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Published: 2015-02-03 19:38:00 +0000 UTC; Views: 3338; Favourites: 56; Downloads: 0
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EDIT: As I uploaded this to Twitter, some got upset that I wrote "GamerGaters" as that word was apparently used by the opposition to "separate" gamers and so on. I didn't know that when I wrote and uploaded it, so I changes it to "GamerGate". I'm glad people pointed it out early.Media, modern-feminists, Anita Sarkeesian, Brianna Wu and Zoe Quinn keeps saying how horrible and awful GamerGate is, accusing the whole community for sending death- and rape threats to them and doxxing them and also stating that we are totally okay with it.
We aren't.
As I recently joined GamerGate, being a female and a gamer, I actually grew more annoyed by these accusations and articles. It makes you, as a woman in GamerGate, feel ignored. And as an artist, the best way to speak against all this, is through drawings. So, I decided to draw this little ''poster''. I did experiment with her hair and it feels even more alive and realistic with the new way I decided to shadow it
I am actually really proud of how this turned out!I might upload a gif soon of this, from sketch to the final version. But right now, I'm making another drawing that I will upload as fast as I can!
Vivan James © The Fine Young Capitalists
Art © Interela1000
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Don't hate it. You just made my point and didn't realize what you were doing.
And it is a point since quite early. If you're not willing to provide evidence, I have no reason to believe any of what you have said.
"My friends were harassed buu huu". I don't believe you. I think you're lying and working on hearsay at most. I think you're allowing something that is clearly not harassment be called harassment because it's convenient for some point you want to make, but don't want to show evidence because It would clearly make you look bad.
In the "best case", harassment happened, and you actually don't have good evidence of it being linked to gamergate. You simply can't. yet, you will show yourself pretty eager to perform weak man fallacies.
It's simply as this, since you're not a person I'm willing to take seriously (and I already told you WHY several times. I asked a pretty simple question and instead of declining to answer you just decided to double down) I'm not going to put any effort anymore. Believe whatever you want. You don't get PROOF till you post EVIDENCE.
The only reason I have to listen to anything of what you said IS because of listen and believe, the fact that you can drop it so fast as If you had a "gotcha!" on me makes pretty clear you have nothing. And you're too coward to question your friends that have not provided you with anything at all. Too much scared of the retaliation that YOU KNOW they will enact on you if you break lines.
I even said something that this other girl didn't like and she RAN TO SMEAR ME IN MY FRONT PAGE. What do you think they'll do to a "betrayer" hm?
It's fine by me that you tell me you don't believe me. Because that means you have no other option than to accept is pretty much okay to treat you like a liar.
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What questions were they? Feel free to post them again.
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We do dismiss them as the feminists dismiss radfem and femenazis.
But to her, we are all the same, awful people.
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So then, what did feminists do right with their media image in pushing radfems away? Why doesn't gamergate do that with their far-right members?
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Because people like you and those who harasses and calls themselves gamer Gaters have given GG a bad name, so everyone ignores when we speak the truth that we DO NOT support harassment and threats in any way!
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Do you know about the origins of the movement? It started off bad, and from a marketing POV you can't retract that and, without absolute diligence in outing horrible people and keeping it decentralised - the image remains.
Gamergaters have attempted to dox me and my details were passed around various members in the group (it was an old address but even so; they tried to get me).
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GamerGate started because of biased in the gaming media. People were tries to being lied to. And even the people who was with gamer gate as it started all acknowledge that it was stupid to make fun of Zoe. Barley any gamer hate talks about her anymore.
So you are innocent then? Your group has doxxed several females who support gamer gate. One online artists got doxxed so bad by your side that she had to quit her job that she loved to do.
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Im guessing they mean the radfems and sjws that are in the anti-gamergate group. that's a hell of a generalization. I used to be a very tame anti before becoming neutral and then a pro gamergater.
tbh you do you boo. Just don't hang with the wrong people, and don't doxx or encourage dogpiling in whatever group you're in.
Although if I were you, I'd stay neutral for a while. Though there are tutorials on how to prevent being doxxed. Try looking them up.
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Gamergate started because there were women and you needed to make sure someone said they were sluts and sent them death threats.
