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Description Sometimes I just feel like a ghost
Everybody is around me
But only few take the time to listen
I speak up
I even scream and shout
Nobody responds
Nobody hears me
I can hear everything, even your heart beat
One two one two one two
Your blood is racing
If you could open your ears and hear me for a quick moment you might understand

Baby I'm the man
I don't got no bills in my pocket
But I got few loose coins
I wouldn't mind dropping a dime on you
Or maybe five
But baby you don't even know my name
I'd be quick to show you Paris in the night time
But you'll never know me

I'm just that ghost in the corner of the room
Nobody hears my words
I'm lip syncing my own life
I'm doing a horrible job
I should be fired
I tried to quit once but I didn't make it past the front door
I see stuff thats never there
I tried running away but my wings broke and I was caught
I guess I should of kicked and fought for the door
For the next car to drive me far away
Never should of taken mercy
I was just burning to the ground in my own sweat
My momma said we were in debt
I thought we were doing fine
Broker than my imagination

She told me to go to school and get some education
Told me to make something of myself
But after three years of high school
I couldn't take no more
I dropped outta the rat race

I was ready for the school of life
I was on the high road
Ready to make bank n smoke trees
The hell with paying the fees
Tax free was the way to be
It was the way of me

Dodging past the blue n red lights
Ghosting it on the streets
Skipping from street light to street light
This was my life, but now I'm just a ghost
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Comments: 21

tkinney [2011-01-30 01:57:27 +0000 UTC]

It is strange, this thing we call life. I speak to you over similar views, and now I discover a few parrallels in the both of our lives. Very strange indeed.

I dropped out of high school after 3 years. I assumed the life of a drifter, up until recently anyway, when doors that were shut re-opened. I moved back in with my family, got a job, not only that but a job that doesn't drug test. It's funny though, how life works. Before I had a job I had been looking for one for about a year. During that time I hoped I could go to college or something. Art school or something like that. Now I WORK at a college... as a line server in the cafeteria. Heheheh. What's more is it's a college for liberal arts. Ah well, life is good.

Also, my art teacher in high school was also a graffitti artist who used the alias "ghost". All these things mean nothing, I'm sure. Still, it's things like this I find interesting.

Nice work, by the way. I like your style. It's like you can not only paint a picture, but bring it to life. Every moment floats into the next.

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IceFireX In reply to tkinney [2011-01-31 21:48:31 +0000 UTC]

Thanks alot, I wish I could get a job period, i did have college stuff set up but then that screwed me over and i couldn't do that, life is a big mystery as to why stuff happens the way it happens.

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tkinney In reply to IceFireX [2011-02-01 02:30:51 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I got fucked out of college too. Didn't apply for any grants, or loans... Maybe a loan, but nothing that would make a significant enough differance. Then those shit-bag stat-whore college reps kept calling asking "but did you apply for this one, or this one, or this one?"

Life is a mystery. That's why you have to pay attention to the signs, the clues, but don't ask why. That will always mess you up. Instead, simply interpret the signs in relation to you. Eventually you'll find an order amongst all the disorder. It's one of the simplest things about life, yet it's so hard to wrap your mind around... It's almost like a secret... but it's so obvious at the same time...

You think, therefore you are. You are life, therefore life is your every thought. There's a paradox though, because no one can be God, thus everyone's thoughts control the happenings of life. "God" is just the conciousness of the universe, "He" is the only one who really understands the mystery, for He is the mystery in that he is all things. But the last thing you want to think is "why?", because then anything can happen, and it's usually the last thing on your mind before you think "why?!"... then eventually you find yourself asking "why does this keep happening?!" It's also good to stay away from the words/phrases "Son of a BITCH!" "God damnit!" "Fuck me!" etc. Cause you will find that your mother will bitch at you sooner or later afterwards, God will always damn you, and you don't even wanna know about the last, heh.

I'm no guru or anything, and I don't want to sound condesending. No, nothing like that. Like I said, I see a few parrallels, and if they are so then maybe this little bit of knowledge could come in handy. Oh, and remember, there is no right or wrong way, there is simply the truth, and the lies. However, you must realize the truth is interpreted differently through different people. It's just a difference in terminology. Athiests, Muslims, Christians,Jews, whatever, it's all the same... It's all about LIFE! The universe, science, technology; God, prophecy, everything under the sun; scientists, teachers, preachers, prophets. They ARE all the same in a sense, as they are relavent to everyone and eachother, even when people think it's irrelevent. It's a matter of opinion, of faith, of rationality, and creativity.

