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Here's my inked piece of Lucifer. Don't be offended, I'll make you hate him in my game, don't worry
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Your Lucifer is beautiful!! I love the symbolism of the snake and it's so clear why Adam was totally seduced by such a beautiful creature! XD
(Sorry if you're offended by getting comments on old art...2006 after all XD)
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Definitely not offended, honored actually. And yes, I imagine Lucifer would've been the most beautiful and seductive being to ever exist.
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Oh, good good. It's just every artist in the world, except myself, seems to hate their old works, and the only reply I always get is "well THANK YOU VERY MUCH yuni for bringing up this shit from my scraps" XD
By the way, I like how Lucifer has 3 accounts in the Abyss, now to think of it I know many characters with multiple personalities, but I don't remember any character with a single personality but multiple bodies XD So cool! If I had two bodies, I could do so many things XD
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Right?! More bodies means more fun
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And with three bodies he can do a threesome XD No wonder he's so alone in The Abyss... who needs others when you got three bodies XD
"I don't draw for me, I draw for these entities" - you draw for Lucifer? Or...the website owners? But I thought the website was yours..
I confess I found them when I searched for "Lucifer" in your gallery, just wanted to see how you imagine the guy. Just because every time I draw him it's always a whole different character... Plus in my infernal world I got 5 kingdoms but Lucifer is not the leader of any of them... Plus all my fiction about him is contradictory and incompatible with the lore XD He is betraying even meee!! What a jerk
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Yes he could, but since the other 2 forms are monstrous, eww... Hahaha.
When I say entities, it's energies that I feel have been inspiring the characters and world I've put together. Like, I randomly came up with the name Naix and his last name is black star/sun. Then it turns out, Naix means birth in catalan and this "birth of the black star" is a huge cult thing that David Bowie was worshiping right before he died. And my made up country Galacia is another spanish province, so all these demon-related things come from Spain for some reason, and I didn't plan that. So I'm just diving deeper in the rabbit hole to find more sources to this stuff.
Yeah, I can't imagine Lucifer, King of shadows, obviously ruling anything. I imagine he's the secret overlord that people aren't even aware of. So it makes sense that you can't pin him down and get something straight out of him.
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Oh my, I didn't know they were monstrous XD I'd rather have a threesome of mixed genders but yeah I guess your world is MUUUCH less on the erotic side and more on the epic/heroic, so it's perfect! :3
Funny, I made the name Yuni is a name generator in 2003, but only 10 years later I found it's not only an existing real name for some people but the word also means "young girl" in Sanskrit (and probably Hindi). Oh so Satan is Spanish in your universe? Cool XD
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Yep, his Prince form is his face, really. He thinks he's still that beautiful angel and it acts more like an avatar for him, but he thinks it's his true form. And yes, he is extremely erotic. He loves sexually dominating things. But the other two forms have no relation to that part of him.
Yeah, I think we tap into things sometimes. I mean, 15 spiders was totally random, and then I learned that spiders are a code name for Nephilim, which is kind of what my Shadows characters are. And including the other games, there are 15 of them. Crazy indeed.
Oh, and I uploaded the quotes now. I think it turned out alright for a quick project 
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That's interesting about Lucifer and it also gave me a deeper understanding of how the several forms of bosses really work in the classical JRPGs
But still I feel like Lucifer is best for your universe just the way he is, to make him feel more dangerous. But if you feel like experimenting, we could make a version of Lucifer in my world based on your idea of his avatars as independent entities, but all the three forms, The Prince, The Saboteur and The Devourer, being pretty boys XD That could work really well in my world because I still have the vacant ruler positions in Frostheim and Vulcania here: yuni.us/sim - while Titania does have a ruler, King Asmodeus, but he himself can be an avatar of Lucifer. That'd also explain why he doesn't have horns like other demons, in my astral realm (Inferia) only angels don't have horns, and thus Lucifer being a fallen angel would explain why his avatars don't have horns. Then King Asmodeus could perhaps be The Devourer, while the other two avatars aren't really designed yet but I thought The Prince could have a snowy/northern appearance and rule Frostheim, while The Saboteur has this bdsm/ninja style outfit and rules Vulcania. And all the three of them, then, wouldn't have horns, thus making them stand out next to all other demons and accentuate their angelic origins. Then, Pyramidia is just a land of weakling imps that serves mostly as a fun place and a meeting place, so it doesn't really matter (and Pyramidia doesn't really have a ruler, just the five princes who are more like top managers of the five pyramids), while the three "serious" kingdoms of hell would be then governed by the three avatars of Lucifer, who all share the same mind, which would be insanely cool! XD That'd make him the only monarch who does make sense when referring to himself as "We"
Oh and all of the above was just wild thoughts, I have no idea how many times it made you cringe that I raped your idea like that XD If you feel like keeping your The Prince, The Saboteur and The Devourer untouched, please just press 1. If you find the idea fun and would allow me to use it with all proper credits and links to your site and the page where people can learn about the original idea, press 2. If you want to talk with the operator... wait, wtf am I talking about XD
Oh so it's 15 spiders, I always thought it was "I fave spiders" XD
The quotes are very interesting, it reminded me of some computer RP games where you enter a bar and see a bunch of characters, then when you talk with them, each of them doesn't really talk to you but just tells you some short wisdom that just makes you think "oh yeah damn it, you don't drink your vodka for nothing here, huh?" XD But seriously, it's beautifull and I'm falling more and more in love with your game and universe!!
