too short, also, the light source on the girl looks like it's coming from behind her, so her shadow should be in front of her, and the bag is the opposite, physics deny that making any sense, legs are too thick, the arms also look awkward, the rain effects are nice though, so there's that, also, the girl looks like she's about to fall over, next time, straighten her up a bit and maybe arch her legs a tiny bit.
Again, she looks too compacted in, too short, to thick legs, the light source and shading makes ZERO sense, but the abdomen is nicely drawn, but why does the front of her right leg look so flat? It's a bit weird, also she looks a bit expressionless.
Actually, I don't have too much to say here, this is pretty cool, but the torso and head is a bit small.
What's up with the hips and why does he look so short?
Here's a demonstration of how to draw figures with tone, shade and lighting
With this piece, you can CLEARLY see the light is coming from the back of him, he is in a dark area, noticed by his torso and front portion of his body being dark, his left leg is into the light as well, his body is proportionately shaped with the correct anatomy of a human being, the only form I got a bit too short was maybe the feet.
Lionman VS Daikon by The-Nemian-Lion
Here is a good example of large arms, yet not taking attention away from the torso, here clearly is proportionate to the Lionman, who albeit has altered muscle structure, of course being what he is, I could have made his arms a bit longer next time around.
Lionman - Homage to Dale Keown by The-Nemian-Lion
This is probably one of my best anatomy based drawings for him, everything is perfectly shaped, aside from the head, which is a bit too long for my liking, but he clearly has presence and dominance, his arms are huge but NOT larger than his torso, that's something I think you could benefit and learn from.
But if you want me to get into my BEST art, we have my photomanipultions.
Lionman - Transparent Background by The-Nemian-Lion
Here's one of them, but I won't touch on them too much because that wouldn't be very fair, this is strictly traditional and digital art based, and I don't want to play dirty.
No, I like to sound sophisticated so I do not sound like a dumbass, not saying you are, but I don't want to sound like neanderthals, that's my choice of words and I do not think that's something you should criticise, no I do not believe I'm ready to be a comic book artist, I haven't even started a university course, that comes soon and I'll be ready in a few short years, I know for fact that my art has improved over 100 times in the past 5 years and it'll probably see a 10 times improvement in the next 5, so no, I'm not that egotistical or narcissistic to assume I am already a professional, I can admit my mistakes and where I went wrong, can you?
I do not know your relationship with your kids, no you're not, that would mean you would have been 15 and a half when you had me, I'm 17 in a few months, the math doesn't add up bro, you're old enough to be an older brother, but I'm still acting like your father, brother.
You want to fact check my opinions on opinions? Could you explain yourself in more detail, you need to understand people have different comprehension, are you asking me what I think about opinions? I believe they are obsolete, is that what you're asking me?
Not sure if you realise, but chest and shoulders are part of the torso brother, who needs an anatomy check now? Keeps you on your toes eh? You're welcome I guess? I don't claim to know it all, I just know more than you, who knows very little about comics, that's all I'm saying. 
Yes because a 6-second google search makes me a stalker, literally I just googled you to see if you were imposing or a challenge, turns out, you're not, I don't believe you beat 6'6, 250 guys and until you prove so, I will continue to believe that's a lie,
Why not? It was a purely innocent thing, do you realise that I was just trying to have a friendly conversation with you? About why you think Doomsday wins? But now you've made things personal and attacked my art for no reason, and now you're depicting me as the bad guy because I bit back, that's immature bro, you should be ashamed of yourself, you're a 32-year-old man who is being out reasoned, outsmarted, outmatched and outgunned by a 16-year-old, you should just realise I'm not trying to attack you, I just want to talk it out, but you're not wanting that.
