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(The Lion King 2: Zira’s Pride?)
A ReverseDisney drawing based on FablePaint ’s idea of the reverse first Lion King (check it out, it’s awesome!). This is my version of reversed Lion King 2 – my favorite Disney movie. Though reversing the roles is harder with this movie because the characters are already so morally ambiguous. I’m also not sure how the reversed version of the first movie is supposed to end, so I’ll just focus on the second movie alone while drawing somewhat from that version
Zira is the leader of a group of lionesses who supported Scar and his idea of fairness, and for that, they were exiled from Simba’s pride to the barren Outlands. Zira, a capable leader and a caring, but strict mother, plans to end Simba’s tyrannical reign with the help of her son, Kovu. She wants Kovu, chosen by Scar as his successor in his mission, to be a ‘lion ambassador’ of sorts to other animals to convince them that there are lions who don’t support Simba’s exploitation of the rest of the animals in the Pridelands. He is supposed to convince them that they should all, collectively, confront Simba to make him change his policies or resign. However, that is not easy, because Simba’s regime spreads a lot of anti-Scar propaganda, fearmongering, and slander about the Outsiders. As a result, everyone in the kingdom believes that the Outsiders are the enemy and they are the ones who only seek to exploit them behind their benevolent façade.
Simba, meanwhile, has a cub named Kiara, who he raises to rule with an iron fist as the future Queen. One day during her hunt, she notices Kovu trying to talk a herd of zebra into supporting his cause. The sly Kiara realizes what kind of danger he is, and one day ‘saves’ Kovu during a ‘sudden’ wildfire set up by her father’s henchmen while Kovu approaches another animal group in the Pridelands. Kovu soon becomes infatuated with the beautiful Kiara, and she convinces him that his mother is only using him, but she cares about him for who he is.
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In this version, hyenas lost all hope and left, the Outsiders taking their place as political outcasts.
Zira has a bad reputation for being brash and aggressive sometimes, though rumors about her cruelty were exaggerated by Simba. She cares deeply about her children, but her focus on finishing Scar’s life mission makes them feel less important to her.
Nuka is a caring and protective older brother, though he is somewhat simple and naïve. Due to being the oldest and expected to act as such, he gets less attention than his siblings, which only makes him believe he should be more supportive of them. Nuka’s fatal flaw is that he always puts others’ needs before his own. (Also, Nuka collects flowers).
Vitani is Zira’s second-in-command. She is tough and rational. She feels suspicious of Kiara, however good-looking she may find her, and doubts Kovu’s loyalties. Nevertheless, she always tries to find a non-violent solution.
Kiara eventually sees the fault in her father’s leadership, and together with Kovu, they manage to gather the other animals to confront Simba. However, one of the groups of animals betrays them and attacks Kiara.
Simba, despite being a cruel tyrant to his subjects, is a loving father to his daughter, and saves Kiara when she’s in danger, risking his life even though she defied him.
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The background for the Outlands is based on official Disney’s concept art for the Outlands during the day.
Sorry if there are mistakes, English is not my first language.
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Comments: 31
RosetheCuteLioness [2022-10-16 22:58:46 +0000 UTC]
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iceflowerglow In reply to RosetheCuteLioness [2022-10-17 01:46:30 +0000 UTC]
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roikovu2 [2020-10-20 21:16:03 +0000 UTC]
Can I take this art for my Instagram account
I go to credit you
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Jeana1 [2020-09-15 00:20:45 +0000 UTC]
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Vtoony [2018-07-20 04:18:04 +0000 UTC]
Your artwork is just as magnificent as always and I absolutely adore this concept you've created. I'm the type of person that simply cannot get enough of AU's or what-if scenarios. I thought about your Reverse Simba's Pride for sometime and I came to realize that this actually might been an actual possibility. Think about it, Simba lost his father and was separated from his pride at a very young age, meaning he had a life devoid of many social experiences and lessons that would've otherwise groomed him to be an effective, just leader. In your AU, it is possible for Simba to rule by fear-mongering and propagandizing since due to his lack of social/leadership skills, without it, the other animals would discover is incapability to lead and rule them. Thus it makes sense that in the end the animals, fed up and now aware with his tyrannical rule, turn on him, yet even in this time of betrayal, he soon realizes what is still right and goes to save his daughter.