It's life, the Grandest Mystery; And everyone will eventually know in due time just what it means, even if time and space become void... For in that void, we will see what we've been missing the whole time.

...

Sorry for all these long replies. You just remind me of my friends is all.

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IceFireX In reply to tkinney [2011-02-01 14:32:26 +0000 UTC]

Your the first person who has explained god like that, everybody says hes this white man or black man, praise him ect ect, but your way sounds good, even though I don't believe, but there is a good point behind your view, like my signature text.

Everybody is equal, our thoughts may be different, we look different, act different, but everybody is just a body bound by skin and color, if we were just souls walking around, floating around, if you've ever seen the movie cold souls, it really gets you thinking, and everybody soul is different, and if you lose sight in your soul then you must be reborn with it.

if time was nothing and days were just day and night no name, the world would be at peace, no rush, no nothing, just the end of a joint burning slowly.

It's all good, I enjoy reading your thoughts, your a interesting guy.

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tkinney In reply to IceFireX [2011-02-03 18:34:28 +0000 UTC]

Heh, thanks. Yeah, I was raised Christian, but it didn't feel right. The ideals preached didn't mesh with the general attitude. There's always a hypocrite in the congregation, and you discover more of them everyday. So, yeah. Caused more problems than solutions in my youth; Less clarity, and more confusion. So I said, fuck. There's alot of truth here, but it's all wrong. There's truth there too, but it's all wrong. If it wasn't, then people would adhere to the doctrine preached. So my beliefs are basically bits and pieces I borrowed from all the religion I've ever encountered and pieced together in a way that works for me...

Also, about the mind over matter thing; Thoughts control the universe and whatnot... Either disregard it all together, or take it into consideration with extreme caution... cause once you start thinking that way it can be dangerous when you lose contol of your thoughts. I made the mistake of revealing information that has to do with enlightenment, but you're never supposed to hasten one's enlightenment; you're not supposed to show them what roads are straight, and which one's are winding. They have to discover it themselves.

I say this because of the examples I used to describe what I meant, and I assure you, I got fucked, I was damned, and my mother bitched at me, heh. This blizzard rolled through Texas not too long ago, and atleast a quarter of the country is covered in snow. I got fucked in that I ran my car into a ditch, and hit a tree sliding off an icy road. I got damned, as my step-father over reacted and gave me 2 weeks to leave the house, no vehicle, no shelter, no luck. My mother naturally over-reacted too, and bitched me out at such an intensity that she instilled a new level of fear in me. So yeah. I appologize.

And yes, you're absolutely right. If we would just treat everyday as if it were the first day, we'd have nothing to worry about. We wouldn't measure time, we wouldn't number the days, and everything else you said. We'd be more in tune with Mother Earth, because instead of "scheduling" the changing of the seasons, we'd be more aware of the signs, rather than the time we expect it to come. We'd probably be more appreciative of the little things, such as a joint, by the day; and by night, we'd become star-gazers, noting every motion of our celestial surroundings. The Native Australians had such a way of life before the modern world came in. Native Americans were similar in lifestyle, but there's always differences here and there. The similarity, though, is in that the white man[lol, I'm white, but part Native American too. I contridict myself, in a way. xP] stepped in started running the show, nearly whiping out all the tribes and their peoples.

Such things are fantasy now, unfortunately. Our only hope is that 2012 brings back that sort of lifestyle, after all the catastrophe of course. I think it will be significant, just looking at the signs. The "world" basically started in Egypt, or atleast in the general vicinity. Now Egypt is on the brink of a civil war because there is a revolution taking place causing tension and violence and chaos. Not only that, but the middle east is still full of radicals against the ideals of the West. Who could blame them really, I mean the West is a corrupt and contagious industialized machine that fuels jealousy, greed, lust, basically all 7 of the deadly sins, not only that but it grows with our temptation. The 'man' is every rich person who makes money off of our temptations. For example, we buy into gluttony everytime we eat a little debbie snack, or roll through the drive-thru of a taco bell, or mcdonalds. We buy into lust everytime we visit a strip club; and buy into greed everytime we walk into a casino. The list goes on and on. Still, the radicals are flawed in that their violent, and volotile in their solutions.