Don't you dare bring up the 'Your shoes' card, you don't know ANYTHING about me, my life, or all the shit I had to go through, you don't have the damn right to degrade my struggles, if you knew anything about me, you'd know that I don't step on people's toes, I carry them on my back and do anything I can to make sure they have a little bit easier life, or that little bit happier, you can't judge me based on an internet conversation, that's not fair and you know it, bullies,,? What do you mean bullies? You're a 32-year-old going at a 16-year-old, bashing his art, what do you mean I'm a bully? I've been bullied all my life, I signed a contract in year 9 to not fight back, because I was bullied so much, I got into fights every day, so basically I went through two years just taking it, I still am, these days the rules are stricter than when you were in school, but the bullies target me after school, they go in groups, sure I hold my ground most of the time, but they're all 6'0 or above and there is at least three of them, usually I get hurt more than they do, and if you knew anything about me, I would stand up to them when they target my friends, so I could get the bullies off THEIR back, and onto mine, because that's the person I am! I love my friends and I'll put myself in danger for other people, you're not a bully, you don't want this.
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Yes I saw that video, it's from Screw Attack, one of the worst VsBattles channels on YouTube, they lowballed Hulk to Planet Level and the Speed of Sound, when really Hulk has three Multiversal feats off the top of my mind and has moved as fast as Mjlornir, which transcends time itself, so Doomsday would stand NO CHANCE, coupled with the fact that Hulk constantly gets faster and he can heal from dust as shown in Maestros run, future imperfect makes it impossible for Doomsday to kill Hulk, while Hulk could easily kill the Universal - Multi-Universal beast, not to mention Hulk knows how to actually fight, he trained as a gladiator and under SHIELD while Doomsday's a mindless brute.
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lol man you must hate doomsday dude. LMAO Give the villain a break sheesh lol
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Nah brother, I just only look at feats and they determine who wins, and feats say Hulk does, doesn't mean I hate Doomsday, lol, I like Doomsday, but the fact is Hulk wins, easily.
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I know , right? Doomsday’s the Best!!
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YESSSSS!!!! lol He is my favorite villain from any comic book company. It sucks that he wasnt in Injustice 2 i would have had soooo much awesome gear for him.
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Yeah, why didn’t they add him in the new Injustice 2 game, it’s not fair at all. Imagine how awesome/badass he be in the Injustice 2 Version
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Ugh that would have been so awesome.
Check my 1st issue cover out.
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Funny how it'd be the complete opposite, I've already proven countless times that it would be so, Hulk is literally better than Doomsday in every way imaginable.
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No, you didn't. It is clear Doomsday has immunity to blunt force trauma after his fight with Superman and can't be killed that way again. Not to mention Doomsday is far more tragic a character
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Is that why Doomsday was killed by a group of Kryptonians again? You really have no evidence, that's why you persist with your delusions, Doomsday cannot adapt to physical force, because if he had that ability, he would have already, Doomsday is a more tragic character? He just was a meathead created by an alien scientist in prehistoric krypton, where he was killed over and over again, he only feels hate and anger.
While Doomsday is one dimensional and bland, The Hulk is a multi-dimensional character, with layering to his backstory, from childhood Bruce Banner was abused by his father and made to feel like a freak, he was forced to watch his father kill his mother right in front of him, he then killed his own father, growing up to become one of the most intelligent people in the world, he still is pushed around by the likes of Ross, and then is cursed with the Hulk transformation, Bruce Banner and the Hulk is a complex multi-dimensional character, with amazing stories, Doomsday is just a meat head.
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Easy; not the same Doomsday. Luthor has made plenty of clones, plus we saw Doomsday Rex leave with Gog, who is canonically the same Doomsday that killed Superman. And even then, I could amend what I said and say his adaptation was suited fora single source as opposed to multiple. I can use your argument against you when it comes to how strong Hulk is when WBH was outdone by older Hulks, despite "never being angrier"
Doomsday was killed over and over since he was a child. He went through 30 years of neverending pain and misery. Unlike Bruce who can actually find somewhere peaceful... for a while at least, Doomsday never learned anything related to love or compassion. He was raised on a planet that had him killed within seconds for the decade or so, that can be enough to screw you up. And you are (I assume) a mature adult. Doomsday started out as an infant and (assuming how long he survived) was biologically a child or teenager by the time he was dubbed "the ultimate". And to top it off, Brian Banner was an ass, but Butron was an idiot that did this because he wanted to see if he could.
