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Description You probably know this by now, but can I still say that I'm sick to death of hearing about all this anti-BWBA rubbish? I'll admit that I have my own reservations, but I don't go around whining about it 24/7. And that's because I have bigger things to worry about. I also find it extremely pathetic that people continue to beat a scrapped steam engine over changes we've known about for two years, and yet My Little Pony's ninth season, something with even bigger writing problems, gets let off the hook because, apparently, it's the last season of said show. I've written enough about season nine already, and from what I've seen thus far in the second half that's aired early in China (barring A Horse Shoe-In, of which I can't find the English dub of), it's going to crash and burn when the finale finally airs.

And yes, I maintain that MLP season nine is the worst season of any kids' show ever. Worse than season ten of The Fairly OddParents (the show was practically dying by the time its tenth season began, and you expected nothing more than stupid writing), worse than the Nitrogen era of Thomas (again, you expected stupid writing after a while), and heck, worse than any season of Teen Titans Go! (you never really had any expectations to begin with, even ignoring that it's kind of overhated these days; it's a bog standard kids' comedy show, the only thing making it stand out was that it had characters from a comic book series). As for season nine of My Little Pony? This is from a show where you have high expectations, and for that season, they rewrote Twilight's character solely to make her part of a big story arc, regardless of logic, continuity issues, or any unfortunate implications they could lead to. As a minor spoiler, A Trivial Pursuit practically portrays Twilight as an insufferable jerk to Pinkie and the episode immediately after that, The Summer Sun Setback, tries to justify her behavior in the former (as well as Sparkle's Seven, The Point of No Return and Between Dark and Dawn) by loosely calling it character development, which just feels like a hollow insult.

As for seasons 22 and 23 of Thomas and Friends? Can we stop beating on that scrapped steam engine already? I know there are problems, but there are still good moments to be found if you take the time to study them. Leaving the international episodes to the side, perhaps we can all agree that the Sodor stories are just as good (well, with the exception of Apology Impossible) as those from S17-21. I'm not trying to go all SJW up in anyone's ass (which I'm not, for the record), but it would be for the best of everyone to understand that there are far worse things to worry about in the real world than changes to 80s preschool childhood memories. Okay? Thanks for listening.

Thomas and Friends (C) Hit Entertainment/Mattel
The Railway Series (C) The Awdry Family
My Little Pony: FiM (C) Hasbro
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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to ??? [2022-01-16 23:16:59 +0000 UTC]

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TCH2 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2022-01-17 09:41:03 +0000 UTC]

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to TCH2 [2022-01-17 10:27:03 +0000 UTC]

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to TCH2 [2022-03-24 21:00:11 +0000 UTC]

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TCH2 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2022-03-25 09:17:15 +0000 UTC]

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Denngine [2022-01-08 18:23:59 +0000 UTC]

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to Denngine [2022-01-08 23:54:14 +0000 UTC]

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to phantomcandy1158 [2021-07-15 13:19:26 +0000 UTC]

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Toonwatcher [2020-06-15 20:42:40 +0000 UTC]

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to Toonwatcher [2020-06-15 22:05:46 +0000 UTC]

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ARandomGuy235 [2020-01-07 04:22:28 +0000 UTC]

Yeah true

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to ARandomGuy235 [2020-01-07 04:31:44 +0000 UTC]

Yep.

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ARandomGuy235 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2020-01-07 04:32:30 +0000 UTC]

Yeah

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ESLM-Studios [2019-09-10 22:11:43 +0000 UTC]

I’m going to be honest, I’ve hardly seen any of Season 9. After seeing episodes 1 & 2, I pretty much called in quits.

To call MLP season nine the worst season of any children’s series, I wouldn’t exactly agree on that. There have been worse.

But to put it simple regarding Season 9, I’d say the writers have pretty much run out of ideas and just continued the series for merchandising, and while they thought on characters, designs, storylines, they forgot the crucial part, and that’s what series struggle with today in general, personalities. I mean, if What say, we were to rewrite Season 9, we’d give most of the characters the personalities they had from Season 1-4, or to 8 as there’s been character development within them.

As for Season 22 and 23’s attitudes, I think we’ve talked enough on those... but I’ll be honest, probably the only good episodes out of the bunch in Season 23 is probably Heart of Gold and Free the Roads because the personalities are all in tacked. And I suppose Digs and Discoveries could have been successful, if it was focused more on Gina, more Italian Engines, more original characters from Italy, and no Thomas at all. But, it was made by the series’ current worst writer, in which wrote Apology Impossible.

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to ESLM-Studios [2019-09-10 22:13:47 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Becky did write an awful episode, but should we think the worst of her because of it? No.

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BriceGum138 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-10-06 05:46:16 +0000 UTC]

Sorry I had to notice a comment there, but I agree. Just because someone wrote an episode other people don't like or a bad episode doesn't mean they should be social pariahs from people for it or that they are complete and utter assholes for it. Plus, I am sure Becky Overton is a nice person. I got to admit, "All Tracks Lead to Rome", "Mines of Mystery" and "Gordon Gets the Giggles" were very good. I never found the "Digs and Discoveries" two part arc that bad.