Revers Kiara is also an interesting contrast to her counterpart, perhaps due in part that in this concept, she is essentially playing the role Kovu has in the original. Think about it, sly, cunning, manipulative, goal is to sneak in and gain trust while scheming to take her enemy down, only to be changed by them in the end. I really do enjoy this alternate version of her.
As for the Outlanders, since there wasn't much to go off from the first film of them, it's honestly one of the more drastic changes to this AU, though not to say it's not at all a bad idea. I love the more good versions of the Outlanders, from Zira being a more strict, yet still loving mother, to Nuka being a naive, yet supporting older brother, and Vitani being a no-nonsense, rational, and concern sister. Had they possibly been placed in a more loving environment, they might have been like this in the film, and it sure would've made for a more complex and deep story plot, yet as mentioned before, we don't know since their appearance int eh second film is more of a shoehorned plot, even if we still love them to pieces.
It is my sincerest wish that potential scenes of this AU come up in the future. I would love to see exploration pieces of this very interesting concept int he future.
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iceflowerglow In reply to Vtoony [2018-07-21 16:28:02 +0000 UTC]
I’m glad you like this version! With Simba’s characterization here, I followed FablePaint’s idea for the reverse first movie somewhat, but your explanation also works great! He indeed had no one to teach him after he returned (apart from Sarabi and maybe Zazu to an extent, but they could only help so much). So being inexperienced, he decided that the best way to keep his kingdom from going into chaos was through fear, especially against a common enemy (the Outsiders). And it makes sense that he taught his daughter to rule the same way, not knowing any better.
Kiara here is a lot more confident, in part because that was what her father raised her to be, otherwise the kingdom would fall apart under her rule. She notices Kovu and quickly assesses the situation on her own, realizing that he’s a threat.
I’m a big TLK2 fan and I think the movie was very good the way it was (I can see why some lionesses would still support Scar, especially if their situation became much better after they joined him, and then Simba exiled them – I believe it’s a very realistic turn of events, and I’m glad the movie went this route). But in my reverse version, the Outsiders follow Scar’s policy of equality (basically his ‘peace between lions and hyenas’ rhetoric was genuine in this version), and were exiled by Simba for what he thought was challenging his authority. I’m afraid this version here reduces their complexity somewhat, but I imagine Zira’s strictness, though stemming from a survival tactic in the Outlands, would sometimes still go overboard. Like with Nuka, I believe she would be very hard on him given that he’s the oldest and supposed to look after his siblings – but he’s weak and in bad health and can’t live up to her expectations, so she’s constantly frustrated with him. She wouldn’t hit him like she did in the movie of course, but her attitude messes him up all the same. Nuka’s characterization here is blander than in the movie, but his low self-worth is still here, and is still a flaw (also, his naivety – he believes Kiara when she’s not yet reformed). Vitani is pretty close to her movie version, I’d say.
I like to imagine what some of the songs would be in this version, like ‘Upendi’ would be a villain song sang by Kiara to (and with) Kovu, where she’s trying to convince him that his mother doesn’t really love him or his siblings, but she (Kiara) loves him for who he is. And during the song, Kovu first argues with Kiara, then expresses his doubts, and then becomes angrier and angrier with his mother because he sees the ‘truth’ in Kiara’s words. (Rafiki would probably also be a ‘villain’ in this version, like – he knows that Simba is the rightful king and it should stay that way, and supports the idea of ‘peace, no matter the cost’ and helps Kiara).
Now that I think about it, I might draw something else (maybe even a small animation) for this AU, if I find the time!
And thank you so much for this comment.
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Vtoony In reply to iceflowerglow [2018-07-23 05:10:48 +0000 UTC]
I do like the idea of Scar having some notable qualities that aren't as evil as he is portrayed in the film. I mean, by all accounts, I will give credit to the Lion Guard for successfully pointing out the benefits that hyenas pose towards the Circle of Life, even if they probably could've delved further into it. And as for the Outlanders, I can possibly understand why they would see Scar as the benevolent, generous leader as they appeared to believe in the second film.
