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This look was inspired by the lovely Ale aka QueenB makeup, May she rest in paradise!Follow me on Instagram: Jessieblush
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Luxurychoccie [2012-08-22 21:53:30 +0000 UTC]
Lovely colours :3 The eyebrows are a little strange but then again so is pink hair XD Everything comes together well ^^
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Cherieosaurus [2012-08-22 21:15:27 +0000 UTC]
It's totally Jem and the Holograms. I dig it.
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DearStormer In reply to Cherieosaurus [2012-08-23 04:59:51 +0000 UTC]
I thought the same when I saw it! Very JEM!!!! Truly outrageous!
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AMGHoshi [2012-08-22 21:02:12 +0000 UTC]
I like so much your make up. The Pink color and blue it's perfect.
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65Degrees [2012-08-22 20:24:25 +0000 UTC]
What's up with her eye brows? They look like cartoons
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ChocolateB [2012-08-22 20:04:15 +0000 UTC]
Really love the make-up! I think you are pretty talented.
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sonamy-forever In reply to ??? [2012-08-22 18:38:30 +0000 UTC]
Perfection in person...
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JZino In reply to BearNecesities [2012-08-22 19:21:26 +0000 UTC]
Is that actually a troll in the daylight?
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VicariouSoul In reply to ??? [2012-08-22 18:10:11 +0000 UTC]
For being Body Art is one thing, but to wear that much make-up on a regular day or to go out somewhere is too much. It's very artificial and doll looking. It looks like the woman here if you put a lighter a half-inch away from her face would melt like a candle's wax. Other than that it's a beautiful picture, granted it's for the sake of Art only.
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LeechKeeper In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 17:25:19 +0000 UTC]
I wear makeup like this all the time. And who are you to tell people how to dress?
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VicariouSoul In reply to LeechKeeper [2012-08-23 17:54:05 +0000 UTC]
I didn't know make-up was clothing. I'm not telling people how to dress. This isn't a fashion show here or about the clothing she wears! It's about the make-up on her face that on a daily basis I see it publicly I don't really like it BUT if it's Body Art, okay, that's one thing and I acknowledge the beauty of it because [it is] art. I never said this women was not good looking, but if she didn't have all the make-up, to just be herself, I think she'd be prettier. This piece is about cosmetics and I'm allowed to add two opinions 1. that I like it because it's Body Art but 2. I wouldn't really like it within public view. Some things are best left in the art world, and often times they're not.
How much clearer can I be.
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LeechKeeper In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-24 16:32:51 +0000 UTC]
No one cares what you like or dislike.
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VicariouSoul In reply to LeechKeeper [2012-08-24 19:23:56 +0000 UTC]
It's not just me. Have a good day.
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ShesABromide In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 06:59:09 +0000 UTC]
And considering that this is under Cosmetic Application (and not Photography) the whole purpose of this piece is to showcase the makeup, not capture the girl herself. If there was no makeup in this image, then it wouldn't be a cosmetic piece
You have this [link] cosmetic application piece in your favorites... did you leave a similar comment on it about how looking like that everyday would be undesirable to men?
Or did you take it as what it is; an artistic cosmetic design?
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VicariouSoul In reply to ShesABromide [2012-08-23 07:10:14 +0000 UTC]
Yes I know this, and yes, I did take it as what it was, being cosmetic art. So long as it's for the sake of art that's fine. I said this (read back). As I told someone else it was a 'Oh, and while we're on the subject' type of thing and voiced my opinion that yes, might have been a little irrelevant to the intent behind the picture, but since I saw this girl with a lot of make-up (to me, which I see everyday) I said something about it.
The one I put in my Favorites was not because of the make-up itself but the quality in the eye itself, notably the iris; and not only that her whole face is not showing like this one so I couldn't really tell or not if she was wearing make-up around her entire face, which is why I didn't say what I am saying about this picture. In this picture it's quite obvious there's too much going on with the make-up. It's funny you went out of your way to get a hit in on me browsing my Favorites.
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ShesABromide In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 07:52:01 +0000 UTC]
Well the "'Oh, and while we're on the subject'" is completely pointless here.
It would be like me commenting on a forest landscape photo and saying 'I think I would like this better if it was a city instead.' or commenting on a photo manipulation and saying 'I would like this more if it wasn't a manipulated photo.'