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It was a clone of the ORIGINAL DOOMSDAY, which means it had the same immunities as the ORIGINAL Doomsday, it wasn't a completely segregated entity, it was a clone, with the same DNA, so your argument is seriously rendered invalid and untrue, which Hulk outdoes World Breaker Hulk? The same Hulk who easily bodied Arm'Cheddon who bodied Silver Surfer? Who is a Multi-Galactic - Universal being? And Hulk destroyed someone who was far superior to that, meaning Hulk had to be high Multi-Universal, he was also stated to be tearing up the Dark Dimension as world breaker, and the Dark Dimension is larger than the 616 universe.
All Doomsday knew was pain so he was used to it, nothing miserable about living a life you're used to, Bruce Banner had a source of love, his mother, he had something to lose when you're exposed to love and hate at the same time, the hate becomes worse, Bruce was told constantly he was a freak, Doomsday was just fighting everyday angrily, Bruce lost his mother, Doomsday didn't lose anyone he cared about, having your mother die in front of you is worse than you dying a thousand times, I would give my life an infinite times over if that meant my mother survived, so your logic is completely flawed. Brian Banner wasn't just an ass, he was in league with the Judeo-Christian devil, read the Immortal Hulk run, the number of people Bruce and the Hulk lost is depressing, having love then losing it is worse than never having it at all, believe me, I recently went through a break up and I'm feeling worse than how I felt before I started dating, that's an analogy to help your understanding.
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You realise that the DNA could've been taken at any time, including before Doomsday recovered. Thus not moot.
At yet, WBH was taken down by a man-made laser. IMMORTAL HULK was beaten by a man-made laser and kept restrained by UV lights. Doomsday beat Darkseid, who at the time can keep up with Pre-Crisis Kryptonians. Also, funny how you brought up Immortal Hulk, because we see that even Immortal/Devil Hulk can be drained of energy in Vol 2 - The Green Door. And with how Doomsday has shown he can adapt his opponent's weaknesses into his own powers (fire breath to fight J'onn), he could find a way to drain energy. If Creel can do it, so can Doomsday
Tell that to every starving child in Africa, people born into slavery or worse. Also, there is a difference between "used to it" and "driven completely insane". And you think to know both is worse than only knowing hate? Which one could live a peaceful life if given the chance?
My understanding is fine, but here's another analogy; imagine everyone you wanted to date not only said no, but flat out insulted you or even got physical. You would feel so alone and that no one would love you. Not saying that what you went through is bad, just that there can be and are worse things out there.
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Yes, that DNA could have been taken at any time, so any speculation is just that, speculation, or an assumption, so claiming that it was before Doomsday recovered is a mere assumption and is invalid, especially when there is nothing to suggest your claim true, you're resorting to low end outliers now when debating Hulk, instead of going at a consistent basis, that really outlines how desperate you are, the fact that you need to resort to low end consistency. The Doomsday > Darkseid thing is a clear outlier as Doomsday has never repeated something of that magnitude, and if he has? Certainly not consistently, Immortal and Devil Hulk are two vastly different characters, so I don't know why you brought that up. No, Doomsday cannot drain energy from the Hulk, because the Hulk's energy and radiation manipulation are two factors that Hulk is vastly superior in, Hulk can actually manipulate energy, not just gamma radiation, many Hulk writers ignore that fact.
Yes, starving children in Africa and people born into slavery aren't as emotionally and mentally damaged as someone who had a great life, but that was taken away from them and then they were forced into slavery or starvation after they knew what was good otherwise, I did not understand your next sentence at all, you might wanna work on your Lexicology, Hulk by destiny can never live a peaceful life, that has been made evident a numerous number of times.
Your understanding and comprehension is extremely fragile, you can't dispute that, rejection in dating you believe to be any kind of pain? Dude, it's something you can easily get over, you can still have kids without dating, you can create a friends with benefit relationship, but yeah, I think losing someone you love would be worse than having no one love you.
