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Line art Made byStarting bid is 200 points, highest bid wins, will end at the end of the day,
if i do not get high bidders ill just take him for myself cuz he is a sexy beast ._.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND ME POINTS UNTILL I SAY HE IS YOURS
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Herr-Eisenheim [2011-03-15 19:20:10 +0000 UTC]
LOOK AT THE DRAMA YOU STARTED
FOR SHAME HAZE >u
I think it's a sexy design u w u
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iHazelis In reply to Herr-Eisenheim [2011-03-15 19:29:40 +0000 UTC]
LOL!! thanks yew i think xDDD ima end up havein to just keep it for myself cuz ik no1s gunna get it now cuz of the drama :3
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iHazelis In reply to Azhark [2011-03-14 06:26:40 +0000 UTC]
wow u outa points? is god comein back to earth? LOL
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Azhark In reply to iHazelis [2011-03-14 06:45:22 +0000 UTC]
Is it that impossible >W>
LOLZ
;w; I am DEAD poor
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iHazelis In reply to Azhark [2011-03-14 08:05:39 +0000 UTC]
OMG YOUR DEAD so YOUR POOR KIDS FROM MEXICO HAVE TO PAY FOR YER FUNERAL BUT ARE SO POOR THEY HAVE TO SELL THERE CHICKENS BUT THE CHICKENS END UP GETTING SICK N DIEING SO THEY SELL THERE HOUSE BUT IT ONLY SELLS FOR A USA NICKEL SO THEY SELL THERE SOULS TO THE DEVIL BUT THEY END UP DIEING CUZ WITH OUT A SOUL HOW THE FCK R THEY ALIVE SO YOUR GRAND PA PA HAS TO PAY IT BUT ENDS UP DIEING OVER SHOCK FROM THE BILL!?!??!
OMG IM SO SORRY TO HEAR OF THIS Q0Q
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Azhark In reply to iHazelis [2011-03-15 23:05:07 +0000 UTC]
Pfft What are you talking about I dont have mexican kids ;A;
v-v They are so African >8I Dont insalt me YOH!!
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 03:32:43 +0000 UTC]
you do know most people use others linearts to sell adoptables right?
I can link you to multiple sets most of which someone used another persons linearts
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Sharkfu In reply to ClubsOfMeloncholy [2011-03-14 04:39:41 +0000 UTC]
All she did was ask a question, she did not attack anyone or be rude, so you should calm down. And stop uglying up this girl's comments by bolding/capslocking words.
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to Sharkfu [2011-03-14 04:41:45 +0000 UTC]
well hello there hon whats your name?
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Sharkfu In reply to ClubsOfMeloncholy [2011-03-14 04:45:10 +0000 UTC]
Fail minion has a giant Nigerian cock up her ass. You're a hypocrite, "you don't need to protect her she's a grown up trust me," but look at you here jumping the gun as Hazelis' White Knight, attacking Vosska on her behalf. Too cute.
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to Sharkfu [2011-03-14 04:47:04 +0000 UTC]
Actually I jumped in to troll cause I was bored
So yea I KNOW i'm being a hypocrite~
there's a diff between doing something and not thinking about it all through
and doing something cause you know it'll start shit~
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Sharkfu In reply to ClubsOfMeloncholy [2011-03-14 04:51:06 +0000 UTC]
Damn, you consider that trolling? If so... rookie... how sad. I don't think you were trying to troll, I think you were just sticking up for her, especially since you made a little journal about it in all capslock.
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to Sharkfu [2011-03-14 04:56:37 +0000 UTC]
I will take your critique into consideration and I'll become better at telling ma'am and or sir.
I guess I'll apologize to her tomorrow for being a douche cause I can be a good person.
I'm not 100% ass hole im jus 15% nosey~
Plus typing on an itouch is a pain in the ass.
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Sharkfu In reply to ClubsOfMeloncholy [2011-03-14 05:00:47 +0000 UTC]
And I will go masturbate.
Toodles.
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to Sharkfu [2011-03-14 05:14:22 +0000 UTC]
Have fun and make sure to clean up after yourself
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ourogoros In reply to ClubsOfMeloncholy [2011-03-14 03:34:55 +0000 UTC]
Derp, didn't ask you, no reason to jump in.
Either way, she specifically stated to ASK her, and judging by this person's response, no one asked her.
Just because someone else is okay with you selling their linearts doesn't mean EVERYONE is.
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 03:38:25 +0000 UTC]
its a dumb question.
And it takes mellow a long ass time to respond.