The same had been with Sharon Miller, I know she screwed everything up when Season 12 came along when she became head writer after working on "The Great Discovery". But at least the Season 16 episode "Happy Birthday, Sir!" helped everything back on track for the show once again. However, one of the few problems I do have to be honest is that there is more to Thomas than him being just curious quote on quote. He is cheeky, he is thick skinned, he is prone to fussiness, he is good natured, he is good at heart, he is friendly, he has at least some consistency left in him, and also, he is still likable. I get this is another trait for kids to relate to on the tank engine, but again, he can't be a character that is no more than one trait because it just doesn't work because you will add in other personality traits for your characters anyway.

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to BriceGum138 [2019-10-06 05:49:08 +0000 UTC]

Exactly.

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ESLM-Studios In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-09-10 22:19:31 +0000 UTC]

Could the same be said for Sharon Miller?

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to ESLM-Studios [2019-09-10 22:29:54 +0000 UTC]

I suppose so, yeah. I mean, she's a great voice director.

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ESLM-Studios In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-09-10 22:37:42 +0000 UTC]

Precisely. So whenever someone says the Miller Era was bad or terrible, Bear in mind not everything from that era was bad, and voice casting was one of them.

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to ESLM-Studios [2019-09-10 22:52:10 +0000 UTC]

Yep.

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TrueLightningStriker [2019-08-26 21:43:21 +0000 UTC]

Compared to Twilight's recent character development, Thomas is a saint.

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to TrueLightningStriker [2019-08-26 21:43:45 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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JwwProd [2019-08-09 19:58:41 +0000 UTC]

I don't know if you ever been into Game of Thrones but the final season of that show (Which just finish airing in May this year) is the definition of the word "Trainwreck"

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to JwwProd [2019-08-09 22:25:05 +0000 UTC]

Never watched GoT.

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JwwProd In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-08-10 08:58:00 +0000 UTC]

Games of Thrones from season 1-4 and season 6 was the **** season 5 and 7 were misses but season 8.......... OMG! How could they are screwed up this bad!

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to JwwProd [2019-08-10 09:07:44 +0000 UTC]

I see. I'm not sure if I'll be watching it any time soon; maybe it's the excessive amount of gore and sex that kind of turns me off.

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MusicAndMovies1993 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2020-11-12 22:07:22 +0000 UTC]

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to MusicAndMovies1993 [2020-11-13 00:10:13 +0000 UTC]

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MusicAndMovies1993 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2020-11-13 04:52:17 +0000 UTC]

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to MusicAndMovies1993 [2020-11-13 05:31:38 +0000 UTC]

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JwwProd In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-08-10 09:10:18 +0000 UTC]

Fair enough.

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to JwwProd [2019-08-10 09:47:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I do have limits as to what I'm willing and not willing to watch.

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BriceGum138 [2019-07-25 20:28:21 +0000 UTC]

I may not have liked "Thomas Makes a Mistake" (yes, I did a review on that episode, and I dislike it than hate it or consider it godawful since it's far from godawful. The only thing that's the biggest pet peeve is the stupid title... Do I have to make something on full detail about the title? I don't want to). But if you want to see some character assassination on Thomas, "Sodor Surprise Day" or "Wonky Whistle" are examples of those. Thomas' character in the Brenner era is fine, and no, he is NOT that unlikable in S17-S23. Yes, he did act like kind of an asshole in "The Other Side of the Mountain" and "The Great Race", there were two media in the Brenner era where only Thomas was out of character there. Was he this unlikable in S22-S23? Fuck no!

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to BriceGum138 [2019-07-25 21:14:17 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, they're far from his worst portrayal.

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BriceGum138 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-07-25 21:42:40 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, in "Thomas Makes a Mistake" (ugh, should have been called "More Mistakes Don't Equal Any Better", mind you). We at least Thomas realize his mistakes, even though he screwed everything up three times in a row that episode. Whilst he was kind of off character, at least it wasn't in a way where it is "Saved You!" or "Wonky Whistle" despite the three strikes formula, because we know he wasn't as idiotic as his S12-S16 persona.

In "Wonky Whistle", it's done backwards. Thomas doesn't show any realization for the animals he had left behind, nor did he realize his mistakes about his wonky whistle causing havoc, nor did he do anything about them until near the end of the episode. That here is just cringeworthy! I know this was 2011 (2010 because S15 was produced the same year as "Misty Island Rescue" and the rest of S14, and was made during the 65th anniversary of the Railway Series), but this doesn't excuse how much this kind of idiocy really goes against Thomas' character.

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to BriceGum138 [2019-07-25 22:13:12 +0000 UTC]

Yeah.

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BriceGum138 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-07-26 07:11:18 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, in S21-23, did he lose his original personality again? Of course not. Even if these were the first three seasons of the Jam Filled era, and the last three of the Brenner era, Thomas was still likable in this era. The last time he lost all his original personality was in S12. He was fine in HOTR and BMM, but S12 and S13-16, come on. They really screwed him up. I know Sharon Miller isn't a bad person (which I doubt because it's not like she is some egocentric twat who can't handle criticism), but they way how Thomas is written made everyone miss the days where he was cheeky, but yet sometimes thick-skinned or eager. But all what we got was him leaving disaster in his wake to do something he thinks he will benefit ("Saved You!" and "Misty Island Rescue" were bad offenders of this). But by S17, he gained his original personality once again, but mostly eager, friendly, responsible, sometimes gets naive, and is as good-natured as SpongeBob, but he was still at least better than he was in S12-S16.