Anyhow, I need to stop all this typing. Heh.

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IceFireX In reply to tkinney [2011-02-06 17:38:30 +0000 UTC]

the last paragraph is very true, people do buy into everything that is marketed or something they think they should do, like every guy thinks they should go to a strip club, in my opinion whores work at strip clubs, if I wanted to look at whores get naked I could do that online lol. Another thing is the football games and stuff, the superbowl, we spend millions upon millions of dollars for it, when that money could be going to helping save our economy. we feed our farm animals roughly 720 million peices of grain a year or day i forget which one it was and that could feed the malnourished countries around the world for 11 years straight. We do not spend out money correctly at all, it saddens me that this is what we are coming to, the rich prosper because they can buy everything, while the poor live miserable lives, the middle class is basically disappearing because everything is getting so expensive, its like there is no hope for humanity and nobody is seeing how much things we could do to improve our economy and there all so simple, but nobody sees it or wants to listen. America needs to listen to its people, but they don't. we are "free" but we really are enslaved to our own values and life style of needing what is popular and what is brand new and getting the best of everything, when it really is not needed. we spend trillions on oil a year, we dont need oil, there are other means of fuel, from hemp oil(which the first car ran off hemp fuel, why they don't redo that now is beyond me, itd be so cheap and we could make a ton of money) corn oil, electric, so many different ways and less dangerous ways, but nothing, nothing is gonna change because we cant see eye to eye on anything that is good for the nation, its been the same the last 100 years and there is just nothing we can do.

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tkinney In reply to IceFireX [2011-02-07 15:01:42 +0000 UTC]

I'd argue that it's more than 720 mil a day, but you're absolutely right. And it's fucked up, they'll judge people like you and me for smoking pot; say we're addicted. But they are the one's who'll end EVERY day infront of a telivision, watching a show that really doesn't matter... presumably to avoid thinking about their problems, let alone the problems of the world. In the process, it seems the tv reprograms the mind, especially the young mind, in such a way they are no longer themselves. My kid sister for example. That show skins was on, I think it got taken off the air after a while... But now all the little girls in EIGHTH grade, 8th, are talking about all sorts of shit, like giving head and you're a loser in high school if you don't fuck. That's real fucked up. Now it's real hard trying to protect her, and it was hard enough when all there was to it was her thick stubborn head. Now I have to try and convince her somehow that what they are saying is not true, because that may be the environment in high school, but when you get out you're still a whore... just in a different way. Instead of wanting money, you want noteriety. My brother is addicted to the xbox. I mean, I'll play it here and there, but I know there's more important things in life. There's a time to play, and there's a time to when the playing can wait, for more important things are at hand. Still, he plays xbox live hours and hours at time. My mother could be screaming "FIIIIRE!!!! EVERY BODY OUT OF THE HOUSE!!" and he'd say "Mom! I'm in the middle of a match, can't it wait?!"

I feel like the middle class is disappearing too. There is nothing we can do, but that's the beauty of it. Even though there's not a thing we can do, we can atleast watch. The working class is the foundation of America, the foundation of the world. Once that's dissolved, what's gonna stop the structure from collapsing? I'll tell you, all the money in the world wont stop that; that's what those rich fucks don't get. I can see it now. "What, you rich bitch? An apology check? Good luck with that. I don't think the earth will take checks, or cash, or gold. She responds well to love, but she hates you now, fuckin moron." After we've done all we can, it will be doing nothing that brings it all down...

But yeah. It drives me crazy thinking about all this, and it seems nobody understands. As if it will just continue on forever in this way. I try and divert that extra energy into setting a good example though, doing the right thing. I think it's the only thing keeping me sane at this point...

