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So Eclipse is ComingSEE MY LATEST JOURNAL ON THIS HERE:


I'd like to organize a proactive event to show DA the possible results of a permanent Eclipse change-over. Instead of deactivating your accounts for good, or indefinitely boycotting the site, I'd like to make a Statement of Silence for those Users against Eclipse. Starting May 1st, I will not be active on Deviantart. I will not submit new deviations, journals or even visit the site for 3 Days time. From 12:00AM CST May 1st to 12:00am May 4th. (3 days) I ask all other Users who wish to keep old Deviantart to join me in this statement of silence. 

Not Only Is Eclipse Difficult to Navigate, It is so close to Plagiarism it isnt funny. How they aren't in a Lawsuit with Artstation is beyond me!
Look at these site comparisons!

  <- DA Eclipse  Artstation-> 

Comparisons Courtesy of V0IDSPACER
Now I'd like to point out several people have told me that the similarities may be due to the fact artstation and DA are both now owned by Wix. 
I honestly would need to do some research to see if this is true or just speculation. 

Update  
ArtStation is NOT owned by Wix as some of our sleuthy commenters have discovered!

it is owned owned by a company called Ballistiq but is run as its own entity.

  www.artstation.com/about/compa…
"ArtStation is proud to be independently run. With no external investment, we grew our business from humble beginnings to one of the largest websites on the Internet. Being independent keeps us close and accountable to the community that we serve."
This was just confirmed to me by a current employee of theirs. ^^




Even DA's New Logo has Been Questioned as Plagiarism:
www.creativebloq.com/logo-desi…


Perhaps the abrupt halt and slow down of site traffic will show DA team members the devastating effects this could have on their audiences they cater to. They have failed to listen when we speak out... perhaps they will listen to The Sound Of Silence. 

#TheSoundOfSilenceMovement
Please Feel free to share this journal to get on board and spread the word. 
Some have said this is getting attention elsewhere as well so feel free to share to your instagrams, twitters and so on as well.
Feel free to Translate this to Other Languages as well!!

Lets get it out to as many eyes and artists as possible!


Also, please no negative commentary. This is about supporting one another. Not Being malicious to DA or other users

Set an Alarm, or Follow Me, I will Post a Reminder Journal On the Day Before!
The Sound of Silence - Core Refund Tickets?Hello there! Creator of #TheSoundofSilenceMovement here.a fellow DA User noted me :iconrandomchiz: with another intriguing idea.  That users send in support tickets asking for refunds on their Core. Now I know the majority of you will probably cut out core if you end up leaving indefinitely or even if you stay, since all them pretty perks are no longer available. And I highly doubt that DA will actually Refund anyone. However perhaps the flood of refund requests might make a statement as to the loss of their revenue in that regard. The double-edge of this blade however, is that they /may/ decide to refund us, and we will be cut off our cor...
Interesting idea brought to me ^

also someone has made a #thesoundofsilencemovement   Discord:
discord.gg/ZcWBxgk

THIS PETITION HAS REACHED 10k+ SIGNATURES!www.change.org/p/deviantart-te…

And here are several other petitions going around, if you all wish to sign any:
chng.it/SJThsrmPT2
chng.it/yY6pxYm67L
chng.it/rxrTBtYhb6
chng.it/T5SHByf2xw
chng.it/TVNpbtfHQZ

Some Supporters of my movement have been creating some wonderful art for us all!
Here is a Sound of Silence Icon!

Icon:



And a "We Can Fight" With a template so you can create this featuring your own character:
  
by the lovely Drakarra

BIG UPDATE
A Group Of LikeMinded Deviants With The Right Resources Are Working on a New DA Alternative Site!! 
Go read about their Project and SUPPORT THEM ANY WAY YOU CAN. 

A Fun Thing that tracks the activity taking place on DA:
world.deviantart.com/

An Eclipse Redesign Plugin that might make adjusting a little easier
www.deviantart.com/isi-daddy/j…

And for those of you wanting to give Eclipse your feedback (hah!) There is this:
www.eclipsefeedback.com/



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Comments: 4097

Kimitfrg666 In reply to ??? [2020-05-02 04:29:06 +0000 UTC]

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Kimitfrg666 In reply to Kimitfrg666 [2020-05-02 04:29:12 +0000 UTC]

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SugarSnowGardens In reply to Kimitfrg666 [2020-05-02 16:08:10 +0000 UTC]

did you just tell yourself to stop i-

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Kimitfrg777returns In reply to Kimitfrg666 [2020-05-02 04:29:58 +0000 UTC]

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Kimitfrg666 In reply to Kimitfrg777returns [2020-05-02 04:30:40 +0000 UTC]

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Hairyblob2 In reply to ??? [2020-05-02 01:54:18 +0000 UTC]

I can't do any art for this movement. Hope my comment will be enough to support you! Good luck!

