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Heh heh, well, this picca idea popped into my head and I decided to go for it even though I've never really drawn a mech before, let alone colored one. It was an... educational experience... There are a couple of technical concerns that I'll now lament, for one, Starscream is a huge mech and so the water drops should be much smaller--indistingishable, really. But I wanted freaking water drops so I said, "screw it. I'll just make them bigger than they really are supposed to be." So, you must suspend disbelief a little here."What is this all about?" you may be wondering. Well, I was thinking about Transformers and how they appear to have very human attributes despite their mechanical bodies and I thought it a cruel, unusual thing on the behalf of their creators to give them the capability of feeling emotional hurt. I'm not very knowledgable about Cybertronian history, so it could very well be that they developed them entirely on their own, but I still find it upsetting, the idea of a living soul locked away in a cage of metal. Kind of make you wonder if there weren't a few who just couldn't take it all and released their sparks onto oblivion. From what I can tell, most of the 'bots seem just fine with it, but what if one started to feel differently, confined in such a cold, hard shell? I'm sure none of the others would understand...
Well, I picked out Starscream for this, one, because he's my fav, and two, because it seems like he's just the angstiest transformer of them all. It's the Armada version of him because I'm more well versed with that having no access to G1. *ducks thrown objects* I know nobody likes it and everyone thinks it's stupid and a herasy, but c'mon! That's what makes it fun to watch!
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X-METAL-CAT [2006-04-04 14:21:49 +0000 UTC]
True...robots don't cry. I agree with choosing the "Armada" Starscream for this one; he was a confused soul looking for a purpose other than fighting. There was some good in that guy...in my opinion.
Great work, and the rain drops look cool, too.
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Jefrma [2006-02-10 10:39:28 +0000 UTC]
more than meets the eye! ThatΒ΄s all I have to say about this Great work
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JuJu-Beezy [2006-02-03 02:46:13 +0000 UTC]
I think it's a great idea. After all if you watched the Transformers Armada series you'd see that he developes a relationship with the human kids and sort of has feelings for Alexis so to me this pic makes perfect sense. Starsream is a very complex character. He's my second favorite Transformer. # 1 being Sideways I loved his attitude. . This pic is definately getting fav'd!
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Starath [2006-01-25 19:52:13 +0000 UTC]
Aaaaww this is so sad. But beautiful nonetheless. I agree with your choosing Armada Screamer. That poor guy had loads of angst. I also agree with your thoughts on 'bots needing to cry. Otherwise they can only show frustration and anger with no soul-healing way to let the pain out. In my TF world (I am part of the Beast Wars generation, hee) my character is the only bot who can cry, and I've also written a series about me meeting Depth Charge, and he becomes human for awhile, and he cries then too (but he doesn't understand and thinks he's 'leaking', lol). It helps heal him before he goes to his final battle with his mortal enemy, Rampage. I myself would have a hard time living if not for the human ability to cry.
I like how you did his optics, cuz they really are like "windows to the soul", as that old saying goes. And I like the cutaway top and bottom so we can focus on his face. It almost looks like he's ashamed that he's crying. You did a very nice job, methinks this is going in my favs.
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The-Devi-stator [2005-12-30 19:40:05 +0000 UTC]
I don't think Transformers think of their bodies as "cages of cold metal", personally - I think their bodies feel as natural to them as ours do to us.
As for the pic itself, I think it's positive well-done - I really like how you made the drops of water look like, well, water.
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Jetscream [2005-12-30 16:48:10 +0000 UTC]
This is awesomely AWESOME!!!!
How long it took to draw this picture? But I am too ultimate Transformers FAN!! Starscream is THE KING!!!!
This is absolutely Faved!!!
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Schmedderling [2005-12-27 05:41:23 +0000 UTC]
Well, you just made one fangirl very happy. *hugs Screamer*
And I won't throw any objects either. I haven't seen G1, but even then, I think I'd still like Armada Screamer the best, you can't help but feel sorry for him.