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IceFireX In reply to tkinney [2011-02-09 18:04:57 +0000 UTC]

Yes that show skins, I've been watching the uk version lately, it's good for an audience of adults, not something for children, its too crude for anybody under atleast 15, and the girls on the show are whores, any girl in the right mind should know sex doesnt make you cool, sure it can make you popular, all the guys wanna hang out with you for one simple thing, because your easy and they just want their dick wet for a quick min and then youll be nothing to them. But these girls now adays don't realize that, they don't think virginity is important, they think that the quicker they lose it the cooler they will be the better friends they will have, but its not true at all, real men, the ones that are decent, don't think you not being a virgin is cool, it means your most likely a slut, it bothers me so much, most chicks i meet are totally out of their minds when it comes to stuff like that.

mtv is a channel that really needs to be banned, it was good in the 80s-90s not that i was alive in the 80s lol, but im pretty sure they just played music videos, i grew up basically watched music videos in my spare time on mtv and fuse tv, now mtv is all reality tv full of sex and pregnancy, teen moms is a stupid show that basically encourages teens to get pregnant to wanna get on that show, its sad really. It's named music television for a reason, now reality tv or the whore channel. I was mostly always outside as a little kid, listening to my music and walking through the woods with my dog, kids now adays have it too easy, everything comes to easy for them, technology has made it so they dont have to do hardly anything for themselves.

I won't allow my kid to watch disney or nickelodeon, all the shows seem like there for retarded children, and I definitely don't want my kid learning spanish before english, we live in america for a reason and its not to turn on the tv and have them trying to brainwash our kids into speaking spanish, we need to make our national language english.

And then inflation really drives me mad, like why is there inflation if things were 50 cents for a glass bottle of ketchup in the fiftys then why would 60 years later they be 5 bucks for a plastic bottle of ketchup, like nothing has changed, plastic is cheaper to make, it really drives me up the wall, the money now adays makes no sense, like so much shit has changed, and for the worse, technology is great, but sometimes its really bad. I think thats why everything has went up in price because nothing is hand made anymore, everything is the same, except we advanced our technology, then everything went up in price. Yeah xbox is fun for a few hours, but sometimes you gotta give it a break, breathe in the fresh air, smoke some dope, and go for a walk or something.

One thing that really skeeves me is how all natural things are more expensive, like if it comes from the earth and it can grow back easily, why is it more expensive than something man made, i just dont get it.

I understand where your coming from fully, nobody understands or listens, we know where right, im sure hundreds of people would agree, we need make a full on stand in hemp products and delete importing and open up factories and new jobs in america to make things for ourselves, american business men have businesses in india and stuff, that should not be allowed, its not right, if you are american hire americans, don't go the cheap way and make foreigners do it, sure they need jobs, but not by us, there in another country for a reason.

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tkinney In reply to IceFireX [2011-02-10 13:25:31 +0000 UTC]

I agree with you for the most part. I do think our nation's language should be English, it was founded by the English. I think there should be a way you can learn other languages for free though, if you decided to be interested in such a thing. All around the world learn the languages of their region for free; they're born there, they pick up on it, free. Then you have shit like Rosetta Stone that cost a fortune just so you can learn different languages. I only know English, very little Spanish, but I'd like to pick up on some of the more common languages around the world. I just can't afford it. Yeah, you can take Spanish or French or whatever in high school, but nobody takes it serious enough. I took two years of Spanish. I only know a handful of phrases. That's bullshit. It was a requirement, why the fuck did they waste my time for a handful of bullshit?! The world may never know.

Anyhow, sorry about that. I went to the doctor a couple days ago for my back pain, he prescibed these muscle relaxers. Kinda messing with my head. I get irritated...

I've wondered lately what the world would be like if we used psycoactive substances a currency instead of money and gold. The values would always remain the same, as it grows from the earth, and can be reproduced any time. Say coffee is like a dollar, tobacco like five dollars, cannabis is ten, poppies are twenty, and so on. Salvia, Ayahuasca, fly agarics and magic mushrooms would all be the most desireable, as we'd understand their use as "plant teachers"; Hard to control visions that teach us about ourselves in relation to everything else, planetary, galactic, and universal alike. That'd be a trip, right? I'd love to live in that world. Of course, we'd have to weed out the synthetic shit, like amphetamines, and all the refined shit that's highly addictive, like crack, heroin, etc.

I hate how America out-sources all their business to foreign countries. You're absolutely right. They need a job in their country, for their country. Not in their country, for our country. Besides, we're giving our wealth to them little by little. We already do that with drugs; we keep drugs illegal that's what we get. A sizable portion of all our money spent on illegal drugs goes to other countries, like the Cartels in Mexico. I mean, it seemed like everyone was surprised we got hit with recession. It's not like we couldn't see it coming; it's just nobody bothered to look. The only folks that didn't look surprised were the ones who knew they'd get a huge bailout.