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Que
gamergate started when a woman slept her way to the top of journaling website and got called out on it, then when someone made a Kickstarter fraud.
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Let me get this straight.
You want to simultaneously take credit on behalf of your movement for not sending rape threats AND you still don't want to call out rape threats when they happen AND you think I'm antagonizing you by letting you know that your people posted my address and phone number on DA and threatened to kill and rape me.
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Stop overreacting.
No, I did not say that.
I said that you shouldn't blame an entire movement and its people because of what some no-life jackasses did to you. Trust me, a lot of Gamergaters despise doxxing. Again, blaming thousands and thousands of people for what a minority did to you is wrong.
I do not deny that people from the movement have been sending you threats. You should do everything you can to make sure these people get punished. So go and report these threats to the police. But do NOT blame everyone in the movement for this. Because I know that the majority of us does no approve of this. No one, even if well not agree with each other's, shall get death and rape threats. No one on the opposition should get doxxed or swatted.
So stop accusing all of us. Ones action does not equal that everyone agrees with it. We mighty be Gamergaters, but we despise action like what happened to you.
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So now you think I'm overreacting simply by stating that your people sent me threats?
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No.
You're overreacting by thinking that we all support this and you keep referring them as "your people". And you also don't seem to acknowledge that the exact same people are on your side as well. Some even doxxed and harassed an artists so bad she had to quit doing what she loved. That's fucked up.
They aren't "our people", they are loser and assholes who just wants to see suffering. They have nothing to do with us. And we don't want anything to do with them.
We cannot take responsibility for what they've done. The only thing we can do is to not acknowledge them as "our people", because they really aren't.
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Your deviation clearly states that all of Gamergate opposes death threats and rape threats. You pretend that you're all on the same page. And then when it turns out that you're wrong about that, you attack the person who pointed it out instead of the many people who threatened her.
Pathetic and irresponsible.
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Oh god, you're a miserable person. If you feel better by judging all of us, then do so. I'm tired of you and you just won't listen until someone say you're right.
Go away and have a good day. I'm tired of responding to your ignorant and childish behaviour towards me and the rest of us who had NOTHING to do with what happened to you. Bye.
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I'm not judging all of you.
I'm saying that many of you threatened to rape me and rather than speak up against that, you speak out against me.
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We didn't speak up against it, because I get most of us didn't even knew it happened, because we see them as ASSHOLES and not Gamer Gaters.
Did you know: that there are a group of people who are GG supporters that actually doxxed information about some people who kept harassing and threatening people on your side and sent it to the police. But of course you wouldn't know that, because you only listen to biased opinion from people on your side.
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And you're still attacking me just because your people doxxed me and I spoke up about it. Pathetic.
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You say "our folks" and you're basically talking about what happened to you as if I and the others approved of it or don't care about it.
And I will say this for the last time: They are NOT our folks! They don't represent us or the movement.
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That's fine to claim - until you fail to lift a finger to stop them and you try to take credit for not sending me rape threats and death threats.
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And not taking credit for it.
I made this artwork because I was tired of these idiots in Gamer Gate who kept harassing the opposition and make the rest of us look bad. I made this artwork for those who doesn't support that behaviour and to show all of you that there is a lot of Gamer Gaters that would protect you. But you're being so rude and awful to us, to people you don't even know and to those who probably support you.
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That's not what the artwork says.
It doesn't discourage doxxing, it just asserts that you don't do it.
Which is a lie.
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Fault to lift a finger? I don't even know who these fuckers are! And do you really think they'd listen to me?! No! They wouldn't! So stop blaming is for your problems!
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Dude, just block her. She's an obvious troll.
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I'm not blaming you. I'm saying that you can't both allow your allies to send death threats and take credit for having no allies that send death threats.
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Why the thing over the singular vs. the plural? I don't get it. The singular, to me, would suggest a collective. I see GamerGate as diverse, so in some cases the plural is the better choice. Just my opinion. In the sense of "we are all in this together" yeah, singular.