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AeonAlliance [2005-08-16 23:56:28 +0000 UTC]
*screams* STARSCREAM IS LIKE MY MOST FAVORITE TRANSFORMER.....he was ll man and stuff then he was still kinda mean but he was fightin witht he autobots then they went and killed him and resurected him as a baddie again...grrrrr i didnt like that but i still love him
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NebulousFrog [2005-08-04 04:19:23 +0000 UTC]
Rah~! Why have I never seen this before? Its wonderful. ^__^ I like Armada the best too... we must ban togeth-ah! *Has large objects chucked at head* Ok, ok, perhaps not. XD
Oh a serious note though, I really love the emotion you've captured behind this. Metal is really hard to color(only tried it once; and I took the lame way out and cel-shaded it XD) but you did a good job.
Dunno about them feeling isolated in their own metal bodies though... I just figure thats the way they were created, so they never really question it, y'know? The idea of a metal body might seem horrible to a human, but I almost think that to a Transformer, the idea of being trapped in a soft, unprotected body like a human's would make them feel exceedly vulnerable and insecure... but I'm getting majorly off-topic. XD;
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Northstar1982 [2004-11-08 20:28:12 +0000 UTC]
ONce again I have to thank Plutosenshi for this one.. Man you're good... *mega jealous* Yeah Starskie's one of my favs from G1 too. *huggles him* I have slightly diffrent interpretations but hey that's what fandom's all about right? Your art rocks and I shall now thumb through the rest of your gallery.
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Smidgeroo [2004-04-15 19:22:43 +0000 UTC]
It really makes one wonder... what could drive him to cry... *Snivels and weeps*
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bloodraven77 [2004-03-03 20:04:39 +0000 UTC]
Wow I hate to admit this but what a cool pic of Starscream normally I hate this character but after reading your remarks on him it has certainly made me think twice about this char...
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KinjouTen [2004-01-23 06:07:47 +0000 UTC]
At the risk of sounding incredibly geeky, thank you for A) remembering what
"Transformers" was originally about (the characters) and B)Making me think about Starscream in a whole new light, as he's usually my least favorite character.
This is gorgeous. I fave you!!
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cyberia23 [2004-01-17 18:30:54 +0000 UTC]
Hehe! Thats really cool, great coloring. You captured the Transformers look very nicely.
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artemis-prime [2004-01-11 02:08:32 +0000 UTC]
Slag the cartoon...COMIC ROCKS!!! *worships Furman.*
Seriously, I...I am really lost for words...as a Starscream fanatic myself...I just find this one jaw-dropping beautiful, and for me to say that about Armada (other than the cover of #3 of the comic...too bad Furman wasn't writing then...) is something big! ^_^
Wonderful job! ^_^
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Maxiewolf [2004-01-09 14:22:39 +0000 UTC]
Very Very Good. Dont watch much armada But I love the colouring and crisplines there.
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vvoltaire [2004-01-03 20:30:15 +0000 UTC]
Wow. I just stared at this picture for several minutes, trying to take it all in. The waterspots look great to me. I've seen the droplets bead together on the hood of a car, so it takes after that effect. I love the amount of emotion you could put into what's essentially a machine. The eyes glow nicely, and are a great contrast to the flat planes of the face and hands.
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horsetechie [2003-12-28 19:59:04 +0000 UTC]
Oo... saw this on another's fav list, and I had to look.
Not exactly a 'rabid Screamer fangrrl', but I really do like the way that Armada has portrayed this Starscream. He's not at all like G! SS, and is more like Thundercracker here (if not BW Dinobot). But I still like what they did. Your own thoughts are interesting to think about too.
As for the water spots, I think it works. If you look at a car's hood after a rain storm, the water spots can be about that size too. Depends on how good the wax job is too!
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SkinsT [2003-12-27 11:16:36 +0000 UTC]
Very very beautiful work here. Truly touching!