Your interpretation of the second film fascinates me. Not only does the characterization of the "villains" in reverse intrigue me, as by giving them sympathetic qualities you really do hope they win but at the same time you don't want our "heroes" to get hurt either, though also I do really like the interpretation that those with seemingly bad motives aren't all bad and vice versa. Kiara particularly intrigues me, especially since she technically is a villain that later becomes reformed.
I took some time to speculate on the concept of the song "Upendi" being changed from a romantic song to a villainous song. Honestly now I'm tempted just to go back and rewrite the entire thing from scratch and remaster it as a villain song. I might actually do that.
Anways, you're welcome for the comment and I look forward to possibly seeing more of this int he future.
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iceflowerglow In reply to Vtoony [2018-07-24 15:28:26 +0000 UTC]
In canon, I can see Scar using the hyenas to paint himself as a just, merciful leader. It's clear that the hyenas were disadvantaged, and even though inviting them made the lionesses' situation worse, they couldn't really say Scar was being evil or had anything to gain from it, because he was 'helping the impoverished' or something like that. In my headcanon, he did the same with the Outsiders - invited them to the Pridelands when they were in a bad situation. His plan worked, since he gained more loyal subjects and could exert control over the 'original' Prideland lionesses more easily.
Yeah, I believe that it's important to show both villains and heroes as multi-dimensional characters, because in real life, hardly anyone is 100% good or evil. (It's one of the reasons why I like the second TLK movie more than the first, Scar was enjoyable, but his motives weren't anything but evil and selfish, while Zira and especially her children were very sympathetic).
If you do, please give me the link so that I could see it!
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renhob27 [2018-06-29 17:54:52 +0000 UTC]
Very awsome artwork! I like how they look! They are very lovely . Keep going with your awsome style! I like Kiara and Kovu... They are so cute together . Actually, I like all stories about TLK univers (the movies, the t.v show, fan fict and fan art. Sorry if my comments is long. It almost a novel.
My PS is long: Actually I start a series (I don't know how long the series will be) on one of my darker theorie in TLK universe (actually is a big crossover between TLK and a lots of others animations movies, novels or comics strips). My ? is because is in developpement... Don't mind errors, like you English is not my first language...
What happen if Mufasa is the bad guy? What happen if Scar is the good guy, but the apparance make him look like the bad guy? If Zira is in reality a mercyless spy at the Evil Mufasa? Who's the Lion than Scar kill? (Actually and ironically, the Lion is also name Mufasa, and he was the best friend of Mufasa and Scar). What happen if Mufasa have a akward attraction on is half-brother Taka (Scar) and try to violate his young brother? What happen if Scar father's heard about the sexual abuse of his son's (Ubumnyama, Darkness in Zulu, in referrence of his dark mane)? Ahadi vs Ubumnyama, which should win the fight? If Ubumnyama become king, what kind of king will be? A good, a tyrant? Mufasa is exile in the Outland, it where he meet and make friend with a extremist group of Hyenas! he's Ubumnyama is die on a mystarious and suspecious maner... Who's the killer? Mufasa accuse Taka (will be Scar soon). Taka provoke is brother in duel and Mufasa make him a "souvenir" of this day... A huge scar on his face. Ahadi, who still a life return on the throne, but... Mufasa want to be king at the place of the king. Mufasa plotting? What happen if Huwanga (OC, Rafiki Master) try to trap Mufasa and prove is traitery? Mufasa finish by challenge is father for the power, his beat by his own father. What Ahadi will do? Exile is own son? When he come back, what Mufasa will do? Ahadi and Uru are kill by Mufasa? When Mufasa take the power, and... he lose his fertility for ever, but he don't know. Scar become the Lion Guard when he was young, how his Ahadi see that coming? What happen if Sarabi never love is husband and was in fact in love with Scar? What happen if Sarabi and Sarafina are both in love with Scar? They becomme Rivals? Friends-Ennemies? BBF and share Scar as mate? Mufasa is jealous or not of Scar popularity? Mufasa learn that he is infertile? He push