There's gotta be some way we can organize like minds and make change. This is the internet age for Christ's sake. We have the means necessary to reach out to the whole world. DeviantArt is limited, I think if people like us were to organize and make a difference, it'd have to be all over the board. As much as I hate social networks[except dA, heh], it'd probably be the best bet. Get on every one of them, link to all of them. Site's like this one and Newgrounds could help too, making artwork, or animations about the cause. Youtube even. I wonder if there isn't something like that in place already...

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IceFireX In reply to tkinney [2011-02-10 18:21:02 +0000 UTC]

Yeah high school languages are bullshit, you can get rosetta for free pretty easily online in torrents.

what kinda muscle relaxers are you on, you should of just smoked some bud and used that at a muscle relaxer load up on some indica.

that would be crazy for currency, but very interesting, we'd definitely have to get rid of tobacco though, or ban nicotine from tobacco, that would expand the life expectancy.

The big cartels are in the big cities, which is why its good to live in places that arent so much big you do end up supporting the little man. thats also true in like big chain stores with prices you really cant compete with. Headshops will always have a true homey feel except the online competition is stiff, but still always interesting stuff in them.

there are some places like you are talking about, like a420nation.com norml.com you just gonna link stuff up or something.

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tkinney In reply to IceFireX [2011-02-11 16:10:05 +0000 UTC]

I didn't have bud at the time, it's been harder and harder to find lately round these parts. I had to travel 40 miles and back just to get some, and it was $80 an oz. Got it 2 days ago, 1 day after going to the doctor. I used to be able to get a QP for $160, which made it like $40 an oz. I used to be able to get hydro for $200 an oz, which was good cause around here it goes for $15-$25 a gram, depending on who you sold it to. There's no more deals like that anymore though...

The muscle relaxer is Flexeril, and it works fine for when I don't have bud. I just have to take one, as I'm sensitive to any drug, it seems. It actually makes me feel high, but I get irritable and scatterbrained as I come down.

Tobacco isn't bad. The way we use it is, we smoke like a freight train(generally speaking). There was a time, not too long ago in the history of our country, where tobacco was used in extreme moderation. Like a couple cigarettes a week, maybe more. Now it's like a pack a day. Heh, crazy. The reason cigarettes are worse than pot is the nicotine in combination with all that nasty tar, as well as the extra chemicals they add nowadays. The nicotine constricts the lungs, making it harder to cough and breathe, while the tar sticks to the lining and paralyzes the tiny little hair-like fibers that would usually move mucus up and out. Tar stays trapped, lungs get nasty, eventually you wind up with cancer or emphysema if your habits don't change.

Pot, on the other hand, supposedly has more tar, but it also has THC and other cannaboids which act in many ways. The THC helps your body repair damaged cells as well as expanding your lungs, making it easier to cough and breathe. That's why you cough up more shit smoking pot than you would smoking cigarettes. Of course pot does many other things, and I'm sure you already know; I was just talking in terms of pot vs. tobacco.

I think if one were to smoke A cigarette every once in a while, and A LOT of pot, they'd be fine. But, I'll admit. I've gotten to where I smoke at least a half a pack a day, and in combination with pot at that frequency[smoking more tobacco than I do pot], it's probably like 77 times worse than smoking pot alone. Probably like 7 times worse than smoking cigarettes alone. I like the number 7 by the way, eheh. Not like it's a real statistic, but it seems harmonious to me for some reason. 7 days in a week, 7 continents, the bible constantly talks about 7, 7 leaflets on the pot leaf, etc.

Anyhow, I'm running out of time, gotta run to work.

Peace.

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IceFireX In reply to tkinney [2011-02-12 15:47:59 +0000 UTC]

80 an oz omg thats sooo cheap, lol, wish I had those prices, I could actually make some decent money for a change. Sucks not having a job and like after you apply everywhere for every kind of job at the end of the day you just wanna say fuck it and give up and just who knows.


Thats why you gotta smoke the indian tobacco, I don't smoke myself, i use to, but i had to brush my teeth everytime I smoked a cig, it was just a nasty flavor I just liked the head high, then when it stopped i stopped. But the american spirits are just straight tobacco, if we banned all other smokes until they turned poison free, if thc was legal i think if nicotine was banned they would add little amounts like 3% thc to each smoke for the little heady to make you wanna still smoke.

pot leaves are all different, some stick with less than 7 also depends on the plant though. I think they stuck with 7 continents because they though it was lucky, lol, but obviously mother nature is not agreeing. But that is weird 7 everything, numbers are life, even if you dont know it.