You're commenting on a cosmetic piece...and criticizing the cosmetic element of it? I don't know what you were expecting, that's all.
And so if a woman has beautiful eyes, it's okay to wear lots of eye makeup? I mean you even said you find this piece beautiful, but this is the one you chose to add your side note to. The only additional makeup that this woman is visibly wearing is lipstick. And the other artist does lips as well, so...
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VicariouSoul In reply to ShesABromide [2012-08-23 16:56:30 +0000 UTC]
No it's not. If a picture sparks something in mind my while I'm looking at it then I have the a reason and a right to say what I want to say about it. You're right [it is] a cosmetic piece and I respect it for how artistic it looks because yes it's a form of art. However, a lot of women take this gaudiness, if you will, out to the open public/in stores or places working even and I find it really not-so nice to look at.
"You're commenting on a cosmetic piece...and criticizing the cosmetic element of it?"
Yeah, that's right. It's a cosmetic piece and so was my opinion on the cosmetic part of it. How is it irrelevant or off subject if it was aimed toward the cosmetic part of it? I had two crossed opinions of this picture, but of course you only read the one half of it. I said that for Body Art is ONE thing, and it's beautiful, BUT not something that belongs in the public (my opinion) and I'm entitled to my opinion just as much anyone else or you.
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ShesABromide In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 06:56:38 +0000 UTC]
I agree that for many girls, this would be too much makeup.
Some girls put on makeup like this and end up looking like Mimi from the Drew Carey Show. And others, like myself, look awkward wearing even a little bit of makeup. And I agree there are many guys who would shy away from a girl like this, being put off by their look. I can honestly say I don't know anyone who looks like this on a daily basis.
However... this shot is deceiving because the colours have been slightly enhanced, it's so close up, and the image has a subtle pink overlay to it drowning it in colour.
If you look at another shot of a similar design, but further away with more natural lighting [link] then it doesn't look quite so shocking and suits her look.
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VicariouSoul In reply to ShesABromide [2012-08-23 07:15:49 +0000 UTC]
That second link you gave me looks like there's even more make-up used. Only a man can see this because it's in them to. Women it seems cannot. As I told someone else a man's definition of 'too much' is a world's difference than a women's, for reasons I've already explained to these other women. And I emphasize on that because it's only the women so far disagreeing and arguing with me because, well, they're women!
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ShesABromide In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 07:46:53 +0000 UTC]
I wasn't talking about the amount of makeup used, I was talking about the look all together.
The hairstyle, hair colour, earrings, hair accessories... they're all part of the girl's look, which the other women here can recognize and appreciate. It's not that women can't see the amount of makeup, it's that we can see the intent of using it.
"it's only the women so far disagreeing and arguing with me because, well, they're women!" Maybe it's because you're criticizing a woman's choice to look a certain way? I mean if you wanted to express a preference or opinion that's fine. But it's a bit silly to expect no one else to voice their opposition, especially when your opinion applies to them.
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VicariouSoul In reply to ShesABromide [2012-08-23 17:18:03 +0000 UTC]
Stop throwing words in my mouth I never said. You're taking what I'm saying out of context. There's a difference between me not agree with or liking something in particular and saying what women should look like. Quote me if you can that I said, "A women should look THIS way, because the OTHER way is completely trash." So far everyone I've told to quote me has not because they cannot do it.
Don't get me wrong, the women in this picture is absolutely gorgeous and would be even more so without all this make-up, but since this is a Body Art piece I did acknowledge it's an exception to the rule, a guilty pleasure for me to like the picture. Never did I say she was ugly, did I? No. But leave it to everyone here so far against me to make it sound that way. I only based my opinion on ONE thing, not everything. I'm always made out to be the bad guy. I can do and say one million things right but penalized for just the one thing.
Anyway, I donβt care for the earrings in their ears or the accessories in their hair, nor do I care how a womanβs hair looks (except I like it long than short); Iβd rather it all be bare and the hair be messy. I think it looks more attractive because the woman is her true self. These are things I do not look at first. The eyes are the first thing I look in (yes in not at), then her face and hair length (not so picky on color), and work my way down, slowly. With that in mind why link me a picture thatβs irrelevant to make-up if itβs not about the make-up as you say? You know by just what Iβve been saying thus far itβs one of the first things Iβm going to say something about, not the other overlooked things you mentioned.