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Yeklonex In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 20:57:10 +0000 UTC]

Let's go!

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worldofcaitlyn In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 19:23:48 +0000 UTC]

Good luck,

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Liar94 In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 15:52:05 +0000 UTC]

Pfft, this just sounds like a normal week for me. I haven’t uploaded anything since the year started. 

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IronicDigiBiscuit In reply to Liar94 [2020-05-04 02:44:11 +0000 UTC]

you and me both

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NajatTrippy In reply to Liar94 [2020-05-02 09:59:59 +0000 UTC]

LOL

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rose-undead In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 15:24:53 +0000 UTC]

so begins the silence

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AliceTheDreamy In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 14:35:47 +0000 UTC]

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Marukur0 In reply to AliceTheDreamy [2020-05-01 15:59:56 +0000 UTC]

Never have I ever heard anyone complain about the current design

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AliceTheDreamy In reply to Marukur0 [2020-05-01 16:39:49 +0000 UTC]

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CyHa-1 In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 13:56:40 +0000 UTC]

I'm in

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HeroMan655 In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 10:42:24 +0000 UTC]

See you in three days!  

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YukiSenmatsu In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 06:20:39 +0000 UTC]

Less than an hour left.

In the meantime, more realism practice

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YukiSenmatsu In reply to YukiSenmatsu [2020-05-04 08:04:51 +0000 UTC]

...............If Mother's Day 20' didn't get in the way.

Oof!

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Nichrysalis In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 06:02:55 +0000 UTC]

Nevertheless, I applaud your efforts.

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Nichrysalis In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 05:54:27 +0000 UTC]

I am 100% against Eclipse, but here's just a few things to think about from a dA vet and a former CV:

Point 1: The dA logo is not plagiarized. That's just silly. The designers and developers are US-based with no ties to any of the alleged logos they've "plagiarized" from, none of the shapes have been directly lifted from any logo, it is actually incredibly unique as far as logos go, and thirdly, even if they saw these logos and were inspired by it... why should they be punished for being artists? This is an artists' site, that's silly talk to hold them to unrealistic standards.


Point 2: That's what all art sites are looking like right now. It's just the sad state of things that they all follow the same formula.

Point 3: Less traffic doesn't matter right now. It matters when Eclipse rolls out. And I'm going to be honest, less traffic probably won't enact any change, it will probably just get the site shut down. The site is and has not been performing well for an extended period of times due to a series of poor management decisions and complacent leadership. deviantART is not the juggernaut it used to be, nor does it try to be a standout in its market now. That coupled with a parent company that doesn't really care or have a reason to keep the site around makes me very concerned the site will be retired in coming years. I personally don't want to waste any time I can on this site before it switches to eclipse, so the protest has no use for me.

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Silerna In reply to Nichrysalis [2020-05-12 16:41:16 +0000 UTC]

They deserve to be shutdown for many reasons

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Nichrysalis In reply to Silerna [2020-05-13 05:29:42 +0000 UTC]

Care to elaborate as opposed to being cryptic?

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Silerna In reply to Nichrysalis [2020-05-13 13:17:16 +0000 UTC]

1. Copyright violation. 1 admin being arrested twice for this.
2. allowing stalkers , harrassment and so on.
3. allowing childporn.
4. Allowing things such as Screenshots as ‘art’ while it’s infact stealing.
5. unproffessional and disrespectful behavior from the help desk.

and so on :/

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Nichrysalis In reply to Silerna [2020-05-13 16:00:51 +0000 UTC]

I understand you're frustrated at dA, I am too. But copyright violation is not a reason to shut a site down, that's a reason for the person committing the copyright violation to face punishment. Also, you can't be arrested for that as it has to involve significant criminal cause, which simple violations don't.

They don't allow any of those things, I know, it used to be my job to take them down. I'm still scarred from some of the flagged stuff I saw that I had to take down. But they rely on a system where users need to report issues and because of the sheer volume of the site they have bad turnaround times, same for the help desk.

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Silerna In reply to Nichrysalis [2020-05-13 16:30:41 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha keep sticking your head in the sand.

money.cnn.com/2016/07/21/techn… And you say copyright isn't important? Think again.

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Nichrysalis In reply to Silerna [2020-05-13 20:03:05 +0000 UTC]

I never said it wasn't important, just that what you said was exaggerated and false and someone would not be arrested for it. Illegal torrenting is about theft and massive amounts of money being lost due to organized efforts to steal; comparing torrenting sites being taken down is not a comparable analogy to what the site's staff has been accused of. Citing a source doesn't help your argument if your source is unrelated and unexplained.


Before you accuse me of being narrow-minded, why don't you try being open to what others are saying and why they're saying those things?