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tkinney In reply to IceFireX [2011-02-17 02:34:42 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, but you also gotta figure in the location and general quality. Texas borders Mexico, therefore drugs, more specifically pot, is cheaper. Plus, the regi here is either brick weed, dirt weed, or mostly seeds and a little weed... So, 80 for an oz of that is pretty expensive. I used to get it for 40 if that tells you anything. Of course there's higher quality stuff too, popcorn[pre-mature hydro, basically] goes for 5 a g, hydro for 10-20 a g, and cush for some reason is always 20-25 a g.

The best I've had though was some stuff I got for about 7 a g. Home-grown from Oklahoma, lime green, thick with bright orange hairs, and completely covered in tricromes. The contrast between the bright lime green and orange and the thick coat of tricromes gave it sort of a fluorescent glow. Not a single seed to be found; and I went through about a pound or so of that selling it for the free smoke. It was a creeper, you'd smoke a bowl, cuss cause you thought that was bullshit, load another bowl, set it down and forget about it cause by that time you're fucking stoned out of your mind! Heh. It was actually better than some of the dro and cush I've tried from around here.

Yeah, I know. I've seen plants with 5, some with 9 even. The seven-"fingered" leaf is the most notorious though, maybe cause it's between 5 and 9, heh, I dunno. But yeah, 7. There's also the 7 seas. Lucky number 7 and what-not. I think 7's just a mysterious number; But it's my favorite. That, and 3, 13, 21, 23, 33, and 1111. Ha, I don't even know why I like numbers so much. They actually make me feel different; I can't stand the number 6, for example. 1 makes me feel lonely >_<. 2 makes me happy, and with 3, I feel blessed. But 7; 7 makes me feel like God is watching, that my grandmother, and her mother, my whole family who's passed, makes me feel like they're all watching. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but it's all my fault, no matter what. Makes me want to do my best to make things right, do my best to do good; more so for others than of myself. It also has something to do with my grandfather's "secret" work. He did all this stuff with numbers, figuring this and that with something he called "base 7". Never figured any of it out. But it looks like the work of a genius. Either that or a mad-man. It's not just a piece of paper, or a notebook even. It's like a whole fuckin' library; a library with nothing but notebooks filled front-page and back with numbers, scribbles, phrases, and somehow this all equated to his philosophy of life. Maybe someday I'll figure it out.

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IceFireX In reply to tkinney [2011-02-17 21:45:31 +0000 UTC]

I bet a lot of people buy the mexican swag and try to turn it around and sell it to make a hefty profit. 80 an oz flip it into 8 eighths whopping profit for 30 a pop or even 25 an 8th.
around here is just basic, nothing special, I hate it, I want a dealer that will be like bam here is northern lights, some afghan kush, blueberry haze, blackberry kush, tuity fruity, chemdawg, you know the biz lol, sadly here its just like 30 an 8th of just weed no name, but whatever keeps you medicated, I need to get a card real bad.

That sounds like some good oklahoma bud, I harvested my plants a couple months back got a good 5 oz's best bud ive smoked in forever, atleast since i smoked my uncles weed, he use to grow before he passed, and his stuff was amazing. I love smoking the weed that I've harvested though, its like using something you've created its something more special about it, and then when you share it with somebody and they love it, thats something right there.

Very interesting view on numbers and life, I wonder why they gave the devil three sixes.

Wow that seems like some crazy work your grandfather did, have you ever looked at it with somebody to see if another mind can figure it out or not?