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ButterflyAnaes In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 01:34:20 +0000 UTC]
Personally, as a young lady, I wouldn't wear this look day-to-day, but it IS pretty. I don't see how this young lady's face looks waxy, either. It's just make-up.
Though your opinion is a bit over-critical/harsh, I accept it. ...
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VicariouSoul In reply to ButterflyAnaes [2012-08-23 02:18:22 +0000 UTC]
The term waxy and the make-up melting off was all a metaphor at best and was not supposed to be taken literal. And it's always better to tell truths and hurt a little than lies to hurt a lot. Why lie when I can just tell the truth in what I think? To bring this to a more personal level on at a guy's standpoint, I want to kiss skin on a woman, not make-up. These are things women don't get. They think they have men figured out when they don't. We like it natural more than not. Even statistics have said this, which brings me back to my original point this model almost looks fake, fake and beautiful nonetheless but not something I'd go along with.
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taconacho In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 02:46:41 +0000 UTC]
it's kind of silly to assume that women apply makeup -for- men. Most people who wear makeup just wear it because they like it and it's fun. It doesn't matter to them if others think they have too much or too little or if they shouldn't wear any at all.
I understand preferences, but this girl has her own as well. It's obvious this look isn't meant to look natural. It looks like you were trying to critique this but I think you might have went the wrong way with it. You could critique on the application and colour themes and such instead of seeing this girl as a potential mate and why you wouldn't date her. It's weird and I really don't think that counts as critique.
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 02:57:10 +0000 UTC]
Again, and you're not the only one, taking some of what I said out of context. Never did I say, quote me if you can, I said women apply make-up for men. I said, to put it short, that when men see it in public presented to us on the outside it doesn't that appealing to us, whether for men or not for men.
I also didn't say I wouldn't date/go with her in particular, but I did say I wouldn't go with women in general that are into wearing this much make-up. The statements I made were generalizing statements, things backed up by what majority opinion says, not necessarily all directed to just this girl in the picture.
It was not a critique at all obviously (at least I thought it was obvious) but my opinion(s) elaborating on what I think since this picture portrays what the women look like I often see on a daily basis wearing this much make-up. It's one of those 'Oh, and while we're on the subject' type of things and so I said what was on my mind.
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taconacho In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 03:42:26 +0000 UTC]
It's the way you brought in how women think "they got men figured out", it kind of gives off the idea that you might think that's -why- they do it. It doesn't have to be appealing to anyone else but themselves, so it's odd that you bring it up.
Mentioning it sort of let that assumption fall on, I get that it might not be what you meant but again, it's just an odd thing to bring up in a comment. I'm not sure what you mean by the majority opinion; what opinion are you talking about exactly? ( wtv it is, majority isn't always a good thing though )
Hmm it was obvious and not at the same time, hard to say since most of deviantart's so called "critiques" make no sense whatsoever whether people try to make them or not >_>" don't know if that makes sense to you, it's hard to explain. It's how you mentioned that you think it's a beautiful picture but mentioned a however ( insert negative points here ). Most Critiques are made that way, so that's why I was unsure if you were being a serious ( yet harsh ) critiquer or not.
Also, I just want to mention, you said that this look is "too much" for daily wear or just for going out... For people who dye their hair intense colours, usually it's best to pair it with a more "funky" look ( whether it be clothes or makeup,etc ). It brings the look together and funnily enough, it looks more "natural" in their own way. It's easy to pull off and isn't as harsh on the eyes as you might think.
I do agree that maybe it'd be a little much for someone who perhaps has a very toned down look overall, however more power to them if they enjoy it that way.
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 03:57:28 +0000 UTC]
And at the end of my entire statement I forgot to add at the very end . . . "And that's what the majority opinion says." There you have it.
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taconacho In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 04:25:48 +0000 UTC]
lol Towards one of the older posts you mean? because you did mention it in the last one you sent me actually ( just not in the end )
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 04:44:17 +0000 UTC]
It was in the post that talked about manmade robots made to look like real-life women, thrown in to back up what I've been saying about unnatural women (and people in general come to think of it), but the subject here is mainly women.
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taconacho In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 04:58:14 +0000 UTC]
Oh alright, well you mentioned it in the first paragraph so it doesn't really matter whether you would have posted it in the last sentence or not, I got that you meant it from the "majority view"
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 03:54:02 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I did say that, in response to what you said I said . . . and?
