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hkonako In reply to Adalack [2016-12-28 21:54:35 +0000 UTC]

They are Dorothy, Mulan and Red, respectively. After the Ruby Slippers episode, a considerable part of the fandom felt bad for Mulan, for she ended up alone again. So I thought it wouldn't hurt to make her part of this relationship.

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Adalack In reply to hkonako [2016-12-31 02:10:29 +0000 UTC]

I respectfully disagree about Mulan being alone, I think she had a good amount of friends; here you depict her enjoying the company of two of her best buddies, and I thank you for that. She's also close friends with Merida (as well as her sparring partner and teacher in fencing- and I mean sword-fighting, not selling stolen property- which would be both weird and wrong- but not outside the possibility of things that happen in that show: Elsa of Arendelle engaged in an episode of, well, shoplifting, basically- HORRID conduct! She engaged in breaking and entering, really.), and is often seen hanging out with her, as well as buddies with another young woman in the show.
She's got a pretty good-size circle of friends, here you depict her with two of them.
Where'd you find out about the fans being upset that Mulan seemed friendless post Ruby Slippers, Hkanko? I want to understand where you're coming from here- *all* about it, basically (Where you're coming from, that is), could you help me in that venture?
If you fear no humiliation, spare nothing in explaining your perspective, Ma'am. (I'm being both polite and formal here- not sure of your real name and I'd never use it in public without you saying I could, even then I'd be reluctant to do so, out of respect for you.)
I will not willingly humiliate you, but accidents do happen with us humans, so I'm being extra careful here.
I'm glad you have her hanging out with her friends, make no mistake; what you have here between Mulan and her friends reads to me, if these are the same personalities of the characters as shown in the show, then this is celibate love between them- totally chaste, and the most beautiful sort they're capable of; of so I see it as.
Think the kind of caring that goes on clearly behind the scenes between Emma Swan and Neal Nolan: sibling caring... she probably babysits him from time to time, reading to him and things like that, making sure he eats well-enough, has clean pants and is comfortable along with enough mental stimulation; he likely sees her as a playmate, an adult playmate, but in a sibling and therefore usually chaste way- and here it's total.
I thank you from the bottom of my heart for this picture that *looks* just like total friendship between these three ladies; and you *did* make them gorgeous here, so kudos on that.
Sincerely your fan, and always eager to learn more about you, if you're willing to share;
Adalack.

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hkonako In reply to Adalack [2016-12-31 02:28:27 +0000 UTC]

Oh, no, I meant "romantic love" alone. When the episode The Bear King aired, most of the fans that knew about the gay couple being introduced immediately concluded that it would be Mulan and Red. And it made perfect sense. Red was feeling ~generally~ alone and Mulan had a horrible case of a broken heart, after her failed attempt to confess her romantic love to Aurora. 
And then when Ruby Slippers aired and Dorothy came along to be Red's True Love, Mulan was left there, again. The fandom worries about her broken heart. Is she cured? Does she feel better now? Is she jealous of Ruby for finding her love, when Mulan herself was too scared and made a mistake in waiting to confess her true feeling the last time?
And here I wanted them - Dorothy and Ruby - to comfort Mulan, to make her feel less lonely. Maybe in a poly amorous relationship, maybe just three friends. Whatever Mulan desires. 

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Adalack In reply to hkonako [2017-07-09 12:24:29 +0000 UTC]

Was Mulan really in love with Aurora? I saw those episodes too, and she seemed to me to be in love with Philip, who was himself in love with Aurora- or that's the sense that I got at least. Then again, I'm neither Kitsis nor Horrowitz, so I don't have ultimate say on anything OUAT besides my own fan-made stories, as well as (if and when) I manage to get their permission in a contract to write a novel (or more) into that series, but that's iff and when, that is!
I too enjoyed Ruby Slippers, but for the reason that it challenged me to be better.
So far as Mulan's case of a "broken heart", I'd say she recovered, or is at least surviving, and while I agree that she'd deserve to have someone to care about, this series is far from strictly about romantic love, at least from the themes; a good percentile of it features sibling or parental compassion in it.
I'm not sure about the fandom, or about your source-material in that regard, nor do I know anything about that, but thank you for the details; however, now you've made me curious as to your sources, so I wonder where you're getting your data. This is far from any kind of attack, rather it's mere curiosity.
I'm far from against them comforting Mulan in this, believe me; looks to me as if three friends, but what do you see here? I might take up writing a story based on this, but that's up to you, and also up to my ability and schedule, you understand... and yes, in another regard, I am working on an "evil red" story, believe me!
I think you'd like the idea of a "werewolves anon" group for Ruby to get some help in, what do you think of that concept in an OUAT fanfic?