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tkinney In reply to IceFireX [2011-02-18 03:53:33 +0000 UTC]

Nah, the problem is he kept it relatively secret. I mean, we all knew he was using those numbers for something, and we'd see the piles and piles of notebooks accumulate over the years. There's probably countless notebooks that are lost forever, he'd been doing it all his life; well basically. 40 or 50 years anyway. But an explanation is yet to be found anywhere in the notebooks. I just remember my grandmother talking about "base 7", and that he was trying to use the numbers to predict various happenings in life. He'd watch a lot of ball games and stuff too, not so much in interest of the sport, he wasn't so much of an athlete. He was a thinker, and I think he watched the ball games and played around with the stats and vs his predictions. There were a few papers I found that he wrote right out of college. It basically said he had a folded cloth on the ground before him, and he'd roll the dice on that cloth and attempt to make his predictions come true; He believed there was a deep connection with the mind, God, and life itself, and that if you were of God, used your mind with pure intention you could make changes happen in your life with just a thought. So he used the dice as an experiment, trying to see a correlation with his thoughts and the numbers he rolled. He'd think 5 and 3, for example. He'd write this down, roll the dice, and compare the numbers on the dice to his predictions. He talked about how he'd get to where he got it right 53% of the time, but then once he felt like he was in complete control, rolling the dice back to back and proving his predictions to be true, he'd get one wrong, get another, and another, and so on until he'd get so frustrated and quit all together for months at a time. He'd pick it back up, and the same trend continued for all his life.

I didn't know all that until he died though. It's funny, cause I was really interested in that sort of stuff. I'd have loved to talked with him about it. Never got a chance to. Talked to my grandma, but she didn't know much more than anyone else. Now she's passed too, and it'll probably be something that will take a while to figure out.

I dunno why they gave the Devil 6. I'm sure there's some reason, but I like to look at it like 7 is the number of Heaven; God put an emphasis on 7 for some reason or another, not just in Christianity either. 6 us the number before 7, and you can divide it evenly however you want, but no matter what, it's still one short of 7. God also put an emphasis on asymmetry, imperfection; as if to say there's no such thing as perfection, perfection is just an idea. Things are simply the way they are; the way they need to be at the time, given the turn of events, and in knowing that, you believe that things ARE perfect... just the way they are. I remember a few parts in the Bible, it always tells of altars being built, but God instructed them to only use natural stones, nothing carved, no bricks, just natural rocks. Imperfection is pure in the eyes of God, so that makes the imperfection perfect; it's what I take from it anyway. There is no perfection, the only perfection we have is in imperfection, and it's perfect because it's all that we need...

Sorry for the redundancy, I've kinda been thinking like that lately. Paradoxical thoughts; seem contradictory, but there's also a shining truth at the center of it all. Reading the Bible, it seems so absurd. Reading some of the stories from various religion. I used to not believe in God, looking at all these contradictions, but now I see that the contradiction is necessary; it creates the idea of faith. Yeah, it seems ridiculous, a snake with arms spoke to Eve, convincing her with his devious tongue to eat the forbidding fruit. At the same time, it could be so ridiculous that it's true. God is a mystery that the human being can not understand. He exist in a realm outside of our reach, on a level we can not even see, in eternity where we can't possibly comprehend, for we're bound by the laws of time and space. We relate ourselves to our environment, hard as a rock, fluid like the waters of the seven seas. You can't get anything by me, I've got eyes like a hawk, that sort of thing.

If something similar to what the Bible explains actually happened, then of course that would be the only way it could be explained. Like Noah and his Ark. There's no way you could fit all the animals in the world-let alone a pair of each of them-inside the specifications God instructed Noah to follow concerning the construction of the Ark. It makes the idea ridiculous to think of it that way, and you throw it out the window. But, if you don't throw it out the window, and instead think "hmm.... we have the ability clone animals, as well as preserve the genes of various species of plants and animals in small vials, not much bigger than my pinkie finger. This is all recently developed tech to our race... so if another race, a race of celestial beings perhaps, had this tech in Biblical times, and shared it with ours... how would they explain this to the rest of the world...?" Well, Noah's Ark. That's how they did explain it. Everyone could relate, the story was told relative to our world. They never found the Ark, I don't think. They did, however, find a whole mess of cities underwater in the Mediterranean sea I think. The city was dated back to the Biblical times, around the time the Bible says the story of Noah's Ark took place. Back then, they didn't know much of the world, they didn't even realize the America's existed across the seemingly endless ocean, the majority believed the world was only as big as the land they inhabited at the time. The Mediterranean was a lot smaller back then, significantly it seems, when you think about all the cities under water. So, when you think "Oh, so Noah's Ark was just a big boat that protected Noah, his family, sacrificial animals, genetic information through tech shared by the celestial visitors, or 'angels from heaven', and whatever else. The whole world didn't flood after all, it was simply a flood of everything we believed to be the world at the time. If this is the case, then the story must be true." well, it becomes a little more relevant to our time, as we have similar technologies now... But it could also be said that all this is just a subliminal experiment, a self-fulfilling prophecy we prophesied of ourselves, for ourselves, as a whole divided into individuality yet united as a collective in various religious text in such a way it is not bound by time, or space, or anything other than our interpretation of it, and how it all unfolds. That's an earful though, so it's easier to think "Hell, it could be true, or it could be a lie. So what do I believe?! Should I believe?" And that's where your faith comes in.

