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InsomEnigma In reply to tammleandbass [2017-08-19 21:11:54 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! 

I mean I guess it's original-ish.  I created Hak'ri and the rest of his Ancient counterparts when I was pretty little, and I'd just gotten into Warcraft, so if you're familiar with that universe, you can see the parallels with the dragon Aspects pretty quickly, at least from inspiration's standpoint.  

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tammleandbass In reply to InsomEnigma [2017-08-21 22:13:29 +0000 UTC]

Well like I said, it's original in terms of other Jak fan stuff. Of course dragons aren't the most original thing on Earth. But what I mean is I haven't seen any other metal head characters that have an affinity for a specific eco, and that idea intrigues me.

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InsomEnigma In reply to tammleandbass [2017-08-22 02:40:28 +0000 UTC]

Aaah, I gotcha.  Yeah, in my headcanon, these blue gemmed guys are essentially what the species was -before- the touch of dark eco and the Dark Maker's corruptive influence. 

It's a whole huge long thing, but it's your typical "One guy falls from grace and screws it up royally for everybody else." story, that guy in this case being Kor, who was the son of the Green Ancient, Hetmoseph.  Kor ends up getting Ancient level powers through consuming his mother's corpse and then starts using her powers over life to birth his own army of Hora'quan (Metal Heads), and insert a huge big war between the Ancients + Mar and his people vs the Metal Heads and Dark Maker reinforcement, the whole conflict lost to the ages because of just how long ago it took place. 

Fun fact, in this canon, Onin is actually one of the Ancients.     Nyssht, Ancient of Blue Eco and guardian over energy and memory, she's basically lived as an old crone of various forms through the centuries to observe the people she once shared a kinship with before Kor ruined everything. Comes to play a pivotal role in the character progression and fate of my character Lyani, as does Hak'ri.  

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tammleandbass In reply to InsomEnigma [2017-08-22 03:01:33 +0000 UTC]

I like the idea that metal heads aren't all bad. In my head canon though, it's just the ancient war between the Ottsels and Hora Quan that is the cause for the metal heads' apparent evilness. The groups are just kind of racist against each other. I must say that bit about Onin is pretty much a stroke of genius. Truly, good ideas.

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InsomEnigma In reply to tammleandbass [2017-08-22 03:27:29 +0000 UTC]

Aw, thanks!  I need to re-draw Hak'ri with his updated design and get the other three Ancients done...  If you're interested, I can share the giant lore dump on the Hora'quan I have written up for my own reference.  I mean, there's spoilers in it for my story, but at this rate I'm not actually going to -write- it in its entirety because I just don't have the time, so I can just answer whatever questions the spoilers might dredge up. 

Ottsels and Metal Heads do always seem to be at odds. I kinda flew with the idea that the Ottsels (Precursors) were straight up a space faring race who's planet has long since been lost to their own defunct technology (the Dark Makers), and they've just been frantically wandering the cosmos as exiles in what was once their own dominion while their creations run amok and try to destroy everything they've made. 

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tammleandbass In reply to InsomEnigma [2017-08-22 20:46:04 +0000 UTC]

Hey, a lore dump would be sick! I'm actually very interested in hearing other people's ideas, getting into other people's heads. I've got all kinds of stuff in my favorites. Most recently I discovered somebody who made a kind of harem anime group of schoolgirl characters who each correspond to a type of eco, and each like a different male character from the original series.

And I like that idea about the precursors having been great once. It's pretty similar to my idea, actually. I've got it that Playstation All-Stars and Playstation Move Heroes happen because of an intercconnected multiverse of video game worlds. The villain characters that bring the franchises together in those games are masters over their respective universes. In Jak's world, an even more ancient hybrid race than the Precursors called the Owlephants (the figures depicted on Precursor statues where the long nose is a trunk and the big eyes represent those of an owl) are masters over the eco universes, and they taught the Precursors and the Hora-Quan to tap into limitless supplies of eco.

The Hora-Quan and Precursors started a war because their projects overlapped at a border zone in the galaxy somewhere, and it was more of a war of ideals than a good versus evil type of a thing. I'm always trying to revise it though, so that might change. Anyway, lay your plot on me.

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InsomEnigma In reply to tammleandbass [2017-08-22 21:21:15 +0000 UTC]

Oooooogggghh, that's -super- neat that you made a race up out of the statues. I also dig that you kept with NaughtyDog's theme of making up a name that's two existing creatures meshed into one, that's a good eye for detail.  

Anyway, here ya go.  
Hora'quan LoreAll Eco has an underlying property that few understand beyond their base uses, but the Ancients have been masters of it for 
millennia. 
(Nyssht) Blue Eco is used for speed and power, it's basically electricity, but underlying from that, it is also the agent of preservation. Memory.  
(Hak'ri) Red Eco is used for strength and endurance, best used for defensive combat and shields, like Haven's shield-wall. It's underlying property is Gravity.
(Anuljhe) Yellow Eco is used for war. It is always associated with weaponry and easiest to use when devoted to offensive applications. It's underlying property is Genius. 
(The Hora'quan's greatest achievements were forged by Anuljhe, and eco users proficient with Yellow always seem to sport a
preternatural high intelligence.)  
(Hetmoseph) Green Eco is a force of creation and healing. It can bring people back from the greatest of torments, even -death- in the most extreme cases. It's underlying property is Time. 
(Pre

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