The majority opinion I speak of comes from studies and many polls I have read up on and seen numerous times through research and on my front page when I log into my Browser. I know the majority isn't always so good, but in this case I think it is for the exact reasons stated in the below:
When a woman looks like theyβre so perfect so as to seem they have not one imperfection in their face is when they have too much make-up on. This worldβs too controlled by over-glorified magazines into thinking thatβs what a woman should look like. No one is that perfect, sorry! Women today, more of them than not, have lost almost all their sense of naturalness from their face to their entire body. A woman that looks more human and believable in beauty looks a lot more nicer as opposed to what looks it walked out of a factory producing manmade robots made to look like real-life women when they are not.
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taconacho In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 04:20:27 +0000 UTC]
Right haha I got confused in the replies there.
I don't really trust most polls or studies about these sort of things because a lot of times, some girls will wear natural makeup and some people either don't notice or confuse a "natural" look for either looking natural ( wearing makeup, just neutral ) or being natural. Most men say they like natural women who don't wear makeup but most don't know much about makeup to even notice whether a girl is wearing some or not. So yeah, I don't really trust these polls and "studies"...>_>"
I'm going to assume you mean media's idea of perfection? Sure it's true that it is quite crazy what society and the media tells you to believe what is perfect, beautiful and all. However I don't think it's alright to look down on people who choose not to be natural. It's just a preference once again, just like yours, but people who wear makeup, or alternate themselves in any way, aren't any worse or better than people who don't.
I understand that you may like better natural looks ( like the majority you claim believes as well ) but the way you're wording things makes it seem like you think less of people who choose to be unnatural. Everyone has different reasons to change their appearance be it looks, self esteem issues, fun, fitting in,etc.. It shouldn't matter to others whether they're doing it to be attractive or not.
I'm sorry but for many reasons I disagree with the whole idea that people idealize "natural" beauty or whatever. There's a lot of weird double standards in society for people who believe in the whole "natural beauty" thing. There are a lot of girls in highschool who will wear makeup because they are insecure about let's say a scar of some kind or they have acne or something, they get called cakefaces and fake for that; and then if she decides to go natural people will bully her and call her ugly or laugh at her. That kind of problem happens a lot, even past highschool.
I feel like the problem is how both extremes of society tend to look down on one and the other and that maybe if people just didn't care about other people's looks and kept their preferences to themselves or talked about them when it was called for, then maybe there wouldn't be so many messed up issues like that happening.
eh god, terribly sorry for the novel post btw >_>" I suck at explaining myself and I have a habit of going into massive run on sentences when I'm tired lol
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 04:40:34 +0000 UTC]
First and foremost Quote, "However I don't think it's alright to look down on people who choose not to be natural." End quote (from you)
I am not at all looking down on those who choose to be natural, in fact, I am FOR all-natural and natural women. Where do you get the idea I am not? Not only that it's not so much I'm looking down at those who choose to be unnatural; all I am saying is there is more bad in it than good. It's a short-lived glory and backfires on you/anyone very quickly. Women with fake breasts or who get all these implants are extremely bad health-wise and appearance-wise. These people who grow old with all these implants tend to leak out very deadly chemicals, etc. that will kill them. Some of the stuff they do to themselves is permanent and then regret settles in later, thinking to themselves, "What have I done!"
Take it as I am being a voice that cares for the well-being of women (all of mankind) not scrutiny as if they're lesser than I am as a human. No. And people wonder why they are dying all over the place when they do these things to themselves . . . The first mistake is they do no research before doing things to their bodies.
Anyway, taking a more than good guess you've done zero for research about these studies or even read up on them, I can tell you that the men used in these studies (and women too) are told which women have the make-up on and the ones that do not, and that's when the men place their opinion of the women used in the study, as described in the articles I've read talking about these studies and how they are done. They're not just done unrehearsed. They are very rehearsed studies. The taxpayers are paying for all these studies, from medicine, things to do with space, anything to do with health, etcetera and etcetera so they best be good!
Your objection toward almost everything I've said thus far is like trying to disprove the not-so disprovable fact that women do more shopping and enjoy it more than men. Mind you this too has been studied with a valid answer given on who does more shopping. Must I go on or may I rest my case now?
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taconacho In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 04:56:29 +0000 UTC]
I think you typo'd a little in that first paragraph but i got the gist of it anyways.