Personally, I think the trick to truly believe in God is to surpass the difference in various religion, surpass the division, the interpretations of the hypocrites, just surpass everything but yourself at attention to the Idea of God. Then you can unfold your own interpretation, develop a belief strong and true to yourself. Doesn't have to be named God either, or Allah, or whatever else. God is just easier to say for me. When I say God, I mean the Universe as a whole, every animate and inanimate object, living and dead alike, with the Idea of God at the center of it all, just outside of time and encompassed by such a shining truth it can only exist in an unreachable place, outside of space; yet inside, at the dead center of everything... See, a truth like that has to be a mystery, cause it could be far to dangerous to reveal it to our level of existence. A truth like that could destroy the world, could deconstruct the Idea of God and cause existence itself... to cease... But I only say it like that, cause it's the only way I can understand it to be true through my mind...

I wandered off there. But yeah. I can only imagine how it feels to smoke your own home grown bud. Let alone share it with a friend. I think I felt "higher" just growing the few plants I tried to grow. Not literally; it just felt amazing to grow it. I dunno how to explain, but I'm sure you know. It about tore me apart all the times I'd grow it and then BAM. some happening happens that forces me to destroy my plant. The first time it was my ma, ahaha. She was going to weed eat around the place I had a plant growing. I tried to transplant it, but I did it so hastily the shock killed it. Felt as bad destroying it as it felt good growing it; but 7 times worse. Ahaha. Yeah. The second time I had a hermaphrodite. xS I said "FUCK ME!" and just before I ripped it outta the soil it laughed, and said "Well, if you were like me, you could just go fuck yourself... fuckin' prick." Then I said "STFU, HE-BITCH!" harvested the little fucker and tried to make some hash, then fucked it up. I was living at my friends house at the time, and his mother came home from work and fuck if I didn't throw it all out...

Damn. When I ramble on like this I start to think I'd be better of with half a brain. Might even be twice as smart; only in my rationality, or my creativity, but not both of course. That would also make me twice as dumb though, so I guess I'm best off as is.

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IceFireX In reply to tkinney [2011-02-22 15:56:51 +0000 UTC]

Every single girl in america needs to know that there never gonna be perfect and that the imperfections make them who they are, make up is just a fake face they put on to stand being in public, plastic surgery, its all bad, I mean its good for the people who actually need it, burn victions, cleft people, ect. ect.

The noahs ark, is pretty difficult to believe, taking two of every single animal in the world, nobody had the resources of collecting all the animals, I mean thats a big ass boat and a hell of a lot of animals in which back then they didn't have much stuff to catch the animals, especially by himself, that would be pretty drastic trying to catch a lion with technology back then without getting hurt or killed.

lol, parents are a bitch if they aren't kind with the herb, my mum smokes weed so she is cool with growing and everything. I know the feeling you mean, to grow herb, the plants themselves are so beautiful, like its really incredible how they form and grow and so quickly, the fruits of labor are vast and lovely, no other plant makes you feel like this, I also have a giant vegetable garden, I wish my grow room was as big as my vegetable garden, but space restrictions apply. Vegetables are easy to grow and idk it just doesnt feel the same.

yeah you can write alot lol

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Koeskull [2011-01-27 00:41:01 +0000 UTC]

I agree, a little depressing also.

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IceFireX In reply to Koeskull [2011-01-27 01:40:22 +0000 UTC]

eh, I guess a little.

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Koeskull In reply to IceFireX [2011-01-27 02:23:46 +0000 UTC]

Well I'm emotional lol.

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LovingLivingLife [2011-01-27 00:16:35 +0000 UTC]

Excuse my French but: That's fucking awesome shit, mate!

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IceFireX In reply to LovingLivingLife [2011-01-27 01:40:07 +0000 UTC]

Thanx alot your french is highly welcome

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