In resume: Mufasa is bloodlust, powerlust, liar, love-hate is younger brother (Taka/Scar have six months younger of his brother), he like plotting and betray all people who's love him, he recrute a very huge spies network and use to divise and conquer the land. In is allies with a bunch of Drongos who spread chaos, Mufasa take the opportunity to build his reputation as a peacemaker and a wise king. Mufasa has a warm smile hiding his true personality. When he want to take wifes (and yes I mean a lots of mates), he organise a one on one fight until death, the winner of each match are name "Queens" by Mufasa. (That part is inspire by Kronos (Saturn in Roman), when Mufasa learn that is infertile, he force Scar and Sarabi to mate (Sarabi was his fav. queen because she hate him with all her heart). But, when the king Mufasa saw the first result and was unsatisfied by cubs apparance... He kill them (I don't not what how that happen but I have two possibility: Mufasa eat them (like Kronos) or throw on the heigher place of Pride rock (like the Spartian way). After ten time that Scar and Sarabi mate, Mufasa is satisfied by one of the cubs. He kill all the "errors" cubs and take the only cub he like. He name the cub Simba. Scar swear to kill him and create a wordl of real peace, liberty and Justice. Mufasa goes to the Council of all leaders of the world (more then one hundred chiefs, kings, alphas leader and others titles). Mufasa meet one of is bigger opponnent Alexios (Oc, Atlas Lion, born in a land Far away). Both hate each other since they first meet (how the walk! they're voice! all on them make them mad on each other's). When the second council that Mufasa participate, he try to assassinate all the leaders by poison, but is plan is totally ruin it by Alexios, who have create a antidote of the poison. When Simba grow up, Mufasa goes in crusade against Alexios and make his friend swicht place with him. Scar want to kill is older brother, but his friends of the Lion Guard refuse to help him. Blind by rage, Scar use the roar and kill accidently his friends. He regrets all his life the exceed of rage. Mufasa (the friend of Mufasa and Scar), his the Intendant King. He's kill by Scar who truly think that he was is own brother. (A rumor want that Mufasa want to eliminate his own son's). When he saw Simba on the corpse of Mufasa, he exile him. This move save the life of Simba.... Mufasa 9the older brother came back and this period is name the First Prideland Civilians War's. Scar have some allies Hyenas. But, like all Civilians War's, the land is wound by blood, and destruction. Mufasa was still alive when Simba return in the Prideland. He fight without know that Scar was is father. Scar is defeated, but he don't die on the Pride rock... He died when he kill Mufasa after a hard battle with his treaterous brother.
All Pridelanders remember of Scar as a evil guy and Mufasa was a good guy. Simba become a good leader. Zira when the civilian war's start, try to seduce Scar, but the Lion alway reject her love advance, he was not attract by Zira, but by Sarabi, Sarafina and his new passion Nala... Nala and Zira become sworn ennemies. Zira challenge Nala more then ten thousands time in duels (but Nala have always wins). Zira hate also Nala's friends. And she decided to kill them. She lie and say that she work under Scar's orders. Zira kill Tojo, Chumvi, Kula, Mheetu and Tama. Malka died one years before kill by a African Buffalo. Malka and Tama have one kid... Nuka. But, for Tama, her cub remind her too much her unfortinated husband,she give Zira her cub. Two month laters, Tama and Tojo become mates, Vitani is born. Kula and Chumvi become a couple like Tojo and Tama. Kovu and Rani born of this union. A bad feeling, Kula choose to hide Rani and give her to a friend lioness, who exile to the Shadow land. Zira adopt all cubs of the Scar is chass of Pride rock. Nala and Simba have Kopa as first cub. One month later, Kiara is borns and six month after Kiara birth, Kion is born. Zira kidnappe Kopa and pretend to kill him. Simba mad confront Zira. Zira say that Kovu should be the King... Nala in rage jump on Zira and chop a little piece of her enemy ears. Simba separate both brawling Lionesses. Simba exil Zira....