Backfires quickly? Do you have any evidence of that? Science and cosmetology has been advancing a lot these days, and things aren't as dangerous as they used to be ( there seems to be a huge stigma going around aesthetic surgical procedures and cosmetics these days, people are misinformed about these things ). Breast implants have changed and people are smarter than they used to be and do their research. Silicone can be dangerous, yes, but people who get breast implants ( from good surgeons ) get a lot of instructions and get check ups on them fairly often to make sure nothing wrong happens. Most people nowadays tend to go with saline though just in case. Salt water isn't dangerous to your body even if the implant does rupture ( wich is still a very unlikely case ). Plus I've rarely met anyone who's regretted getting them done tbh, most are quite proud of them ( btw most of the women I know who got them are over the age of 50, it wasn't done on impulse and they adore them lol ). And appearance wise depends on the person getting them, some like em natural looking others like them very large. Biggest inconvenience health wise is the weight of the implant and the back problems, however most surgeons don't let their patients get implants that do that much damage.
Caring for the well-being of women could be as easy as just being happy for them and their personal choices though, pushing -your- ideas of beauty over society's might seem like a good move on your part but it's hurtful to some. I understand that maybe you wish to do good, but the way you word things could potentially harm a few in the process.
Lol no I haven't, there's been so many unreliable studies in the past and some people just want to push bad stigmas. I'm glad to hear that they actually pushed to make it a good study though, they put effort into it and didn't turn it into a simple "yes" or "no" study that might as well have been an online anonymous poll with no pictures. If you have any sources for such an article, would you mind sharing? I'm curious. I disagree with it sure, but I'm still interested.
I have no idea where you're going with that, please be more specific about this whole paragraph because I don't remember you or me once bringing in the topic about whether women shop a lot or not compared to men??? O.o
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 05:16:21 +0000 UTC]
Link 1 info/risks on tattoos [link]
Link 2 about the downfalls of tattoos [link]
Link 1 about the downfalls of make-up (over time) [link]
Link 2 more behind the truth of make-up [link]
Link 1 about breast implants [link]
Link 2 cancer-related things linked to breast implants [link]
Link 1 Face lifts gone bad (visuals) [link]
Link 2 Face lift complications and more info [link]
Link 3 More on face lifts -- the good -- the bad -- the informative [link]
And those are just the gist of links on the web, but these are pretty good sources.
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taconacho In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 05:41:39 +0000 UTC]
I was hoping more for the article or study about the majority thinking natural looks is better but i guess that may be harder to find then?
Anyways, I've skimmed through some of em really quickly. Most of these "dangers" really aren't that bad and are easily avoidable. Most of the cosmetic stuff I've already learned in school and it's my job to inform people about the good and bad things in products ( yeah it's true that some low brand cosmetics take the easy route and could be potentially bad, but it's the people using products who should be either getting informed about them or be careful yknow? ).
To be honest, it baffles me that people aren't careful about what they put on their bodies and face. But even so, cosmetics really aren't that dangerous, espescially if you take care to do your research ( and you take the time to take it off with the right products at the end of the day >_>" people who get skin reactions or damage their skin overtime don't realize that this is probably because of poor hygiene along with bad/old cosmetics ). Most of the issues that were raised in those articles are either simple allergic reactions or about things that are getting regulated ( or are going to get regulated, depending where you live anyways ). Everyone should always do an allergy test before they start using something.
As for tattoos, again those articles point out the importance of finding a good reputable shop that autoclaves their things and takes hygiene seriously. Bloodbourne pathogens are a serious issue in this industry and since not every country has laws that can regulate the shops, it's just insanely important for a customer to be weary and ask a lot of questions in the shop and verify the cleanliness. The second link about tattoos doesn't seem very relevant though because most people have emotional attachment to their artwork and don't really care what happens over time to it ( if they can't control it anyways ), They still love it even if it morphs a little ( for most people anyways, and those who took the time to get the perfect design done. oh and were careful about sun exposure/cleaning )
As for the plastic surgery posts, haven't read through them as much; wanted to give a quick reply before I forget lol I'm obviously no proffessional in that field but again, research research research is the key. For almost any sort of change you do to your body ( whether it be permanent or not ), it should be important for the person to research what can happen and to find a way to get the least complications or none at all if possible.
It's unfortunate that some people can still get accidents, no surgeon or proffessional is perfect. However it's a little much I would say to cross out any kind of body modification ( again, permanent or not ) as harmful and bad. I understand that it's your preference but don't present your preferences as facts. Careful planning and researching can go a long way.