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nyaar [2003-12-26 11:40:55 +0000 UTC]
Starscream has always rulez.... since the first series, a long long time ago *___*
I like your draw.... I think is very moving....
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naphtali [2003-12-25 21:15:38 +0000 UTC]
Wow, I really, really like this pic! It' beautifully done. Starscream is a a great character and a good canidate for this pic, I think. Naturally this reminds me of a pic I've been meaning to draw...*sigh* Anywho, fantastic job.
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hibbary In reply to naphtali [2003-12-25 23:47:23 +0000 UTC]
ooooooooo!!!! What is this picture? I wanna see when you done!
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naphtali In reply to hibbary [2003-12-26 17:04:56 +0000 UTC]
It's not done yet, but it is on my infamous list of things to do. Heheheh.... I'll let you know when it's posted.
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SerpentineSnape In reply to ??? [2003-12-15 11:47:58 +0000 UTC]
awesome...i think it's great!
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julianwilbury In reply to ??? [2003-12-13 02:26:39 +0000 UTC]
*reads the description and jaw drops*
I've never seen Transformers or anything, but the whole second paragraph is like, exactly what I'm writing about.
*wonders what are all of these people doing in her head...*
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hibbary In reply to julianwilbury [2003-12-14 19:58:47 +0000 UTC]
*ahem* let me try this again...... *tries to remember* I do believe that first I made a daring escape from your head *runs away* and then I babbled some junk about robots, so here it goes-- I kind of figured the idea of the inorganic having organic sentiments was something of a popular one these days. Ever since the Matrix that very idea has been exploited in many fandoms. I tend to approach it more from a sociological or perhaps anthropological perspective, however, rather than simply riding the angsty robot wave, so I hope I have some original ideas at least. (I'm not imlying that you don't... have original ideas, i mean) What are you writing? a paper? a story? I wanna seeeeeeee.
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julianwilbury In reply to hibbary [2003-12-15 02:34:07 +0000 UTC]
Well, I get to try again. XP
Ackf, I know what you're talking about when it comes to the anthromorphization thing. In my journal I had a whole lament on "Pinocchio Syndrome", just one of the sterotypes usually perputrated in movies. Gah, I blame the Robin Williams and the Sixth Sense kid. :b
I'm writing a novel. It's nothing new, I've been writing novels since elementary school. Never finished any of them, but now that I have support in the form of my best friend/beta-reader (or at least he tries to be a beta reader), Lycanthrope, I'm hoping to get this done. And thanks to the computer I'm able to write it non-linar-ly, that is, not from beginning to end. I just have to fight with my lack of conentration. *snorts* Anyway, they're locked up in my LiveJournal, but I can send you an email with links to the drafts I wrote since they're just uploaded to a private section of my webspace. But they haven't been beta-read or anything yet, just to make that clear. There's only two or three people who have actually made the effor to read the darn things. :\
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hibbary In reply to julianwilbury [2003-12-17 17:10:44 +0000 UTC]
oh yes, pinocchio syndrome... nothing like popular culture to spoil a good idea I'm sure it was interesting and original when it first came up, probably in some B rated sci fi back in the 60s. C'mon you hollywoood guys! It's more complicated than your watered down, stereotypical, baby food bullshit!!!!! But you know the average populace is dumb as hell. The kind of people who watch such things and thing they are amazing ideas are the kind of people who pushed spongbob squarepants to the number one cableshow slot. *lol*
I hear ya on that concentration thing. Way back a friend of mine asked me to write a Harry Potter fanfic for her site and I relented. I've got like..... 14 chapters and got stuck. For all those hours of work nothing's going to come of it. I dunno if you want me reading your story I'm hideously picky about literature. Hell, I don't even like a lot the stuff that gets published. But if you are willing, I'd like to take a look.
