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Ok so after the last post I have something to add.
I don't want to be one of those fans that just goes along with the members and not the fanbase because a lot of the time the fanbase make the youtubers. And it's the same with this.

IF it did happen as everyone had said I agree, everyone should have told Sjin to stop. Instead of just letting it slide and ignoring it. If it did happen then we should support the fans who have been effected. If it did happen then yes being angry at Lewis and Turps makes sense because they told victims to fuck off when the victims are just trying to draw light to it and warn people.
I know that it can be difficult for people to come forward and say that someone did something like this to them, I understand the girls positions here as well. And I don't want people to think I was just purely defending Sjin. Because f he did do those things then it is disgusting. And if he did do them I believe it would be better for him to come forward, admit to it, apologise (as far as that would get you...) To any and all victims, and never do it again. Because if it has been dragged his far then he's pulled all the people he works with into it, he's dragged Lewis and Turps in and caused them to be aggressive towards fans, and he is using them to hide behind which is putting them in a bad light, instead of just coming forward and admitting to it, and promising to never do it again unless the person is giving full permission.

In my last post I wasn't trying to discredit the girls that this may have happened to. I don't like change and to suddenly see one day that one of my favourite youtubers has had these accusations against him has upset me. But at the same time like I've said, if they are true then the girls effected need more support than people like me do. I'm just someone who can't stand change.

But as I said before, these could have been girls manipulating him as well... I'm not saying it was but it could have been. As far as I can see it's mostly on Twitter, Snapchat and messenger the 'messages' that he and the girls would send each other. They could have sent pictures first and Sjin might have responded with other pictures, same with messages. I'm really not trying to defend anyone in this, I just like to think of all possibilities.

I think it is important to note that no matter how much someone is pestering you for a picture or something, you say no. If they don't stop harassing you, drop all contact with them. End it all and don't contact them again. If they somehow manage to find another way to message you, go to the police.
In no circumstance, whether it's a youtuber or someone you look up to or not, do NOT send a picture back.
If they're starting to scare you then tell someone about it.
I've been on the receiving end of guys asking for pictures multiple times, sometimes they've been people I'm close to, people who are my friends. And in those situations - at about 12-13 years old when they first started - it's difficult to understand what to do.
I never actually sent a picture to any of them thank God, but once to get one of them to shut up I found a random picture on the internet and sent that. And at the time it didn't seem like a big deal but when I think back now it still means that that guy thought it was me. And that he could have been... Doing stuff with that picture, pretending it was me. And that just... I don't like that.
Never send pictures. Even if the guy or woman is in a position of power. Or someone you look up to.

Ok this might come out wrong, but if Sjin had been asking these girls, they should have stopped, thought about it, and declined. By sending the pictures or flirty texts back, you're not sending the message that it's not OK. And yes I know that's something he should know already.

In the end it depends what the verdict is... If Sjin is guilty he should personally apologise to all those he's wronged and Lewis and Turps and whoever else should also apologise for knowing about this stuff that was going on and not saying anything to Sjin or trying to get him to stop.
If it isn't true then like I said before, the girls have pretty much won because they got what they wanted.
I go onto Twitter and see everyone who just a few days ago were the biggest fans of the yogscast, saying that they're not gonna watch ANY of their videos anymore. This whole situation is... Extremely serious and a really fragile topic.

If it's true then support the victims yes. Help them through what they've gone through and be there for them. But don't stop watching the 'lesser' yogs as they're known as. Because they might not have even known what was going on. And wait for Sjin to say his apology. It will be up to everyone else who decides to accept. I probably would... I know that'll get me a lot of hate, but I would probably accept the apology and then if the situation arises again I would stop watching.
If it isn't true, then the yogs would have already lost so many subscribers just due to the aligations. So did other youtubers when they were accused of the same thing. If it isn't true then don't go and continue to hate the yogscast because of it.

I must admit with the words told by Minty and other people who were or are close to Sjin and the others it's looking more and more like Sjin is guilty. But he hasn't been proven to be yet. So just give it time and see what happens...

Hopefully this whole thing will blow over...

Sorry to anyone who may be upset or annoyed with me for these posts...
And I am sorry to the victims if it does turn out to be true...
If it doesn't, I'm sorry to Sjin.

But if for some reason Sjin ends up reading this;

Sjin. If you are guilty, admit to it. If you have already been found out as being guilty, then apologise to the girls (or boys) you've wronged. And don't start doing it again. Because you're effecting all of your friends with this as well. Enough is enough and it's time to stop.
I know an apology might not be enough, but it's a step.
Quite a few fans might feel the same way as me, and be willing to forgive you and continue to watch your videos, but you need to take responsibility instead of letting your friends speak for you, and apologise to those people effected by it.;

That's only if he is guilty.
If.
Again, while everything seems to point to him being guilty... We just don't know for definite.

Sorry to everyone who now hates me. I might have ruined my deviantART community and the Foxling community for my YouTube and everything else in general...
I hope not but...
Like I said before I just want to see the best in people...