And since it s a FREE LINEART all she needs to do is cred mellow. Its not like mellow made a pic specifically for her, sent it to her and she posted it without asking.
FREE LINEART
Most people make FREE LINEARTS for this kinda thing or just if you're bored coloring them in.
No sense posting a dumb question.
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ourogoros In reply to ClubsOfMeloncholy [2011-03-14 03:42:01 +0000 UTC]
Once again, I'll restate it:
Free to USE
does not mean free to SELL. Simple, easy, and I know PLENTY of artists who will back this up. If it's really so stupid, ask and let Mello come here and tell me I'm wrong--- let me have the shit embarassed out of me because I made a mistake.
Which I doubt.
No sense blowing up like a fucking child either, but hey, you're still doing it.
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 03:46:14 +0000 UTC]
she's not selling
THE LINEART she's selling the design within the LINEART Now unless my friend traced a pic of mello's and was all like
I TRACED OVER DIS AND I LIKE AM GONNA CRED MELLO then it'd be wrong to do so.
Its not blowing up its just throwing out an oppinion to make an argument into another to start a conversation of opposing sides to eventually (if possible) to come to an agreement or till one side proves enough of a point to leave the other alone
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ourogoros In reply to ClubsOfMeloncholy [2011-03-14 03:53:55 +0000 UTC]
By the way the bold makes you seem like even more of a child for blowing up on me over a legitimate question.
Yes, you're correct there, but there ARE artists out there who follow the 'free to use but not to sell' mantra. Usually I wouldn't make a big deal out of it.
But this is Mello's own personal species, and she did NOT say it could be sold, so where is the harm in asking? How is that a stupid question? Oh yeah, it isn't.
I'm trying to protect an artist from getting into someone ELSE'S bad graces. It's an innocent mistake to make-- I'm not BLAMING anyone, I'm not ACCUSING anyone, I'm simply asking if there was permission to do it. Simple, simple, simple. Yet leave it to a complete jackass to leap into a conversation and immediately start spewing insults and "backing up" their logic with reasoning FULL of holes. What's the point of you possibly coming into a peaceful conversation and starting a useless argument?
None.
Absolutely none.
So, once again, I will state TO THE DESIGNER: If you don't have permission, it may be best to do so so you won't possibly have a problem later. The worst they can say is no; even then, just transfer the design to a lineart you KNOW you can use for selling, and do it that way.
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 04:00:07 +0000 UTC]
If mello has problems with this she can take it up with her own sister.
you don't need to protect her she's a grown up trust me.
Mello can protect herself, and more than one person has used this "species" lineart
If you aren't allowed to sell the design or use it in certain ways call it a limited or Limited Uses Under Permission
otherwise if she's gonna be angry about her "self made species"
Then she SHOULD NOT post a lineart of it.
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ourogoros In reply to ClubsOfMeloncholy [2011-03-14 04:14:34 +0000 UTC]
It doesn't matter to me how old she is-- I'm looking out for her simply because she's part of the dA community as well, and in my opinion, it's better safe than sorry.
See? "Used." Not "sold." Two completely different terms; quit using them like they're the same. I KNOW Mello can protect herself, for god's sakes I've kept up with her art for a little over a year now. I KNOW Mello can protect her art, but honestly, I'm not just going to leave all the work to HER if I can help her out even a little bit.
Wait, what? Just... what? What the fuck...
Okay, I have no clue WHO taught you that, but erase that thought from your head. Just because Mello posts a lineart for people to make their own--- just because ANYBODY does that-- automatically means that you have permission to sell it?
What kind of fucked logic is this? Honey, no. Just no. An artist can post whatever they want and tell people how THEY want it used, and it's intended to be used ONLY THAT WAY. That's like saying if DaVinci didn't want his paintings stolen, he shouldn't have painted them.
Simple resolution to this way the fuck out of hand problem: Ask. Just fucking ASK Mello and this can get resolved. Better yet, I'LL ask her. This was a simple misunderstanding that you've completely blown out of proportion-- and yes, while I'm completely guilty of feeding the fire, ignorance like this just kills me. I'm not furthering this anymore, Mello's yay or nay is all that counts.
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 04:22:28 +0000 UTC]
Mello is FREELY able to contact me and my friend here
if she has beef with us she can contact us or her or me or whichever.
Honestly she has all of her 11 year olds going out attacking people already don't make them any dumber bro :C
And once again
she isn't SELLING THE LINE ART she's selling a design
she's not selling a "species" of mellow which is just some dog with a mane she's selling a color scheme and idea for others to use.