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Silerna In reply to Nichrysalis [2020-05-13 21:34:01 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha if you think torrenting and uploading illegal screenshots aren’t the same thing then perhaps you should think again, it’s BOTH theft. Studio’s lose this money because dA allows them to be uploaded and expects that animation studio’s make a DMCA report for évery screenshots uploaded. These idiots think studio’s actually have time to waste. 


You clearly do not understand this. It’s not exactly rocket science to know. And maybe you should take your own advice before you say to me that I should open up and Find out why people say those things. 


Gee, Wonder why did I said those things   

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Nichrysalis In reply to Silerna [2020-05-15 16:00:22 +0000 UTC]

Again, conflating two similar things does not make them the same thing. Comparing apples to oranges and concluding that because they're both fruit and they should be considered the same thing is preposterous. And again, stop assuming things about me just because I disagree with you. Just because I disagree with you, doesn't mean you know anything about me, who I am, or what I think.

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Silerna In reply to Nichrysalis [2020-05-15 17:57:46 +0000 UTC]

Ok

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Howl-n-Hart In reply to Nichrysalis [2020-05-04 06:07:41 +0000 UTC]

Very excellent points all around. I may post your comment on a future journal of mine if I may. I appreciate the great info!

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Ix-Acario-xI In reply to Nichrysalis [2020-05-01 09:26:24 +0000 UTC]

Preach. Also, wouldn't be surprised if they used the same engine to develop their websites. For instance, a ton of community boards I've come across use WoltLab Suite. The DA and Artstation layouts are way too similar to not have the same software.

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harryhack91 In reply to Ix-Acario-xI [2020-05-04 20:35:08 +0000 UTC]

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XxVampweebyxX In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 04:59:21 +0000 UTC]

Say your goodbyes up above my friends!

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XxVampweebyxX In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 04:59:15 +0000 UTC]

1 minute left

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XxVampweebyxX In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 04:55:09 +0000 UTC]

Hey guys, during these last five minutes, I just wanna say that I believe in each and every one of you to stay off of DA for the weekend! You guys are truly the best! If you ever feel tempted, remember that you can always post art/talk on Instagram, Artstation, discord, twitter, etc. Remember that the mods/admins of discord HAVE noticed us and there's more than a 60% chance that we will make a difference!

And if you want, follow me on insta!  www.instagram.com/vampweeby/?h…

Thank you and see you soon!   

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vorelover6996alt In reply to XxVampweebyxX [2020-05-04 01:32:49 +0000 UTC]

broski it wont do jack shit

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TheCottonCandyDemon In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 04:15:54 +0000 UTC]

Count me in! See y’all on the 4th!

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Nezusagi In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 04:03:07 +0000 UTC]

See y'all in a few days, lmao.

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CelestialSecrets In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 03:31:08 +0000 UTC]

I'm participating. I might even boycott longer just to be stubborn.

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90skid2386 In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 03:11:16 +0000 UTC]

Let's do this

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darthsand2005 In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 03:10:37 +0000 UTC]

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SilentJ1 In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 02:46:35 +0000 UTC]

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arthurhoare9 In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 02:42:26 +0000 UTC]

Count me in!

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Pure-Blue-Heart In reply to ??? [2020-05-01 02:21:48 +0000 UTC]

What I don’t understand is why it’s the 1st through the 4th. Eclipse launches on the 20th

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Direwolf1411225 In reply to Pure-Blue-Heart [2020-05-01 02:52:46 +0000 UTC]

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Pure-Blue-Heart In reply to Direwolf1411225 [2020-05-01 02:59:07 +0000 UTC]

Yes I understand all that, but why specifically those dates? Why wouldn’t we boycott the week that it releases? Like, that doesn’t make sense. The site doesn’t change until the 20th, so why not go silent the day it launches so the decrease in activity happens as it launches. Doing it before launch makes no sense.

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Direwolf1411225 In reply to Pure-Blue-Heart [2020-05-21 16:21:35 +0000 UTC]

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CelestialSecrets In reply to Pure-Blue-Heart [2020-05-01 03:29:39 +0000 UTC]

It's not during the launch because the point is to prevent the launch, before it's too late and they're like "oops well look we already did it".

As for the specific dates, it's really arbitrary no matter what you choose. I think the very beginning of the month makes sense because it's easier for people to remember, plus it's on a weekend like SpamHands mentioned. It's just easy. And it really doesn't matter so I'm not sure why you're complaining lol. We agree on some dates and this happens to be it, now please help us pull through with it!

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Pure-Blue-Heart In reply to CelestialSecrets [2020-05-01 03:33:15 +0000 UTC]

Honestly, as much as I support this movement and hate Eclipse, I don’t think the staff will care. They’ve neglected our feedback so much in the past that it’s ridiculous. Who said I was complaining? I asked a question and explained why it made no sense to me. I’m not doing this specific thing, I plan to stay off for the entire month. But again, as much as I support these protests, I don’t think they will listen to us since they never have before.

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