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When I look back at the time I uploaded this to twitter, I realized how stupid this argument was
I don't know why, but this person was pretty offended when I wrote ''GamerGaters''. Apparently the SJW used to ''downgrade'' us or something, at least according to him. There are some weird, annoying and bad people in GamerGate too. And for some reason, I constantly run into them.
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I consider myself a GG'r, but I mostly watch from the sidelines. I believe in the ethics and the politics. Gaming is just having fun. It's not about what color your skin is or what you have between your legs. And I believe in biology and human nature. So what, guys--and a fair number of women--like boobies lol.
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Yeah, who doesn't like boobies!!!
With all seriousness, getting upset about how women or men are portrayed in fictional mediums is kinda silly. Games is one of the mediums that people use to escape from reality. And how fun is a game when too much of it is similar to real life?
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Who's the red haired chick supposed to be?
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It's an inside joke from 4chan about rape personified as a "girl" character created to legitimize a movement to attack women in the gaming industry. In short, long story.
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Goddamn, GamerGate isn't about attacking woman. Do any of you damn Anti-GG'ers do more than 10 seconds of research before jumping on a bandwagon?
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I did plenty of research when Gamergate people posted my home address on DA on two separate occasions and sent me rape and death threats by email and phone.
Because your group has made my life a living hell and because they though it would be especially "fun" to threaten to come rape me because I'm a rape victim, I was forced to learn about you and the many, many other women you've threatened and doxxed.
I really wish it's something I was able to spend 10 seconds or lesson, but your friends decided to insert themselves into my life.
I'm not an"anti-gger." I'm a human being that gamergate guys decided to threaten over and over and over.
So keep your ignorant cursing, male anger and attacks to yourself.
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^^^ A story that actually didn't happen
At most you received a threat and decided to accuse some demographic because it was convenient.
You're a human being, by virtue that makes you fallible as everyone else. You're not special, you don't get to validate weak man fallacies as some sort of ultimate judge with your personal, anecdotical evidence that we are not seeing.
You're lying, and the reason you can do it is because it's not libel to say bad things about indeterminate groups of people.
I really hope you have a very good life, and you don't have any more problems like this in the future, but accusing people that you're ideologically opposed to, of crimes you don't have ANY PROOF they committed is sick. I really seriously hope you never are accused of something you didn't do.
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thank you!
We all know you weren't really raped or threatened, you CUNT.
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I've seem to have sent you quite an embarrasing and unconfortable private message, but you actually were "cheering" on me while calling her a cunt.
I don't agree with you, even if you seem to think she is wrong just as much as I, I frankly don't think calling her a cunt, or discussing the actual veracity of her experiences is the problem here.
She shouldn't be conflating crimes, werther they're real or not with ideological opponents if she doesn't have evidence. That's the only thing I wanted to say. Since you misinterpreted me to the point I could only understand your message as an insult, and since she too decided it was nice to call me a rape denier on my public page, I think obviously I have not expressed myself correctly.
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Uh. Well, you did call her a liar.
And I agree.
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I don't support those GG'ers that send rape threats, death threats, and doxx people. If anything, I'm against them more than the ignorant anti-GG'ers, and I wish people would stop associating them with us. I don't wanna insert myself into your life. Also, 'male anger'. lol
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Really? You have like 7 favorite deviations related to gamergate that focus on attacking a particular person. All of them are women. All of those women have received death and rape threats from Gamergate people just like I have. You don't use your words to suggest perhaps people should stop terrorizing these people. Instead, you make posts claiming that these victims of threats are "sluts"
That's disgusting.
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It's all hearsay, at least until someone follows through. Then again, this is a bunch of online nerds and SJW posers, so I wouldn't be too afraid right now. All talk, no Smith and Wesson.
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So you're saying you think people should ignore if because Gamergate hasn't literally murdered anyone yet?
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Yeah pretty much, compared to ISIS on the warpath and the college loan bubble swelling like the Blob, it is a tempest in a teapot.
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I hear that, but these people are sending me death threat and rape threats and are passing around my cell phone number.
'Hard to ignore.
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The Internet provides a megaphone for mice to roar. Tell 'em all to kiss your ass and keep on going.
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I tried to be nice to her as well and I told her the same thing.
She kept jumping on me...
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