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They literally had a giant corpse at the time laying in the street. Are you really telling me Lex just decided not to take something that could kill his hate boner's target?
Again, Doomsday adapts and changes. He can develop the ability the same way he can undo an energy being, stun a time manipulator and can grab something intangible
The very point is that you can get better with help. Doomsday can never be helped.
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Again, the idea that he took the DNA from that time, is an assumption, we don't know that he didn't take it from any other time, besides, we don't know if Doomsday adapted during the instance when Lex took the DNA, so your whole claim is layered with assumptions, in fact, it reaks with assumptions.
None of those instances involve countering physical strength, he can't absorb Hulk of his gamma, because Hulk can easily take it back just as quickly if not quicker.
Has Hulk gotten better? Arguably, but nevertheless he has the same hurt, the same pain, the same... Rage... And the fact that you say Doomsday can't be helped is an example of you not knowing Doomsday, he once fought alongside Superman.
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Says the guy who can say Hulk can kill Doomsday
Because I wasn't talking about physical strength. And you just made an assumption that Hulk could take the power back
Doomsday literally lacks a brain and just kills. Even Doomslayer, a super intelligent Doomsday, had to restrain himself and was planning to destroy the planet to prevent Doomsday from causing more pain
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Anyone can say anything, what's your point kid? And yes, Hulk can kill him due to being hilariously physically superior.
Yes but the only attribute relevant here to defeating the Hulk is physical strength, something that Doomsday cannot capitalize on Xeno, sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Yes, he lacks a brain, therefore he cannot understand pain and suffering, by your logic only, if planet busting abilities is enough to kill Doomsday... Then he really is weaker than I thought he was... That's pathetic... Grey Hulk exerts twice that power, one of the weakest, if not the weakest Bruce Banner Hulk.
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I'm older than you. Also, you are making up bullshit since Doomsday has only been punched to death once, which is his whole point
Which he cannot do. Superman was stronger in his second fight and nothing was happening, if you ever bothered to read one Doomsday comic. Literally, when Hulk tries to take the gamma energy back a second time, he will be unable to do so
You really are a dumbass. Doomsday adapted away from the need for a brain. He used to have one... over the thirty or so years he had been dying and being reborn.
That's the thing. He already has adapted to such force! Name one time after Death of Superman where Doomsday was punched to death, you can't. Stop making excuses, kid. You are just a fanboy who just can't accept his character would lose. And it is pathetic that you are trying to one-up a character meant to be overpowered.
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Yes, you're older than me yet you miraculously act half my age, it's frankly incredible, don't mind the pun, Doomsday in cannon has AT LEAST been punched to death twice, Death Of Superman and I believe New Krypton were those two occasions.
That literally has no relevance as Superman is astronomically weaker than Hulk, of course your self centered ass wouldn't understand that, simply put, your head is so thoroughly inserting into your ass it miraculously comes back out of your mouth. Your idiocy defies physics itself. What would prevent Hulk from doing that? I would like to hear your ridiculous explanation, besides, it wouldn't matter even if he couldn't (Which he can) because the source of Hulk's strength comes from extra-dimensional energies
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It really means nothing to be labelled a dumbass when it is coming from you, a person who believes Superman is anywhere near the realm of Hulk, it appears you have yet to meet yourself with a self assessment, please end your public embarrassment. Now how would I know that he adapted to the point without the need for a brain? You continuously bring up new details of the character instead of saying your piece in one block of text, it's completely nonsensical, nothing less than idiotic, which is to be expected from your forever virgin ass of a brain.
NEW KRYPTON YOU MORON! And not only has he been killed via physical force, he has also been hurt by it too, if he became immune to physical force, he would have complete kinetic energy absorption, which he clearly doesn't have AS PHYSICAL FORCE HURTS HIM! For fucks sake Xenomaster, would it be so difficult for you to ONCE, just to ONCE, use the little brain you have? I understand that using your brain for you is like a average Joe building a time machine but PLEASE, make a consensus effort, because thus far? All you're accomplishing is making yourself look like a stubborn asshole who has the inability of producing intelligent thought... PATHETIC!