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Maybe playing final fantasy growing up is what started me thinking about Lucifer and his different forms. And then reading about how "The Devil" is supposed to be some 1,000 ft. blue gelatinous monster in hell that eats powerful souls from earthly sinners made me realize that there should be a Devourer form for the fallen prince. A way I feel he's even more terrifying is you never really see him directly in the game. It's always ominous, or you encounter a follower or a fanatic. You find ancient texts that describe him, etc. But in the 2nd to last game, if you've performed certain secret quests or missions, you can take the Archangel Mikael and have him battle all 3 forms. And oh man, I would love to see you do something like that in your world, just as you are with Tavi. And you're free to mess with him however you want. I don't consider an owner of any of these characters. I'm a channeler
Yeah, I was reading my screenplay for the first game Genesis, but there were only a few quotes that I felt would fit. So I decided to use some more "fancy" one's to give better descriptions of their personalities. I need to add the beast man Shimmragh and the rapey satyr
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Wow, thanks! In my opinion, it's still your idea though! And a good reference to your world, I dunno why but I enjoy having some guest concepts in Yunia XD But then I don't see Yunia as a "My World Copyrighted By Me", just something to draw for and having fun with, and it already has a bunch of concepts from my talks with other people, that's why I really love talking about all these things XD
Well to make it pretty I can change the Devourer to someone who has an insatiable lust, which well describes King Asmodeus, who would be the Devourer avatar, but classically speaking Asmodeus is the demon of lust and debauchery, perhaps a king in the vein of Caligula or... something like that. Except he himself is in quite a great shape, not a ball of fat at all... So he can be "The Devourer" put in brackets XD Or maybe he can physically devour angels XD
Haha, and the Saboteur's ability to shape-shift also would work super well because the kingdom which he would rule is the kingdom of "ghouls" who are fast-regenerating demons, able to regenerate their bodies even if exploded. The regeneration itself "rubs their fur" the right way, meaning to say it's a very pleasant process for them, thus they're quite a masochistic kingdom in the BDSM style XD But if they can regenerate, perhaps they also can shape-shift or at least deform their bodies in weird ways only they can do... And since they're invulnerable, can serve well as ninjas to infiltrate the Heavenly bases and learn the angelic secrets XD
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Yeah, I suppose it is my translation of energy
And yes, as I said, mess with things all you want. I'm excited to see how I might inspire you. Asmodeus sounds pretty amazing. In my game, I've pulled him from the Tarot and he is Leviticus' dark side. He isn't as much about lust and debauchery there, and he is called the Destroyer where Astaroth is called the Devourer. Always interesting to see different takes on things. I shouldn't spoil it, but I will admit that Asmodeus the Destroyer is definitely related to Lucifer. My world just doesn't know that, yet.
I love your ghouls, by the way. They might be my favorite, other than your Mikael and Gabriel angels. Though I love your egyptian imps very much as well. But the ghouls might be my favorite. And for someone who doesn't particularly seek out that type of theme, I have to admire your artistic vision in making such a badass looking Prince for that region.
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Yeah I agree, whenever someone contributes something to my world, willingly or not, I feel like the world gets richer, I mean if all the stuff was 100% from my head alone, it would have been really boring. The same for my art works, most of them are at least based on something that's not from my head and that's what makes it all more interesting, I believe. I think blending other people's ideas with my own is what makes better art.
Yeah I gotta say in my world Asmodeus would also rather be the Destroyer or Slaver or something, his kingdom are more like savage barbarians of the demon world, they often do go to other kingdoms to enslave weaker demons, for both entertainment and work... the Devourer title doesn't seem to match exactly what he is... But I really like the Prince/Devourer/Saboteur triad and that it's a link between our worlds but maybe you're right and I should mess with things a little more... Oh, I just thought what if I use the term "The Ruler" instead of "The Prince" and assign it to Asmodeus who definitely has the inclinations to govern everything and everyone. And then The Devourer would be the one from the ice-demon kingdom of Frostheim, a pretty but skinny young ice-demon (I call them jotuns but don't ask me why XDDD I'd totally have an F+ for mythology), who's always eating tons of ice-creams, lollipops and other stuff that makes you fat, but remains skinny XD He could even wear a small corset from time to time, though that's optional.. I think The Devourer being an insatiable skinny youngster might be an interesting take on that :3 By the way, the jotuns (my ice demons) are depicted here in The Twelve Months as January and December... Perhaps I could even just simply use December's design for The Devourer... It actually would work perfectly because in this one - Baphimancer - Baphomet is talking with Lucifer and Lucifer's contours pretty much match December's, now to think of it XD And the two pieces have a gap of several years between them... Coincidence or fate?