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julianwilbury In reply to hibbary [2004-01-01 03:12:27 +0000 UTC]
*chuckles* Just because it's published, doesn't mean it's good. I've said before, I don't even like most sci fi and fantasy. Too many Bambi-horses and scantily-clad warrior women for me. *g* Heck, professional fantasy art is the same way. Someone was compalining about it and said something like "the artists seemed to pour so much attention to the woman's boob they didn't even care the gryphon's wings was coming out of it's belly." *falls over laughing*
My story is a mess, frankly, so maybe it's best for now I keep it between friends I know right now. Maybe someday if I'm desperate for scathing feedback I'd turn to you (I'm being totally serious, here, too). But for now, I'm busy trying to stitch the peices into something resembling a straightforward narrative and not just a collection of story scenes. *sighs*
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hibbary In reply to julianwilbury [2004-01-01 03:57:04 +0000 UTC]
O.o;;;; I doubt it would be SCATHING. Perhaps... well, hell, I can't even say it would be constructive... I'm not a literature wiz, but I have an above average understanding of grammar ^_^;;; .. and... uh.. I always get As in english. Hee hee, yeh, a lot of artists are awfully good at breasts and nothing else. Pulling off a long term writing project is incredibly hard. And I think, more than art, getting noticed in the world of literature is largly a part of being in the right place at the right time. Well, good luck, anyhow ^_^
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julianwilbury In reply to hibbary [2003-12-15 02:11:23 +0000 UTC]
Aaaaaah, there's a whole wave? *blinks* That's what happens when you don't watch the media that much. *defends herself from the onslaught of reality shows and movies with cartoon characters made 3D* Actually, I've heard some word of it, I lamented what is called the "Pinoccio syndrome" and my fears that my stories may dabble into it on my LJ.
I've been writing novels since elementary school of assorted subjects, my current project being a bit of a fantasy/sci fi jaunt. Well, actually I've never read much fantasy outside of Harry Potter or much sci fi outside of the Hitchhiker's books, they've never really appealed to me. :b I'm picky, so I'm trying to write about what intrests me. Anyway, my writings are all locked up in my LiveJournal, but you can drop me an email if you want to see. My best friend/beta reader Lycanthrope hasn't gotten to editing what I have finished, though, so it's mostly pretty rough. But I'm always happy to have more feedback.
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Astrocat [2003-12-11 11:55:45 +0000 UTC]
Stop killing him damn you all!
BTW in Beastwars they said that Starscream was indestructable spark... does this mean he gets reincarnated???
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vvoltaire In reply to Astrocat [2004-01-03 21:03:20 +0000 UTC]
Okay, let's see what I remember of Transformers trivia...
Pay attention. There will be a quiz on this later.
Sparks are like the soul of the Transformer. Without them they'd be, at best, an artificial intelligence. When a Transformer dies, its spark either dissipates or goes off to join the Matrix, depending on whom you ask.
In the movie, when Starscream was more-or-less vaporized, his spark neither dissipated nor joined the Matrix. Instead he hung around, plotted his revenge, and whatnot. He possessed a couple of cons (Cyclonus and Scourge, I think). He was blasted out of the first one by Galvatron. He used the second one to help Unicron (boo, hiss) in exchange for a new body. He got the new body, but was blasted into space and was left drifting for an indeterminate amount of time. I don't know how long, but it was long enough for him to lose the body and travel through time to end up in the BW era. There, as you know, he possessed yet another con, and was eventually blasted out of Waspy and set to drift through space yet again.
In short: if you can die twice, be forced out of 3 other bodies, drift around the universe for a really really long time, travel through time, and *still* be around to annoy people, you have an immortal spark.
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hibbary In reply to Astrocat [2003-12-11 13:12:18 +0000 UTC]
gak! I haff no idear. I remember that ep. only barely. That would be really strange, though, because the Beast Wars were supposed to have taken place on prehistoric earth. They like..... mysteriously time traveled there, and then again, back to Cybertron way into the future. And that would mean that either Starscream's spark was out and about and just happened to go back to the same place and same point in time, or he had hitched a ride.