In my version of TLK, Kion have a lot of females characters who want to be his mate. He found a Pride (in the Prideland, possession give by Simba). He choose Jasiri as his first and true love. When a new shadow come and almost drive the Prideland in chaos. Zira take the opportunity to attack the Prideland. She divise her forces in two divisions. One to distract the Lion Guard (that why Kion and his friends was not in TKL2 final battle). When Zira attack Simba, Kiara jump on her ennemy. In my vision, Kiara and Zira have a hard battle. After three times, Kiara finish to throw Zira in stone thorns peaks, she dies. Kion meet another of his love, her name's is Leitha (OC, niece of Vitani with the same age of her aunt, she the adoptive daugther of Nuka and Dotty (or Dottie?) and both lionesses have huge rivalry). After, the battle of the Prideland, two weeks later to be more precis (that story is all ready finish), Vitani challenge Kiara to be queen of the Prideland, mate of Kovu and Kion. Kiara wins the confrontation... After, Kovu is challenge by a young Wolf, Wanji (from Tatonka Tale) to be Kiara mate's. Wanji and Kiara meet when they are younger and they fall in love, Wanji promise to challenge anyone who want to be her husband. (In my theory, Wanji win against Kovu, and Kiara and Wanji become a couple, but Wanji become BBF with Kovu, Kovu is Kiara mate in second. (Yes I know, technically they should be monogame like humans... but I like to think that Kiara and others characters have multiples mates or multiples lovers choices). Vitani plotting in the shadow to kill Kiara. Both rivals recute armies. That period was call the Second Prideland Civilian wars (in fact, my TLK worlds have multiples dimmensions (because in a other version Kiara and Vitani end up BBF). many years laters, Kion recieve a strange message. He find a new threat. He found the Evil Spirit of Mufasa reborn... Zira with him. That end up in the third (or second) Prideland Civilans wars!
What do you think of my idea?
Don't make me wrong, I like Mufasa as a good guy. But in Evil Guy, that is very interisting.
Have a nice and awsome summer!
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iceflowerglow In reply to renhob27 [2018-07-04 20:38:27 +0000 UTC]
Thank you
That's an interesting take on a dark AU. It's not really my type of story, so I can't tell much, but I definitely like the idea of a villain who is trusted because he looks like a good guy, and vice versa.
And, thanks! You too
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renhob27 In reply to iceflowerglow [2018-07-04 22:22:43 +0000 UTC]
Thank a lot. I call it darker version because some of my characters are totally psycho. But I will do a less darker at my version.
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Jinshu-arts [2018-06-27 11:14:13 +0000 UTC]
oh god i never thought of this idea!!
gr8 artwork btw
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Jinshu-arts In reply to iceflowerglow [2018-06-27 16:31:40 +0000 UTC]
Pleasure^^
I love gr8 art 😃
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HydraCarina [2018-06-27 09:21:42 +0000 UTC]
This is so amazing! Nuka looks so cute with flowers in his mane.
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iceflowerglow In reply to HydraCarina [2018-06-27 13:28:43 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I imagine that in this version, he would have different flowers in different scenes, especially the big one next to his ear xD And the petals would probably be coming off when he does fast movements xD
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otter-popps [2018-06-27 00:54:50 +0000 UTC]
Oh this is beautiful! Nuka and his flowers! XD
Do you have a link to that concept art? I don't think I've ever seen it before
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iceflowerglow In reply to otter-popps [2018-06-27 13:18:44 +0000 UTC]
Thanks!
Here's the link: disney.wikia.com/wiki/File:Out…
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iceflowerglow In reply to FablePaint [2018-06-26 19:59:01 +0000 UTC]
Thank you, although it's based on an official concept art
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FablePaint [2018-06-26 18:35:25 +0000 UTC]
I like it! I'm especially a fan of Nuka with flowers in his mane. He probably needed that in the normal canon too.
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iceflowerglow In reply to FablePaint [2018-06-26 19:56:35 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! Yeah, canon Nuka with flowers would have been pretty great
And thank you for the comment!
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Namirithecheepard [2018-06-26 17:27:24 +0000 UTC]
Ooooooh I like this version! Love the art!!!
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