You could argue he started losing sight of who he is in around S8 or S9, back when HiT still owned the show. He had his moments where he was kind of an asshole, especially to the other engines. But you know what? S8-S11 were the same seasons as the first seven where Thomas was still likable. He was still kind, he's still optimistic, he's still good-natured, and he's still a gentle soul of a railway engine. Hell, in "Don't Be Silly Billy". An episode before the five of the worst Thomas seasons to date even existed in the time, he was the one getting shit on. Not by the other engines or Farmer McColl, he was shit on to Billy because of his "stop telling me what to do" crap he caused to him. There, you can feel bad for Thomas there. I mean really, Thomas in the Brenner era is not THIS BAD.

Was Thomas still his stupid idiot self from S12-16? Far from it!

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to BriceGum138 [2019-07-26 07:29:34 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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BriceGum138 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-07-26 07:35:46 +0000 UTC]

With S24-present coming along, as long we keep stupid nonsense like "Mr. Whatever the Hell it Is" nonsense, or Thomas acting like a complete jackass (as seen in "Thomas and the New Engine", "Follow That Flour", "The Great Race", and "The Other Side of the Mountain"), or even his worst persona from S12-S16 out of the picture. I'm pretty sure the new head writer might portray him as good as how Andrew Brenner, Wilbert Awdry, Christopher Awdry, Britt Allcroft, David Mitton, and Sam Barlow (in most episodes from S8-11 and S12; since S12 is both part of the Barlow era and Miller era after all) did.

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to BriceGum138 [2019-07-26 07:39:45 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, let's hope so.

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BriceGum138 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-07-26 14:58:13 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, he may have had his ups and downs in the Brenner era. That doesn't mean he will never gain his original personality back. That's already happened since S17, BMM, and KOTR. He himself was still the same personality in BWBA, S22, and S23 as he was in S1-S7 and S8-S11.

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to BriceGum138 [2019-07-26 20:46:41 +0000 UTC]

Yep.

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BriceGum138 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-07-27 02:00:56 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. Episodes like "Rosie is Red", "Trusty Trunky" and "Wish You Were Here" can show Thomas can still learn a lesson. For "Rosie is Red". He was defensive and rude to Rosie after defending her, but apologizes later in the end of the episode, and never did a thing like that to Rosie again and everything is good again. "Trusty Trunky". Thomas has learned that most of the time, elephants can help engines back on the rails without a breakdown crane. I'm pretty sure it's happened in real life because there could be engines in other railways/railroads that came off the tracks and were brought back on the rails by an elephant. And "Wish You Were Here", Thomas learns from Percy that being brave is not what you do, even when you do feel scared when he mistaken a dragon boat as a real dragon. I mean really, I know he was frightened at first then realizes later, but that doesn't mean he is this big of an idiot!Β [cough] "The Lion of Sodor".

Sorry for bringing that episode up. But yeah, you get the point why.

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to BriceGum138 [2019-07-27 02:03:09 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I do. People calling BWBA the worst thing that happened to Thomas need a smack or ten with reality that it could've been way worse than it is.

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BriceGum138 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-07-27 02:25:23 +0000 UTC]

Want to see the worst thing that happened to Thomas? Well here you go! The worst Thomas movie of all time.
drive.google.com/file/d/1waCrr… [I'm sorry in advance, I really am ]

And yes, this one is the true worst thing that happened to the franchise. Not because of the animation, the song in the end credits (I'm pretty sure it's an unpopular opinion) and concept, those I can deal with. What I hate about it is the writing, rhyming and alteration being overused when necessary in 51 times in 1 movie that can make Dr. Seuss cringe up in heaven, the character derailment on Thomas, the ignorance of common logic, lack of morals, the Logging Locos being introduced very badly, and how it made Thomas' colorful spark become long gone in the time. When S8-11 came out, things may had a dip in quality, even after S6-S7 were praised, and TAMTR failed, but things were still good until when S12 came out, the show got bad.

HOTR came out, and it introduced the "full" CGI animation well. But when S13 came out, it went down again, and got worse. But when "Misty Island Rescue" came out the same year, it was received well at first until around 2012 or 2013 as it is now disowned by many fans. And by S14, all the common logic, colorful creativity, and great writing and storytelling was long gone, and they even kept Misty Island and the Logging Locos, which they should have ignored them years later and focused on somethings different. Yeah, these seasons were back then, but this is saying a lot.

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HufflepuffBatboy In reply to BriceGum138 [2019-07-27 02:29:56 +0000 UTC]

I haven't seen MIR in years.

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BriceGum138 In reply to HufflepuffBatboy [2019-07-27 02:41:44 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I don't know if you enjoyed it at first then disowned it later on or hated it and saw it as a flop.

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