Anywho, an indestructable spark, eh Astro? *picks brain* I must say that that's really wierd. I wonder why they would decide such a thing? And why it would be so? I'll have to watch it again sometime.
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Astrocat In reply to hibbary [2003-12-11 13:29:44 +0000 UTC]
urrmm...I think it was when they brought in Rampage or what every it was called, im sure they said somewhere during the recap of his creation about starcream's indestructable spark. Now im gonna have to watch the ep too! Would be funny if he was indestructable and kept coming back as *dumdumdahh* starscream, no wonder he would get depressed! *L*
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hibbary In reply to Astrocat [2003-12-11 21:57:43 +0000 UTC]
mmmm, starcream..... Heh heh, anywho, I dun recall. But yeah, that would explain his disorder He'd be like all those old vampires who start to go crazy because they've lived too long. I gots my friend the first BW dvd because she expressed a desire to watch the series again. I'll keep a look out for the one with that ep. on it sos I can see what's what. And now I shall make a cloudman eat a bomb.
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Astrocat In reply to hibbary [2003-12-12 10:49:39 +0000 UTC]
eeugh! Gross but amusing
I think its towards the end of the second series or in the third series, i know I've got it recorded somewhere...
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neo-dragon [2003-12-11 09:00:11 +0000 UTC]
Wow! That's really good! The coloring is great and the waterdrops look so real! Excellent! If you -had- to draw an Armada character at least it was Starscream. j/k. Awesome work!
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Orena [2003-12-11 01:32:22 +0000 UTC]
So much feeling, I love it.
Oh and about how you said you can't imagine how bad it must be to have a soul if you were a robot, sort of reminds me of that scene in the 3rd Matrix movie when Smith said he didn't understand how Humans can bare to live in bodies made of stinking rotting flesh. Maybe they see us as horrible. Just a thought.
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hibbary In reply to Orena [2003-12-11 01:45:05 +0000 UTC]
I've not yet seen. After the first two movies I don't think I really could stomache the third. Anywho, most probably they do (see us as horrible, I mean. Very fragile at least). I mean, many a person has considered the body to be a cage, an imperfect physical state to overcome, but I meant to say mostly that I think for a species created by the organic, with a soul and state of consiousness that could possibly be organic in nature would feel particularly melancholy and out-of-place in a robotic form. Kind of like how animals robbed of sensation go into a state of catatonia.
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Unnoted [2003-12-10 12:08:31 +0000 UTC]
I love it! God I wish I could draw Transformers. Starscream is my favourite too, I find him cute in a meloncholy kinda way.
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hibbary [2003-12-08 23:38:29 +0000 UTC]
;_; well, now he's dead... again... so I guess his spark is finally free. *bawls*
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Unnoted In reply to hibbary [2003-12-11 01:03:52 +0000 UTC]
I always end up liking the ones that are going to die. For one Dinobot from beast wars was my fav. and what did they do? kill him... twice! ;-;
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hibbary In reply to Unnoted [2003-12-11 01:10:54 +0000 UTC]
heh. well, he kind of died in the old timey one. Yesh!!! that happens to EVERY one of my fav chars too!!!! They ALL die!!!!! *spazzes* why why!?!? What cosmic force ordains that I shall like best those destined to die!? We are in the same harrible boat, looks like
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Unnoted In reply to hibbary [2003-12-11 07:43:04 +0000 UTC]
well... I'm gona give Starscream a hug - Starscream, gets glared at-
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Unnoted In reply to hibbary [2003-12-11 01:03:50 +0000 UTC]
I always end up liking the ones that are going to die. For one Dinobot from beast wars was my fav. and what did they do? kill him... twice! ;-;
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ebba [2003-12-08 14:46:55 +0000 UTC]
love the idea of this..and starscream is a fav of mine ^^
love the colouring and water too, great work
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