And once again
ONCE AGAIN SHE NEVER SAID YOU CAN'T SELL A DESIGN WITHIN THE LINES OF THAT ART
hell why don't you go search up every person that has done the same thing with mellow's line art. of her "own species"
This argument will end when you realize that this argument was pointless in the first place like I did. CB
I just needed to practice typing i'm getting rusty.
LEAVE MELLOW TO YAY AND NAY about it you don't need to go and do this crap jaysus.
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Arkyls In reply to ClubsOfMeloncholy [2011-03-14 04:34:59 +0000 UTC]
Uuh, wow.
'Kay, I don't want to hear anyone bitchin' at me for commenting here.
So shut up before you even do it.
My suggestion? Why don't you remove it off the damn line art if there is no clear 'You can use this line art if you wish to sell a design', or 'No you cannot use this line art if you wish to sell a design'. Especially if you're too goddamn fricken lazy to go be respectful and contact the artist yourself.
And technically, suuure you aren't selling the lineart specifically, but you're selling a design on lineart. So when someone buys this design? It'll be on that lineart. You're friend just made profit off of. It's a package deal. In case you didn't understand that, it means that you're making money off both the design and the lineart.
And yknow, if you didn't want to cause such a shitstorm over a simple question, why don't you just draw the damn thing yourself?
k? k. jesus christ.
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ourogoros In reply to ClubsOfMeloncholy [2011-03-14 04:34:22 +0000 UTC]
Mello shouldn't have to have any beef with you because you're just jumping in like a meddlesome child.
She's selling the design on the lineart, which is a personal species of Mello's. SIMPLE~ If she's selling a design on that species, and someone adopts, they're going to draw THAT SPECIES. What, do you think if I posted a wolf adoptable, people are just gonna be like OH OKAY and automatically draw it as a horse? Once again your logic fails you.
But she ALSO did not say you COULD. So simple fucking solution? ASK
ASK
ASK
ASK. Three letter word that is incredibly fucking simple to fucking do.
They all COLORED IT. They did not SELL their designs. Period.
If you realize it's so pointless, why the fuck are you still typing? Every single one of your points has been made invalid, do yourself a favor and shut the fuck up while you still have your motherfucking dignity kid.
No, I've asked her. I do apparently need to, because YOU felt the need to start this shit, so now I'm finishing it. At least I'm going to have the humility to admit I'm wrong, if I am.
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 04:40:23 +0000 UTC]
All?
holyshit you're pretty fast looking up every single person thats used it :U
have you checked off of da?
around the world?
Oh and I'm not losing any dignity, calm down bro
Umad?
And I'm not saying she'll have any beef with me now but she might in the future.
And once again when shit gets real stupid they call the awesome squad.
Mello needs to stop makin "species" then.
Mello needs to not make linearts of her "species" then
if she doesn't want someone selling a design or just say in the comments for clarification so that everyone understands
DO NOT SELL THIS MOFOCKIN LINE ART CHAR BULLSHIT WITHOUT ME KNOWIN
And I know I'm wrong
Because this was me starting shit cause I felt the need to since the question seemed somewhere borderline of the normal idiotic eleven year old flamer
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ourogoros In reply to iHazelis [2011-03-14 03:33:13 +0000 UTC]
But she said 'ask before you do something'. Just because it's free to USE doesn't mean it's free to SELL. You're making profit off of someone else's work-- you should at least ask first before doing this.
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VixClockworkCheshire In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 04:11:53 +0000 UTC]
[link]
BOOM
You shouldn't be attacking the people over the internet about these adoptables, rather go to GO TO THE FRICKEN SOURCE OF THE LINE ART
Sorry for the caps and pointing this out, just please actually read everyones comments before saying that they can't sell it off at insane low point price (which in my perspective is invisible money)
Making an ACTUALLY profit would be paypal I ain't trolling, just really a twitchy artist who doesn't like these flames going on....unless i want marshmellows
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ourogoros In reply to VixClockworkCheshire [2011-03-14 04:21:00 +0000 UTC]
1. That's not Mello's lineart
2. That's not Mello's lineart
and 3. That's not Mello's fucking lineart. C:
Other people allow people to sell the designs they make on their linearts --- however, some do not. Mello did not state "yes you can sell these" or "no you can not" which is why I'm asking Mello right now.