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And that would imply a third time because...? At worst you can say New Krypton had him adapt to multiple sources and therefore rendering your argument useless
And yet, Superman has shown to be a physical match for the hulk in the DC crossovers and has won at least one while the other was inconclusive. Not only that, but the whole "extra-dimensional" BS clearly has no real evidence of such a thing until maybe Immortal Hulk, and that is a pretty big jump to say Hulk was from Hell when he was clearly just a result of psychological trauma. It also says there that his transformation is triggered by adrenaline, which can be reduced by the poison Doomsday's bones secrete. Where the heck is the whole "extra-dimensional" thing even shown in the comics (not immortal hulk)
Now who's acting like a child? Especially when I already debunked this clear outlier from how out of nowhere it was and with little explanation of how he got there or even if it was the same Doomsday since, again, cloning is a thing and Lex has done crazier. The story wasn't even about Doomsday! Only a third of the writers for New Krypton even had anything to do with Doomsday, and it was with help on one issue from Reign of Doomsday, and even then it wasn't part of the main plot. And like before, it could just be from multiple sources. Clearly, you need to get your juice box and have a nap because you are getting cranky.
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It literally does not render it useless any any way, shape or form, if he can be killed by the same thing twice, of course he can three times, because if he could have adapted to it that way, he already would have.
"And yet, Superman has shown to be a physical match for the hulk in the DC crossovers" Yes, Professor Hulk, also, that was all vote based and very much so plot driven, so not a very viable source considering Hulk constantly outclasses the mere alien. The Extra dimensional guidebook outlined it years before Immortal Hulk and showcased that every time Hulk regenerated from anything, or came back from the dead, or even had an exponential rise in power. No, Hulk was the result of a multitude of situations, no single one, if you knew Hulk lore, you'd know that. His transformation is triggered by adrenaline, but once he transforms, he transforms, after that it's too late.
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Here we see Hulk regenerating tissue from no where.
You... You're acting like a child... You're the only one acting like a child... A moron calling people a dumbass... Nothing new or out of the ordinary... Clear outlier? You haven't debunked a single claim I made, the only thing you've written thus far is nonsensical jargon, so you haven't made any ground at all. I know Doomsday has been cloned, that's not the question, the question is when he cloned Doomsday, that's up in the air, so you can't assume it was any specific time, whatever number of writers connected to Doomsday holds no relevance in this discussion, it really doesn't, why do you feel the need to bring it up? Why doesn't anything you say hold any form of relevance? I'll have my juicebox and nap when I'm ready bitch.
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Again, at best it was a multiple source thing. At worst it was a weak-ass detail that means nothing as there are too many flaws with the statement, such as Doomsday just coming out of nowhere. It is shown that it was sent by General Lane, where did he get his hands on a Doomsday? Hel, "Superman/Batman: The Supergirl from Krypton" shows dozens of weakened Doomsdays made by Darkseid, so Doomsday could've been weakened. You do not have a strong hand!
And you continue to show you don't read a damn thing. You were the one who brought up the crossovers so many years ago.
While that book states that, we see nothing to indicate that in the canon. The Marvel wiki says Ultron's speed is like 700mph, yet I also read how in ANAD Ultron he can fly faster than light as he travelled across the galaxy in months. Try a primary source.
I was saying the Hulk condition was caused by trauma; his mental stability resulted in a stable transformation along with the brain power. And even then, I've shown you countless times that Hulk can be forcibly transformed back, and that whoever that was is clearly a nobody that is not even close to Doomsday.
I'm not the one throwing a temper tantrum like some angry toddler who can't get McDonalds when he wants it
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"Again, at best it was a multiple source thing."
Yes Xeno, because I'm referencing three different instances of Doomsday being pummeled to death.
"At worst it was a weak-ass detail that means nothing as there are too many flaws with the statement,"
None of which you were able to identify, three instances of being pummeled still holds, you cannot disprove my statements and you can't prove that Doomsday can't be killed again by physical force.