Good articles though still, maybe a bit dramatic but I guess that's normal, it catches your eye and intends to strike you.
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 06:13:58 +0000 UTC]
Here is a fair article that's up-to-date and is not completely biased to with what I've been saying [link]
Ten things men hate about women [link]
Here's a fun one 50 things men wish women knew [link]
What men find attractive (most of which doesn't talk about make-up or any of that in these 3 articles 1 [link] 2 [link] THIS ONE RIGHT HERE [link] the very first thing on the list (that's totally me)
And those are just some.
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taconacho In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 06:43:03 +0000 UTC]
I like the first one but it's saying they're attracted to unnatural women, I thought you were saying the majority is saying the opposite? or did you include this article as in the effects of media's image?
Uhm I'm not sure how I feel about the Yahoo one ( yahoo isn't really reliable is it? ) I know a lot of men feel like that but most of those points still have nothing to do with your opinion you were stating about natural women.
And lol the men's health one is hilarious, the 11# wich says natural is sexy, you should look at the comments. Yes most are women retorting it, but for the most part, they're right. Not all men notice the difference between natural or not and when you do go natural, it seems to be a huge surprise and they think girls look ill. Sadly, for the most part ( maybe not for you, but for most (single) men ) they seem to say that because they want to be nice.
I giggled alot at 12#, I was pleasantly surprised. I've never really met any guys admit whether they liked groomed eyebrows or not so seeing the comment section filled with guys saying to please take the time to groom em made me laugh, I was surprised that so many guys disagreed with what was supposed to be a list of men's opinions ( i guess whoever made it doesn't have that much of a popular opinion? )
Some of the other opinions on that list seemed a little over the top though, I don't know much about men's health but I'm going to assume it's similar to a Cosmo magazine? Because most of those points seemed to have been made by lusting men lol
Hmm yeah those other ones didn't really have anything to do with makeup, and it seems to be pretty basic stuff... I mean to be honest, most of those points are either "typical guy stuff" or things that everyone tends to dislike anyways .
You don't happen to have actual studies about makeup though and people's opinions? It sounded like a good article from what you told me, I'm curious as to what age group it was directed at ( better if it's multiple different age groups, one of those articles you shared had quotes all made from men between the ages of 27 and 31, men from that age category in general ( anyways the ones I've met ) are pretty tame with their preferences, it's like they spent all their wild times in the 80's or something? )
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 07:01:57 +0000 UTC]
I included the one about unnaturalness to be a little bit more fairer. I know that some things were irrelevant but threw them in anyway. Not everything men are attracted to are what we've been talking about via make-up, fake breasts, etc. They didn't have anything to do with make-up because that's not what men are looking for. Most can care less about the make-up. Just ask any random guy (I know you won't) what the things or thing he looks for in a woman and I guarantee you it won't be about the make-up she wears. If you really want solid proof try that sometime if internet sources are not enough to you. I've already did the research with friends of mine who are guys just like me, and none of them said anything about make-up or any of that. It was always the butt area, breast area, eyes & hair, things like that. And as I said, it's tough finding articles that consist of these studies because they just are, what can I say. I tried and tried to search on Google (a very enormous search engine) and couldn't find what I was looking for. If I do I can Note it to you. I usually see that stuff on my front page. The studies though consisted of women and men from the ages of 18 to 35.
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taconacho In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 07:11:44 +0000 UTC]
Ah okay! I was wondering why you included the other articles, I didn't think you meant you were including them to explain other areas they may like.
Hm well It seems to vary for most guys and I rarely ask them what they physically like in someone because well, I don't know I think it's a silly thing to ask about someone to be honest. I understand that physical attraction is important when first meeting someone however I like to believe that maybe men ( and women ) don't care so much about looks when looking for a potential mate. It's just preferences and well aside for T&A, wich seems to be a natural occurence amongst males since well it's basically our "savage" instinct ( couldn't find a better word haha ) to be attracted to those things since they seem to be locked into our brain to mean that a mate is potentially a good child bearer and such.
Maybe it'll seem in that last paragraph that I might have shifted my stance in a way but if it wasn't obvious, I'll just put this here to make sure, that the way I feel about appearance and personal body modifications of any kind and how people alternate themselves, is that it's up to the person themself involved and preferably that it doesn't matter to them whether they appear as attractive or not to others. I don't like the idea that there's a "main" type of attractiveness whether it be by popular vote or society's standards because in one way or another, something is always influencing these "votes".