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hkonako In reply to Adalack [2017-07-09 13:14:17 +0000 UTC]

Oh, yes. I believe Mulan's love for Aurora was so veiled and secretive because it was A&E's attempt to test the waters and see how the public would react to a same-sex couple. Unfortunately, it was so subtle, only those starving for LGBT stories managed to catch it. Good thing we were presented with Ruby and Dorothy some years later.
And I think Mulan's little quest with Ruby helped her situation a bit, but it's still sad that she didn't get her happy ending. The fandom surely hoped she would.
Oh, like a counseling group for Ruby? That's great! That's an interesting idea. Ruby is seriously in need of a community to feel at home in. I would definitely read something like that.

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Adalack In reply to hkonako [2017-11-01 23:02:03 +0000 UTC]

While I literally cannot agree more with you that Mulan and Aurora cared deeply about eachother (which I'm totally convinced they did) (and I said that I can't agree *more* with you because I am already maxed out in that regard- I'm "won over" as it were about that little detail), if you watch the Mulan/Philip/Aurora episodes, I strongly believe they show Mulan being deeply fond of *Philip* in *That* manner, but caring about Aurora as a buddy.
As far as the "Werewolves Anon" group, that you can read about in my story "Baffling Mystery" (I *believe* that's the one, anyways), by and large, just google or search-engine "Werewolves Anon OUAT Fanfic" and it should refer you to that kind of story... I don't care if others use my idea in that regard... not in the least! I'd be honored in fact.
I'm actually happy it was that subtle, and I also think it'd be accurate too; think about it, Mulan's from perhaps, and good odds of this too, an upper-class Imperial-Era Chinese family- due to the style of house she lives in (just guessing), and in the story there's a draft, to save her daddy's life, she disguises herself as a dude, and goes in his stead. Somewhere along the way she saves the life of the Emperor of her country from an enemy attack that would've assassinated him, or held him hostage and then, in all likelihood, killed him once the ransom had been paid and they had no longer any reason to keep him alive to use as a bargining chip to get money out of; so she ends up her country's national heroine. In OUAT, she's kind of a "girl knight" or dame, and starts out hunting a monster that's terrorizing the countryside. Direct result: if she "came out of the closet", what'd likely happen, historically speaking? She'd be killed in all likelihood for having those desires towards other women (or one other woman- I'm sorry, but I do not understand all that much about same-sex attraction; nor does anyone in this life seem to, anyways; I mean how it happens and why. I'm just referring to how historical societies were likely to perceive such desires and what they were liable to do to those with them.
I mean no offense in any way to you in this regard, but I do disagree with you about Mulan's sexuality- and also, in such places and times, it really didn't matter at all what her orientation was; in a place like that, she'd be *told* to marry said man, and if she doesn't want to: tough luck, Mulan, it's what's going to happen!
Or that's what they'd say to her, anyways.
Regarding her act of saving His Majesty's life, she'd probably wind up a noblewoman as payment for that, too; perhaps that's the link between the movie and OUAT, as far as OUAT's timeline, anyways.
What do you think regarding Mulan and my statements, Miss? Disagree? Agree? No idea? Any and all is perfectly okay with me- I just want your opinion in this regard.
And also, *why* do you think what you think? I want to get inside your head in this regard.
I actually found the Dorothy/Ruby thing partly useful to me, but that's from the absolute polar opposite side of the fence from your point of view; and I think it served partly to aid me in taming my own temptations in that regard; and is useful, especially if I see such persons as human beings, which is why it'd help me (I actually *want* to be gentle; not always successful, mind you, but I fully intend to keep on trying) to amend my attitudes, or so I *think*, anyways.
I'm by and large, and this is *my* views, mind you, not necessarily at all what's right, not by a long shot, diametrically opposed to any same-sex couple at all really, but that's more a gut reaction, and what I want is to see the *people* as just that: People! Hence, sometimes, it serves me well to run across a story wherein there's such a "couple" in it, especially if they're shown as human beings, with all the assorted faults therein as well- which is why I liked the ideas OUAT's writers had in this regard... does that make sense to you? If not, then consider this: I want to control myself and to treat people like that better than I'm prone to treating them; hence: it's useful to me if it aids me in any way to do that.
That said, I do wonder how they concluded that Dorothy was attracted to other females that way... and let me tell you, I have, rightly so, been reminded that *I* mustn't mistreat anyone like that in any way; of which that statement I totally agree with, though I'm prone to acting up by emotionally mistreating such people... do you see why I think this kind of situation would be useful to me? I think it'll aid me in seeing the *person* behind the *deed* and distinguishing between the two. Disagree with me on that principal or not that *is* my goal and view therein.
You might actually enjoy reading the story that has that touch, Miss... I await your comments/reviews on it in whatever method/site you choose that you're able to reply to it in; as you seem to like the concept of Ruby attending a therapy group that operates by the "12 step program", but to aid werewolves to control themselves... I gave you the name of it; I *think* in this; lets see your thoughts.
Oh, and sorry for the delay in replying, been busy getting into Porter and Chester for schooling, as well as coping with some personal problems I've had.
Sincerely one of your hopefully many fans and your fellow OUAT fan, well, one of them to be accurate;
Adalack.

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