Actually the ghouls' body-piercing theme, I thought it was something original I came up with for my works but apparently people do have an erotic fetish for that and I've seen several videos on youtube where people used video montage techniques to do the fake stabbing of pretty girls with swords and such XD Actually it's pretty hot when you know it's 100% fake and done for fun, but I'm certainly not the one who "prefers the real thing", but I kinda love shocking art and special effects
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I agree even more. My stuff was very lacking years ago before I started meeting people that felt a need to be a part of it. And I've never been happier. And now I'm starting to know when someone can find pleasure in sharing things.
Yes, basically, there is a Destroyer deity in my world that is related to Asmodeus and Lucifer. Could they all be the same entity?
Yeah, I haven't seen it before until finding your art years ago. I don't share the fetish, but I love how you draw that kind of stuff. Then again, I love everything you do, but I have my favorites
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Yeah, I like how you actually phrased it as "meeting people that felt a need to be part of [my art]". I wish every artist saw their watchers and friends this way, as people who are willing to participate (even if it's only comments or other types of support), there would be less selfishness and more productivity. And yeah, I would also be able to do very little alone.
Whoops, I think I confused you, I meant this triad:
1. The Ruler = King Asmodeus, the red-haired muscled demon: Asmodeus
2. The Devourer = the December one from The Twelve Months , always eating ice-creams but staying thin
3. The Saboteur = a ghoul/ninja/bdsm one I've yet to design but I suppose the head can be like in the Map of Inferia in the bottom right corner, perhaps with some influences of Monday from Days of the Week and/or maybe Elven Assassin or something
I think probably, just like Asmodeus, the other two should have names from the classical demonology, too, but I'm not sure which ones yet... Hmm, now to think of it, maybe they shouldn't all be from the Christian mythology, e.g. the Frostheim one (The Devourer) could use some Scandinavian name... but I'll have to look if they have any glutton characters... And the Saboteur one could use something from the Japanese folklore... because ninjas XD But also needs to be something to do with shadows or stealth... On the other hand, since they're all avatars of Lucifer, they should after all have Christianity-derived names...
Oh and I'm super happy that you specially enjoy some parts of my art, maybe I have some tendency to make borderline stuff look more accessible... Because I often get told that people don't like something in real life but they like it in my illustrations.
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Indeed. I'm rarely a fan of artists who have poor personalities. It taints their artistic expressions and I find myself repulsed. I wish everyone could be more communal in all ways.
And I understand the characters, but I called the wrong the Ruler, haha. But yes, I love them all. I think I am most excited to see Devourer and Saboteur though
I really think it's your heart coming through so purely. You aren't filtered and it's super attractive to see that rawness, like an innocent child prodigy spinning gold out of the cosmos
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It's actually funny, I forgot earlier this year I already had found this text that pretty much describes everything about 9 "incarnations" of Lucifer in the world's cultures, including Greece, Egypt, Scandinavia, etc: www.blueroomconsortium.com/pdf…
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Indeed, I feel that Sumerian is probably the source for everything, including humanity, so I tend to trace everything back to there. But I love Egyptian culture, for example, so while deities and planes might not branch too far from either Sumerian or catholic doctrine, my cultures do. And I want to read more in Goetia as well. It's funny, my vision of Loki has him with black hair, but that's mainly because he's more shadow than human and has a darker, opalescent, purply skin tone. I do like the idea of Belial possibly inspiring you with this. I like the white as well.
I love that harakiri Kenshin, haha. I know Japan has some interesting stuff if you really find it, so I look forward to seeing what you pull from there. I love the scandinavian a lot too, though.
Thanks so much for the link. I can't wait to read it
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I've added those three to yuni.us/wiki/Inferia under "Three Faces of Lucifer"
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I'm loving this! Everything looks so great! I love Asmodeus, and I can't wait to see the other two forms
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Yeah I read the deities section on your site, that's where I found Lucifer's description, but yes, they're full of references to everything from Sumerian deities to Lovecraft
Well I tried to search in Goetia and it has exactly two demons related to Lucifer:
PAIMON. - The Ninth Spirit in this Order is Paimon, a Great King, and very obedient unto LUCIFER.
BELIAL. - The Sixty-eighth Spirit is Belial. He is a Mighty and a Powerful King, and was created next after LUCIFER.
Sounds funny because Paimon remotely resembles "pain", while Belial has the Bel part which means "white" in Slavic languages, thus could refer to his snow aspect. But that's just my first try and while Belial is familiar, I've never even heard the name Paimon before... (much like most demons in Goetia tbh)
So might as well keep looking and end up linking to Scandinavian & Japanese cultures, after all.... Just thought about Loki but he's red-headed XD Then, Baldr is THE "White God", the second son of Odin... And Odin "is both the lord of light and the prince of darkness in the ancient Germanic tradition", which pretty much describes Lucifer :/ I will go far, I know... And the only relevant Japanese word I know is Harakiri but that hardly connects to Lucifer at all XD
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You're very welcome. n___n
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Holy snaps. I just remembered I need to dew you that picceh!but noshness but the way.
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I'm working on him. I've just been drawing so much that I haven't gotten back to him.
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Ah I see, well I can't wait to see him all colored the detail is simply amazing on him.
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