I hope that made sense >.< it's 3am and I can't write or voice things as nicely as I'd like, so I hope I was able to get my point accross without sounding illiterate.
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 07:32:56 +0000 UTC]
Since I'm getting tired I'll just sum it up by saying we are a very judgemental kind, a quality and thing that's also built deep into our DNA and there's NO getting rid of it. So as much you don't like the idea of 'BEST' vs. 'not so good' is really too bad because that's just the way it is, and it's not going to change today, tomorrow, next year, the year after that, and so on . . . Everyone's guilty of being judgemental or biased in some way, shape, or form. People are judgemental in more ways than one, including, but not limited to anything to do with appearance.
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 05:57:26 +0000 UTC]
Right, I forgot that one. I'll send that one too, and yes, may take me a little longer than the others to find some relevant articles that are most up-to-date. This makes me wish I saved these articles that come up on my front page.
Yeah and don't forget that when you get older the tattoos look really terrible, and for those who can afford the tattoo but not the technology/tools to remove them are screwed. It's called think before doing.
I guess it's really 'to each their own' in what they want to think. Me, I know damn well there's more going on than the eye can see. You have to think and remember, how could these higher-up people not have in the back of their often sick mind, "Well, well, haha, everybody's using THIS! Let's put something in it that'll make for a real slooow death" or whatever it is the common man doesn't really know when it comes to what's in the food we eat, what we drink, etc. Oh, and the labels don't always tell you everything in what's in everything that goes on or into us.
It's all about thinning the herd. There's too many people and they're doing what they can to level out the population. I always like to say, "Whatever . . . so long as I'm not the one being this stupid or doing what everyone else does." Remember when I said I was trying to be a voice to help look out for Man's well-being? Do you not think I know my words and what I say is on deaf ears? Of course it is, but that doesn't stop me. Someone has to do it.
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taconacho In reply to VicariouSoul [2012-08-23 06:10:47 +0000 UTC]
That's alright, thank you.
Placement is the better solution in that, just some people don't think about it early on. And if the colour fades, a quick touch up usually does the trick. Some tattoos do get outdated though I'll admit, playboy bunnies and winnie the pooh tattoos >.<" ehhh
Yep, to each their own, exactly. Luckily enough, people are getting weary about what goes into their products ( food or cosmetics and such ) and are quick to boycott or avoid once the research panels show up with a bad ingredient or side-effect. I forget the exact number, but if i remember correctly ( in canada anyways ) it can take up to 4 years for a product to get released. Companies know that people have easy access to the internet and have the possibility of finding good "dirt" on them wich makes it much more important for companies now to be careful about what they're doing with their products. People like to bring big name companies to court, because obviously it's an easy pay out, and brands are being careful to avoid these lawsuits. I will say though that there is quite a few brands that just don't care about lawsuits and make more money before the product even get removed from off the shelves ( I really wish I remembered wich though! I had a quick list made in school, I THINK it's Olay and Covergirl but I'm not entirely sure...then again most big name pharmacy companies do this ).
Hmm well it looks like you might have your own conspiracy theory of some kind there, that's fine too. Maybe a little much, but I guess as long as you're not harming anyone with it, that's okay ( although maybe being a bit more sensitive as to the comments you make to the artist could be nice though, no need to sugarcoat, just not be mean about it ). Just don't use false information and that's fine by me, it makes my job so much harder when I had stubborn customers who believe I'm working in some kind of cancer inducing factory >_>"
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VicariouSoul In reply to taconacho [2012-08-23 06:21:36 +0000 UTC]
That's the thing, a great many people get straightforwardness confused with being mad, mean, etc. when all I'm being here is nothing short of honest. The speed at which I reply to you should more than enough say that I'm not rehearsing anything. It's exactly what I think and is on my mind.
These things are not theories either. They're things that are always on the headlines, new, said by everyday people, and a problem is found in many products, etc. but then there are quick cover-ups so the higher up guys don't get in trouble that are head of these companies or agencies. I'd go on with a story about when my mother went to the hospital and what B.S. they tried to pull (almost killed her too) but this conversation is getting longer than I wanted. The things they get away with are incredible.
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