Don't sit here and jump in, sweetie, especially if it's with completely irrelevant points. Allow me to pick it apart:
1. The source of the lineart does not state whether or not it's okay to sell. THIS DOES NOT MAKE IT OKAY TO SELL
2. Actual money goes into points. 80 points = 1 dollar. Yes, it's still profit.
3. I'm not the one who started flaming-- I asked a legitimate question, it turns into a full-blown out of fucking proportion argument on this poor girl's page. If ignorance could have been avoided, I gladly would have. However it's people like you and the other person I've been arguing with that make this kind of shit go on and on and on.
^^^^^ All this? True points. I can get plenty of people in here to back this up. Both of your points are invalid; using is not selling. Just because someone ELSE posted a lineart you can sell designs on, does not make EVERY LINEART AVAILABLE TO DO THE SAME. Thirdly? It's common fucking courtesy to ASK IF IT IS NOT EXPLICITLY STATED. Quit dodging the point and simply ask Mello yourself.
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VixClockworkCheshire In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 17:06:49 +0000 UTC]
First off, hint of advice, never(well not never) cuss during comments. I look down who cuss like this(though I've seen way worse) and it may help in some arguements. But arguing a point that you could started off by noting mello yourself with the question, it comely useless cussing and is a filler word.
Also 1. do not call me sweetie 2. Don't bunch me into a group of people. All I can see yes, the arguement is being dragged on like a dead horse and I want to pop the wheels. 3. It's my own personal view that money is wasted into points :/ It maybe profit, but does it buy food? or art supplies? or the rent? That's what i factor in as profit. Others may see that differently like "YAY I GET A SUBBIE!" or "Woot I can finally buy that sweater" which in life i find pointless.
Though as you said, it did get blown out of proportion more than it should of in reality..
-looks up- Oh dear...sorry for the long text ;^;
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ourogoros In reply to VixClockworkCheshire [2011-03-14 20:27:32 +0000 UTC]
You should read the whole conversation before replying, a day late at that hon. Not trying to be rude, but cussing is what I do when kids don't seem to get the point-- ignorance, y'know.
And yes, while a lot of money is sunk basically into useless points, it's still profit. Nothing can change that. DeviantArt makes money off of points. It's the fact that SOMEONE is making money off someone else's art, whenever they may not even want to.
I noted Mello yesterday, as mentioned.
I respect you, at least, for having a cool head about it and not fail-trolling, but all of these points were kinda.. settled already. I'm not starting another argument with anyone else about this, I already noted Mello, when she decides to reply the problem's solved.
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VixClockworkCheshire In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 22:14:53 +0000 UTC]
I have(though took me awhile since I am sick with steep throat) which I'm kinda twitching from how long that was dragged out.^^ Well No need to use cussing with me :3 I'm the type whose better to talk with/out all the cussing.
It's makes money both through points and Ads like all sites...which i twitch at microsoft points (which i get from playing video games)
D: Also I noticed Az's comment and i noticed the first comment : [link]
Eh, I'm not trolling, if i did, I would hate myself cause I would be making a idiot of myself. :< I see this more as a mini discussion, I don't like arguements as much as others.
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ourogoros In reply to VixClockworkCheshire [2011-03-14 22:32:38 +0000 UTC]
Well, I have a right to use whatever form of language I feel like, quite frankly. I could sit here and use fuck and shit every other word I type to you if I wanted to. "No need" to be an internet mom.
It doesn't matter whether you like them or not, they're there; it's another plot to make money. Money is what the world revolves on, and as unfortunate as it is... it is.
I didn't say you were trolling, I was using the other person as an example; which even then, they aren't trolling, because they were offended enough to make a journal and whine about it. Didn't even mention me by name, either.
Either way, like I said, there's no point in this; I've validated every single one of my reasonings, Mello's been contacted, so I'm gonna leave and let lie until she says something herself.
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Azhark In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 05:04:09 +0000 UTC]
[link]
8D
1.Thats mellow's lineart
2.Thats mellow's Lineart
3.THATS mellow's LINEART <33333
And if Ur still wanting to be an a** I can Spam u will a whole bunch more adoptablez made by other ppl USING MELLOW'S Lineart <33
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Azhark In reply to ourogoros [2011-03-14 04:58:17 +0000 UTC]
Ummz Are you like having a bad day or something?
@_@ Or do you just feel like being an A**
Pfft
I have seen LOTS of people using Mellows lineart for adoptables so chill out
@_@ You think your cool Oh look at me I am trying to stick up for mellow maybe then she will like me 8D
Pfft
Ur cool broski 8D <33 "Kisses and Hugs"
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ClubsOfMeloncholy In reply to iHazelis [2011-03-14 03:32:51 +0000 UTC]
THE QUESTION MADE ME LUL
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