-Exza

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Ok so after the last post I have something to add.
I don't want to be one of those fans that just goes along with the members and not the fanbase because a lot of the time the fanbase make the youtubers. And it's the same with this.

IF it did happen as everyone had said I agree, everyone should have told Sjin to stop. Instead of just letting it slide and ignoring it. If it did happen then we should support the fans who have been effected. If it did happen then yes being angry at Lewis and Turps makes sense because they told victims to fuck off when the victims are just trying to draw light to it and warn people.
I know that it can be difficult for people to come forward and say that someone did something like this to them, I understand the girls positions here as well. And I don't want people to think I was just purely defending Sjin. Because f he did do those things then it is disgusting. And if he did do them I believe it would be better for him to come forward, admit to it, apologise (as far as that would get you...) To any and all victims, and never do it again. Because if it has been dragged his far then he's pulled all the people he works with into it, he's dragged Lewis and Turps in and caused them to be aggressive towards fans, and he is using them to hide behind which is putting them in a bad light, instead of just coming forward and admitting to it, and promising to never do it again unless the person is giving full permission.

In my last post I wasn't trying to discredit the girls that this may have happened to. I don't like change and to suddenly see one day that one of my favourite youtubers has had these accusations against him has upset me. But at the same time like I've said, if they are true then the girls effected need more support than people like me do. I'm just someone who can't stand change.

But as I said before, these could have been girls manipulating him as well... I'm not saying it was but it could have been. As far as I can see it's mostly on Twitter, Snapchat and messenger the 'messages' that he and the girls would send each other. They could have sent pictures first and Sjin might have responded with other pictures, same with messages. I'm really not trying to defend anyone in this, I just like to think of all possibilities.

I think it is important to note that no matter how much someone is pestering you for a picture or something, you say no. If they don't stop harassing you, drop all contact with them. End it all and don't contact them again. If they somehow manage to find another way to message you, go to the police.
In no circumstance, whether it's a youtuber or someone you look up to or not, do NOT send a picture back.
If they're starting to scare you then tell someone about it.
I've been on the receiving end of guys asking for pictures multiple times, sometimes they've been people I'm close to, people who are my friends. And in those situations - at about 12-13 years old when they first started - it's difficult to understand what to do.
I never actually sent a picture to any of them thank God, but once to get one of them to shut up I found a random picture on the internet and sent that. And at the time it didn't seem like a big deal but when I think back now it still means that that guy thought it was me. And that he could have been... Doing stuff with that picture, pretending it was me. And that just... I don't like that.
Never send pictures. Even if the guy or woman is in a position of power. Or someone you look up to.

Ok this might come out wrong, but if Sjin had been asking these girls, they should have stopped, thought about it, and declined. By sending the pictures or flirty texts back, you're not sending the message that it's not OK. And yes I know that's something he should know already.

In the end it depends what the verdict is... If Sjin is guilty he should personally apologise to all those he's wronged and Lewis and Turps and whoever else should also apologise for knowing about this stuff that was going on and not saying anything to Sjin or trying to get him to stop.
If it isn't true then like I said before, the girls have pretty much won because they got what they wanted.
I go onto Twitter and see everyone who just a few days ago were the biggest fans of the yogscast, saying that they're not gonna watch ANY of their videos anymore. This whole situation is... Extremely serious and a really fragile topic.

If it's true then support the victims yes. Help them through what they've gone through and be there for them. But don't stop watching the 'lesser' yogs as they're known as. Because they might not have even known what was going on. And wait for Sjin to say his apology. It will be up to everyone else who decides to accept. I probably would... I know that'll get me a lot of hate, but I would probably accept the apology and then if the situation arises again I would stop watching.
If it isn't true, then the yogs would have already lost so many subscribers just due to the aligations. So did other youtubers when they were accused of the same thing. If it isn't true then don't go and continue to hate the yogscast because of it.

I must admit with the words told by Minty and other people who were or are close to Sjin and the others it's looking more and more like Sjin is guilty. But he hasn't been proven to be yet. So just give it time and see what happens...

Hopefully this whole thing will blow over...

Sorry to anyone who may be upset or annoyed with me for these posts...
And I am sorry to the victims if it does turn out to be true...
If it doesn't, I'm sorry to Sjin.

But if for some reason Sjin ends up reading this;

Sjin. If you are guilty, admit to it. If you have already been found out as being guilty, then apologise to the girls (or boys) you've wronged. And don't start doing it again. Because you're effecting all of your friends with this as well. Enough is enough and it's time to stop.
I know an apology might not be enough, but it's a step.
Quite a few fans might feel the same way as me, and be willing to forgive you and continue to watch your videos, but you need to take responsibility instead of letting your friends speak for you, and apologise to those people effected by it.;

That's only if he is guilty.
If.
Again, while everything seems to point to him being guilty... We just don't know for definite.

Sorry to everyone who now hates me. I might have ruined my deviantART community and the Foxling community for my YouTube and everything else in general...
I hope not but...
Like I said before I just want to see the best in people...

-Exza