"Such as Doomsday just coming out of nowhere. It is shown that it was sent by General Lane, where did he get his hands on a Doomsday? Hel, "Superman/Batman: The Supergirl from Krypton" shows dozens of weakened Doomsdays made by Darkseid"
Doomsday came out of no where because he revived and was captured, that's the most probable answer, and science tends to gravitate to the most plausible answer, I think you meant to write hell* and pertaining to the Superman/Batman thing? Clones of Doomsday aren't Doomsday, rendering your argument irrelevant.
"so Doomsday could've been weakened. You do not have a strong hand!"
That argument doesn't work as you used the example of clones, which were never stated to be as powerful as the original Doomsday, as shown when Superman decimated them, while the original Doomsday dominates Superman, and is much stronger the last time we saw him, in Rebirth, than the clones were.
"And you continue to show you don't read a damn thing."
You're self projecting again Xeno, it's clear you haven't read a single thing I've written nor have you made a single valid point, you still haven't proven Doomsday is even consistently galaxy level, how long have you had to prep yourself?
"You were the one who brought up the crossovers so many years ago."
Xeno, what are you on about? You brought up the crossovers, I was quick to dispel them
"While that book states that, we see nothing to indicate that in the canon."
Which point is this pertaining to?
"The Marvel wiki says Ultron's speed is like 700mph, yet I also read how in ANAD Ultron he can fly faster than light as he travelled across the galaxy in months"
Yes, the Marvel wikis are extremely flawed and heavily inaccurate, they are only 'satisfactory' when it comes to the history of these characters, however, not their power levels.
"Try a primary source."
Everything I've brought up is from the comics, the ONLY primary source, whilst you're bringing up Marvel wikis.
"I was saying the Hulk condition was caused by trauma; his mental stability resulted in a stable transformation along with the brain power."
What condition? The Hulk isn't a condition, it's an entity, you're mixing and blending things together that are meant to stand alone, his transformation wasn't a result of the trauma, his trauma was the effect creating the entity, the gamma radiation created the trauma.
"And even then, I've shown you countless times that Hulk can be forcibly transformed back"
Except you've haven't, you've shown me one, which is considered an outlier, unless you provide me with at least 10 instances that he can be forcibly transformed back, then it's an outlier or PIS, that's fair considering I gave you 20 feats proving Hulk is Multiversal on a consistent basis.
"and that whoever that was is clearly a nobody that is not even close to Doomsday"
Congratulations on another idiotic claim, the only one who did that was Sentry, because he CONVINCED Hulk to turn to Banner, Hulk did that willingly, Doomsday wouldn't work the same way, not to mention Sentry is VASTLY stronger than Doomsday due to what he did to Ares and Molecule Man.
"I'm not the one throwing a temper tantrum like some angry toddler who can't get McDonalds when he wants it"
You were the one who initiated the insults resulting to petty shots, you're the inept one and a half year old who hasn't had his fruit salad
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Oh, you're back? I long since thrashed you and have long since grown bored. Have fun with your painful delusions
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Refusal to continue the debate? Concession accepted.
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Showing immaturity again? Seriously, this is getting old. You are boring me
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Showing immaturity? Accepting a victory in your eyes is immature? You continue to shock me Xeno, there is no immaturity present, I'm accepting your concession, end of story.
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Taking "I was done with this for a while and have proven you wrong" as "you win" is immature
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I never stated I was done with this, I never conceded, I merely had personal, academic and mental issues I had to conquer, I'm still very busy, and I will be until November, but do you know what I've been doing these past months Xeno? I've been through mental break down after mental break down, I'm sorry if I wasn't able to answer you in your given time, people have lives, that doesn't make me immature, that makes me human.
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Yeah, you did. And the fact you are continuing this debate, despite no one caring, shows how immature you are. Grow up
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If I made a statement then PROVE IT, that simple, do you understand the basic rules of debating? If you didn't care you wouldn't be replying, also immaturity still isn't a factor here, I'm grown, it seems you're the only one with a lapse of maturity... Concede.
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